WaPo: Romney 2016 idea gaining steam among his supporters

posted at 11:21 am on August 4, 2014 by Allahpundit

You didn’t think I was going to let this tasty morsel from Saturday go undevoured, did you?

Pay attention to the timeline.

Asked whether he and other Republican officials are coalescing around Romney as a 2016 favorite, [Wyoming Gov. Matt] Mead said: “There is a movement afoot. . . . I’d tell him, ‘Governor Romney, people here in Wyoming and around the country would encourage you to take another look at it.’ ”…

In June, Romney’s donor retreat in Park City, Utah, had the feel of a revival. Although Christie and Paul spoke at the elite confab, the buzz was about drafting Romney…

Still, the Chamber’s Reed said he expects Romney to assess the GOP field sometime in 2015 and give serious consideration to another candidacy.

He could come on the scene around Labor Day [of 2015] because he’s able to flip his switch,” Reed said. He argued that Romney could activate his fundraising network and be in a “commanding position” faster than any other prospective candidate.

Coincidentally, he’s been spending time lately in Iowa and New Hampshire campaigning for Joni Ernst and Scott Brown, respectively. And one of his advisors makes a fair point: Romney’s in awfully high demand among Republican candidates this fall for a guy who got beat badly in the last presidential election. I think that’s mostly because the GOP lacks any big-name centrists right now; if you’re looking for someone whose name everyone knows and you’re wary of bringing someone too conservative to your state so soon before the general election, Romney’s basically the default choice. But if you’re looking for evidence that the stink of loser isn’t so thick around him as to make him unviable in 2016, there you go. There’s no denying, at least, that he’s still sufficiently well liked by voters — or is perceived that way by Republican candidates — to make him a net asset on the trail.

But back to the timeline. What should we make of that “Labor Day 2015″ target date? It could just be one friend’s strategic hunch but I think it makes sense. For starters, it would shorten the primary campaign for him. One thing you learn from that Netflix documentary is how grueling and emotionally draining his 2008 campaign was for his family; Ann Romney started off opposed to another run in 2012 because the demands were so heavy. There’s no way they’re going to go through that again, it seems — but a late entry, with just 12-14 months from the time he jumps in to election day 2016 might be tolerable. Also, waiting until Labor Day or later would spare Romney the humiliation of jumping in early and then watching as some other centrist, like Jeb or Christie, jumps in later and gobbles up his support. It’d be one thing to lose to a conservative in an establishment/grassroots showdown for the nomination, another thing to watch your own base in the middle defect to someone else. If Jeb declares next spring and GOP centrists seem happy with him, Romney could quietly decline to run with no embarrassment. And if Jeb doesn’t run and Christie struggles early, waiting until late in the primary campaign to get in would give Romney some dramatic oomph as the centrist savior who’s going to save the establishment from Rand Paul or Ted Cruz. He’s the only RINO in the field potentially with enough name recognition to be competitive right away. If a poll comes out in September showing Paul leading in Iowa and Cruz hot on his heels, Boehnerites are going to have a panic attack and draft someone who can quickly turn the tide. Iowans already know Romney, he can raise boatloads of money in a pinch, and he’ll have endless favors owed him from all the pols he’s been campaigning for lately. He’s the obvious choice.

And like DrewM says, if Romney refuses and the establishment still has its heart dead-set on a flip-flopper, there’s always Rubio. Exit quotation:


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jake-the-goose on August 4, 2014 at 12:56 PM

4-5 million people sat out the last election. Including a ton of McCain voters. If someone isn’t buying you RINO product then you should consider changing your strategy. Don’t insult them.

I also think the chance that Bush, Romney, or Christie is the nominee is maybe 10%.

Bill C on August 4, 2014 at 5:41 PM

HE’S THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN BEAT OBAMA HILLARY! IF YOU DON’T SUPPORT HIM YOU’RE A [moron, religious bigot, America hater, traitor]!!!!

Can’t wait.

Team Romney was using Democrat tactics against Republicans long before Cochran thought of it.

29Victor on August 4, 2014 at 5:51 PM

For all the anti-Romney sentiment, I still don’t see a viable alternative at this point. The last thing we need is our version of Obama 2.0; someone who we think says all the right things but has no leadership ability to, a) get things done, or b) has a clue how to run a country.

I’m all for someone other than Romney, let’s just find that individual.

Tater Salad on August 4, 2014 at 5:53 PM

I voted for that loser once…not doing it again. I’d probably vote for either Cruz or Palin, but that’s it.

Dr. ZhivBlago on August 4, 2014 at 6:03 PM

We can harangue conservatives for not being more excited about him, or we can support a candidate next time who gets the base excited.

bluegill on August 4, 2014 at 5:31 PM

.
I would rather support the most qualified person to be President – one who can take on ALL the problems- not just the handling of a singular issue.
Romney was the right choice in 2012- on that there can be no debate. There was no one else that could match up to Chicago Jesus any better- anyone else would have been slaughtered much worse.
Oct 3rd, 2012 proved that.
No one will ever rock the Commie progtard world like that again.
Rotsa ruck on that talent search.

FlaMurph on August 4, 2014 at 6:09 PM

Romney 2016 – Because it is better to lose to the Democrat Marxists than let a conservative be elected.

Pattosensei on August 4, 2014 at 6:15 PM

Great, just GREAT. Rommey becomes the Palin of 2016.(The big A is overjoyed, post write themselves……)

flackcatcher on August 4, 2014 at 6:59 PM

Just great! Here we finally have a chance to getting rid of 0bamacare and the liberals in the USA are already working to elect Willard who would bring it back.

Beam me up, Scotty!

DannoJyd on August 4, 2014 at 7:15 PM

He didn’t blow it
rockmom

Mitt Romney: “I don’t care about half the country and I like firing people.”
Yeah, he did blow it.
xblade on August 4, 2014 at 12:04 PM

Ayatollah Ebola should have been easy pickings for any candidate who was at least 10% conservative

Brock Robamney on August 4, 2014 at 7:50 PM

I DO care what the GOP establishment says and DOES. And yes, I still hold the option of voting (D) to oust an establishment (R). I view it as short term pain for long term gain, in my book.

Meople on August 4, 2014 at 2:47 PM

Whelp, you are an idiot. No need to read the rest of your post.

V7_Sport on August 4, 2014 at 8:39 PM

dominigan on August 4, 2014 at 3:02 PM

You seem to think that somehow voting for the latest GOP RINO of the month will stop it from burning. It won’t.

So, you are advocating that we just let the country burn… if so:
If you really believe we should you owe it to yourself and everyone else to get out of the country. If the United States means so little to you that you are willing to let it burn then you need to get out.

Many of us have decided that it just doesn’t matter since both parties are brandishing torches at our country.

So the only other choice is to just let the country collapse, the one that was handed to you by the blood and sacrifice of better men. Because maintaining the republic is hard, you have decided to let it burn. Great legacy you are willing to leave. You ought to be real proud of the way you have guarded your birthright.

We are simply preparing for when the flames reach us and we have to do what we must to protect our family and friends from the flames.

Yeah, in your pretend scenario you get to play Red Dawn and guard the canned goods and all that. Go play in your tree fort.

Sneering at prepardness only shows how illogical and partisan you are.

I’ve seen what a 2000lb bomb can do to someone who thought they were prepared. Regardless, thinking that this is a good idea or that something good will come from it is pure, unadulterated stupidity. It’s dumb. Thinking that it’s a good idea to let it all burn because somehow you will be put in charge of ruling the rubble is little boy thought. It’s imaginary land stuff. I too used to play with fireworks and bb-guns with the other kids in the woods but I grew out of it, I grew up and got a mortgage. Running around in the elements with my 91 year old mother in an Alice pack because idiots like you thought they could build a better utopia than Jefferson, Madison and Washington is just not on.

We are above that. e are for our nation, not its political parties.

“We”! Did the other Wolverines nominate you as their spokesman? You aren’t for your nation, if you were you would be fighting to restore it, not rationalizing letting it burn, you are for putting on a display of your superiority and you have rationalized capitulation as courage. It isn’t. You are a bunch of adolescent children who are helping the socialists make a huge mess that real men are going to have to clean up.

V7_Sport on August 4, 2014 at 9:02 PM

As opposed to the bandwagon hopping “tru-cons” who stay home on election day and help elect socialists because they got butthurt in the primaries.

V7_Sport on August 4, 2014 at 2:25 PM

Because the establishment folks are so supportive of conservatives who make it to the ballot, rather than staying home, or throwing in with/supporting the Democrats, right sport?

Midas on August 4, 2014 at 4:05 PM

I’m voting for Dave Brat even though Cantor would have probably have been better for my business. Read: Not staying home, not crying about it for years, not playing the victim, not making the situation worse, not voting for democrats because I’m butthurt, not writing the country off and letting it burn because I didn’t get my own way. I’m doing what I’ve always done, Voting for the most conservative, electible candidate and working to hold them accountable.
You are the one who was talking about voting for the democrats.

V7_Sport on August 4, 2014 at 9:08 PM

Romney is doing his best to tamp down this grassroots wildfire. I’m sure he isn’t going to run again.

cimbri on August 4, 2014 at 9:12 PM

Meople

You have the GOPe pegged. Too bad the rest of the so called conservatives are nothing more than Republicans. And that includes Rush Limbaugh who is a party man. When push comes to shove, Rush is a GOPe supporter.

they lie on August 4, 2014 at 9:18 PM

For all the anti-Romney sentiment, I still don’t see a viable alternative at this point.

Tater Salad on August 4, 2014 at 5:53 PM

Heh. I could think of 50 alternatives more viable than Romney. I can’t wait to see that “ELECTABILITY!!111!!!!” argument again from the MIttbots.

ddrintn on August 4, 2014 at 9:20 PM

Not staying home, not crying about it for years, not playing the victim, not making the situation worse, not voting for democrats because I’m butthurt, not writing the country off and letting it burn because I didn’t get my own way.

V7_Sport on August 4, 2014 at 9:08 PM

Sounds like you’re describing Mike Castle supporters.

ddrintn on August 4, 2014 at 9:22 PM

HE’S THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN BEAT OBAMA HILLARY! IF YOU DON’T SUPPORT HIM YOU’RE A [moron, religious bigot, America hater, traitor]!!!!

Can’t wait.

Team Romney was using Democrat tactics against Republicans long before Cochran thought of it.

29Victor on August 4, 2014 at 5:51 PM

That’s because the race baiting BIGOT Stuart Stevens managed both campaigns. What do you expect from a dork who runs campaigns to elect 3rd world dictators.

Yeah, Mittens is such a wonderful executive, LOL. He couldn’t manage anything if his daddy’s money didn’t grease the skids.

They can GO TO HELL!

Full disclosure: I wasn’t fooled by Etch-A-Sketch/Big Government Ryan last time. If I didn’t vote for them then I sure as hell won’t vote for them in 2016.

Jayrae on August 4, 2014 at 9:24 PM

dominigan on August 4, 2014 at 3:02 PM

You seem to think that somehow voting for the latest GOP RINO of the month will stop it from burning. It won’t.

So, you are advocating that we just let the country burn…

V7_Sport on August 4, 2014 at 9:08 PM

No, he or she is saying that the country is going to burn whether it’s the GOPe or the DNC running the show.

ddrintn on August 4, 2014 at 9:24 PM

V7_Sport on August 4, 2014 at 9:08 PM

Honestly: how would the country be radically — or even noticeably — different if at this moment we were governed by a Romney-McConnell-Boehner troika? Be specific.

ddrintn on August 4, 2014 at 9:27 PM

We can harangue conservatives for not being more excited about him, or we can support a candidate next time who gets the base excited.

bluegill on August 4, 2014 at 5:31 PM

Should we have a quota for conservatives to get the nomination. Would that get people excited. Many of us have remained perplexed as to how to satisfy disaffected cons. Everyone is free to run for office.

cimbri on August 4, 2014 at 9:34 PM

Should we have a quota for conservatives to get the nomination. Would that get people excited. Many of us have remained perplexed as to how to satisfy disaffected cons. Everyone is free to run for office.

cimbri on August 4, 2014 at 9:34 PM

Don’t sit there and snort about “disaffected cons” and then blame them for this or that squish getting his ass handed to him at the polls.

ddrintn on August 4, 2014 at 9:35 PM

Honestly: how would the country be radically — or even noticeably — different if at this moment we were governed by a Romney-McConnell-Boehner troika? Be specific.

ddrintn on August 4, 2014 at 9:27 PM

Right out of the gate, the F22 would not have been cancelled. NASA’s Constellation would not have been cancelled. The military has taken a shellacking from liberal govt. the past 6 years, with many career officers and enlisted men losing their jobs.

The Bush tax cuts would not have expired.

There would be no Obamacare.

Many right wing federal judges would have been appointed instead of lefties.

The list is endless. You even asking that question shows how delusional some people have become.

cimbri on August 4, 2014 at 9:40 PM

Honestly: how would the country be radically — or even noticeably — different if at this moment we were governed by a Romney-McConnell-Boehner troika? Be specific.

ddrintn on August 4, 2014 at 9:27 PM

.
Different?
LOL ….. It would have been so much worse with Romney……
He would have had TWICE as many scandals…would have rammed through single payer HC………he would have turned the IRS on EVERY Tea Party group……
America is WAY better off, with your guy as Prezzie……

FlaMurph on August 4, 2014 at 9:40 PM

Right out of the gate, the F22 would not have been cancelled. NASA’s Constellation would not have been cancelled. The military has taken a shellacking from liberal govt. the past 6 years, with many career officers and enlisted men losing their jobs.

The Bush tax cuts would not have expired.

There would be no Obamacare.

Many right wing federal judges would have been appointed instead of lefties.

The list is endless. You even asking that question shows how delusional some people have become.

cimbri on August 4, 2014 at 9:40 PM

No no no…I mean if that trio had been in charge from January 2013, not January 2009. Obamacare would still be very much there, only probably made a bit more efficient; and the trio would be doing whatever least ruffles the feathers of the NYT and WaPo.

ddrintn on August 4, 2014 at 9:43 PM

Different?
LOL ….. It would have been so much worse with Romney……

FlaMurph on August 4, 2014 at 9:40 PM

Maybe, in a lot of ways, because then conservatives would be taking the rap for Romney’s squishery.

ddrintn on August 4, 2014 at 9:45 PM

Sounds like you’re describing Mike Castle supporters.

ddrintn on August 4, 2014 at 9:22 PM

I guess I should be relieved that we didn’t insist on a bankrupt witch with an 85 IQ who thought masturbation would be a good campaign issue.

No, he or she is saying that the country is going to burn whether it’s the GOPe or the DNC running the show.

And if you believe that you owe it to yourself to get out. Flee the sinking ship. I’ll fight it to the last but we need patriots to roll this back, not dead weight and certainly not traitors. As it stands now we are in a mess, a huge one, but it can be rolled back. Yes, there will be inflation and yes, there will be austerity and yes there will be hard choices but this can be done if we actually start to do it.

Honestly: how would the country be radically — or even noticeably — different if at this moment we were governed by a Romney-McConnell-Boehner troika? Be specific.

We wouldn’t be having the border crisis, we would be shipping them back. We wouldn’t be a laughing stock with Putin in the Ukraine, Al Qaeda wouldn’t be in charge of an oil producing country in the center of the middle east because woe would have had supported the Iraqi government with air power, we wouldn’t be on our way to a 20 trillion dollar debt because we would be following the law by passing a budget. Obamacare would be in the process of being defunded and gutted. We wouldn’t be doing incredibly stupid things like letting terrorist leaders free to go run the oil producing state we gave them to trade for a deserter.
I’m not saying everything would be fixed, but we would be rolling it back and it would have been an excellent start at cleaning up the mess.
Regardless, it’s academic, we are already on the next set of excuses to lose the next set of elections to keep Obama and Reid in power until we can turn it over to the Clintons to teach the GOPe a lesson or something.

V7_Sport on August 4, 2014 at 9:47 PM

I guess I should be relieved that we didn’t insist on a bankrupt witch with an 85 IQ who thought masturbation would be a good campaign issue.

She didn’t. Butthurt squishes did, though.

And if you believe that you owe it to yourself to get out. Flee the sinking ship.

V7_Sport on August 4, 2014 at 9:47 PM

The sinking ship is the GOP, and yeah, we’re bugging out.

ddrintn on August 4, 2014 at 9:49 PM

We wouldn’t be having the border crisis, we would be shipping them back. … Obamacare would be in the process of being defunded and gutted.

V7_Sport on August 4, 2014 at 9:47 PM

LOL… *shakes head*

ddrintn on August 4, 2014 at 9:54 PM

He has my vote.

rubberneck on August 4, 2014 at 9:56 PM

I guess I should be relieved that we didn’t insist on a bankrupt witch with an 85 IQ who thought masturbation would be a good campaign issue.

She didn’t. Butthurt squishes did, though.

That didn’t make any sense.

And if you believe that you owe it to yourself to get out. Flee the sinking ship.

V7_Sport on August 4, 2014 at 9:47 PM

The sinking ship is the GOP, and yeah, we’re bugging out.

ddrintn on August 4, 2014 at 9:49 PM

No, the Ship is the United States. That’s what you are proposing that we let burn when we hand power to people like Barack Obama, Harry Reid, Valerie Jarrett. That’s who you are empowering, supposedly out of conservative principles.
The “it” in “Let it burn” is the USA. the idea that you are going to escape the consequences by stocking up on canned cling peaches and .22lr is mind numbingly dumb.

V7_Sport on August 4, 2014 at 10:00 PM

No no no…I mean if that trio had been in charge from January 2013, not January 2009. Obamacare would still be very much there, only probably made a bit more efficient; and the trio would be doing whatever least ruffles the feathers of the NYT and WaPo.

ddrintn on August 4, 2014 at 9:43 PM

Romney said on Day 1, he would issue an executive order for a 50 state ACA exemption. Considering how strong the conservative cause was for killing the ACA, it could not have been funded anyway.

Romney would have been much more aggressive on the border, especially since he had promised to finish the fortified fence. he wouldn’t have issued an EO for the dreamers, etc.

I would have to write a very long post to describe the differences between a Romney and Obama govt.

cimbri on August 4, 2014 at 10:00 PM

LOL… *shakes head*

ddrintn on August 4, 2014 at 9:54 PM

Not a rebuttal.

V7_Sport on August 4, 2014 at 10:02 PM

Cruz would get people excited all right. Just as much on the left as on the right. It’ll bring a 15% increase in dead people voting for the Democrats…
SauerKraut537 on August 4, 2014 at 3:55 PM

Dead voters come out of the party machine. The machine works harder only if it fears the opposition. There is nothing to gain by playing safe

A block that should have voted Romney, stayed home. Romney has done nothing to change that equation. But, the Romney machine stacked the 2012 convention to change the rules for 2016 to favor his group using a crooked voice vote gavel’d by Boehner You can watch the voice vote called by Boehner here and here

I can’t think of a single conservative that was permitted to speak at the 2012 convention. Clint Eastwood probably came the closest. Sarah Palin could have really gotten the troops excited.

The speakers generally were as boring as the candidate himself.

bw222 on August 4, 2014 at 5:14 PM

Starting with Christie, each typical demograph got up and talked about themselves and their personal success story. Wrong script when people are hurting. Palin would have been sensational, only because people trust she means what she says. She is not scripted.

The next Republican candidate, Romney or otherwise, will have to speak to the 47%, and articulate the policy changes required to reverse the trends of the last twenty years, and to describe to the 47% why they should have faith that the Republican party is more than a bunch of country clubbers watching the other side of town burn down over cocktails.
The Wild Duck on August 4, 2014 at 4:19 PM

Amnesty says they haven’t got a clue. If they cared about the underemployed half broke American middle class, they could not support amnesty including the dream act because they would be demanding we help the suffering Americans first, including the underemployed blacks of the inner cities. They would denounce the Chamber of Commerce for its public position. They would denounce Obama for sending money to Syria when vets dont get cancer surgery. They would denounce the private armies of the federal agencies, the hollow point bullets, the automatic weapons, the unwarranted NSA data collection even if they could not change the situation.

It is too late to do this now, because public record stands.

Romney’s guy juiced the rules for 2016. On the record

entagor on August 4, 2014 at 10:15 PM

I’m all for someone other than Romney, let’s just find that individual.

Tater Salad on August 4, 2014 at 5:53 PM

That’s where the problem starts. I would go with Rand Paul, but he has already been declared a RINO.

cimbri on August 4, 2014 at 10:22 PM

I can’t think of a single conservative that was permitted to speak at the 2012 convention. Clint Eastwood probably came the closest. Sarah Palin could have really gotten the troops excited.

The speakers generally were as boring as the candidate himself.

bw222 on August 4, 2014 at 5:14 PM

Most conservatives in 2012 were so hyper-politicized, that you couldn’t trust any of them to get the job done at the convention. Kasich in Ohio badmouthed Romney, Palin was calling for an open convention, etc etc. Too many ambitious people, too many divisions, and that’s the main reason Obama won.

cimbri on August 4, 2014 at 10:26 PM

No to Romney. He had his shot. Time for a true winner — step up to the plate, Governor Walker. We need you.

Conservchik on August 4, 2014 at 11:12 PM

Hot Gas chose Rick Perry (Mr. 2 months late activating the National Guard) last time. I’ll stick with Romney, especially since Reagan did an equivalent or more liberal action for every gripe Gassers have about Romney. (EMTALA, Therapeutic Abortion Act, Amnesty, Justice Kennedy & O’Conner, gun control etc.) And they all love Reagan.

Perspicacious on August 5, 2014 at 12:53 AM

Hell to the no. How many times are you going to troll us with Romney “Not the God” Pundit? Seriously?

Theophile on August 5, 2014 at 1:11 AM

Whelp, you are an idiot. No need to read the rest of your post.

V7_Sport on August 4, 2014 at 8:39 PM

Aren’t you the whack job nut case that thinks the path to awesomeness in our government is to vote politicians into the republican party that are near doppelgangers of the Democrat party? Yes, yes you are.
No real need to go any further.

astonerii on August 5, 2014 at 8:05 AM

Mitt has stated–repeatedly and firmly–that he will not run again.

The people hoping that he’ll change his mind are going to be disappointed.

He’s. Not. Running.

Conservative Mischief on August 5, 2014 at 9:54 AM

No…No…and more No. Dole…McCain…Romney…no more. This man will never be supported by Conservatives.

Carolynr on August 5, 2014 at 11:30 AM

Aren’t you the whack job nut case that thinks the path to awesomeness in our government is to vote politicians into the republican party that are near doppelgangers of the Democrat party? Yes, yes you are.
No real need to go any further.

astonerii on August 5, 2014 at 8:05 AM

Ummm… No. Aren’t you the unemployable whackjob who wants to bring about the end of the republic and has been begging people to vote for Obama to that end?

I can vote for Obama. This gives the most value. I am young enough to fight in a civil war today and a decade or so more, thus if I vote Obama, and he can bring the collapse of the American dollar and our economy faster than the R, my vote for him gives me value.
astonerii on June 17, 2011 at 8:47 PM

My argument that the United States of America would finally fail around 2022 do to fiscal limitation seems to have been very conservative. We may not get to 2016 without some kind of breakdown.
The sooner the better I say.

astonerii on July 25, 2014 at 12:55 PM

So if everyone is out of work will misery have enough company?

V7_Sport on August 5, 2014 at 1:00 PM

And if stupid conservatives split the vote again and Romney wins the nomination we have Hillary Clinton for 8 years.

redware on August 5, 2014 at 1:34 PM

Say hello to eight years of Hitlary if Romney is the nominee again. Same with Bush or Gov. Fatass.

pdigaudio on August 5, 2014 at 3:25 PM

Romney said on Day 1, he would issue an executive order for a 50 state ACA exemption.

cimbri on August 4, 2014 at 10:00 PM

Romney said a lot of stuff that was complete bullshyte.

ddrintn on August 5, 2014 at 6:55 PM

I guess I should be relieved that we didn’t insist on a bankrupt witch with an 85 IQ who thought masturbation would be a good campaign issue.

She didn’t. Butthurt squishes did, though.

V7_Sport on August 4, 2014 at 10:00 PM

It was you in the Squish Wing who did the oppo research on O’Donnell. Coons didn’t have to spend a dime. She was far, FAR from an ideal candidate, but neither was Romney. However, it’s quite all right for the squishes to play Fifth Columnists against the likes of O’Donnell, but you get all butthurt when allegedly transcendentally electable squishes like Romney are given the same treatment by us. Get it now?

ddrintn on August 5, 2014 at 6:59 PM

No, the Ship is the United States. That’s what you are proposing that we let burn when we hand power to people like Barack Obama, Harry Reid, Valerie Jarrett. That’s who you are empowering, supposedly out of conservative principles.

V7_Sport on August 4, 2014 at 10:00 PM

So how has Boehner been substantially different?

ddrintn on August 5, 2014 at 7:05 PM

“We”! Did the other Wolverines nominate you as their spokesman? You aren’t for your nation, if you were you would be fighting to restore it, not rationalizing letting it burn, you are for putting on a display of your superiority and you have rationalized capitulation as courage. It isn’t. You are a bunch of adolescent children who are helping the socialists make a huge mess that real men are going to have to clean up.

V7_Sport on August 4, 2014 at 9:02 PM

In the midst of your grandstanding and ranting, you failed to make the case that electing the GOP will “restore” America. That is the poisonous logical flaw in all your ‘arguments.’ You tell yourself a story without actually listening to it.

If you want to have a discussion about how effective or feckless the GOP has been, let’s do that. But try doing that without hurling the insults and I’ll be impressed.

fossten on August 5, 2014 at 7:19 PM

I guess I should be relieved that we didn’t insist on a bankrupt witch with an 85 IQ who thought masturbation would be a good campaign issue.

She didn’t. Butthurt squishes did, though.

V7_Sport on August 4, 2014 at 10:00 PM

Far, far more GOPe candidates/incumbents have lost in the last two elections than Tea Partiers. Again, logic and facts are not your friends.

fossten on August 5, 2014 at 7:21 PM

ddrintn on August 5, 2014 at 6:59 PM

It was you in the Squish Wing who did the oppo research on O’Donnell. Coons didn’t have to spend a dime.

She. Wasn’t. Qualified.
She shouldn’t have been run as dog catcher. She was an idiot as was anyone who pushed for her nomination. The seat went from safe GOP to Safe DEM over night in the Real clear politics average. It was stupid beyond belief. Why can’t you learn from that?

However, it’s quite all right for the squishes to play Fifth Columnists against the likes of O’Donnell, but you get all butthurt when allegedly transcendentally electable squishes like Romney are given the same treatment by us.

The difference is that Romney WAS qualified, he was a governor of a state and the son of a governor. He ran a successful business and was not a frigging warlock.

So how has Boehner been substantially different?

We wouldn’t have doubled the debt for starters. We wouldn’t have socialized medicine. God, if you can’t admit that there is a STARK difference between the catastrophic mess that the democrats have made over the past 6 years and anything else within memory there is seriously something wrong with you.

V7_Sport on August 6, 2014 at 12:40 AM

fossten on August 5, 2014 at 7:19 PM

In the midst of your grandstanding and ranting, you failed to make the case that electing the GOP will “restore” America.

I haven’t tried. When the ship is sinking the first order of business is to stop taking on water, not to lay out the re-fit.

If you want to have a discussion about how effective or feckless the GOP has been, let’s do that. But try doing that without hurling the insults and I’ll be impressed.

I respond in kind.
I think what is most beneficial is to move forward, to elect the most conservative representatives we can get and then work to hold them accountable. We havn’t done that. We send them to DC and let them go wild and that’s no ones fault but ours.

Far, far more GOPe candidates/incumbents have lost in the last two elections than Tea Partiers.

LOL, are you quite sure about that? The only tea party pick up I can think of is Brat.

Again, logic and facts are not your friends.

That’s kind of a land speed record for contradicting yourself on the “hurling the insults” thing… I think I’ll be OK though.

V7_Sport on August 6, 2014 at 12:49 AM

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V7_Sport says:

Gov. Mitt Romney WAS qualified, he was a governor
of a state and the son of a governor.

He ran a successful business and
was not a frigging warlock.

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Perspicacious comments (8-2014):

Romney is better than any candidate out there.
America royally screwed up last election,
not only for how BAD Obama is,
but for how GOOD Romney is.

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Ann Romney Introspection on the 2012 election:
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I believe this, I really believe this:
You know, we lost, but truly the country lost
by not having Mitt as president.

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The Clinton–era ROOTs of the FINANCIAL CRISIS

http://www.aei.org/article/economics/the-clinton-era-roots-of-the-financial-crisis/


Wall Street built a DOOMSDAY MACHINE
Turning Garbage into GOLD

http://upstart.bizjournals.com/news-markets/national-news/portfolio/2008/11/11/The-End-of-Wall-Streets-Boom.html?page=all

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Another FINANCIAL MELTDOWN on the horizon?
And You thought the Last MELTDOWN was Brutal …

http://theHill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/finance/211012-another-financial-meltdown-on-the-horizon
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The Fed PAY considerable amounts
of INTEREST to commercial banks to DISCOURAGE
them from making private sector LOANS.
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WARNING that near-zero interest rates may be
FUELING asset BUBBLES while diverting FUNDS
away from PRODUCTIVE long-term INVESTMENT

http://www.nysun.com/national/what-if-janet-yellen-is-wrong/88784/
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The Fed’s Failure Complicates Its Endgame

http://www.ZeroHEDGE.com/news/2014-07-30/feds-failure-complicates-its-endgame
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Wall Street’s DELUSION
http://www.CBSNews.com/2102-18560_162-6292458.html

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Global HAWK on August 6, 2014 at 2:45 AM

Who are these Romney supporters?

Wait, sorry I asked.

Karl Rove.

Sherman1864 on August 6, 2014 at 11:37 AM

We wouldn’t have doubled the debt for starters.

V7_Sport

WRONG, See George W Bush.

The country is out of control because of the BIG GOVERNMENT GOP who spends money recklessly, never cuts anything, and cares nothing about the debt.

The gopE are Democrats. You are in denial. You are part of the problem. You vote for more Big Government and keep creating a bigger problem.

You are a dinosaur. Constitutional conservatives are never going away.

The GOP is dead. You keep voting for your corruption. You will still lose.

The corrupt age of Bush is O.V.E.R. Get a helmet. It must hurt batting your head against the wall.

Your insanity is breathtaking.

Jayrae on August 6, 2014 at 1:44 PM

Maybe we can look forward to Romneycare 3.0 after Romneycare 1.0 and Romneycare 2.0 (aka Obamacare).

Viator on August 6, 2014 at 3:44 PM

Jayrae on August 6, 2014 at 1:44 PM

WRONG, See George W Bush.

1) George Bush and Mitt Romney are 2 different people. It’s not a conspiracy among the reptilian shape shifters… they are actually different people who think and do different things and occupy different spaces. Say that out loud until you understand it.
2) Bush didn’t double the debt.
3)Bush had a 2 front war dropped in his lap by islamist terrorists that cost money to fight.

The country is out of control because of the BIG GOVERNMENT GOP who spends money recklessly, never cuts anything, and cares nothing about the debt.

The GOP hasn’t had budget authority since Reid became majority leader, since then we havn’t had a budget and the debt has skyrocketed.

The gopE are Democrats. You are in denial. You are part of the problem. You vote for more Big Government and keep creating a bigger problem.

You are a nut.

You are a dinosaur.

You are still a nut.

Constitutional conservatives are never going away.

Good, I’m one of them, you aren’t, you are a nut.

The GOP is dead.

Do the people at the group home know you got access to the floor computer?

You keep voting for your corruption.

Jesus still isn’t on the ballot.

You will still lose.

Can’t get worse than what you have helped bring us with Obama.

The corrupt age of Bush is O.V.E.R.

Glad you are finally getting the newspapers from 2008.

Get a helmet.

I don’t need one, I don’t involuntarily hit myself in the head and say “yaaaaaay”

It must hurt batting your head against the wall.

Is that why your cell is padded?

Your insanity is breathtaking.

Projection.

V7_Sport on August 6, 2014 at 7:24 PM

No…No…and more No. Dole…McCain…Romney…no more. This man will never be supported by Conservatives.

Carolynr on August 5, 2014 at 11:30 AM

.
AH Yes – I gets the last word……
Americans love Demmie Presidents- if Willie could have kept it in his pants- Ghore would have been part of 7 straight Demmie election wins.
You can moan about the R candidates all you want – but– America is NOW a left of center country as far as POTUS elections are concerned.
(and has the media to prove it)
Baby boomers dying off and minorities filling their voting spot mean only ONE thing for our side.
.
Stop trying to fool yourself into thinking the situation is any different from what it really is.

FlaMurph on August 7, 2014 at 5:11 PM

Romney is the only one who could fix the mess left by both Bush and Obama, but that matters not,

Because once again he will be beat by the people who agree with him on everything. But hate Romney for personal reasons having nothing to do with politics.

If he could just be the candidate I’d be happy, but I do no want to go through another Primary.

I’d almost rather give the country to Putin or Hamas than go through that again.

petunia on August 7, 2014 at 6:05 PM

Putin or Hamas, because the result is the same, no matter who else is President, but it hurts less coming from an actual enemy, not the people who should want good things for America…

I hate being beat by people who say they love the country, but do everything possible to kill it.

petunia on August 7, 2014 at 6:08 PM

So how has Boehner been substantially different?

We wouldn’t have doubled the debt for starters. We wouldn’t have socialized medicine. God, if you can’t admit that there is a STARK difference between the catastrophic mess that the democrats have made over the past 6 years and anything else within memory there is seriously something wrong with you.

V7_Sport on August 6, 2014 at 12:40 AM

Since January 2011, Sport.

The difference is that Romney WAS qualified, he was a governor of a state and the son of a governor. He ran a successful business and was not a frigging warlock.

V7_Sport on August 6, 2014 at 12:40 AM

“Qualified” is in the eye of the beholder. And “son of a governor” was one of his qualifications? LOL

Romney is the only one who could fix the mess left by both Bush and Obama, but that matters not,

petunia on August 7, 2014 at 6:05 PM

“Save us, Superman!” LOL The “only one” my ass. Romney would’ve been nothing more than another guardian of the Welfare State.

ddrintn on August 7, 2014 at 6:08 PM

She. Wasn’t. Qualified.
She shouldn’t have been run as dog catcher. She was an idiot as was anyone who pushed for her nomination. The seat went from safe GOP to Safe DEM over night in the Real clear politics average. It was stupid beyond belief. Why can’t you learn from that?

V7_Sport on August 6, 2014 at 12:40 AM

Ditto Mitt. He’s not an idiot in a general sense at all, but politically he’s a friggin’ moron. And nominating him was absoLUTELY idiotic. But we were told to suck it up and support him anyway and pointing out that he was a sure loser was complete heresy and evidence that one was an O-bot. And we’re about to get the same song-and-dance from the GOP rah-rah club. Why can’t you learn from THAT?

ddrintn on August 7, 2014 at 6:13 PM

You can moan about the R candidates all you want – but– America is NOW a left of center country as far as POTUS elections are concerned.

FlaMurph on August 7, 2014 at 5:11 PM

Heh…put any kind of squishy crappy candidate on the ballot in the belief that “Hey, Ham Sandwich could win!!!” and then when that squishy crappy candidate loses it’s because we’re suddenly a “left of center country”. Gotta love that self-validating analysis.

ddrintn on August 7, 2014 at 6:16 PM

Far, far more GOPe candidates/incumbents have lost in the last two elections than Tea Partiers.

LOL, are you quite sure about that? The only tea party pick up I can think of is Brat.

V7_Sport on August 6, 2014 at 12:49 AM

Rand Paul, Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz, Nikki Haley, Scott Walker vs Tommy Thompson, Dino Rossi, Meg Whitman, Carly Fiorina. Surely you aren’t that friggin’ ignorant.

ddrintn on August 7, 2014 at 6:20 PM

ddrintn

Since January 2011, Sport.

Since Thursday, since the battle of Hastings, since 2 seconds ago… What’s wrong with you? The Obama administration has been a disaster. Got that Rain Man? A grilled cheese sandwich could do a better job.

“Qualified” is in the eye of the beholder. And “son of a governor” was one of his qualifications? LOL

Great rebuttal. A CEO of a Fortune 400 company, a successful governor, a turnaround expert.. versus an affirmative action promoted community organizer with no executive experience and a lack luster term in the Senate. By any metric with any sensible beholder…

Ditto Mitt. He’s not an idiot in a general sense at all, but politically he’s a friggin’ moron. And nominating him was absoLUTELY idiotic.

Because what we need is a politician, not a capable governor… Well you got your politician. Words and words and words all of which signify nothing. No character, no substance, an empty suit, just like I told you back then.

But we were told to suck it up and support him anyway and pointing out that he was a sure loser was complete heresy and evidence that one was an O-bot.

Everyone else quit the primaries. He defeated everyone else. You were supposed to suck up your butthurt and not be a sore loser and do what’s best for the USA.

And we’re about to get the same song-and-dance from the GOP rah-rah club. Why can’t you learn from THAT?

I think the lesson they learned is that you are erratic and can’t be counted on. If you show up great, if not, oh well. The party will have to go after moderates, even if that means that it will get pulled left which is a shame.

Rand Paul, Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz, Nikki Haley, Scott Walker vs Tommy Thompson, Dino Rossi, Meg Whitman, Carly Fiorina. Surely you aren’t that friggin’ ignorant.

What about the primaries?
“Scott Walker vs Tommy Thompson”.. Scott walker gets called a RINO here constantly as does Rubio.
“Carly Fiorina” got elected to something?
“Meg Whitman” got elected to something?
Did “Dino Rossi” win a national election?
Are you kidding me?

V7_Sport on August 7, 2014 at 8:50 PM

ddrintn

Since January 2011, Sport.

Since Thursday, since the battle of Hastings, since 2 seconds ago… What’s wrong with you? The Obama administration has been a disaster. Got that Rain Man? A grilled cheese sandwich could do a better job.

Boehner has been Speaker since 2011. Tell me how he’s been a conservative world-beater, champ.

“Qualified” is in the eye of the beholder. And “son of a governor” was one of his qualifications? LOL

Great rebuttal. A CEO of a Fortune 400 company, a successful governor, a turnaround expert.. versus an affirmative action promoted community organizer with no executive experience and a lack luster term in the Senate. By any metric with any sensible beholder…

“Turnaround expert” in business means exactly SQUAT when it comes to qualifications as president. Heck, Warren Buffett’s even more qualified in that case.

Ditto Mitt. He’s not an idiot in a general sense at all, but politically he’s a friggin’ moron. And nominating him was absoLUTELY idiotic.

Because what we need is a politician, not a capable governor… Well you got your politician. Words and words and words all of which signify nothing. No character, no substance, an empty suit, just like I told you back then.

Wait…are you describing Mitt? He’s a wannabe politician. The only reason he’s not the “career politician” he derides is because he spent about 2 decades losing elections because he has the political instincts of a jellyfish.

But we were told to suck it up and support him anyway and pointing out that he was a sure loser was complete heresy and evidence that one was an O-bot.

Everyone else quit the primaries. He defeated everyone else. You were supposed to suck up your butthurt and not be a sore loser and do what’s best for the USA.

And O’Donnell beat Mike Castle. SO WHAT?

And we’re about to get the same song-and-dance from the GOP rah-rah club. Why can’t you learn from THAT?

I think the lesson they learned is that you are erratic and can’t be counted on. If you show up great, if not, oh well. The party will have to go after moderates, even if that means that it will get pulled left which is a shame.

‘”Erratic” must mean “principled”. Thanks. And good luck with those moderates. They voted to the tune of just ab out 60% for O last time, even when you had Mr Electable running.

Rand Paul, Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz, Nikki Haley, Scott Walker vs Tommy Thompson, Dino Rossi, Meg Whitman, Carly Fiorina. Surely you aren’t that friggin’ ignorant.

What about the primaries?
“Scott Walker vs Tommy Thompson”.. Scott walker gets called a RINO here constantly as does Rubio.
“Carly Fiorina” got elected to something?
“Meg Whitman” got elected to something?
Did “Dino Rossi” win a national election?
Are you kidding me?

V7_Sport on August 7, 2014 at 8:50 PM

You get caught talking out of your ass, and then deflect. Nice try. No. The point is that TP faves like Walker and Rubio and Haley and Cruz WON, ya dolt, while the moderates listed LOST. Get it? Or shall I repeat the original statement to you? Here it is:

Far, far more GOPe candidates/incumbents have lost in the last two elections than Tea Partiers.

LOL, are you quite sure about that? The only tea party pick up I can think of is Brat.

Again, logic and facts are not your friends.

That’s kind of a land speed record for contradicting yourself on the “hurling the insults” thing… I think I’ll be OK though.

V7_Sport on August 6, 2014 at 12:49 AM

There’s nothing there about “national elections”, Sport.

ddrintn on August 7, 2014 at 9:21 PM

Boehner has been Speaker since 2011. Tell me how he’s been a conservative world-beater, champ.

I have told you. He has, with a slim majority in 1/2 of 1/3rd of the government has stopped the Obama agenda from legally being implemented. What Obama has gotten through: Obamacare, was done when they had the veto proof majority. No cap and trade, no amnesty, on and on.. The out of control spending is because we don’t have a budget and that’s because Harry reid is in charge of the senate.

“Turnaround expert” in business means exactly SQUAT when it comes to qualifications as president.

It’s funny how you can make these ridicules statements as if they had any correspondence with reality. Try all caps to lend such an obviously bone-headed comment some weight. Maybe a string of exclamation points.

Heck, Warren Buffett’s even more qualified in that case.

He’s not a turn around expert. He’s an investor. And yes, Buffet would have been more qualified than Obama.

Wait…are you describing Mitt? He’s a wannabe politician.

You are 12, aren’t you? I’m corresponding with a 12 year old.

The only reason he’s not the “career politician” he derides is because he spent about 2 decades losing elections because he has the political instincts of a jellyfish.

Your hate for this guy is beyond all reason. Your judgment is obviously skewed.

And O’Donnell beat Mike Castle. SO WHAT?

The RealClear politics average didn’t switch form “Safe GOP to SAFE DEM overnight when Mitt won the primaries. If you think the 2 are equivalent there is something seriously wrong with you.

‘”Erratic” must mean “principled” Thanks.

Go buy a dictionary.

They voted to the tune of just ab out 60% for O last time, even when you had Mr Electable running.

Romney won among Independents by 5 points, 50-45,

You get caught talking out of your ass, and then deflect.

Ummm, no, The tea party hasn’t had much success this time around and the previous election

Nice try. No. The point is that TP faves like Walker and Rubio and Haley and Cruz WON,

In this election cycle (primaries) and the previous… how have the tea party done? Brat is the only one so far to knock off an establishment candidate, they might get Alexander tonight, which wouldn’t be any great loss. 2012 was mixed, and 2019 was a national restraining order against Obama.

V7_Sport on August 7, 2014 at 10:34 PM

*2010 was a national restraining order against Obama.

V7_Sport on August 8, 2014 at 12:15 AM

They voted to the tune of just ab out 60% for O last time, even when you had Mr Electable running.

Romney won among Independents by 5 points, 50-45,

V7_Sport on August 7, 2014 at 10:34 PM

“Independents” and “moderates” are not the same thing. This just ain’t your bag.

ddrintn on August 8, 2014 at 7:00 PM

This just ain’t your bag.

Yours is douche.

V7_Sport on August 8, 2014 at 10:12 PM

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