Wes Clark: Clinton had an opportunity to go in on the ground to get Bin Laden but it was “a lot of logistics”

posted at 6:41 pm on August 1, 2014 by Allahpundit

A follow-up to yesterday’s very belated bombshell about the future First Gentleman failing to pull the trigger on Bin Laden when he had the chance for fear of civilian casualties. Did you know anything about that, asked Jake Tapper of former NATO Supreme Commander Wes Clark? The one operation I know of, Clark replied, was a proposed ground operation to get Bin Laden — which Clinton allegedly nixed because there were “a lot of logistics.” There were a lot of logistics involved in the 2011 raid on Abbottabad too but Obama didn’t let that stop him, to his credit. What’s Clinton’s excuse? Was Bin Laden not a big enough fish yet, the embassy bombings and USS Cole attack notwithstanding, to risk U.S. casualties? Or was this more a matter of having cold feet after Mogadishu and not wanting to absorb the political blow of another botched mission with U.S. troops stranded behind enemy lines?

Also, did Clinton even mention this to those Australian businessmen? We only got a tiny snippet of audio, but it makes sense that he’d want to showcase his refusal to order an air raid but not a ground raid. His excuse for not bombing Bin Laden, i.e. civilian casualties, made him look magnanimous; he went so far as to say that killing people indiscriminately in the name of killing Osama would have made him no better than a terrorist himself. That’s a harder argument to make in the case of a ground raid, the whole point of which is to maximize your ability to discriminate among targets. That’s why Obama sent SEAL Team Six into Abbottabad instead of simply droning Bin Laden’s compound from the air. They weren’t sure Bin Laden was inside and didn’t want to risk a major international incident by bombing a house belonging to an innocent person in a country with which we’re formally allied. He wanted eyes and ears on the ground. Clinton could have had the same thing, per Clark, but decided against it. How come?


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Math is hard.

Axeman on August 1, 2014 at 6:43 PM

Hillary/Wes, for the

Man/woman ticket, in that order

Schadenfreude on August 1, 2014 at 6:43 PM

He should have called UPS.

RedRedRice on August 1, 2014 at 6:46 PM

Weaselly didn’t hesitate to help Barbecue Reno lovingly roast the 76 Davidians at Waco.

Logistics my @$$.

viking01 on August 1, 2014 at 6:48 PM

Wes Clark: Clinton had an opportunity to go in on the ground to get Bin Laden but it was “a lot of logistics”

We <3 Logistics

Stoic Patriot on August 1, 2014 at 6:51 PM

There were a lot of logistics involved in the 2011 raid on Abbottabad too but Obama didn’t let that stop him, to his credit.

I’m guessing there several of Obama’s top advisors screaming at him to push the button. Left alone, he’d still be weighing the political pros’ and con’s. I’d further place money on a bet that he was against the raid, and was somehow strong-armed into it.

BobMbx on August 1, 2014 at 6:52 PM

Even Jimmah Cahtah had enough balls to try and rescue some hostages in Iran.

southsideironworks on August 1, 2014 at 6:54 PM

The Super Bowl is a logistical nightmare every year but the NFL seems to be able to pull it off.

He had his damn finger in the air and the wind was not blowing the right way.

BacaDog on August 1, 2014 at 6:55 PM

Cliton was off his game and down in, er, out of the mouth. He couldn’t concentrate as he hadn’t had his small brain stimulation that day.

vnvet on August 1, 2014 at 6:55 PM

Clinton s/b named Di*k.

Schadenfreude on August 1, 2014 at 6:57 PM

Logistics? I seem to think that is what our military does. Wes is just a water carrier. Always has been.

CW on August 1, 2014 at 6:58 PM

I just had this random thought.

Is there anything stopping Slick Willy from being Hillary’s running mate in 2016 and becoming VP?

Defenestratus on August 1, 2014 at 7:00 PM

He managed Monica’s thong and procreating with Hillabeast (BLEACH).
Osama should’ve been easy.

HornetSting on August 1, 2014 at 7:02 PM

There were a lot of logistics involved in the 2011 raid on Abbottabad too but Obama didn’t let that stop him, to his credit.

I’m guessing there several of Obama’s top advisors screaming at him to push the button. Left alone, he’d still be weighing the political pros’ and con’s. I’d further place money on a bet that he was against the raid, and was somehow strong-armed into it.

BobMbx on August 1, 2014 at 6:52 PM

Word is that Panetta actually gave the go-ahead and they only told Barry after the op was underway.

slickwillie2001 on August 1, 2014 at 7:04 PM

Riiiiiiight.

Logistics never stopped Bubba and his Arkansas State Troopers from the really important stuff like serial philandering …

ShainS on August 1, 2014 at 7:04 PM

It’s too bad that the 9/11 bombers weren’t similarly discouraged by the hassle of ‘logistics.’

cynccook on August 1, 2014 at 7:08 PM

The logistics for taking out bin Laden had less to do with him and more to do with the fact that he was not a principle in an investigation…at least in 1993. Bin Laden was investigated as a power broken in Khartoum in the early 90′s while agents from multiple agencies and nations were seeking Carlos the Jackal. While bin Laden was considered a bad guy at the time, the feeling was the offing him would cause other targets to go to ground, including Ilich Ramirez Sanchez, better known as Carlos the Jackal.

Sgt Steve on August 1, 2014 at 7:09 PM

Obama did it because Osama was competition for the Muslim Brotherhood.

albill on August 1, 2014 at 7:10 PM

A lot of logistics.

He would have done the raid if there had just been a few tiny logistics, but oh no! There were LOTS. Climbing over all those piles of logistics would have seriously endangered our Special Forces guys, in case of tripping and stuff.

And it is very hard to be quiet when there are so many loose logistics clattering around.

Dolce Far Niente on August 1, 2014 at 7:11 PM

Is there anything stopping Slick Willy from being Hillary’s running mate in 2016 and becoming VP?

Defenestratus on August 1, 2014 at 7:00 PM

Good question, as I’ve mockingly proposed that ticket in the past.

Here’s a pretty good discussion of that scenario …

[Basically, the 12th Amendment (ratified in 1804) states "no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States."

And the 22nd Amendment (ratified in 1951) states that Clinton can clearly not "be elected" to the presidency -- but does that include the Vice Presidency? Would likely require a SCOTUS decision.]

ShainS on August 1, 2014 at 7:12 PM

If Bill had gone after UBL, Hillary! wouldn’t have like it.

Like most progressives, she saw him as the great hope of the Muslim world to lance the “abscess” called Israel. And she probably never believed he’d have the cojones’ to attack the U.S. directly on its home turf.

Also, she would have regarded an airline hijacking as an excuse for a hostage swap. The paradigm shifted abruptly on 9/11/2001, but some Dems still haven’t gotten the word.

clear ether

eon

eon on August 1, 2014 at 7:13 PM

Para mis nuevos vecinos hondureños que podrían estar leyendo esto en sus nuevos portátiles en el Spa Seguridad Nacional.

Te voy a dar un poco de historia.

Ver Bill Clinton es un viejo tipo blanco de Arkansas. Era un verdadero político zalamero con mucho talento que le gustaba atacar a las mujeres (Juanita Broderrick, etc) y le gustaba el flop fuera su bien ….. ….. su cosita y tienen las mujeres así …… ya sabes …

De todos modos él estaba muy ocupado recibiendo un montón de acción en la oficina oral y no tenía tiempo para centrarse en matar el enemigo número uno de Estados Unidos y estaba muy preocupado por la vida de las personas en otras naciones.

Y esto es todo. Una introducción rápida político de la presidencia de Clinton.

Voy a tratar de publicar más como la invasión sigue ayudando a entender que los progresistas son malos, los conservadores son buenos.

Gracias compadres.

PappyD61 on August 1, 2014 at 7:19 PM

Word is that Panetta actually gave the go-ahead and they only told Barry after the op was underway.

slickwillie2001 on August 1, 2014 at 7:04 PM

Panetta got a “what if” go-ahead because Barry was not willing to make a decision. Panetta made sure the “what if” situation happened.

Buck Farky on August 1, 2014 at 7:19 PM

Bill Clinton?

For my Honduran new neighbors that might be reading this on their new laptops at the Homeland Security Spa.

Let me give you a little history.

See Bill Clinton is an old white guy from Arkansas. He was a very talented smarmy true politician that loved to attack women (Juanita Broderrick, etc.) and he liked to flop out his well…..his…..thingy and have women well……you know…

Anyway he was very busy getting lots of action in the Oral office and he didn’t have time to focus on killing America’s number one enemy and he was too worried about the lives of people in other nations.

So there you go. A quick political primer of the Clinton presidency.

I’ll try to post more as the invasion continues to help you understand that Progressives are bad, Conservatives are good.

Thank you compadres.

PappyD61 on August 1, 2014 at 7:19 PM

He had an appointment with an intern under the Oval Office desk, that he just couldn’t bear to miss.

You know… logistics and stuff.

s1im on August 1, 2014 at 7:19 PM

Retweeted by David Burge
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I rest easy knowing that a government that can’t secure a border, build a website or keep track of its sick veterans just brought Ebola here

davidk on August 1, 2014 at 7:22 PM

Clinton is illogistical.

Flange on August 1, 2014 at 7:24 PM

Arizona Department of Corrections: Inmate Joseph Wood was given 15 separate doses of lethal drugs during 2-hour execution – @troyhaydenfox10

davidk on August 1, 2014 at 7:25 PM

Clinton is illogistical.

Flange on August 1, 2014 at 7:24 PM

:]

davidk on August 1, 2014 at 7:25 PM

Tortured some “folks”?:

President Barack Obama couldn’t have been more blunt in acknowledging that the U.S. crossed a moral line in its treatment of war-on-terror prisoners.

“We tortured some folks,” Obama said during a White House news conference Friday. “When we engaged in some of these enhanced interrogation techniques, techniques that I believe and I think any fair-minded person would believe were torture, we crossed a line. And that needs to be understood and accepted.”

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/08/john-brennan-torture-cia-109654.html#ixzz39BbEjPLk

davidk on August 1, 2014 at 7:29 PM

I just had this random thought.

Is there anything stopping Slick Willy from being Hillary’s running mate in 2016 and becoming VP?

Defenestratus on August 1, 2014 at 7:00 PM

The Vice-President has to be eligible to become President. Since Slick Willy served two terms he cannot serve as President so he’s ineligible for YP. Since the Constitution means so little these days that might not matter.

Capp on August 1, 2014 at 7:32 PM

“ASAP!,” he said while tapping his foot:

Israeli-Palestinian conflict
4h
President Obama says Israeli soldier reportedly captured by Hamas needs to be ‘unconditionally released’ as soon as possible – live video
End of alert

davidk on August 1, 2014 at 7:33 PM

Everything seemed so clear to Bill on September 10, 2001.

unclesmrgol on August 1, 2014 at 7:33 PM

“a lot of logistics”
======================

The US Military,….Oh Really!!

And,…..sounds like Benghazi,…..EH!!!!!!

canopfor on August 1, 2014 at 7:34 PM

Never ask your men to do something you wouldn’t do yourself. Put the dagger between your teeth, and go in yourself, Wes!

SMACKRUNNER on August 1, 2014 at 7:35 PM

Everything seemed so clear to Bill on September 10, 2001.

unclesmrgol on August 1, 2014 at 7:33 PM

Yep.

workingclass artist on August 1, 2014 at 7:39 PM

“Who wants PANCAKES?”

mojo on August 1, 2014 at 7:40 PM

I just had this random thought.

Is there anything stopping Slick Willy from being Hillary’s running mate in 2016 and becoming VP?

Defenestratus on August 1, 2014 at 7:00 PM

She won’t run…they’re just raking in dough for Clinton Inc. and jockeying for kingmaker status in the DNC.

He can’t stand the idea of her being historical or something…so he’ll sabotage it.

Fine with me.

workingclass artist on August 1, 2014 at 7:41 PM

Every time Bill Clinton opens his mouth his wife ages another year…

workingclass artist on August 1, 2014 at 7:44 PM

She won’t run…they’re just raking in dough for Clinton Inc. and jockeying for kingmaker status in the DNC.

He can’t stand the idea of her being historical or something…so he’ll sabotage it.

Fine with me.

workingclass artist on August 1, 2014 at 7:41 PM

One of the new Clinton books made the claim that Billy didn’t want Hillary to run or win, because that would put him under the microscope and inhibit his horndogging.

It would also put pressure on him to moderate his list of speechmaking and consulting clients.

slickwillie2001 on August 1, 2014 at 7:44 PM

Clinton was allied with bin Laden. Bin Laden provided Wes Clark with ground troops for his Balkans adventure. These would be what they now call “core al Qaeda”, which is sort of a fallacy in itself since al Qaeda means “base” as in a trunk with a lot of branches or factions. Wes Clark’s ground troops did boot camp in Algeria under the command of drill sergeant bin Laden himself, if I remember correctly.

Buddahpundit on August 1, 2014 at 7:52 PM

Michael Scheuer said this AM on Fox that Clinton had 10 chances to kill Osama.

tim c on August 1, 2014 at 7:55 PM

I guess that’s the problem with the VA, too. A lot of logistics. Do you have any idea how hard it is to track the treatment of all those people?!?!

Axeman on August 1, 2014 at 7:58 PM

If you ever want a lesson on how not to fight a war, pick up a copy of Wes Clark’s book: Waging Modern War. You can pick up a used copy on Amazon for 1¢. At that price it’s still too expensive, but it’s a great cure for insomnia or for use as toilet paper on camping trips.

ReaganWasRight on August 1, 2014 at 8:31 PM

Yeah. Hillary. Benghazi.

No daylight between these two hucksters.

Key West Reader on August 1, 2014 at 8:35 PM

I guess that’s the problem with the VA, too. A lot of logistics. Do you have any idea how hard it is to track the treatment of all those people?!?!

Axeman on August 1, 2014 at 7:58 PM

The solution is simple.

Morphine.

Key West Reader on August 1, 2014 at 8:37 PM

Excuses are like anuseseseses, everybody has at least one and I’ll Bet Willie can come up with 50.

There were a lot of logistics involved in the 2011 raid on Abbottabad too but Obama didn’t let that stop him, to his credit.

According to some, Panetta did an end run around ValJar and Choomie didn’t know what was going on until the pulled him off the 8th tee.

Which is why some think Barry was Photoshopped into the SitRoom picture.

formwiz on August 1, 2014 at 9:01 PM

Hogwash. Clark is brown-nosing his buddy Clinton.

rplat on August 1, 2014 at 9:02 PM

Cleaning up the World Center required even more logistics. Clinton obvioisly made the wrong choice. He was biased by years if hippy anti-military protests.

corkie on August 1, 2014 at 9:08 PM

Why is the serial woman abuser bringing this up again? Is he trying to tellworld that he’s not the torturer that the next prezzy became? He can’t have run out of stories of personal moral greatness to tell. Look at all the wonderful things he did for Haiti as an example.

Kissmygrits on August 2, 2014 at 8:41 AM

Clark is a lib and a Clinton apologist. I remember reading that a sniper had Bin Laden in his sights, and was denied permission to fire. So it was entirely possible for the Clinton Administration, to have taken Bin Laden out, and saved thousands of American lives.

kjatexas on August 2, 2014 at 9:18 AM

Thank you for your service, General.

Now get back to retirement.

TimBuk3 on August 2, 2014 at 12:55 PM