Quotes of the day

posted at 8:31 pm on August 2, 2014 by Allahpundit

“The IDF has neutralized many terror tunnels that took years for Hamas to build,” Netanyahu said at the start of his address. “The IDF has had many achievements and successes since the beginning of the operation, hitting thousands of targets, including command center, arms factories, and terrorists.”

“This is a complicated mission, in an urban area, with contact with civilian population,” He said. “I am proud of our soldiers who are doing an extraordinary job,” he encouraged the military troops…

“We have nothing against the citizens of Gaza that have nothing to do with terrorism,” he said, adding that The army will continue to operate until the mission is completed – to restore the security and quiet to the citizens of Israel.

“The IDF will continue its mission according to Israel’s security needs, and only according to them,” he concluded.

***

An Israeli Cabinet minister says there is “no point” in trying to reach a Gaza truce with Hamas and that Israel won’t send a delegation to planned cease-fire talks in Cairo.

The minister, Yuval Steinitz, spoke Saturday on Israel’s Channel 10 television station.

His comments suggests that Israel plans to end the current round of fighting with Hamas on its own terms, rather than getting entangled in indirect negotiations with Gaza’s Hamas rulers.

***

“This is unprecedented in the history of the Arab-Israeli conflict,” says CNN’s Ali Younes, an analyst who has covered the region for decades. “Most Arab states are actively supporting Israel against the Palestinians — and not even shy about it or doing it discreetly.”

It’s a “joint Arab-Israeli war consisting of Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia against other Arabs — the Palestinians as represented by Hamas.”…

“The Israel-Hamas conflict has laid bare the new divides of the Middle East,” says Danielle Pletka, vice president of foreign and defense policy studies at the American Enterprise Institute. “It’s no longer the Muslims against the Jews. Now it’s the extremists — the Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas, Hezbollah, and their backers Iran, Qatar and Turkey — against Israel and the more moderate Muslims including Jordan, Egypt, and Saudi Arabia.”

“It’s a proxy war for control or dominance in the Middle East,” says CNN’s Fareed Zakaria.

***

The abduction of an Israeli soldier would provide Hamas with a tactical achievement that could strengthen its bargaining position. But it would have come at a cost: it placed Hamas on the defensive for violating a U.N.-backed cease-fire that offered Gazans their first greatest hope of relief in the 26-day long war. It also relieved political pressure on Israel, which was sharply criticized by the U.N. and the White House following reports that it shelled a U.N. shelter in Gaza on Wednesday, killing more than 16 civilians…

But if the Palestinians have him, his capture could take the two sides down one of two sharply different paths. Kidnapped soldiers have tremendous emotional resonance in Israel, who a few years ago swapped 1,000 Palestinians for a single missing soldier, Gilad Shalit. Hamas would expect Israel to make far-reaching concessions this time around as well. But with the Israeli public strongly supporting Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s tough approach to the confrontation, the capture could also lead to Israel intensifying its military campaign in an effort to find and rescue the missing soldier. That could further escalate the already bloody conflict, which has killed more than 1,400 Palestinians, many of whom were civilians, and 60 Israelis, mostly soldiers.

***

a) The compact between the Israeli army and Israeli parents is simple: You give us your sons, and we will do whatever we can to keep them alive. This includes conducting operations that get other soldiers killed. There will be near-unanimity in Israel that this soldier should be rescued, regardless of price to Israel, or certainly to the Palestinians in Gaza.

b) There is near-unanimity in Israel already that Hamas represents an unbearable threat. Add in the perfidy of a raid conducted after a ceasefire went into effect and near-unanimity becomes total unanimity…

c) For Israelis who are immune, unlike Amos Oz, to the criticism of outsiders, the world’s inability, or unwillingness, to understand the Hamas threat in the way that Oz (and most everyone else in Israel) understands it suggests that there is nothing Israel can do, short of national suicide, to stop the condemnation of their country. Which, of course, frees Israel, in their minds, to take whatever action it deems necessary to take. In other words, don’t be overly surprised by news later today of a massive Israeli army reserve call-up.

***

Three. That is the number of times Israel has fought Hamas since 2007, when the terror group seized control of the Gaza Strip. There was Operation Cast Lead in 2008, Operation Pillar of Defense in 2012, and now Operation Protective Edge in 2014. In all three cases the story has been the same: Israel is attacked; Israel responds; Israel is condemned; Israel ceases fire. Hamas is weakened. Hamas recovers. The rockets return. Rewind and repeat…

Collapse the tunnels or collapse Hamas. Lives will be lost either way. The difference is in the end state. Leave Hamas in charge, and you guarantee the war will resume, and more lives will be lost. Topple Hamas, and you remove the source of the conflict, the first cause of the death and destruction. Lives will be saved over time. Want an example? Casualties spiked during the Iraq surge in 2007. Then both American and civilian casualties plummeted. They remained low for years—until America withdrew…

Yes, there would be costs to regime change in the Gaza Strip. But the choice is not between a costly policy and a cost-free one. The choice is between the costs of removing a terrorist group from power and the costs of leaving it injured but able to fight another day. To prevent a fourth war, to bolster ties with the Sunni powers, to improve the chances of a two-state solution, to help the Palestinians, above all to secure Israel, the decision is clear. Destroy Hamas. End the war. Free Gaza.

***

Those who claim there is only a political solution to the problem fail to understand that in the absence of a military solution it won’t be possible. Until something happens that will eliminate the Palestinian force that is determined to keep the conflict red-hot and is prepared to sacrifice their own people in order to advance that objective, there is no point to those who criticize Israel for not creating a Palestinian state. Though it has been blockaded by Israel, Egypt, and the international community since the 2007 coup that brought Hamas to power there, Gaza has functioned as an independent state for all intents and purposes since then. Its government’s sole objective has been to fight Israel, pouring its scarce resources into rockets, tunnels, and other military expenses while—despite Hamas’s reputation as a “social welfare organization”—doing virtually nothing to better the lives of its people. So long as it is allowed to stay in power that won’t change and, no matter how many cease-fires or negotiations John Kerry sponsors, peace will never happen.

Pressing on in Gaza will be costly and will be brutally criticized by the international press, the U.N., celebrities on Twitter, and every other conceivable venue. No one should think that Hamas’s duplicity and belligerence—amply demonstrated by today’s brutal cease-fire violation—will create much backing for an Israeli effort to finish the job in Gaza. But finish it they must or be faced with the necessity of starting over at some point in the near future. Despite publicized fears of something worse following this genocidal group, that is a myth. Anyone who really cares about the people of Gaza or peace should realize that and sit back and let Israel end the Hamas nightmare once and for all.

***

Failure is the price of sovereignty. Statehood means making hard and often agonizing choices—whether to attack Hamas in Palestinian neighborhoods, for example, or to suffer rocket strikes on our own territory. It requires reconciling our desire to be enlightened with our longing to remain alive. Most onerously, sovereignty involves assuming responsibility. Zionism, in my definition, means Jewish responsibility. It means taking responsibility for our infrastructure, our defense, our society and the soul of our state. It is easy to claim responsibility for victories; setbacks are far harder to embrace.

But that is precisely the lure of Zionism. Growing up in America, I felt grateful to be born in a time when Jews could assume sovereign responsibilities. Statehood is messy, but I regarded that mess as a blessing denied to my forefathers for 2,000 years. I still feel privileged today, even as Israel grapples with circumstances that are at once perilous, painful and unjust. Fighting terrorists who shoot at us from behind their own children, our children in uniform continue to be killed and wounded while much of the world brands them as war criminals.

Zionism, nevertheless, will prevail. Deriving its energy from a people that refuses to disappear and its ethos from historically tested ideas, the Zionist project will thrive. We will be vilified, we will find ourselves increasingly alone, but we will defend the homes that Zionism inspired us to build.

***

Via Mediaite.


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tell us how it ends man…

going2mars on August 3, 2014 at 1:52 AM

You die.
We die.
They die.

Schadenfreude on August 3, 2014 at 1:53 AM

While I understand your outrage, TXUS, the diseases and other stuff (like parasites) the illegals are being allowed to bring into our country is about 95% PREVENTABLE. By following our laws and enacted (but rarely implemented) border security fences and other protocols, much of the misery about to be unleashed in our country is PREVENTABLE.

Newtie and the Beauty on August 3, 2014 at 1:26 AM

The no-good bastard doesn’t recognize or want to follow our laws or provide border security, and thus welcomes these illegals and their infectious diseases, not to mention Ebola by this unprecedented decision to bring a non-curable disease to our shores.

Remember, he’s into Cloward and Piven, and Alinsky. Chaos and crisis creates opportunity for full control or, as we might call it, tyranny.

TXUS on August 3, 2014 at 1:53 AM

Doc Holliday on August 3

if I don’t sleep tonight its your fault..
tell us how it ends man…
6 months,, a year,,, two..
best case.. worst case….

going2mars on August 3, 2014 at 1:52 AM

Sorry G2M, didn’t mean to scare you. It would end quickly because it is a fast acting disease. But it would be ugly for those involved.

Doc Holliday on August 3, 2014 at 1:54 AM

Drudge links to this article: Signs Posted For Illegals Increasingly Written In Chinese

Chinese?

I’m thinking this doesn’t make sense.

Then I see the subhead for the article: Illegals from China and over 70% of the world’s nations are flooding into America as its border collapses.

China! There’s 1.37 billion people in China, more than four times our population. And the rest of the world’s got like 7000 million people, people. Without effective borders we will just disappear as a country as the rest of the world like vultures swamp over this nation.
——— ——— ——— ———- —- ——- —- —- ——- ——- ——— ———- —
Drudge also is linking to: Ready to rumble: Activists to raid congressional town hall meetings to fight immigration

That will be great to see how this month’s town hall immigration protests compares to the Obamacare town hall protests of August 2009.

Vote Carr, not Lamar!

anotherJoe on August 3, 2014 at 1:55 AM

Cheers, indeed…Ebola, destruction of all which is good…

Still, honey badger and schadenfreude. Such stupid people deserve NO less.

Schadenfreude on August 3, 2014 at 1:55 AM

TXUS on August 3, 2014 at 1:53 AM

That’s probably what he meant about “fundamentally transforming” the nation.

cat_owner on August 3, 2014 at 1:56 AM

We. Are. So. Screwed…

OmahaConservative on August 3, 2014 at 1:56 AM

Vote Carr, not Lamar!

anotherJoe on August 3, 2014 at 1:55 AM

Excellent!

Schadenfreude on August 3, 2014 at 1:57 AM

oscarwilde on August 3, 2014 at 1:41 AM

you need to find out where that work is going on,,
and dive on in the pool..
this is so far outside the ‘normal box’,,
they just might hire a mind like yours… :)

going2mars on August 3, 2014 at 1:57 AM

I have met very few Engineer’s whose mind retained enough plasticity to go beyond a theoretical grasp of quantum Mechanics. It isn’t that you guys are intelligent enough, it’s just that Quantum Mechanic’s is so counter intuitive classical physics.

Tell a Engineer that every cubic centimeter of pure vacuum contains 1 x 10^2334 GeV and they will without exception tell you that you cannot conduct electricity out of vacuum.

oscarwilde on August 3, 2014 at 1:26 AM

….Okay – you have personal prejudices….thanks for sharing them…….consider checking them at the door before waving them around….

My Major in College was Physics for the first Year and a Half……until I switched to Nuc E……..I continued to take electives in Physics – and I knew Dr. Park and the rest of the Physics Staff well – including some Emeritus Profs, like Clyde Cowan…..you might remember him – he discovered a little thing called “the neutrino”……

My father also went to school there and helped build the world’s first Standard Cloud Chamber – for studying Cloud Physics………

williamg on August 3, 2014 at 1:58 AM

Drudge also is linking to: Ready to rumble: Activists to raid congressional town hall meetings to fight immigration
That will be great to see how this month’s town hall immigration protests compares to the Obamacare town hall protests of August 2009.

anotherJoe on August 3, 2014 at 1:55 AM

The above article refers to NumbersUSA, an anti-illegal immigration group–and it should prove eye-opening indeed ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on August 3, 2014 at 1:59 AM

anotherJoe on August 3, 2014 at 1:55 AM

I don’t remember where I read this, it may have been Breitbart but not sure.

In any case, the article said that not all of the illegals invading from Mexico are Central Americans. They included other nations, such as China, Thailand, etc.

I wonder how they get to Mexico in the first place, but I guess it’s true.

cat_owner on August 3, 2014 at 2:00 AM

williamg on August 3, 2014 at 1:58 AM

Hey, didja’ see upstream where I corrected your GAMBIT to gamut?

OmahaConservative on August 3, 2014 at 2:02 AM

Ebola Only A Plane Ride Away From USA

I came back to post this in the interest of disseminating sound information regarding what is known of this disease that has been released to the public and the potential for an epidemic.

If you scroll down you will find three links that are very illuminating, as is the entire article.

thatsafactjack on August 3, 2014 at 2:02 AM

Police – Don’t Stand So Close To Me

And on that note, I bid Friends and Lurkers niters and sleep well!

Those with bar keys, y’all know what to do… ;-)

[sends out a round of Whatchudrinkin's...usual caveats apply...enters under "Bartender's Nightcap Special"...]

Newtie and the Beauty on August 3, 2014 at 2:03 AM

Doc Holliday on August 3, 2014 at 1:54 AM

I am with you on the Africa part
where the disease kills faster than it can find new victims..
but
wouldn’t a major cities population be a huge magnifier??

and …
what about all the “children” coming north bringing whatever..
Barry is casting em to the four corners,,, and fast…
can we also contain all that??

going2mars on August 3, 2014 at 2:03 AM

History tells us the “six-year itch” is a very real thing, and there’s little Obama’s Democrats can do to stave off a big loss this November.

Time has been cruel to many once-revered political assertions. No, all politics is not local. No, the road to the White House does not lead through New Hampshire. The “solid South” hasn’t been a solid Democratic redoubt since 1944; “rock ribbed Republican” New England has yielded a grand total of four electoral votes for the GOP in the last six Presidential elections.

Schadenfreude on August 3, 2014 at 2:04 AM

Hey, didja’ see upstream where I corrected your GAMBIT to gamut?
OmahaConservative on August 3, 2014 at 2:02 AM

I’m guessing the gamut IS the gambit, so I would consider both to be correct ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on August 3, 2014 at 2:04 AM

Ok, guys and gals…what are you more fearful of: the Ebola patients in the US or The Lord only knows what diseases entering the US through our southern border?

anuts on August 3, 2014 at 2:05 AM

going2mars on August 3, 2014 at 2:03 AM

Not to mention the bedbugs and other crap we had already wiped out here in America? We need to bring DDT and other stuff back…

OmahaConservative on August 3, 2014 at 2:06 AM

Ok, guys and gals…what are you more fearful of: the Ebola patients in the US or The Lord only knows what diseases entering the US through our southern border?

anuts on August 3, 2014 at 2:05 AM

Hows about all of the above…

OmahaConservative on August 3, 2014 at 2:07 AM

sleep well NatB…thanks for the key…cheers..

going2mars on August 3, 2014 at 2:08 AM

Nite Newtie. {{{hugs}}}

31giddyup on August 3, 2014 at 2:08 AM

OmahaConservative on August 3, 2014 at 2:07 AM

Which is scarier though? I think I have to go with the border. Known vs unknown…

anuts on August 3, 2014 at 2:09 AM

…..”Gambit”…….”GAMBIT“, Tool!!

williamg on August 3, 2014 at 1:19 AM

No, it is gamut…

OmahaConservative on August 3, 2014 at 1:23 AM

..No – actually, it’s EITHER:

1.Full Gambit

GAMBIT:
1. Chess. an opening in which a player seeks to obtain some advantage by sacrificing a pawn or piece.
2. any maneuver by which one seeks to gain an advantage.

FULL GAMBIT:

1.To ‘Run a full gambit’ on another person is to attack in a barbarous mannor. It means that your going to launch a complete onslaught of tactical attacks meant to wear down your opponent & win at all cost. Even if it means sacrificing your friends and losing the respect of all those around you.
1. “Listen, you can sit over there & make comments & run your mouth all you want, but don’t get it twisted b***h. If we were to go outside & lock horns right now…. – I’d run a full gambit on your a**.”

OR:

gam·ut noun \ˈga-mət\
: a range or series of related things

Full Definition of GAMUT

1
: the whole series of recognized musical notes
2
: an entire range or series
See gamut defined for English-language learners »
See gamut defined for kids »

They’re BOTH appropriate……..Nit-Picker….

williamg on August 3, 2014 at 2:10 AM

anuts on August 3, 2014 at 2:05 AM

I would go with the southern border..
way more of them..
dispersed to many states..
thrust into open society…

going2mars on August 3, 2014 at 2:11 AM

Doc Holliday on August 3, 2014 at 1:54 AM

I am with you on the Africa part
where the disease kills faster than it can find new victims..
but
wouldn’t a major cities population be a huge magnifier??

and …
what about all the “children” coming north bringing whatever..
Barry is casting em to the four corners,,, and fast…
can we also contain all that??

going2mars on August 3, 2014 at 2:03 AM

the only things I would be really concerned with are TB, if it’s the drug resistant kind. And also measles, which some people don’t have the best immunity too. The infestation crap is gross but treatable.
I don’t worry about H1N1 flus–the last one didn’t do much a year or two ago because there was an H1N1 in the 50′s, so the older people were already immune, and they have been given a booster by this more recent one, and the young people are also now immunized.
Yes, Ebola would be worse in a big city, but they would also have more resources to mobilize.

Doc Holliday on August 3, 2014 at 2:11 AM

Hey, didja’ see upstream where I corrected your GAMBIT to gamut?
OmahaConservative on August 3, 2014 at 2:02 AM

….didja see upstream where you’re “correction” was Wrong?

….I’m going to quote Bibi: “Never second-guess me again……”

williamg on August 3, 2014 at 2:12 AM

I wonder how they get to Mexico in the first place, but I guess it’s true.

cat_owner on August 3, 2014 at 2:00 AM

They can take a slow boat from China. Maybe get on one of those ships with a ton of truck like containers and bring some food and water and tp.

anotherJoe on August 3, 2014 at 2:13 AM

On Doc’s theory of bringing the Ebola stricken patients here, that bams may get credit (if there’s a serum to stop it)…. everything so far that the man touches gets fubared one way or another. I don’t get any comfort thinking this would be any different.

31giddyup on August 3, 2014 at 2:16 AM

We are getting an unexpected and much needed downpour right now. I am so stoked…
Thunder and lightning…

OmahaConservative on August 3, 2014 at 2:16 AM

Doc Holliday on August 3, 2014 at 2:11 AM

for that I owe ya a scotch… thank you..
how would you like it? neat.. ice.. dash of water?

and can we go with the,, no mutation part… and nothing airborne..

going2mars on August 3, 2014 at 2:17 AM

On Doc’s theory of bringing the Ebola stricken patients here, that bams may get credit (if there’s a serum to stop it)…. everything so far that the man touches gets fubared one way or another. I don’t get any comfort thinking this would be any different.

31giddyup on August 3, 2014 at 2:16 AM

yep, this is a guy with two left feet trying to win the dance contest. Fortunately he is not personally involved, and the people who are will be taking great care to try and keep this thing contained so that it doesn’t kill them.

Doc Holliday on August 3, 2014 at 2:18 AM

That’s probably what he meant about “fundamentally transforming” the nation.

cat_owner on August 3, 2014 at 1:56 AM

A young lady who works for me is engaged to an active Naval Special Warfare officer, i.e., a Navy SEAL, specifically a member of SEAL Team Six, which doesn’t exist, as I’m reminded.

Ever since Obama’s “fundamentally transforming” speech came to light, I’m told that the SEALs and other special forces are now using that as a euphemism for taking out a HVT (High Value Target) when assigned to do so. As in “we’re go and hot to FT the sumbitch”.

The reality for us is that Obama is “go and hot” to FT/take us out, and this country is his HVT.

TXUS on August 3, 2014 at 2:18 AM

Ok, guys and gals…what are you more fearful of: the Ebola patients in the US or The Lord only knows what diseases entering the US through our southern border?

anuts on August 3, 2014 at 2:05 AM

….this is what is called a “False Choice” in studies of Logic – and is epistemologically equivalent to the following question:

“Would you rather:

a. Slide down a razor blade naked, OR

b. Suck a Man’s nose until his head shrinks….”

……Neither…..

williamg on August 3, 2014 at 2:19 AM

Wow. This downpour is hellacious and so very welcome…

OmahaConservative on August 3, 2014 at 2:19 AM

That’s probably what he meant about “fundamentally transforming” the nation.

cat_owner on August 3, 2014 at 1:56 AM

A young lady who works for me is engaged to an active Naval Special Warfare officer, i.e., a Navy SEAL, specifically a member of SEAL Team Six, which doesn’t exist, as I’m reminded.

Ever since Obama’s “fundamentally transforming” speech came to light, I’m told that the SEALs and other special forces are now using that as a euphemism for taking out a HVT (High Value Target) when assigned to do so. As in “we’re go and hot to FT the sumb!tch”.

The reality for us is that Obama is “go and hot” to FT/take us out, and this country is his HVT.

TXUS on August 3, 2014 at 2:19 AM

anotherJoe on August 3, 2014 at 2:13 AM

That’s the most likely way. You are probably correct.

cat_owner on August 3, 2014 at 2:20 AM

World Health Organization: Ebola

A plethora of useful information here.

The USA Today links in the previous article I posted suggest certain time frames, etc., but it is a site that generalizes for the broader public’s benefit.

WHO is more precise and isn’t sanitized for public consumption, for instance, confirming the exact incubation period Schadenfreude linked above.

I’ve noticed a fairly wide spread in this regard in various news sources on the subject of this disease and its possible spread. Given this differentiation, I recommend anyone interested in the relevant facts to cross research in order to verify details between sites and articles.

thatsafactjack on August 3, 2014 at 2:21 AM

for that I owe ya a scotch… thank you..
how would you like it? neat.. ice.. dash of water?

and can we go with the,, no mutation part… and nothing airborne..

going2mars on August 3, 2014 at 2:17 AM

Save me one til tomorrow night. I’m going to hit the sack. G’night all!
901 days to go!

Doc Holliday on August 3, 2014 at 2:21 AM

OmahaConservative on August 3, 2014 at 2:16 AM

doesn’t look very big..
so get out there brother and enjoy..!!!!

going2mars on August 3, 2014 at 2:22 AM

OmahaConservative on August 3, 2014 at 2:19 AM

We sure need it here.

TXUS on August 3, 2014 at 2:19 AM

Yes, and things are quite scary now as we are finding out what he meant.

cat_owner on August 3, 2014 at 2:23 AM

williamg on August 3, 2014 at 2:19 AM

Well, of course we want neither. I’m merely asking which are you more fearful? If you choose one that in no means that you’re “cool” with the other.

anuts on August 3, 2014 at 2:24 AM

Doc Holliday on August 3, 2014 at 2:21 AM

900 days 22 hours 35 minutes and change…
but who’s counting…
thanks doc…sleep well..

going2mars on August 3, 2014 at 2:24 AM

*in no way means

anuts on August 3, 2014 at 2:25 AM

doesn’t look very big..
so get out there brother and enjoy..!!!!

going2mars on August 3, 2014 at 2:22 AM

Took my T-shirt and glasses off and threw my head back and had a nature shower already. It was splendid…

OmahaConservative on August 3, 2014 at 2:25 AM

Doc Holliday on August 3, 2014 at 2:21 AM

Good night Doc.

cat_owner on August 3, 2014 at 2:25 AM

anuts on August 3, 2014 at 2:24 AM

….it’s a “False Choice”…………..

williamg on August 3, 2014 at 2:26 AM

Wow. This downpour is hellacious and so very welcome…

OmahaConservative on August 3, 2014 at 2:19 AM

Send it this way OC. If not for California for me. Read comments about the fruits, nuts, and flakes here in California. I sure won’t argue that point, but remember their are strong conservative oaks still standing. ; )

31giddyup on August 3, 2014 at 2:26 AM

Send it this way OC. If not for California for me. Read comments about the fruits, nuts, and flakes here in California. I sure won’t argue that point, but remember their are strong conservative oaks still standing. ; )

31giddyup on August 3, 2014 at 2:26 AM

I know, darlin’
I lived in San Diego for thirty years…
I still have ties and love for dysfunctional CA…

OmahaConservative on August 3, 2014 at 2:29 AM

Took my T-shirt and glasses off and threw my head back and had a nature shower already. It was splendid…

OmahaConservative on August 3, 2014 at 2:25 AM

I trust there were no female SS agents present when you did so.

TXUS on August 3, 2014 at 2:31 AM

thatsafactjack on August 3, 2014 at 2:21 AM

evening ms J..
do you happen to know if there are other countries with sick
doctors bringing them home??
like a French doctor going back to France?
or are we the only ones exporting the sick?
also..
I posted a bit on a bike rider from that area
that they pulled out of the goodwill games (I think)
he took prelim test that were negative..
was he retested..??.. is he still sick?? .. did you hear any more on it?
the guy was a bike rider… they sweat and spit all the time..
he was surrounded by people in a athletes village..
this thing is one screw-up away from going sideways it sounds like..

going2mars on August 3, 2014 at 2:33 AM

It was splendid…

OmahaConservative on August 3, 2014 at 2:25 AM

Bully..!!!

going2mars on August 3, 2014 at 2:33 AM

Took my T-shirt and glasses off and threw my head back and had a nature shower already. It was splendid…

OmahaConservative on August 3, 2014 at 2:25 AM

I trust there were no female SS agents present when you did so.

TXUS on August 3, 2014 at 2:31 AM

I don’t GAF if there were. The Ol’ Lady is babysitting/housesitting this weekend. It keeps the godamn coons away…

OmahaConservative on August 3, 2014 at 2:35 AM

It’s actually not a false choice (which is another name for the false dilemma fallacy) because I’m not posing in a way that you can only accept one or the other in a situation where there are more choices between the two extremes.

There’s no fallacy in taking two situations and quantifying the comparison in terms of “x” value (in this case “x” is fear).

anuts on August 3, 2014 at 2:35 AM

you may get another shot..
as a smaller system is raining at west point now..

going2mars on August 3, 2014 at 2:35 AM

you may get another shot..
as a smaller system is raining at west point now..

going2mars on August 3, 2014 at 2:35 AM

Awesome. I may strip again and show the Latinas what a 59 year old gringo looks like in the raw…

OmahaConservative on August 3, 2014 at 2:38 AM

OmahaConservative on August 3, 2014 at 2:19 AM

Send it this way OC. If not for California for me. Read comments about the fruits, nuts, and flakes here in California. I sure won’t argue that point, but remember their are strong conservative oaks still standing. ; )

31giddyup on August 3, 2014 at 2:26 AM

It’s rained all day down here in SoCal…

oscarwilde on August 3, 2014 at 2:39 AM

It’s rained all day down here in SoCal…

oscarwilde on August 3, 2014 at 2:39 AM

IIRC, Rhonda is mid-state…

OmahaConservative on August 3, 2014 at 2:41 AM

It’s rained all day down here in SoCal…

oscarwilde on August 3, 2014 at 2:39 AM

I really miss the SoCal rain. It just keeps coming and coming, but no thunder and lightning…

OmahaConservative on August 3, 2014 at 2:43 AM

religion of peace goons selling Mary Kay door to door again..

Lebanese army battles gunmen at Syria border, 16 killed

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/03/us-syria-crisis-qalamoun-idUSKBN0G20EN20140803

going2mars on August 3, 2014 at 2:47 AM

It’s rained all day down here in SoCal…

oscarwilde on August 3, 2014 at 2:39 AM

Thank goodness. It’s been in the low 100′s here all week. Went to Pine Crest Lake in the higher elevations to escape it today. Due to the heat and being the last weekend before school starts, the west shoreline (where people were allowed) was packed with peeps inside and out of the water. We couldn’t find parking the mile between the shoreline and the main road. Went up the main road to Strawberry a mile away and found the South Fork Stanislaus river lower than I’ve ever seen it.
Hope your rain lasts a few days.

31giddyup on August 3, 2014 at 2:49 AM

OmahaConservative on August 3, 2014 at 2:38 AM

From keepin’ the coons away and showing the Latinas what a 59 year old white guy looks like in the raw, well, brother, you’ve given me an idea. Why don’t I send a jet to pick you up and fly you down to the border for a few days and then on to DC, for a visit to the White House? A win, win.

TXUS on August 3, 2014 at 2:49 AM

From keepin’ the coons away and showing the Latinas what a 59 year old white guy looks like in the raw, well, brother, you’ve given me an idea. Why don’t I send a jet to pick you up and fly you down to the border for a few days and then on to DC, for a visit to the White House? A win, win.

TXUS on August 3, 2014 at 2:49 AM

Nix on DC. From what I have read, 0bama lusts after older white guys…

OmahaConservative on August 3, 2014 at 2:53 AM

IIRC, Rhonda is mid-state…

OmahaConservative on August 3, 2014 at 2:41 AM

Correct OC, 90 miles due east of San Fran. Rolling hills of the Sierras.

31giddyup on August 3, 2014 at 2:54 AM

This thunderstorm is so great and refreshing. My garden and lawn are loving it. I love the thunder and lightning…

OmahaConservative on August 3, 2014 at 2:58 AM

going2mars on August 3, 2014 at 2:33 AM

Sorry, G2M, I just got back to the site. I’m working so I hadn’t checked in for awhile.

I know that there is a patient being sent to Germany for treatment, Infected Ebola Patient Sent To Germany For Treatment and the article says he may be one of the top Ebola specialists in the world, but it doesn’t say anything more about his nationality.

I know what there have been at least 100 Health Workers Stricken With Ebola and this has slowed and weakened efforts to contain the disease in Africa.

They need money and more people and equipment to fight this disease over there. They have to wear containment suits to work with the victims and in that heat and humidity they suffer from heat exhaustion pretty quickly. Despite those conditions some doctors and nurses are working flat out 20 hour shifts. They have no one to relieve them.

thatsafactjack on August 3, 2014 at 2:59 AM

31giddyup on August 3, 2014 at 2:54 AM

Good evening, Rhonda. :) I hope you’re well and that you get some rain. Perhaps over several weeks, so that it doesn’t cause flooding or mudslides, but just soaks in, cools, and replenishes. :)

thatsafactjack on August 3, 2014 at 3:02 AM

Hope your rain lasts a few days.

31giddyup on August 3, 2014 at 2:49 AM

Sigh… I had laundry hanging on the line when it started raining…

oscarwilde on August 3, 2014 at 3:02 AM

They have to wear containment suits to work with the victims and in that heat and humidity they suffer from heat exhaustion pretty quickly. Despite those conditions some doctors and nurses are working flat out 20 hour shifts. They have no one to relieve them.

Mannnnn, if they keep going like that, the Ebola won’t kill them, the exhaustions will.

31giddyup on August 3, 2014 at 3:02 AM

thatsafactjack on August 3, 2014 at 2:59 AM

What I don’t get is if it is supposedly so hard to catch, why do they need to wear containment suits?

I have to say that those people who are trying to help the victims are very brave and heroic people.

cat_owner on August 3, 2014 at 3:03 AM

Sigh… I had laundry hanging on the line when it started raining…

oscarwilde on August 3, 2014 at 3:02 AM

So what? Acid rain does wonders for cotton…

OmahaConservative on August 3, 2014 at 3:07 AM

thatsafactjack on August 3, 2014 at 2:59 AM

that biker kid was from Sierra Leone..
but he was at the games…where ever they are..
hope his test continue to go well..

that link about the 100 health workers getting ill is scary..
they are the most knowledgeable and careful…and they got it..

from what doc says it should run out of victims if its contained.
but if countries are shipping the ill around ..
that increases the odds a ton… mistakes happen..

going2mars on August 3, 2014 at 3:11 AM

Evening Miss Jackie,
Thank you for all the research and info you’re sharing. Due for some time off yet?
We live where we don’t have to worry about flooding. Fortunately, we’ve only felt only one or two earthquakes in the 15 years we’ve been here. Do you have to worry about nature’s revenge where you live? Oh, if you’re working don’t worry about getting back to me…

31giddyup on August 3, 2014 at 3:11 AM

There are certain aspects I miss about living in California…

OmahaConservative on August 3, 2014 at 3:14 AM

cat_owner on August 3, 2014 at 3:03 AM

Good evening, cat_owner. The people infected cough, sweat profusely, have diarrhea, and are vomiting, and in the later stages, hemorrhaging. They also often have secondary infections like infectious pneumonia, or one or more of the many diseases that are prevalent in Africa that we don’t see here because the victims have a weakened immune response and system.

Since there’s no cure for Ebola, the health care workers are administering fluids, orally and intravenously, they are administering antibiotics, anti-inflammatory drugs, coagulants, etc. and they are washing the victims, changing their clothing and linens, feeding them both orally and intravenously, and trying to keep them comfortable.

Any body fluid, including sweat, blood, urine, feces, mucus, or tears, and even semen ( although they’d not likely be in contact with that but in laboratory tests men infected with the disease who recovered still contained live virus in their semen up to seven weeks after they recovered) is infected with the disease. It’s imperative that the health care workers don’t carry the virus out of the treatment facility on their person or clothing. This is why the contamination suits are necessary.

thatsafactjack on August 3, 2014 at 3:14 AM

Clothes on the line.
Bummer, Oscar.
Doesn’t smell so fresh when you have to lay them around the house to dry.

31giddyup on August 3, 2014 at 3:14 AM

Oklahoma had more earthquakes today than California..
was that Greek kid playing in your pool again ms J?

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/map/

going2mars on August 3, 2014 at 3:18 AM

31giddyup on August 3, 2014 at 3:11 AM

When I lived in Southern California I dealt primarily with earthquakes, brush fires, forest fires when I lived in the mountains, and mudslides/landslides when I lived above the beaches.

Here in Oklahoma we worry mostly about tornadoes ( mostly between April and November) or damaging high winds and huge hail storms, but this last year we’ve also had more earthquakes than Southern California. They’re mostly so small I don’t notice them, but the fact that we have them does bother people not so used to them.

I’m glad to hear that your area is fairly calm and protected.:) It’s a beautiful part of the state and I miss the mountains very much, indeed.

thatsafactjack on August 3, 2014 at 3:19 AM

going2mars on August 3, 2014 at 3:18 AM

lol!Is that what causes it? I thought it was something you and Mr. Wilde might have been building. ;)

thatsafactjack on August 3, 2014 at 3:20 AM

I miss California too. Anyone who has ever lived there cannot lie and say they don’t…

OmahaConservative on August 3, 2014 at 3:22 AM

There are certain aspects I miss about living in California…

OmahaConservative on August 3, 2014 at 3:14 AM

I didn’t appreciate our weather here or the quick access to the mountains, ocean, and rivers, until I left home (21 yrs old). I lived as far North as Bath, Maine, all the way down to Pensacola, Florida, with cities in between. Loved the people and the history that surrounded us, but I never got used to the humidity.

31giddyup on August 3, 2014 at 3:22 AM

thatsafactjack on August 3, 2014 at 3:14 AM

Thanks so much for explaining that. There is a lot about it that I don’t know.

Despite all these precautions, there still are some medical professionals who have gotten sick.

The suffering must be unimaginable.

cat_owner on August 3, 2014 at 3:24 AM

thatsafactjack on August 3, 2014 at 3:20 AM

maybe he is bumbling around in the kerfuffle you gave him..
knocking into stuffs..
I think he is building a shop for the repairs…new tools all the time..

going2mars on August 3, 2014 at 3:24 AM

The rain and storms are done and I am going to bed…

OmahaConservative on August 3, 2014 at 3:26 AM

going2mars on August 3, 2014 at 3:18 AM

That is so bizarre. Who would guess that Oklahoma would have more than CA?

cat_owner on August 3, 2014 at 3:27 AM

I hate humidity…

OmahaConservative on August 3, 2014 at 3:28 AM

going2mars on August 3, 2014 at 3:11 AM

Some of the infected countries have already closed portions of their borders and at least one airline has suspended flights to those regions in an effort to contain the disease.

Pan African Airlines Suspends Flights To Ebola Hit Countries

This suspension was imposed after the American who died in Nigeria was found to have flown from Sierra Leone and was experiencing symptoms when he boarded the flight. He died not long after reaching Nigeria, but he was headed home to Minnesota.

Those government officials with whom he was in contact before he left were all placed in quarantine.

Also, they suspended the football season because it’s a contact sport.

The EU and the UK are on alert.

thatsafactjack on August 3, 2014 at 3:29 AM

Nite OC. Sweet dreams.

31giddyup on August 3, 2014 at 3:31 AM

I miss California too. Anyone who has ever lived there cannot lie and say they don’t…

OmahaConservative on August 3, 2014 at 3:22 AM

I lived in the apartment with the white square in the window
second down from the top, second in from the right.. for 10 years..
yeah.. I miss the place too…

http://www.bing.com/maps/?FORM=Z9LH2

the white square is a drawing..
the sun made it easy to do overlays…changes..

going2mars on August 3, 2014 at 3:31 AM

31giddyup on August 3, 2014 at 3:22 AM

I miss California all the time, Rhonda.

thatsafactjack on August 3, 2014 at 3:31 AM

that didn’t work…sorry

google maps it here

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.7654408,-118.1797582,65m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en

going2mars on August 3, 2014 at 3:32 AM

going2mars on August 3, 2014 at 3:31 AM

That clear, bright, sunlight. I remember. :)

thatsafactjack on August 3, 2014 at 3:32 AM

Oklahoma had more earthquakes today than California..
was that Greek kid playing in your pool again ms J?

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/map/

going2mars on August 3, 2014 at 3:18 AM

Cool site G2M. Going to bookmark that one.
How are you? Brother doing well?

31giddyup on August 3, 2014 at 3:35 AM

sleep well OC… cheers..

going2mars on August 3, 2014 at 3:36 AM

*sigh*…I’ve got to get back to work. You guys are most welcome for the links. I’ve been researching it so I had them handy.

I wish you goodnight. Let the world go for awhile… and dream of wondrous things. :)

thatsafactjack on August 3, 2014 at 3:38 AM

thatsafactjack on August 3, 2014 at 3:32 AM

its a shotgun apartment/condo…
I walked from the front door straight for the balcony.. floor to ceiling windows…beach..
while passing thru the sliding doors I got my pen and checkbook out..
I remember hearing the real estate lady 30 feet behind me mumbling
about bedrooms and a bath and garbage disposal…barely..
perfect weather…sun sun sun… foods.. sighs..

going2mars on August 3, 2014 at 3:42 AM

sleep well ms J…thanks for the links..be safe..

going2mars on August 3, 2014 at 3:45 AM

Miss Jackie, I lived on Yerba Buena Island which connects with the Bay Bridge in San Francisco, when I was first married. I was able to watch my hubs ship come and go as it left for his lengthy cruises, the sun set behind San Francisco, and the yacht races. There was a secluded cove on the island that was hard to get to and I went there often with my dogs. Even back then, with the Bay Area as busy and crazy as it was, it was my little piece of heaven. I even found comfort listening to the foghorns during foggy nights. I’ve been truly blessed by being allowed to live here.

31giddyup on August 3, 2014 at 3:53 AM

im looking for something to cheer us up 31…

bears at brooks falls??

http://explore.org/live-cams/player/brown-bear-salmon-cam-brooks-falls

going2mars on August 3, 2014 at 3:53 AM

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