There it is: American media’s coverage of Gaza is ‘racist’… against Hamas

posted at 8:41 am on August 5, 2014 by Noah Rothman

This kind of puerile tantrum is so sad it’s almost not worth posting. This point of view is, however, valuable as it reveals that many aspire not to nudge the press toward neutrality and objectivity, but to muscle and intimidate the media into mirroring a preferred point of view.

On Monday, an NBC News/Wall Street Journal/Marist poll showed that there is a vast chasm separating the number of Americans’ who support Israel versus the meager sliver of the public who backs Hamas in the current conflict in Gaza. The media’s coverage of the war in Gaza has in no way reflected American public sentiment.

It is clear that Hamas’s only strategy against Israel — maximizing the number of civilian casualties in order to generate sympathy for their cause in the Western press — has been and continues to be successful. While even the Arab world has given up on negotiating with their irrational interlocutors in Gaza, only members of the press in the West continue to demand Israel give up on the prosecution of this war and negotiate an unfavorable peace. Recent weeks have left regular news media viewers with the unmistakable impression that Israel is winning the war everywhere but on the media front.

Enter another universe now where the American press is an ethnocentric jingoist monolith plagued by racism against Muslims. That, at least, is journalist Glenn Greenwald’s take.

In an interview with Huffington Post Lives’ Marc Lamont Hill, who just yesterday called Israel’s inability to entirely prevent civilian casualties when that is the enemy objective suggestive that this is “an unjust war,” Greenwald said that the American press deserves an “F” for their coverage of the conflict.

“There’s no question that the way that the American media covers this conflict is based on the principle that Israeli lives are just inherently more valuable than Palestinian lives,” Greenwald slandered.

“It takes probably 50 Palestinians being killed to get anywhere near the attention of, say, an elderly Israeli woman being frightened in her home and having some kind of a medical problem because of the trauma,” he continued.

“I think there’s a racist element to it. I think there’s an ethnocentric element to it,” the independent journalist and Edward Snowden confidant said of the American media’s coverage of the war. “There’s definitely an anti-Muslim strain that runs throughout how this coverage is conducted.”



By citing the body count disparity and demanding that the world react to Palestinian deaths as America did to “9/11,” Greenwald asks his audience to abandon reason and logic and surrender to emotion. That may explain the cloying and mawkish nature of his plea – demonstrate emotion in order to elicit emotion. Greenwald offers the public a lotus and bids them sleep – this may be satisfying, and it sure as hell is easier, but it would not be intellectually honest.

Greenwald knows this. He knows that his appeal will be met with deserved skepticism. That’s why he preemptively calls those whom he is scolding “racist” rather than seek to understand any of the real factors which create the conditions that prevail in America’s newsrooms and color the coverage of the Gaza war.

His must be paralyzing and confusing existence. When all of your opponents are malicious and hard hearted, you excuse yourself of having to expend any real energy seeking to understand their motives. That is a petulant and juvenile way of looking at the world, one which most of us grew out of long ago.


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Hamas is not a race.

fortcoins on August 5, 2014 at 8:44 AM

Yeah, because Israel is “nativist.”

vlad martel on August 5, 2014 at 8:44 AM

“There’s no question that the way that the American media covers this conflict is based on the principle that Israeli lives are just inherently more valuable than Palestinian lives,” Greenwald slandered.

According to Hamas when exchanging prisoners, 1 Israeli = 1,000 Palestinians.

Resist We Much on August 5, 2014 at 8:46 AM

When all of your opponents are malicious and hard hearted, you excuse yourself of having to expend any real energy seeking to understand their motives.

Oh, you mean like those evil Russkies?

That is a petulant and juvenile way of looking at the world, one which most of us grew out of long ago.

Really?

vlad martel on August 5, 2014 at 8:47 AM

His must be paralyzing and confusing existence.

I’d have gone with “miserable,” but whatever.

Fallon on August 5, 2014 at 8:49 AM

Enter another universe now where the American press is an ethnocentric jingoist monolith plagued by racism against Muslims.

Muslim is not a race.

Happy Nomad on August 5, 2014 at 8:49 AM

Notice me, notice me, notice me…

rhombus on August 5, 2014 at 8:50 AM

BTW – The word “racist” jumped the shark a while ago. It is now used interchangeably with other words which do not mean that one believes “a certain human race is superior to any or all others.”

Fallon on August 5, 2014 at 8:52 AM

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Throat Wobbler Mangrove on August 5, 2014 at 8:54 AM

Idiot

Your 15 minutes are up

cmsinaz on August 5, 2014 at 8:55 AM

Just in case you needed another reason to dislike Google:

BBC Live

Meanwhile, several video games relating to the Israel-Gaza conflict have been removed from Google’s Android store and Facebook following criticism. Bomb Gaza – in which players control an Israeli military jet that attacks missile-firing Palestinian militants – is no longer available on the sites. But Rocket Pride – which sees players attempt to outmanoeuvre Israel’s Iron Dome missile defence system – is still available on Google Play.

kcewa on August 5, 2014 at 8:58 AM

Glenn,You’re American and white.There are many of those that would remove your head with a couple of chops if you could get it out of your azz.

docflash on August 5, 2014 at 8:59 AM

“There’s no question that the way that the American media covers this conflict is based on the principle that Israeli lives are just inherently more valuable than Palestinian lives,” Greenwald slandered.

American media is not doing so. Nevertheless, Israeli lives are far more valuable than Palestinian lives. Israelis generally like Americans; Palestinians don’t.

BuckeyeSam on August 5, 2014 at 9:02 AM

Fool, and Hamas tool.

bobthm3 on August 5, 2014 at 9:02 AM

Pretty stupid for an openly gay guy to side with the people who might kill him for being who he is. Leftism ruins everything it touches.

juliesa on August 5, 2014 at 9:04 AM

By citing the body count disparity and demanding that the world react to Palestinian deaths as America did to “9/11,”

So, would Greenwald be happy if there were more Israeli casualties?

You know, if World War II were fought today, I don’t think we could win it with today’s media and so-called “ruling class.”

TarheelBen on August 5, 2014 at 9:08 AM

Glenn Greenwald is an anti-Semite, he needs to be fitted for his swastika armband.

journalist Glenn Greenwald’s

By the Way, Noah, Greenwald is a propagandist, not a journalist. Please stop calling him a journalist, it only diminishes your own credibility.

rbj on August 5, 2014 at 9:08 AM

Hamas is pure evil.

albill on August 5, 2014 at 9:08 AM

Racist? The Pals and many jews (especially the Sephardic jews) are racially indistiguishable. They are all Semites.

iurockhead on August 5, 2014 at 9:10 AM

Has that term jumped the shark now? Muslims hilariously try to use it now also.

dogsoldier on August 5, 2014 at 9:13 AM

islam also is not a race. It is a satanic death cult, the worship of the devil.

ConstantineXI on August 5, 2014 at 9:14 AM

Racist? The Pals and many jews (especially the Sephardic jews) are racially indistiguishable. They are all Semites.

iurockhead on August 5, 2014 at 9:10 AM

The Arabs are also Semitic.

ConstantineXI on August 5, 2014 at 9:15 AM

Greenwald’s been of the mindset for years that Western governments are at the root of all the world’s evil, to the point he really doesn’t care if Barack Obama or the American big media are partially sympathetic to his view. Unless they’re 100 percent all-in, he regards them as part of the problem.

The problem at the other end is while the media outlets would brush off similar attacks from the right, they’ll take Greenwald’s criticism seriously and wonder what they can do in his eyes to make their coverage better (the White House, on the other hand, remains irked that Greenwald can’t tell the difference between the actions they’re doing and the actions Bush did. So they may have the same mindset as Glenn on Hamas in seeing Israel as the villain here, but are still outraged he can’t discern good NSA spying done by Obama over bad NSA spying done by Bush).

jon1979 on August 5, 2014 at 9:18 AM

His must be paralyzing and confusing existence. When all of your opponents are malicious and hard hearted, you excuse yourself of having to expend any real energy seeking to understand their motives. That is a petulant and juvenile way of looking at the world, one which most of us grew out of long ago.

That describes liberals in general. That’s the way the see the rest of the world

NoFanofLibs on August 5, 2014 at 9:19 AM

demanding that the world react to Palestinian deaths as America did to “9/11,”

How about if we react to Palestinian deaths the same way Palestinians reacted to American deaths on 9/11?

Speaking of body counts – ten thousand Arabs die in Syria at the hands of an oppressive Arab dictator – the world yawns. A hundred Arabs die in Gaza at the hands of a defensive Israili democracy – the world goes crazy!

Mordaukar on August 5, 2014 at 9:20 AM

Pretty stupid for an openly gay guy to side with the people who might kill him for being who he is. Leftism ruins everything it touches.

juliesa on August 5, 2014 at 9:04 AM

The self-loathing is strong with this one.

Fallon on August 5, 2014 at 9:20 AM

What’s Greenwald’s policy towards ISIS or, using it’s more ambitious moniker, ISIL? They are killing far more Muslims than Israel on a daily basis with some Christians, Jews, Assyrians, and Mandaeans thrown in for good measure.

Viator on August 5, 2014 at 9:22 AM

Hamas is not a race.

fortcoins on August 5, 2014 at 8:44 AM

I agree. It is a Levantine food dip or spread made from cooked, mashed chickpeas blended with tahini, olive oil, lemon juice, salt and garlic.

Wait all these articles were talking about Hamas and not hummus? Man, this RedNeck needs to get out more. I thought Hamas lobbing rockets was a new show on the Food Network.

HonestLib on August 5, 2014 at 9:22 AM

“There’s no question that the way that the American media covers this conflict is based on the principle that Israeli lives are just inherently more valuable than Palestinian lives,” Greenwald slandered.

According to Hamas when exchanging prisoners, 1 Israeli = 1,000 Palestinians.

Resist We Much on August 5, 2014 at 8:46 AM

This. And not just that. Every action Hamas takes demonstrates at best, indifference, and at worst, active hostility towards, the lives of their own people.

If Israeli lives are treated as a much bigger deal by the media, it’s because they act like people who value their own lives.

Hamas, and sadly, many of their civilian enablers as well, have decided that their disastrous jihad is more important than their own lives, or their children’s lives. And now their apologists want to complain when others follow suit?

RINO in Name Only on August 5, 2014 at 9:29 AM

Odd that Greenwald doesn’t take Hamas to task for putting the Palestinians in harms way.

Total stooge.

darwin on August 5, 2014 at 9:30 AM

Remember, kids. When Hamas uses civilians as sheilds, it is Isreal’s fault.

Just like back in the Bush days where, when an IUD, created and set by muslim terrorists, would blow up and kill civilians, those deaths were counted as U.S. kills.

DethMetalCookieMonst on August 5, 2014 at 9:32 AM

Breathlessly waiting for jimbo56 and Tlaloc to shoot their mouths off re. this…

Del Dolemonte on August 5, 2014 at 9:36 AM

A clue for leftist white trash everywhere, ginning up racial tensions to mask their own failures in life.

Israelis and Palestinians are the same race.

You fail, Glenn.

MNHawk on August 5, 2014 at 9:38 AM

Oh, man. I really hate to be in the position of defending people like Marc Lamont Hill, but aren’t both sides in this debate accusing the other of base and racist motives? Hasn’t our side been accusing the other of anti-semitism? I’ve been reading a lot of that throughout the recent hostilities and I don’t disagree with that analysis. But to work ourselves into a high dudgeon when others use the same arguments against us? Maybe it’s time for thicker skin.

rogaineguy on August 5, 2014 at 9:43 AM

Remember its Hamas counting casualties. And its been proven that casualties are reused — and Palestinians feel it is part of their duty of act as casualties every couple days. So where are the funerals for all these folks? Just like Sandy Hook, no names, no bodies, no funerals.

KenInIL on August 5, 2014 at 9:44 AM

Are we sure Greenwald isn’t the love child of Ron Paul?

portlandon on August 5, 2014 at 9:44 AM

What media coverage is Greenwald talking about? Granted I don’t watch TV, but all the news I’ve read–including WH “negotiations”- take the view of Israel being the villain and bully and Hamas the victim.

His must be paralyzing and confusing existence.

Yeah, he has a confusing existence like the grammar of that sentence. Oof, Noah.

conservative pilgrim on August 5, 2014 at 9:46 AM

Pretty stupid for an openly gay guy to side with the people who might kill him for being who he is. Leftism ruins everything it touches.

juliesa on August 5, 2014 at 9:04 AM

The self-loathing is strong with this one.

Fallon on August 5, 2014 at 9:20 AM

Like almost all liberals, they either only care about immediate gratification of their goal to take down Western traditions and society, and don’t think the consequences of their actions through, or they think when the moment comes, their own gianormous intellects will protect them from any attacks by the people they’re championing right now in order to feel morally superior to what they see as the obedient (and Judeo-Christian) sheep in the Western nations.

jon1979 on August 5, 2014 at 9:46 AM

Just like back in the Bush days where, when an IUD, created and set by muslim terrorists, would blow up and kill civilians,

DethMetalCookieMonst on August 5, 2014 at 9:32 AM

o.O
Ummmm, I think you meant an IED. An IUD exploding would only kill Sandra Fluke. Though it would be an interesting form of terrorism…….

GWB on August 5, 2014 at 9:47 AM

So one can be racist for opposing an ideology or political party now? So “racist” and “racism” have become meaningless words, correct?

TarasBulbous on August 5, 2014 at 9:48 AM

So where are the funerals for all these folks?

KenInIL on August 5, 2014 at 9:44 AM

Oh, they have funerals. Of course, when they drop the body and it gets up and walks away (wish I could find that video), it shows that even funerals don’t mean much in Paliwood.

GWB on August 5, 2014 at 9:49 AM

Remember its Hamas counting casualties. And its been proven that casualties are reused — and Palestinians feel it is part of their duty of act as casualties every couple days. So where are the funerals for all these folks? Just like Sandy Hook, no names, no bodies, no funerals.

KenInIL on August 5, 2014 at 9:44 AM

Unfortunately we have to assume that 99% of the “news” coming out of Gaza is theater, but what does it say about our gullible media when they believe that theater? I love the never ending footage of rubble strewn streets as well. How many of those buildings were actually destroyed by Hamas missiles falling short of Israel?

NotCoach on August 5, 2014 at 9:50 AM

Is this tool on the Qatari payroll?

vnvet on August 5, 2014 at 9:51 AM

So one can be racist for opposing an ideology or political party now? So “racist” and “racism” have become meaningless words, correct?

TarasBulbous on August 5, 2014 at 9:48 AM

That ship sailed long ago. 2007ish. Has anyone coined a term for the default argument of “raaaacist!”, à la Godwin’s law?

conservative pilgrim on August 5, 2014 at 9:53 AM

How about if we react to Palestinian deaths the same way Palestinians reacted to American deaths on 9/11?

Mordaukar on August 5, 2014 at 9:20 AM

Dancin’ in the streets, Baby!

Closet Optimist on August 5, 2014 at 9:59 AM

Oh, man. I really hate to be in the position of defending people like Marc Lamont Hill, but aren’t both sides in this debate accusing the other of base and racist motives? Hasn’t our side been accusing the other of anti-semitism?

Yes. Your point?

I’ve been reading a lot of that throughout the recent hostilities and I don’t disagree with that analysis. But to work ourselves into a high dudgeon when others use the same arguments against us? Maybe it’s time for thicker skin.

rogaineguy on August 5, 2014 at 9:43 AM

So, let me make sure I understand this argument. You agree that Palestinians are immersed in Jew-hatred, and yet despite this being the truth, if we dare to point this truth out, we forfeit the moral authority to reject flagrantly absurd accusations of racism against us?

Do actual facts mean literally nothing to you?

RINO in Name Only on August 5, 2014 at 10:01 AM

His must be paralyzing and confusing existence. When all of your

opponents are malicious and hard hearted, you excuse yourself of having to expend any real energy seeking to understand their motives. That is a petulant and juvenile way of looking at the world, one which most of us grew out of long ago.

Projecting.

Everyone portrays their opposition thusly.

Rush had a recording of Bill Buckley, (who?), on his show from the 90s trying to use his idea of big words to state that he shouldn’t have to explain why he feels the way he does about feminism, culture, etc.

So not only does he “excuse yourself of having to expend any real energy seeking to understand their motives,” he also doesn’t even want to understand his own.

It seems this is a trend.

antisense on August 5, 2014 at 10:04 AM

Oh, man. I really hate to be in the position of defending people like Marc Lamont Hill, but aren’t both sides in this debate accusing the other of base and racist motives? Hasn’t our side been accusing the other of anti-semitism? I’ve been reading a lot of that throughout the recent hostilities and I don’t disagree with that analysis. But to work ourselves into a high dudgeon when others use the same arguments against us? Maybe it’s time for thicker skin.

rogaineguy on August 5, 2014 at 9:43 AM

MLH’s argument was that Israel has an “unfair” advantage over Hamas/Palestine with the dome. Since when did fighting fair between sides become a requirement in war? It’s madness. Hardly worth defending his position. Read Sowell’s recent article, “Is Thinking Obsolete?”

There is an element of anti-Semitism in the opposition to Israel. Just because people overuse the racist and anti-Semitic charge doesn’t dismiss its truth.

While some will disagree with me, I see the Israeli/Palestinian conflict as a religious one, not a race based or political one. That is the ultimate motivation from Hamas and those who seek Israel’s annihilation anyway.

conservative pilgrim on August 5, 2014 at 10:09 AM

Just like back in the Bush days where, when an IUD, created and set by muslim terrorists, would blow up and kill civilians,

DethMetalCookieMonst on August 5, 2014 at 9:32 AM

o.O
Ummmm, I think you meant an IED. An IUD exploding would only kill Sandra Fluke. Though it would be an interesting form of terrorism…….

GWB on August 5, 2014 at 9:47 AM

Haha. Must have been autocorrect.

conservative pilgrim on August 5, 2014 at 10:11 AM

Rush had a recording of Bill Buckley, (who?), on his show from the 90s trying to use his idea of big words to state that he shouldn’t have to explain why he feels the way he does about feminism, culture, etc.

antisense on August 5, 2014 at 10:04 AM

Can you provide a link and actually be useful? I would love to listen to that.

NotCoach on August 5, 2014 at 10:11 AM

If Gaza were an American suburb, all of their children would have been removed by child protective services, with most of the adults filling up the prison system.

papertiger on August 5, 2014 at 10:21 AM

Heh! Muslims Vermin are not a race.

BL@KBIRD on August 5, 2014 at 10:22 AM

The Arabs are also Semitic.

ConstantineXI on August 5, 2014 at 9:15 AM

I worked with a woman of Syrian descent years ago. She about jumped down my throat when I told her the Arabs and Israelis were the same people.

crankyoldlady on August 5, 2014 at 10:24 AM

‘By citing the body count disparity and demanding that the world react to Palestinian deaths as America did to “9/11,” Greenwald asks his audience to abandon reason and logic and surrender to emotion. 

Logically, the Gazan death toll is underrated according to Hamas’ calculus; when they demand 1000 prisoners in exchange for 1 israeli solder, they should expect 1000 dead Gazans for every Israeli killed. Fair and just as far as I’m concerned.

AH_C on August 5, 2014 at 10:28 AM

While some will disagree with me, I see the Israeli/Palestinian conflict as a religious one, not a race based or political one. That is the ultimate motivation from Hamas and those who seek Israel’s annihilation anyway.

conservative pilgrim on August 5, 2014 at 10:09 AM

Not disagreeing…just adding to your thought.

Islam is much more than a religion.

To quote Bill Shankly….”Football’s not a matter of life and death … it’s more important than that,”

I think you get my point.

HonestLib on August 5, 2014 at 10:28 AM

Israeli lives are just inherently more valuable than Palestinian lives,”

Years ago there was a website that kept track of Palestinian children killed each weekend … by Palestinians.

Their habit of celebrating birthdays, weddings, etc. by shooting their guns in the air always resulted in a few stray bullets hitting a toddler or teenager and killing them dead.

This went on week after week, so it’s obvious to anyone paying attention that they don’t value Palestinian lives, right Glenn?

WhirledPeas on August 5, 2014 at 10:29 AM

Hamas is not a race.

fortcoins on August 5, 2014 at 8:44 AM

I agree. It is a Levantine food dip or spread made from cooked, mashed chickpeas blended with tahini, olive oil, lemon juice, salt and garlic.

Wait all these articles were talking about Hamas and not hummus? Man, this RedNeck needs to get out more. I thought Hamas lobbing rockets was a new show on the Food Network.

HonestLib on August 5, 2014 at 9:22 AM

I don’t know…..if you substituted mashed Muslims for mashed Chickpeas, you have an excellent pig feed.

BL@KBIRD on August 5, 2014 at 10:33 AM

This kind of puerile tantrum is so sad it’s almost not worth posting. This point of view is, however, valuable as it reveals that many aspire not to nudge the press toward neutrality and objectivity, but to muscle and intimidate the media into mirroring a preferred point of view.

I’m not defending the idiocy of people claiming press coverage of Gaza is “racist” against Hamas.

But, the above quote illustrates a significant problem. That anyone believes that the press is ever – EVER – “neutral” or “objective” or that the press strives for same is really, really stupid.

The problem with press bias is not that press bias exists (human nature cannot be a “problem”, it simply is), but that people pretend that press bias doesn’t exist and claim that this news agency or that news agency is providing “objective” and “neutral” coverage, when nothing could be further from the truth.

Until recent history, everyone knew that the press was biased and everyone accepted it. Thus, newspapers proudly displayed their party affiliation in their names (many newspapers still have “republican” or “democrat” as part of their names for this reason). And even if not part of their names, everyone knew which party that paper was affiliated with.

thus, you took the news from that paper knowing the bias/advocacy that the news was pushing. And, the thing is, that is the way it should be. It is impossible to not have bias in reporting. Now, that is not to say that some reports can’t be fairly objective. Depending on the issue and how passionate the reporter/editor/publisher feel about the issue and depending on the integrity and professionalism of the reporter/editor/publisher, a report on this or that subject can indeed be fairly objective.

But, even the most objective report will be based on bias. How so? Well, what issues get covered are decisions made and formed by bias (is the IRS scandal news? Why? Why not? Those answers are going to depend on your worldview).

Where a report is placed in a paper is going to be based on bias (is this front-page news, or should it be buried deep in the paper?).

the headline given the report is going to be based on bias (should the headline slam the administration or try to soft-sell it?).

Who is questioned for the story is going to be based on bias (who does the reporter know? Who does the reporter trust? Who does the reporter believe?).

what quotes are ultimately used in the story are going to be based on bias (again, who does the reporter believe? Which quotes say what the reporter wants the story to convey?).

What leads are followed in “investigating” the story is going to be based on bias (again, what does the reporter think is credible, what does the reporter think “furthers” the story).

How much money/assets are used to pursue the story is based on bias (what does the editor/publisher think about the story? Do they think the story is “important”?).

Add to the philosophical bias of reports/editors/publishers the fact that “journalists” people are not usually that bright and usually not well educated on what they are covering, and the chances of getting an unbiased, objective, accurate report about anything is fairly remote.

Anyone who has ever been involved in something reported on by the media knows that almost every report gets vast amounts of things wrong – even when it is not based on the reporter’s bias. And, when reporters/editors/publishers err due to ignorance, they err toward their personal biases. So, for instance, in political reporting the errors will almost always benefit the left.

So, the idea that any story, even about a local spelling bee, has no bias and is “objective” is idiotic. and that erstwhile conservatives continue to pretend otherwise simply reinforces to LIVs and other low-intelligence people that what they read in the media or hear on TV is “unbiased” and “objective” rather than biased and always at some level advocating a position hurts conservatism.

We should not be clamoring for or advocating “objective” journalism, because there is no such thing – it is impossible. Instead, we should be clamoring for and advocating that journalists and the newspapers/tv stations they work for admit their biases up front and allow people to take those biases into account.

Being open about one’s biases would a) allow the consumer to be a little more wary of taking all news reports at face value; and b) force journalists to strive to be more objective.

the latter is counter-intuitive, but true. If biases are admitted, journalists would have to work harder to earn and maintain credibility as being “objective” and fair in their reporting. As things now stand, because most people are conned into believing that journalists are somehow “objective” and non-biased, journalists feel free to be as biased and partisan as they can get away with in their reporting. And because everyone within the media covers for each other, journalists can get away with a lot in terms of being biased and partisan.

Once the veil is lifted and people become aware that journalists are biased and partisan, competition would exist amongst journalists to earn credibility as “fair” and “objective”, which should force them to a) call each other out on blatant bias and partisanship and b) strive harder to be fair.

There will always be out-and-out partisan hacks, but they would be openly identified as such. That doesn’t mean their reporting is always wrong (i.e., you can be a far-left liberal partisan and still be correct in uncovering and reporting on corruption by a republican incumbent or vice-versa), just that everything an open partisan hack reports has to be carefully reviewed, vetted and taken with a grain of salt.

As it stands now, all journalists, no matter how biased, get a pass because people want to believe this fiction that journalists are “objective”. How journalists achieved this holy status is one of the great cons of the 20th Century and has done more to further leftism in America than almost anything else.

Monkeytoe on August 5, 2014 at 10:35 AM

As a follow-up to:

Monkeytoe on August 5, 2014 at 10:35 AM

This point of view is, however, valuable as it reveals that many aspire not to nudge the press toward neutrality and objectivity, but to muscle and intimidate the media into mirroring a preferred point of view.

where are the people who are trying to nudge the press into objectivity and neutrality? the left wants the press to push leftism and the right want the press to push conservatism. Everyone wants the press to push their own preferred policies, etc. and report on their favored issues/policies/programs kindly.

Only fools believe there is any “pressure” on the press to be objective.

Sure, the way things stand right now, conservatives would be pretty damn happy just to get objectivity rather than outright liberal advocacy from the press. But, ultimately, that wouldn’t hold. But, that desire for “objectivity” is only there because “objectivity” is so much better than pure leftism that we currently have. If we obtained “objectivity” (which, as I point out above is impossible due to human nature) the right would then want things reported on from a conservative bias.

Advocates always advocate. Partisans always advocate. Anyone with an opinion is going to push that opinion and want the press to push that opinion. Nobody with a pulse is going to “lean on” the press to be “objective”.

It’s just silly to claim that.

Monkeytoe on August 5, 2014 at 10:46 AM

Doyle Hargrave on August 5, 2014 at 10:37 AM

What are Mercedes Iraqis?

Monkeytoe on August 5, 2014 at 10:48 AM

HonestLib on August 5, 2014 at 10:28 AM

Yes, I hear what you’re saying.

Sure, there are nominal religious adherents on both sides, but the objective of each side is so diametrically opposed. Islam is wholistic: domination & conversion of everyone to their way of life (religious). While Israel would prefer to exist peacefully and mind their own business (non-religious). Many Israelis view their religion as cultural, and maybe the Muslim radicals and anti-Semites despise that? There’s more to it, but maybe that’s a partial reason. Ultimately, the conflict of Israel vs (fill in the blank) goes back thousands of years.

conservative pilgrim on August 5, 2014 at 10:49 AM

“There’s no question that the way that the American media covers this conflict is based on the principle that Israeli lives are just inherently more valuable than Palestinian lives,” Greenwald slandered.

The lives of friends and allies who share our ideals and way of life are infinitely more valuable than the lives of people who want to kill us all.

myiq2xu on August 5, 2014 at 10:49 AM

Hamasholes are Islamic cultist terrorists. That means you can’t trust a damn thing they say. Their cult instructs them to lie to infidels to achieve their goals.

Israel should wipe them out completely, until they are UNABLE to wage war of any kind.

Meople on August 5, 2014 at 10:50 AM

as stated before this is Hamas only play. They deliberately create the environment in order to get their people killed. The only people who do not see this is the libs. why they don’t condemn hamas for creating this scenario is beyond any rational explanation. All libs are truly useful idiots.

warmairfan on August 5, 2014 at 10:54 AM

I worked with a woman of Syrian descent years ago. She about jumped down my throat when I told her the Arabs and Israelis were the same people.

crankyoldlady on August 5, 2014 at 10:24 AM

I wouldn’t say the same people, just the same ancestor. Both Jews and Arabs descend from Shem, Noah’s son, just as Indo-Europeans descend from Japheth and Africans descend from Ham. Arabs such as Gazans can be anti-Jew and anti-Israel, but they can’t rationally be anti-semite, unless they are self-hating.

Immolate on August 5, 2014 at 10:56 AM

U.S. General Killed by Afghan Soldier

Yep, the Talibama Regime is really doing a great job there.

The Talibama Regime is just as big of a threat and enemy to America as any Islamic Cult terrorist.

Meople on August 5, 2014 at 11:04 AM

Timely reminder for those who see Greenwald as some sort of Libertarian champion – he’s a actually a garden variety liberal jackass.

Jaibones on August 5, 2014 at 11:09 AM

Right outside the hotels where all the MSM stay:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_fP6mlNSK8

They have to see this crap all the time but they still push the meme that the Israelis are committing war crimes. They are not. Each Hamas rocket shot is shot at a civilian population in Israel. That is a war crime.

Blake on August 5, 2014 at 11:09 AM

Are Native Americans nativist?

Star Bird on August 5, 2014 at 11:14 AM

I think Greenwald feels that as long as Hamas isn’t conducting any intelligence work using the internet, then he really doesn’t have a bone to pick.

verbaluce on August 5, 2014 at 11:23 AM

If I were say 5’2″ and 140 lbs soaking wet, why would I throw french fries at the 6’4″ 250 lb guy and his family across the aisle?

Would I expect him to ONLY throw French fries back?

Should I complain if he does more than that?

What if they had baked potatoes instead of fries?

Oxymoron on August 5, 2014 at 11:30 AM

Glenn Greenwald likes living in Brazil for the same reasons Aurthur C. Clarke liked Sri Lanka: the impoverished little boys there will do anything for a buck, and parents and authorities can be bought off cheap.

Rusty Nail on August 5, 2014 at 11:38 AM

Glenn Greenwald likes living in Brazil for the same reasons Aurthur C. Clarke liked Sri Lanka: the impoverished little boys there will do anything for a buck, and parents and authorities can be bought off cheap.

Rusty Nail on August 5, 2014 at 11:38 AM

I’m not a Greenwald fan…but that it stupid.

verbaluce on August 5, 2014 at 11:43 AM

Greenwald is Jewish and gay. Yet he backs those who kill Jews and gays.

He is a sad, pathetic, loathsome man.

Bob from Ohio on August 5, 2014 at 11:55 AM

What’s with the fucking auto-start vid that you can’t shut off?

mojo on August 5, 2014 at 11:59 AM

I thought Hamas lobbing rockets was a new show on the Food Network.

HonestLib on August 5, 2014 at 9:22 AM

I’ve never seen a hamas lobbinng rocket, how does the rocket pick up a hamas to lob it?

dmacleo on August 5, 2014 at 12:03 PM

I’m not a Greenwald fan…but that it stupid.

verbaluce on August 5, 2014 at 11:43 AM

proofread before calling someone stupid you racist pos.

dmacleo on August 5, 2014 at 12:04 PM

When all of your opponents are malicious and hard hearted, you excuse yourself of having to expend any real energy seeking to understand their motives. That is a petulant and juvenile way of looking at the world, one which most of us grew out of long ago.

This is a founding and guiding principal of nearly all modern leftwing politics, is it not?

Sacramento on August 5, 2014 at 12:31 PM

I’ve never seen a hamas lobbinng rocket, how does the rocket pick up a hamas to lob it?

dmacleo on August 5, 2014 at 12:03 PM

Maybe the same way things never went quite right for Wiley Coyote?

wifarmboy on August 5, 2014 at 12:44 PM

What’s with the fucking auto-start vid that you can’t shut off?

mojo on August 5, 2014 at 11:59 AM

Try using the Firefox browser with the Ad Block Plus add-on. That way you can filter the site those vids come from.

Del Dolemonte on August 5, 2014 at 2:15 PM

I was going to type allot of expletives in reference to Greenwald’s stupid perspective but I’ll just call him an idiot!

MCGIRV on August 5, 2014 at 2:41 PM

I’d have gone with “miserable,” but whatever.

Fallon on August 5, 2014 at 8:49 AM

And don’t forget “pathetic”.

PS, hope you are doing well sis.

arnold ziffel on August 5, 2014 at 2:43 PM

Snowden’s PR man.

He’s all yours, Snowdenmaniacs.

thebrokenrattle on August 5, 2014 at 4:13 PM

Greenwald should invite a few of his Hamas buddies to spend the weekend in south Chicago, where most folks are hated equally. If they survive, they’ll be happy to scoot back to Gaza and face the Israeli’s.

abester on August 5, 2014 at 8:10 PM

Oh, you mean like those evil Russkies?

What an utterly idiotic thing to say. No American leader ever killed 10s of millions of people for political convenience. That distinction belongs to the Chinese, the Germans, the Cambodians, and the Russians. No American leader ever told his geopolitical opposite number that we would bury them and their children would live under us.

There is actual evil. Just because people like you cheapen the term beyond all recognition by ascribing it to any people who want to live in freedom and safety, does not mean that the rest of have to be just as stupid.

Dirty Creature on August 6, 2014 at 6:53 AM