Report: New House bill on border crisis will limit Obama’s power to expand executive amnesty to new illegals; Update: Two separate bills

posted at 10:41 am on August 1, 2014 by Allahpundit

Still waiting for fuller details but Chad Pergram sees some sort of victory for tea partiers in the making. Initially, Boehner wanted to keep his own border bill separate from Ted Cruz’s and Marsha Blackburn’s bill limiting DACA, Obama’s 2012 amnesty for DREAMers. Only if House Republicans passed Boehner’s bill, the leadership insisted, would they get a vote on Cruz/Blackburn. But that was no real incentive: Either the House itself would have killed the Cruz/Blackburn bill or the Senate surely would have killed it. The only way to make DACA part of the ongoing negotiations in Congress was to add it to Boehner’s own bill, as part of the House’s formal offer to Harry Reid. I.e. “one bill, one vote.”

Mission accomplished?

On the other hand:

Chad Pergram’s the only reporter with details on the bill that I’ve noticed but that’s newsy enough that it’s worth flagging now. I’ll update as more details are known. As for the timetable, Pergram says they’re going to at least pay lip service to formal procedure in passing this thing even though they’ll end up ignoring Boehner’s “three-day rule” for posting the text of a bill before it’s voted on. First comes a vote authorizing the House to take up a “same day rule,” then comes the posting of the bill’s text, then comes a meeting of the House Rules Committee followed by a vote of the House on the new rule, and then finally a vote on the bill itself sometime in the late afternoon or early evening. If all goes well, the GOP will have a new message for the August recess — they’ve now formally warned the president that he should go no further than he’s already gone in granting executive amnesty. If he goes ahead and issues a mega-amnesty for adult illegals in September anyway, it’ll look more like outright defiance of the will of one branch of Congress than Congress “refusing to act” or whatever. That might help, however marginally, in the messaging war that follows.

Here’s your thread, just in case you’re following along on C-SPAN today. Updates to follow. One other point in closing in case it’s ambiguous: Cruz/Blackburn wouldn’t *repeal* DACA, it would simply close it off to new applicants. That’s a concession to the politics here. The GOP’s willing, however grudgingly, to take on Obama’s executive action, but it fears the “anti-Latino” brand enough that it won’t expel kids who are currently in the program.

Update: Speaking of the messaging war, Becket Adams wonders why congressional Republicans don’t do something bold to stress the urgency of the border crisis and cancel their recess in August. If you want to show that you’re the party that’s more serious about illegal immigration, here’s your chance:

This form of protest, which was first suggested by Fox News’ Greta Van Susteren, would not only signal to the American public that House leadership gives “a damn” about the crisis, but it also would likely force the White House and the Senate to act on immigration reform (as failure to do so would invite terrible optics ahead of the November midterm elections). Obviously, getting the Obama administration to act on illegal immigration is more important than mere political posturing, the point of the protest being that it may produce a solution to the crisis.

True, it’s a bit “inside the beltway” to talk about so-called “optics” and midterms, but sticking around the city likely won’t hurt the House Republicans. So why not at least consider the idea? It seems like it could be an easy win, one that could hand a much-needed confidence boost to Republican leaders who have likely forgotten what victory feels like.

Update: At least one tea partier is satisfied.

Update: Nope, I’m wrong. The Cruz/Blackburn bill is being split off after all.

Not sure what’s different today from last night. Maybe Pergram’s wrong and Boehner’s agreed to allow a vote on Cruz/Blackburn no matter what; yesterday, Cruz/Blackburn wouldn’t have come to the floor unless and until Boehner’s bill passed. Or maybe the House leadership is whipping votes for Cruz/Blackburn too, so that that bill will at least pass the House before it dies in the Senate.


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davidk on August 1, 2014 at 2:17 PM

I guess the Russkies haven’t come across this collection yet: Light in the Loafers

slickwillie2001 on August 1, 2014 at 3:31 PM

Yap yap yappy yappy yap yap yappy yappy yap yap, yap yap!
(sarc)

canopfor on August 1, 2014 at 3:32 PM

he’s burping and belching and
picking stuff from his teeth with his tongue …
what the h3ll was on the WH lunch menu today…
mooch serve the 5 pound lobster and arugula snacks again??

going2mars on August 1, 2014 at 3:32 PM

If you know, can you explain what that means? Thanks.

bluefox on August 1, 2014 at 3:03 PM

It means that alleged pedophile harry reid can amend the Constitution with a majority Senate vote.

davidk on August 1, 2014 at 3:12 PM

LOL, his mental health state is worse than I thot.

Thanks.

bluefox on August 1, 2014 at 3:32 PM

Frank Thorp V @frankthorpNBC · 1m

Pres Obama on the recent Ebola outbreak: “This is something that we take very seriously.”

Africa Ebola outbreak 2014
1h
Pentagon says Ebola patients being flown from Africa to the US will arrive at Dobbins Air Force Reserve Base north of Atlanta via non-military aircraft – @NBCNews

canopfor on August 1, 2014 at 3:33 PM

He has totally left his party out to dry and does not seem to care.
sorrowen on August 1, 2014 at 3:30 PM
They brung him and they deserve him, in full.
Nov. s/b fun.
Schadenfreude on August 1, 2014 at 3:30 PM
Obama’s executive order record consists of making things worse not better his HHS orders have caused utter choas.

sorrowen on August 1, 2014 at 3:33 PM

bgibbs1000 on August 1, 2014 at 3:11 PM

If the house did draft and pass everything on your list, what would such a bill realistically accomplish that the the two they’re voting on today won’t accomplish?

There’s no chance that the senate or Obama would pass the legislation you suggest, even if the house had the power to demand the changes you’d like to see.

All the legislation you suggest would realistically accomplish would be getting the names on record of who voted for it, and who voted against it.

The same is true of the legislation being voted on today.

However, the legislation you suggest would immediately be used to defeat those very members of the house who are fighting hardest for the rights and protections of American citizens and enforcement of the law. They would be demagogued mercilessly over the next two elections and cast as “child haters” and “Latino haters” and “anti- immigration” and ” anti-poor working people”, “heartless”, “fanatics” “racists” “xenophobes” “nativists” …etc.

There’s no point in ending the careers of those who are actually doing their best to protect the American citizens and the rule of law to make a point with such tough legislation as you suggested that has no hope of passage into law when the same benefit can be derived from less risky legislation that also makes some firm points, like Obama is breaking the law when he tries to use the EO to pass mass amnesty for 5 million or more adults.

thatsafactjack on August 1, 2014 at 3:33 PM

Doing the job the MSM doesn’t want to do:

EXCLUSIVE: ‘A lot of people die out here’ and ‘all this blood…is on Obama’s hands’: Shocking images show corpses of illegal immigrants left to die after border crossings

Rancher shares grotesque photos with MailOnline, saying Obama bears the blame for a rising death toll among illegal immigrants
Volunteer patrol network in south Texas has found 259 bodies in one county alone, maybe 20 percent of the actual body count
Border Patrol source concedes the agency has no idea how many are perishing between the border and official government checkpoints
Filmmaker says he warned Congress in 2007 that children were becoming drug cartels’ newest pawns on the border

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2712187/EXCLUSIVE-A-lot-people-die-blood-Obamas-hands-Shocking-images-corpses-illegal-immigrants-left-die-border-crossings.html

davidk on August 1, 2014 at 3:34 PM

He doesn’t five a damn about his party.

Schadenfreude on August 1, 2014 at 3:27 PM

No he doesn’t. Nor for just about anyone else but his majesty, King Barry. Time to crank out an EO to get these invaders immediate citizenship, federally approved housing, a boatload of taxpayer funded benefits and complete with automatic membership in Barry’s party in time to vote in November.

hawkeye54 on August 1, 2014 at 3:34 PM

Biggest concern of Obama’s:

“Isn’t someone gonna wish me a happy birfday?”

fogw on August 1, 2014 at 3:35 PM

Boehner on border: Obama has been completely AWOL – in fact he has made matter worse by flip-flopping on the 2008 law that fueled the crisis

canopfor on August 1, 2014 at 3:19 PM

I thot Obama was the only one that led from behind.

bluefox on August 1, 2014 at 3:35 PM

saying Obama bears the blame for a rising death toll among illegal immigrants

If only the GOP had given everything Bammy pled and begged for,this all could have been avoided.

/SNARK

hawkeye54 on August 1, 2014 at 3:36 PM

Schadenfreude on August 1, 2014 at 3:14 PM

A trifle, my friend. :)

thatsafactjack on August 1, 2014 at 3:37 PM

“Isn’t someone gonna wish me a happy birfday?”

fogw on August 1, 2014 at 3:35 PM

Fella, I’m wishing you something you won’t personally find happy nor even closely related to your birthday.

hawkeye54 on August 1, 2014 at 3:37 PM

Back to da Border Bill:

http://www.c-span.org/live/

canopfor on August 1, 2014 at 3:38 PM

Vickers, 64, told MailOnline on Wednesday that since 2012 his organization, the Texas Border Volunteers, has counted 259 dead bodies in his native Brooks County alone, including those of children.

‘And we’re probably only finding 20 per cent of them. A lot of people die out here.’

‘We find a hell of a lot of women,’ he said. ‘Three of the last ones who have died on my ranch have been women. We found a dead 12-year-old boy on my neighbor’s property.’

Some have the good fortune to find Vickers and his crew.

‘We’ve rescued some small children, quite a few,’ Vickers recalled. ‘One boy, 11 years old, was left behind 8 or 9 miles off the highway. He had no idea where he was.’ The border volunteers gave him water and arranged for U.S. Border Patrol agents to pick him up.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2712187/EXCLUSIVE-A-lot-people-die-blood-Obamas-hands-Shocking-images-corpses-illegal-immigrants-left-die-border-crossings.html

davidk on August 1, 2014 at 3:38 PM

canopfor on August 1, 2014 at 3:19 PM

I thot Obama was the only one that led from behind.

bluefox on August 1, 2014 at 3:35 PM

bluefox: Oh man,…yup,..Thank Gawd Its Friday:0

canopfor on August 1, 2014 at 3:39 PM

If the house did draft and pass everything on your list, what would such a bill realistically accomplish that the the two they’re voting on today won’t accomplish?

There’s no chance that the senate or Obama would pass the legislation you suggest, even if the house had the power to demand the changes you’d like to see.

All the legislation you suggest would realistically accomplish would be getting the names on record of who voted for it, and who voted against it.

The same is true of the legislation being voted on today.

However, the legislation you suggest would immediately be used to defeat those very members of the house who are fighting hardest for the rights and protections of American citizens and enforcement of the law. They would be demagogued mercilessly over the next two elections and cast as “child haters” and “Latino haters” and “anti- immigration” and ” anti-poor working people”, “heartless”, “fanatics” “racists” “xenophobes” “nativists” …etc.

There’s no point in ending the careers of those who are actually doing their best to protect the American citizens and the rule of law to make a point with such tough legislation as you suggested that has no hope of passage into law when the same benefit can be derived from less risky legislation that also makes some firm points, like Obama is breaking the law when he tries to use the EO to pass mass amnesty for 5 million or more adults.

thatsafactjack on August 1, 2014 at 3:33 PM

Your whole entire post is a prime example of why our side is always on the losing end and why our country is going down the toilet faster than crap thru a goose.

Instead of actually wanting to fight and destroy those who are hell bent themselves on destroying the republic you just want to compromise with them. How has that worked out so far?

bgibbs1000 on August 1, 2014 at 3:40 PM

I guess the Russkies haven’t come across this collection yet: Light in the Loafers
slickwillie2001 on August 1, 2014 at 3:31 PM

Here’s another one

Y’all can thank me later ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on August 1, 2014 at 3:40 PM

Joel Gehrke at NRO reports:

President Obama said that he’s “going to have to act alone” on the border crisis.

“I’m going to have to act alone because we don’t have enough resources,” Obama told reporters during a Friday press conference. “In the end, the challenge I have right now is that they are not able to act even on what they say their priorities are.”

Obama faulted House Republicans for not yet passing a border bill — the bill is expected to pass this evening after a dramatic last minute negotiation — that he described as something they initially supported.

The conceit of his response to a question about whether he is blameless for the political gridlock is that Democrats refused to support changing a 2008 human trafficking law that Obama’s team initially said needed modification. As a result, Senate Democrats refused to back a border bill including such a change, which House Republicans said was essential.

“When it comes to the humanitarian crisis on our southern border, President Obama has been completely AWOL – in fact, he has made matter worse by flip-flopping on the 2008 law that fueled the crisis,” Michael Steel, a spokesman for House Speaker John Boehner (R., Ohio), said in response to Obama’s remarks. “Senate Democrats have left town without acting on his request for a border supplemental. Right now, House Republicans are the only ones still working to address this crisis.”

onlineanalyst on August 1, 2014 at 3:42 PM

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/11004971/Russian-deputy-PM-mocks-Obama-by-tweeting-unmanly-photo-of-president.html

davidk on August 1, 2014 at 2:17 PM

I guess the Russkies haven’t come across this collection yet: Light in the Loafers

slickwillie2001 on August 1, 2014 at 3:31 PM

The most powerful man in the free world.

davidk on August 1, 2014 at 3:42 PM

Oh Oh,….Racist???

https://twitter.com/markknoller

Mark Knoller @markknoller · 27s

On Ebola: Pres Obama says Africans coming to the US for his summit next week will be screened before leaving home and on arrival in US.

canopfor on August 1, 2014 at 3:42 PM

bgibbs1000 on August 1, 2014 at 3:40 PM

I’m realistic about what can be accomplished through the House of Representatives, what constitutes viable legislation, the procedures to passage, and the what result of passage of such bills might be.

How has ranting and doing nothing worked out for you so far?

thatsafactjack on August 1, 2014 at 3:44 PM

“Isn’t someone gonna wish me a happy birfday?”
fogw on August 1, 2014 at 3:35 PM
Fella, I’m wishing you something you won’t personally find happy nor even closely related to your birthday.
hawkeye54 on August 1, 2014 at 3:37 PM
I’m wishing he would get bitten by a russels viper that’s venom causes one’s manhood to shrink to baby size.

sorrowen on August 1, 2014 at 3:44 PM

0bama has saved us!

Paraphrased:

He has added 1.2 million jobs so far this year..
Best numbers since the wonderful days of the late 1990s, he said.

He didn’t mention that 78% of them are servants, illegal alien invaders, and 18% of them are for lawyers for illegal alien invaders.

And the rest being part time private sector jobs.

And also he saved the world by working with Russia to make Iran and Ukraine into Free States or something.

And if Putin does what 0bama wants, he will help Russia grow its economy too.

Punk ranted about the republicans in congress.

Said he will do what he wants, since they won’t act, but they are stupid to complain that he does what he wants, because it is their fault for not doing what he wants.

He is the only one with common sense. Everyone else just plays political games to get the TEA party radicals to like them.

He also said that 80% of Americans (peasants) agree with his plan to secure the border and take care of the broken immigration system… and 80% of the Republicans in the House and Senate agree too.

But that damn 20% TEA Party racist xenophobe pool won’t let the good ones do what needs to be done.

The Eunuch in Chief then biatched about not being asked about his birthday (God, why wasn’t his mom more of a leftist?) and his Martha’s Vineyard vacation…and then he showed the land and the world a big finger and departed.

You’re welcome!

Schadenfreude on August 1, 2014 at 3:45 PM

An official in the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency confirmed that in the month of June more than 4,000 illegal immigrants were apprehended at or near that checkpoint.

About 82 per cent of them were so-called ‘OTM’ border crossers – ‘Other Than Mexican.’

More than 400 were children.

The federal government doesn’t keep statistics on how many dead immigrants’ bodies are recovered, the DHS official told MailOnline.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2712187/EXCLUSIVE-A-lot-people-die-blood-Obamas-hands-Shocking-images-corpses-illegal-immigrants-left-die-border-crossings.html

davidk on August 1, 2014 at 3:45 PM

Zeke Miller @ZekeJMiller · 1m

The DNC is now considering a rule to remove delegates who pres cand feels would be disruptive or acting against interests of Dem party.

canopfor on August 1, 2014 at 3:46 PM

Pete Sessions said they are going to pass this bill and work with the Senate. Then come back to the House if necessary. That’s what we’re here for..

Hold your backs, Americans.

BBL

bluefox on August 1, 2014 at 3:48 PM

bluefox: Oh man,…yup,..Thank Gawd Its Friday:0

canopfor on August 1, 2014 at 3:39 PM

Me too, I think. Maybe not when we see what this betrayal is going to cost us.

Later..

bluefox on August 1, 2014 at 3:50 PM

Zeke Miller @ZekeJMiller · 1m
The DNC is now considering a rule to remove delegates who pres cand feels would be disruptive or acting against interests of Dem party.
canopfor on August 1, 2014 at 3:46 PM

OK…hot coffee through the nose is neither pretty, comfortable or clean… >:-(

[grabs sham-wow and Windex...grabs Kleenex...wipe, spritz, blow...blow, spritz, wipe...]

Newtie and the Beauty on August 1, 2014 at 3:51 PM

I’m realistic about what can be accomplished through the House of Representatives, what constitutes viable legislation, the procedures to passage, and the what result of passage of such bills might be.

How has ranting and doing nothing worked out for you so far?

thatsafactjack on August 1, 2014 at 3:44 PM

You asked a question and I answered. It wasn’t a rant and it wasn’t a BS do nothing compromise with the enemy. Again this isn’t rocket science and the majority of a Americans if truth be known probably want the same damn thing.

bgibbs1000 on August 1, 2014 at 3:53 PM

bgibbs1000 on August 1, 2014 at 3:53 PM

I never mentioned “compromising with the enemy”. I simply said that both bills would only accomplish the same end result in terms of any positive results and what you proposed would cost us those congressmen who are actually doing what we sent them to congress to do. I don’t think we can afford to lose them, particularly since Obama is most likely going to pull the trigger on that amnesty by fiat if Reid and the senate don’t succeed in getting a bill with the Gang of Eight marked up and passed through the house first.

The result of either amnesty would actually be about the same, since the notion that any GOP lawmaker would vote to strip those granted work permits under Obama’s fiat of the right to remain and work after two years is virtually nil. Green cards would soon follow.

Further, it’s against existing law, by virtue of existing international agreements and treaties, to mine our border with Mexico. Such agreements and treaties would have to be renegotiated in order for such to be lawful, or a state of war with Mexico or another entity would have to be declared to make it lawful before such mining of the border would be lawful.

Either you support the rule of law, or you don’t.

thatsafactjack on August 1, 2014 at 4:12 PM

WOW!

The Washington Post has discovered the House of Representatives’ “Power of the Purse” actually can have a positive impact.

Limited funds may force “Refugee Advocates” to prioritize how they spend TAX PAYER dollars.

Feds shifting money from refugees to help kids flooding border

Refugee advocates have launched a frantic campaign to urge Congress to approve President Obama’s request for $3.7 billion in emergency supplemental funding to deal with the thousands of Central American children pouring into the country, because current policy risks pitting those children against existing refugees in a scrap for federal assistance.

In a move noticed by few outside refugee circles, the Department of Health and Human Services’ Office of Refugee Resettlement in June notified Congress it was shifting $94 million from refugee services programs to those dealing with the emergency on the border. The administration’s request for emergency funding includes $1.8 billion for HHS, which would replenish the refugee funds.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/07/31/feds-shifting-money-from-refugees-to-help-kids-flooding-border/

Memo to Congress:

Stop sending money to “Refugee Advocates,” and they will stop sending for more refugees.

wren on August 1, 2014 at 4:37 PM

So the “old ones get a pass…this bill only applies to “new” criminal aliens?

This is the same old crap. The premise is that Obama has the power to deem the illegal, legal. But he’ll willfully limit that power.
He.Does.Not.Have the power to deem the illegal, legal.
Falling for the same old crap. Let them set the field, and we hop around.

Mimzey on August 1, 2014 at 4:47 PM

FYI – Ann Cocoran is doing an excellent job of sharing information about the invasion of our southern border at her RefugeeResettlementWatch Blog.

Ann’s perspective on how the border invasion relates to the EVEN LARGER issue of the Office of Refugee Resettlement setting up refugee communities across the country is extremely valuable.

Here is the link:

http://refugeeresettlementwatch.wordpress.com/

We all need to be more informed about the refugee resettlement issue, which may not have hit our home towns YET.

wren on August 1, 2014 at 4:48 PM

House starting on their “new & improved” version of the bill.

http://www.c-span.org/video/?320818-2/us-house-debate-border-security

bluefox on August 1, 2014 at 5:58 PM

Why are we commenting on a day old thread here relinquished to the left side of old news when this story is still unfolding…

Hotair has plenty of stories but this doesn’t seem to be a priority anymore..

celt on August 1, 2014 at 6:09 PM

Amnesty

Brock Robamney on August 1, 2014 at 6:15 PM

Ol’ John Boehner tried to slip in Obama’s AMNESTY through the back door and Conservatives stopped it? Good!!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Realdemocrat1 on August 1, 2014 at 6:59 PM

Just further confirmation that the GOP House Leadership is in desperate need for new blood. Perhaps one of the ladies of the caucus could show them what leadership looks like when it has “balls”.

Another Drew on August 1, 2014 at 7:35 PM

Rep Michele Bachmann R-MN on re-worked GOP border bill: “I was a ‘Hell no,’ and now I can be for this bill today”

— Jamie Dupree (@jamiedupree) August 1, 2014

And the MSM has been running with her quote on radio news shorts today to make it look like even the tea party loves this. Bachmann handed it to the MSM. To think she ran for President

the bill is chump bait

The crux of the bill sends hundreds of millions of dollars to immigration agencies to house the illegal immigrant children and families surging across the border, and makes changes to a 2008 law that made it difficult to deport children from Central America.

In order to attract enough support, Republicans also added in another bill that would halt President Obama’s non-deportation policy for so-called Dreamers, the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program.

If we had gone home yesterday, I think that would have been a disaster,” said Rep. Phil Gingrey, Georgia Republican. “There is a humanitarian issue and you can’t explain all the nuances and connect every dot to all of 7,000 constituents. They are going to read the newspaper and they’re going to say, ‘Oh, those Republicans went home, didn’t have a vote and now they are going on a five-week vacation.’

So is that how they sold it, or are these the talking points they handed out?

Of course the second bill dies like a cockroach. The first bill might go to committee and become – the Senate bill. Especially if the RINOs can ace the primaries about to happen. After the primaries, they can dump bill 2, and morph bill 1, and who cares how they vote on amnesty then, if their boys win the primaries

It is amazingly prescient that James Kirkpatrick yesterday wrote:

As a way to honor Eric Cantor’s last day as Majority Leader in the House, Speaker John Boehner did his best to help Barack Obama replace the Republican base with teenagers from Central America. Unfortunately for him, the base has identified mass immigration as the critical issue in American politics and brought enough pressure to prevent the bill being brought to the floor. The danger now: the stupider GOP congresscritters, believing they have to “do something” before recess, will hand Barack Obama a political victory even when he is desperately weak.

God bless his heart, he knows stupid

entagor on August 1, 2014 at 9:07 PM

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