Quotes of the day

posted at 8:31 pm on August 2, 2014 by Allahpundit

“The IDF has neutralized many terror tunnels that took years for Hamas to build,” Netanyahu said at the start of his address. “The IDF has had many achievements and successes since the beginning of the operation, hitting thousands of targets, including command center, arms factories, and terrorists.”

“This is a complicated mission, in an urban area, with contact with civilian population,” He said. “I am proud of our soldiers who are doing an extraordinary job,” he encouraged the military troops…

“We have nothing against the citizens of Gaza that have nothing to do with terrorism,” he said, adding that The army will continue to operate until the mission is completed – to restore the security and quiet to the citizens of Israel.

“The IDF will continue its mission according to Israel’s security needs, and only according to them,” he concluded.

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An Israeli Cabinet minister says there is “no point” in trying to reach a Gaza truce with Hamas and that Israel won’t send a delegation to planned cease-fire talks in Cairo.

The minister, Yuval Steinitz, spoke Saturday on Israel’s Channel 10 television station.

His comments suggests that Israel plans to end the current round of fighting with Hamas on its own terms, rather than getting entangled in indirect negotiations with Gaza’s Hamas rulers.

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“This is unprecedented in the history of the Arab-Israeli conflict,” says CNN’s Ali Younes, an analyst who has covered the region for decades. “Most Arab states are actively supporting Israel against the Palestinians — and not even shy about it or doing it discreetly.”

It’s a “joint Arab-Israeli war consisting of Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia against other Arabs — the Palestinians as represented by Hamas.”…

“The Israel-Hamas conflict has laid bare the new divides of the Middle East,” says Danielle Pletka, vice president of foreign and defense policy studies at the American Enterprise Institute. “It’s no longer the Muslims against the Jews. Now it’s the extremists — the Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas, Hezbollah, and their backers Iran, Qatar and Turkey — against Israel and the more moderate Muslims including Jordan, Egypt, and Saudi Arabia.”

“It’s a proxy war for control or dominance in the Middle East,” says CNN’s Fareed Zakaria.

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The abduction of an Israeli soldier would provide Hamas with a tactical achievement that could strengthen its bargaining position. But it would have come at a cost: it placed Hamas on the defensive for violating a U.N.-backed cease-fire that offered Gazans their first greatest hope of relief in the 26-day long war. It also relieved political pressure on Israel, which was sharply criticized by the U.N. and the White House following reports that it shelled a U.N. shelter in Gaza on Wednesday, killing more than 16 civilians…

But if the Palestinians have him, his capture could take the two sides down one of two sharply different paths. Kidnapped soldiers have tremendous emotional resonance in Israel, who a few years ago swapped 1,000 Palestinians for a single missing soldier, Gilad Shalit. Hamas would expect Israel to make far-reaching concessions this time around as well. But with the Israeli public strongly supporting Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s tough approach to the confrontation, the capture could also lead to Israel intensifying its military campaign in an effort to find and rescue the missing soldier. That could further escalate the already bloody conflict, which has killed more than 1,400 Palestinians, many of whom were civilians, and 60 Israelis, mostly soldiers.

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a) The compact between the Israeli army and Israeli parents is simple: You give us your sons, and we will do whatever we can to keep them alive. This includes conducting operations that get other soldiers killed. There will be near-unanimity in Israel that this soldier should be rescued, regardless of price to Israel, or certainly to the Palestinians in Gaza.

b) There is near-unanimity in Israel already that Hamas represents an unbearable threat. Add in the perfidy of a raid conducted after a ceasefire went into effect and near-unanimity becomes total unanimity…

c) For Israelis who are immune, unlike Amos Oz, to the criticism of outsiders, the world’s inability, or unwillingness, to understand the Hamas threat in the way that Oz (and most everyone else in Israel) understands it suggests that there is nothing Israel can do, short of national suicide, to stop the condemnation of their country. Which, of course, frees Israel, in their minds, to take whatever action it deems necessary to take. In other words, don’t be overly surprised by news later today of a massive Israeli army reserve call-up.

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Three. That is the number of times Israel has fought Hamas since 2007, when the terror group seized control of the Gaza Strip. There was Operation Cast Lead in 2008, Operation Pillar of Defense in 2012, and now Operation Protective Edge in 2014. In all three cases the story has been the same: Israel is attacked; Israel responds; Israel is condemned; Israel ceases fire. Hamas is weakened. Hamas recovers. The rockets return. Rewind and repeat…

Collapse the tunnels or collapse Hamas. Lives will be lost either way. The difference is in the end state. Leave Hamas in charge, and you guarantee the war will resume, and more lives will be lost. Topple Hamas, and you remove the source of the conflict, the first cause of the death and destruction. Lives will be saved over time. Want an example? Casualties spiked during the Iraq surge in 2007. Then both American and civilian casualties plummeted. They remained low for years—until America withdrew…

Yes, there would be costs to regime change in the Gaza Strip. But the choice is not between a costly policy and a cost-free one. The choice is between the costs of removing a terrorist group from power and the costs of leaving it injured but able to fight another day. To prevent a fourth war, to bolster ties with the Sunni powers, to improve the chances of a two-state solution, to help the Palestinians, above all to secure Israel, the decision is clear. Destroy Hamas. End the war. Free Gaza.

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Those who claim there is only a political solution to the problem fail to understand that in the absence of a military solution it won’t be possible. Until something happens that will eliminate the Palestinian force that is determined to keep the conflict red-hot and is prepared to sacrifice their own people in order to advance that objective, there is no point to those who criticize Israel for not creating a Palestinian state. Though it has been blockaded by Israel, Egypt, and the international community since the 2007 coup that brought Hamas to power there, Gaza has functioned as an independent state for all intents and purposes since then. Its government’s sole objective has been to fight Israel, pouring its scarce resources into rockets, tunnels, and other military expenses while—despite Hamas’s reputation as a “social welfare organization”—doing virtually nothing to better the lives of its people. So long as it is allowed to stay in power that won’t change and, no matter how many cease-fires or negotiations John Kerry sponsors, peace will never happen.

Pressing on in Gaza will be costly and will be brutally criticized by the international press, the U.N., celebrities on Twitter, and every other conceivable venue. No one should think that Hamas’s duplicity and belligerence—amply demonstrated by today’s brutal cease-fire violation—will create much backing for an Israeli effort to finish the job in Gaza. But finish it they must or be faced with the necessity of starting over at some point in the near future. Despite publicized fears of something worse following this genocidal group, that is a myth. Anyone who really cares about the people of Gaza or peace should realize that and sit back and let Israel end the Hamas nightmare once and for all.

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Failure is the price of sovereignty. Statehood means making hard and often agonizing choices—whether to attack Hamas in Palestinian neighborhoods, for example, or to suffer rocket strikes on our own territory. It requires reconciling our desire to be enlightened with our longing to remain alive. Most onerously, sovereignty involves assuming responsibility. Zionism, in my definition, means Jewish responsibility. It means taking responsibility for our infrastructure, our defense, our society and the soul of our state. It is easy to claim responsibility for victories; setbacks are far harder to embrace.

But that is precisely the lure of Zionism. Growing up in America, I felt grateful to be born in a time when Jews could assume sovereign responsibilities. Statehood is messy, but I regarded that mess as a blessing denied to my forefathers for 2,000 years. I still feel privileged today, even as Israel grapples with circumstances that are at once perilous, painful and unjust. Fighting terrorists who shoot at us from behind their own children, our children in uniform continue to be killed and wounded while much of the world brands them as war criminals.

Zionism, nevertheless, will prevail. Deriving its energy from a people that refuses to disappear and its ethos from historically tested ideas, the Zionist project will thrive. We will be vilified, we will find ourselves increasingly alone, but we will defend the homes that Zionism inspired us to build.

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Via Mediaite.


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G2M
How great to be at the beach and have such a wonderful view!
What a way to de-stress.

31giddyup on August 3, 2014 at 3:59 AM

im looking for something to cheer us up 31…

bears at brooks falls??

http://explore.org/live-cams/player/brown-bear-salmon-cam-brooks-falls

going2mars on August 3, 2014 at 3:53 AM

*Mind Meld Alert*
I was just going to tell you that I’ve been watching the bears off and on for the last two days.

31giddyup on August 3, 2014 at 4:01 AM

I booked that link when you passed it out. Thank you.

31giddyup on August 3, 2014 at 4:02 AM

Why Lamar Alexander is in Trouble

http://www.breitbart.com/InstaBlog/2014/07/31/Why-Lamar-Alexander-is-in-Trouble?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Defeat the climate change pushing amnesty shill that voted for the Gang of 8 bill. Vote Carr, not Lamar! Primary: August 7th!

Btw, a Red Riding Horses poll just out on Friday does have Lamar leading 41 – 29. But there is 20% undecided which is very high for an incumbent. With the rising force of the amnesty issue, and about a week left, I can easily see a Carr victory.

anotherJoe on August 3, 2014 at 4:03 AM

I called it decompress….same thing…smiles..
it actually faces south..
so most of the sunsets happened to the left..
but the view was like a huge wall mural that moved…
ships.. sails.. birds.. seals.. the blue of the water against the sky..
she redid the place I hear its 2250 a month now..

going2mars on August 3, 2014 at 4:05 AM

anotherJoe on August 3, 2014 at 4:03 AM

I hope so.

cat_owner on August 3, 2014 at 4:09 AM

bears off and on for the last two days.

31giddyup on August 3, 2014 at 4:01 AM

ive been waiting for the osprey to leave the nest..
(its not quite daylight in Maine yet..)

http://explore.org/live-cams/player/live-osprey-cam

going2mars on August 3, 2014 at 4:11 AM

G2M
Ahhh! There are several Osprey nests on platforms found around our reservoirs that some one built. What I can’t understand is that the nest are on top of poles that seem taller than telephone polls. No shade. I don’t know how in the heck the birds survive the heat.

31giddyup on August 3, 2014 at 4:19 AM

be a good night to go out and see mars…
cept for the clouds here….another cloudy Michigan night… :(

http://www.space.com/26717-best-planets-august-2014-skywatching.html

going2mars on August 3, 2014 at 4:19 AM

Ah, man, there’s a quiz at the bottom of that site. Now I have to go find the basics and study up before I even think of taking it.

31giddyup on August 3, 2014 at 4:24 AM

31giddyup on August 3, 2014 at 4:19 AM

on top…wing clearance… easy on easy off..
besides up where you are a bird can just float up elevation..
riding those California central valley thermals..
the sierras have great birds..

going2mars on August 3, 2014 at 4:26 AM

G2M
But what about the chicks? Crispy critters.

Time to lay my thoughts down with my head G.
Tomorrow will be better, if not the day after, or the one after that….

Gonna miss you again COL. Have great day and hope those raccoons have stayed away

31giddyup on August 3, 2014 at 4:33 AM

Missed you by a couple of minutes.

crankyoldlady on August 3, 2014 at 4:38 AM

you could take out the teardrop and catch this
from some higher elevation campground I bet..

Bright Moon May Outshine Perseid Meteor Shower This Month

http://www.space.com/26703-perseid-meteor-shower-august-bright-moon.html

going2mars on August 3, 2014 at 4:39 AM

sleep well 31…be safe…cheers

going2mars on August 3, 2014 at 4:40 AM

morning COL…
hope you slept well…
looks like a sunny day for you down there..

going2mars on August 3, 2014 at 4:41 AM

A sunny day would be nice. Yesterday was kind of weird. The sun was faded. I have to sit at the museum this afternoon. The only time I see anything in the night sky here is if the electricity is off.

crankyoldlady on August 3, 2014 at 4:46 AM

laffs..
drive just out of town
to the nearest farm…
turn left at the corn fields..
drive in 100 rows..
open sunroof..
look up..

going2mars on August 3, 2014 at 4:49 AM

I don’t have a sunroof and the farmers might take exception.

crankyoldlady on August 3, 2014 at 4:55 AM

lets go with the glass is half full out look..

open the door and step out.. then look up
and
maybe the farmer is rich and single..
he might offer to drive you out star watching on his tractor..!!

going2mars on August 3, 2014 at 5:01 AM

Germans here. They don’t do anything like that.

crankyoldlady on August 3, 2014 at 5:03 AM

some women go to the grocery store to meet men
some to a bar or fancy restaurant..
you are going right to the farm…
no middlemen…

going2mars on August 3, 2014 at 5:09 AM

looks like GLOOMY SUNDAY here—-Billie…..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48cTUnUtzx4

night COL.. enjoy your day..

going2mars on August 3, 2014 at 5:25 AM

That will be great to see how this month’s town hall immigration protests compares to the Obamacare town hall protests of August 2009.

anotherJoe on August 3, 2014 at 1:55 AM

Why wait for town halls? The scumbags won’t be holding them and it’s a waste to go after the ones who are on our side. Go to their offices and picket.

crankyoldlady on August 3, 2014 at 5:33 AM

HAMAS wages war without declaring it, kills whenever it wishes and seeks to impose the only law it knows, which is that of Nature upon any it can subjugate. They are NOT an ‘armed wing’ of any political organization, although that is their claim: by their actions they declare themselves Pirate and attack on land, at sea and wherever they can to gain power. If only we had the honest Pirates of yore who fought for material wealth and gain! But they, too, subjugated towns, cities and even Nations to their will, enforcing their own creed upon others and never once taking up the burden of being a civil authority that recognizes limits upon them. The solution of old was to kill such, not in glory but as a duty to being civilized. You can have no peace with them and no trust of them, and once they spurn civilized ways to continue their practices, they announce themselves comfortable in their savagery to all mankind.

Those who support HAMAS seek to end civilizations, Nations and bring the entire breadth of humanity to war against itself in that Private realm that we have forsworn because we are civilized. We arm in self-defense from such Private War so that we may not be subject to it and the depravity of savage man loosed upon the world. Notice who supports HAMAS and see the backers of savagery not just in Gaza but the world as a whole. Their support puts them into that category of supporting the basest and worst sorts of actions to achieve power over their fellow man by force, savage force, without limit and without end.

I applaud those local regimes in the Middle East as those across the world that seek an end to HAMAS and are willing to ensure its end. THEY are picking up the heavy burden of being civilized, which is not a guarantee of peace but of being able to enforce civilized ways upon those who freely revert to savage war on their own. Being civilized isn’t about being peaceful. It is about recognizing the DUTY of being civilized, the OBLIGATIONS that being civilized has, and the HONOR of fulfilling that duty starting with oneself.

I mourn in sadness those soldiers who ARE soldiers who fight AS soldiers and honorably sacrifice their lives to defend civilization. We owe them so much that words cannot express as they fulfill the DUTY, HONOR and OBLIGATION in the worst of places against most savage man. That is part and parcel of BEING civilized, and those who seek to support savagery are stepping away from those things that are required to have a peaceful society and they will seek to disarm those who only seek to defend themselves from savage man who can appear wherever any man or woman believes that they should and must have power over their fellow man.

Self-government, those ones have lost, and there is no power on Earth that can restore that and for such individuals to regain the trust of the patient, honest and law abiding civilized peoples of the Earth. No exterior government can create civil respect, only push civil fear with its powers. Look at HAMAS and see what they do, how they rule and ask if there is any part of what they do, how they do it or who they are that is civilized in any way, shape or form when it comes to regard to even their OWN PEOPLE? If you find it lacking, if you find that they do not have civil governance, if you find that they endanger others in their aim to create savage war, then do ask yourself: HOW CAN THEY BE TRUSTED? They show only the restraint of animals being hunted down because they are dangerous to mankind, which is the Law of Nature to them and the only Law they understand or will abide by.

Any seeking to conflate HAMAS with soldiers who have restraints they abide by is seeking to ‘normalize’ savagery not just in the Middle East but globally. Those ones invite war unending for power over their fellow man. Those supporters now are in the position to seek the liquidation of civilization and think they can ‘win’ when Nature’s Law descends upon all Nations across the world. Only the self-restraint of being civilized gives the strength to fight savage man at every turn. Self-restraint is no loss but a huge boon to all who practice it, preach it and live it. Those who do not do so wish to be savages and say so in those that they support who have already turned their back on civilization.

Keep your eye on them.

They are YOUR enemy and the enemy of ALL civilized men and seek to entice you by manipulating your emotions so that you, too, become savage.

The choice to remain civilized is yours, not theirs.

Never forget this.

ajacksonian on August 3, 2014 at 7:00 AM

Some fool over @ Twitchy accused me-ME_ of being an anti-Israel troll.
I wrote BDE-and he thought it meant, ‘Best Day Ever’.
BDE: Baruch Dayan Emet. Blessed be the Judge.
It’s kind of a Hebrew/Jewish RIP.

To IDF hero Hadar Goldin: BDE

annoyinglittletwerp on August 3, 2014 at 7:06 AM

Sobh beh’kha COL. Hey, I gots me a tractor built for two. Mostly bush hog with it. Too old to truck farm any more. Low 80′sF and rain. Bad for motor boating, but good for the yard. Our main house has about an acre of landscaping to maintain and I have been busy this year. Slowly changing over to fall plants and will be at Pike’s this morning.

Son left for work this morning at 0430. He loves to work, which is a surprise as he was our video gamer and house-bound. Hope you are in good spirits.

HonestLib on August 3, 2014 at 7:35 AM

Blessed Sabbath, y’all!

“Intelligence, patriotism, Christianity, and a firm reliance on Him who has never yet forsaken this favored land, are still competent to adjust in the best way all our present difficulties.” – Abraham Lincoln, President, March 4, 1861 inaugural address

My take: The War Against Christianity: Obama’s IRS to Investigate Churches For the “Wrong Kind” of Political Speech

kingsjester on August 3, 2014 at 9:22 AM

Hey, I gots me a tractor built for two. Mostly bush hog with it. Too old to truck farm any more.

HonestLib on August 3, 2014 at 7:35 AM

Hmmmm…seeing as how farming is many years in my rear view mirror…I mostly only remember the good parts.

cozmo on August 3, 2014 at 9:36 AM

So… I got my Obamacare refund, which amounted to about $82 a month. In the same batch of mail was a notice from my insurance agency that my rates would go up another $145 a month.

I hate these people. Absolutely HATE every Democrat (and Supreme Court justice) who hoisted this load of crap upon us, oh, and add into my rant, every Republican who is too frightened or unwilling to try to free us from this government overreach.

Grrr…

Fallon on August 3, 2014 at 9:36 AM

I’ve not commented on QOTD during the morning after. Until now, that is. Since I was too busy (read: lazy) to show up last night …

I have a new laptop! And I have to get used to the keyboard; it has a different feel and I’m making a bunch of typos that I have to go back and correct.

Alien on August 3, 2014 at 9:55 AM

I have a new laptop! And I have to get used to the keyboard; it has a different feel and I’m making a bunch of typos that I have to go back and correct.

Alien on August 3, 2014 at 9:55 AM

We’ll be lenient in grading.

crankyoldlady on August 3, 2014 at 10:02 AM

http://www.uio.no/studier/emner/matnat/fys/FYS3120/v05/undervisningsmateriale/Relativity.pdf

going2mars on August 2, 2014 at 10:31 PM

Some theorize that each space dimension has a time dimension.

Thinking about extra dimension is a great challenge to “thinking outside the paradigm.”

davidk on August 3, 2014 at 10:37 AM

Alien on August 3, 2014 at 9:55 AM

Yea…yea…yea….1st time poster, long time lurker. Hey, it’s noon….time for a beer.

About that different feel thingy……this ain’t Penthouse Forums you know.

HonestLib on August 3, 2014 at 12:09 PM

I have a new laptop! And I have to get used to the keyboard; it has a different feel and I’m making a bunch of typos that I have to go back and correct.

Alien on August 3, 2014 at 9:55 AM

Strange, I have the same problem but my ipad is old. ; )

31giddyup on August 3, 2014 at 1:47 PM

My take: The War Against Christianity: Obama’s IRS to Investigate Churches For the “Wrong Kind” of Political Speech

kingsjester on August 3, 2014 at 9:22 AM

Always strange to see Christians worried about a war against Christianity.

God’s on your side. Relax.

DarkCurrent on August 3, 2014 at 4:06 PM

kingsjester on August 3, 2014 at 9:22 AM

.
Always strange to see Christians worried about a war against Christianity.

God’s on your side. Relax.

DarkCurrent on August 3, 2014 at 4:06 PM

.
God’s NOT “in control.” … It always gets me in trouble with many of my fellow brethren, when I say that, but this reply had to begin just that way.

The fact is too many American Christians aren’t engaged in their part of the ministry, and for this reason our government has been taken over by by people who want to dis-empower all earthly institutions that represent Christianity.

kingsjester‘s blog is trying to call people’s attention to this, and hopefully wake-up some slumbering Christians, and get them engaged in this fight.

listens2glenn on August 3, 2014 at 8:04 PM

Yes, Ebola would be worse in a big city, but they would also have more resources to mobilize.

Doc Holliday on August 3, 2014 at 2:11 AM

Attention To Detail Error:

So – if Terrorists Are Willing To Strap BOMBS to themselves to blow themselves and OTHERS up…..

WHY wouldn’t they be Willing to inject themselves with Ebola and Travel to The U.S………………

williamg on August 4, 2014 at 3:19 AM

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