Obama overrules Senate, declares CIA’s Bush-era tactics ‘torture’

posted at 4:41 pm on August 1, 2014 by Noah Rothman

President Barack Obama was halfway out the door, joking with his counterparts in the press that he had not yet been wished a happy birthday, when a chorus of uniform questions from the assembled reporters forced him to address the recent admission that CIA Director John Brennan’s intelligence agency had improperly spied on the Senate.

On Thursday, the CIA admitted that intelligence operatives tapped into computers linked to staffers with the Senate Intelligence Committee in March. Those computers contained documents pertaining to an ongoing investigation into the agency’s Bush-era enhanced interrogation techniques.

The report, which is set to be declassified, already has human rights activists expressing frustration over the fact that it reportedly refused to call the tactics CIA operatives engaged in “torture.” The Daily Beat’s Josh Rogin and Eli Lake explained why: “[T]he report will not accuse the CIA outright of ‘torture,’ an accusation that could have political, diplomatic, legal, and even criminal implications,” their dispatch read.

They noted that a secret version of the Senate report has already been seen by key officials, but a declassified version will likely leak out almost immediately after it begins circulating around Washington.

The president chose not to wait and, amid a response to the serious allegation that the CIA spied on Congress while the agency was being investigated, declared that the United States of America “tortured some folks.”

“We did some things that were contrary to our values,” the president added.

On multiple occasions in the past, the president has expressed his personal opinion that the United States engaged in torture in the wake of the 9/11 terror attacks. This time, the president was speaking on behalf of a separate and co-equal branch of the U.S. government.

“Several members of the committee this week declined to comment about the still-classified contents of the report, but said that the path forward for congressional action or even criminal follow-up would be determined by what details make it into the unclassified version of the document,” the Daily Beast’s report continued. Surely, those criminal implications are only more pressing now in the wake of Obama’s statement.

Moreover, the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence’s Republicans had reportedly been warning the State Department to prepare American facilities overseas for the release of the enhanced interrogations report. They warned that even the cautiously worded findings could go off like a bomb in the Arab World, and American diplomatic personnel should be prepared for any resulting fallout.

“On several occasions, the White House and the State Department have told the Committee, both verbally and in writing, that a series of security steps will be needed to safeguard the lives of U.S. personnel overseas and the facilities in which they work,” the senators wrote.

If the report, which apparently did not use the term “torture,” might have inflamed sentiment in the Muslim World, Obama’s blunt declaration that the United States engaged in torture will surely have a more significant impact.

Obama’s statement is a momentous development, and it is likely to have far-reaching implications. And by the way, no one is talking about the CIA spying on the Senate anymore. Funny how that worked out.


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“We did some things that were contrary to our values,” the president added.

Our VALUES are the Constitution and the rule of law, which you don’t give a crap about.

Obama also said “any fair-minded person” would agree with him that what we did post-9/11 was “torture”. Translation — anyone who disgrees with Obama is not “fair-minded”. But that’s been his position … “all along”.

LashRambo on August 1, 2014 at 4:45 PM

The King knows all.

freedomfirst on August 1, 2014 at 4:45 PM

You what is going to the worse torture? The 2 1/2 years. So much pain.

Oil Can on August 1, 2014 at 4:46 PM

I’m tortured every single time Obama speaks or I see his ever-preening mug.

Resist We Much on August 1, 2014 at 4:47 PM

I’ll tell you what’s torture – having to live under King Putt.

Ward Cleaver on August 1, 2014 at 4:47 PM

Every one of his utterances is torture to me!

His image is torture to me.

Shut up, GTFO and give me blessed relief!

freedomfirst on August 1, 2014 at 4:47 PM

Face it. the little dictator has no regard for the rule of law and will do whatever he pleases. We now have a one branch government with a self appointed kingly ruler.

rplat on August 1, 2014 at 4:47 PM

Only a handful (6) comments so far at the ABC link. 5 of them are laughing at O’bama.

Here’s the other one:

I recall trials after WW 2 in Germany…

“BushHitler!”

Del Dolemonte on August 1, 2014 at 4:48 PM

I’m tortured every single time Obama speaks or I see his ever-preening mug.

Resist We Much on August 1, 2014 at 4:47 PM

Obama is the disgraced John Edwards, except his mistress is himself.

LashRambo on August 1, 2014 at 4:48 PM

Sorry, RWM.
Same thought, milliseconds later.

freedomfirst on August 1, 2014 at 4:48 PM

BREAKING:

Jimmy Carter dies laughing at home

BobMbx on August 1, 2014 at 4:50 PM

Speak the truth, Mr.President. Give ‘em hell, King Barry!

Obama said, “In the immediate aftermath of 9/11, we did some things that were wrong. We did a whole lot of things that were right, but we tortured some folks.

“I think it’s useful for me to end by just reminding folks that in my first term, if I had a press conference like this, typically, everybody would want to ask about the economy, and how come jobs weren’t being created, and how come the housing market is still bad, and why isn’t it working?” he said.

“You know what? What we did worked, and the economy is better. And when I say that we have just had six months of more than 200,000 jobs that hasn’t happened in 17 years, that shows you the power of persistence.”

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/obama-comments-on-cia-scandal-admits-we-tortured-some-folks/

Ned Pepper on August 1, 2014 at 4:51 PM

Well, that should rouse the terrorists to redouble their efforts to attack US interests. Trying for a Benghazi II or perhaps another Boston Marathon bombing, Mr. Anti-American President?

CrustyB on August 1, 2014 at 4:51 PM

Cue Dr. Klahn.

“Now take him to be tortured.”

Steve Eggleston on August 1, 2014 at 4:52 PM

Well, that should rouse the terrorists to redouble their efforts to attack US interests. Trying for a Benghazi II or perhaps another Boston Marathon bombing, Mr. Anti-American President?

CrustyB on August 1, 2014 at 4:51 PM

Peanuts for Team SCOAMT.

Steve Eggleston on August 1, 2014 at 4:53 PM

Does this open the door for Bush era officials to be prosecuted? Is this where he is going?

esr1951 on August 1, 2014 at 4:53 PM

Breaking: Ned Pepper ran out of towels.

Schadenfreude on August 1, 2014 at 4:53 PM

So, Obola just accused the USA of committing war crimes.

aquaviva on August 1, 2014 at 4:54 PM

‘tortured some folks’

‘Some folks’ being:

Khalid Sheik-Mohammed, the mastermind of 9/11, who later admitted it was only because of the waterboarding that he talked.

Abu Zubaydah, a senior Al Qaeda member.

Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri, a senior Al Qaeda member and mastermind of the attempted bombing of the USS Sullivans as part of the 2000 millennium attack plots, the bombing of the USS Cole, and the attack on the Limburg tanker.

I soooooo don’t care what happened to them.

Resist We Much on August 1, 2014 at 4:55 PM

Does this open the door for Bush era officials to be prosecuted? Is this where he is going?

esr1951 on August 1, 2014 at 4:53 PM

Remember, for this crowd, it’s not “by any means necessary”, but “by every means possible”.

Steve Eggleston on August 1, 2014 at 4:56 PM

Ned, get up off of your knees and wipe your mouth.

You’re so pathetic and embarrassing.

Resist We Much on August 1, 2014 at 4:56 PM

It is torture paying for Air Force One and all the Secret Service personnel to cart this sack of crap all over our great country,and to pay for his endless golf and fund raisers and vacations.

birdwatcher on August 1, 2014 at 4:57 PM

Does this open the door for Bush era officials to be prosecuted? Is this where he is going?

esr1951 on August 1, 2014 at 4:53 PM

He’d better be careful. War crimes charges have already been filed against him at The Hague and, who knows, the next President might prosecute him for assassinating American citizens.

Resist We Much on August 1, 2014 at 4:58 PM

Does this open the door for Bush era officials to be prosecuted? Is this where he is going?

Wouldn’t put it past them…

sandee on August 1, 2014 at 4:58 PM

Ned Pepper on August 1, 2014 at 4:51 PM

How did the first week of the job search go, Neddy?

For those who missed it last week:

BuzzFeed Fires Editor for Plagiarism

The hot website BuzzFeed fired politics editor Benny Johnson, saying it found “40 instances of sentences or phrases copied word for word from other sites.”

BuzzFeed editor-in-chief Ben Smith announced Friday night that Johnson was dismissed after they had confirmed many instances of plagiarism.

-snip-

Twitter users earlier this week began pointing our examples where Johnson appeared to have copied or reworded text from the work of others.

Smith apologized, adding, “We are deeply embarrassed and sorry to have misled you. Benny’s editors — I, Katherine Miller, John Stanton, Shani Hilton, and McKay Coppins — bear real responsibility.” They plan to add editor’s notes to every instance of plagiarism.

“IT BURNS!”

Del Dolemonte on August 1, 2014 at 4:58 PM

“I tortured Bin Laden” — obama

Schadenfreude on August 1, 2014 at 4:58 PM

Resist We Much on August 1, 2014 at 4:55 PM

I was thinking if Sasha and Malia were at risk, Obama would be right there with “enhanced interrogation techniques” to get the information he needed. Because with Obama, it’s all about him and what he thinks, and feels, and wants, like when he misspeaks about “our values”. “Our values” are in fact objective measures that apply equally to everyone — the Constitution and the equal application of the law, NOT what Obama thinks is good and right. This isn’t a dictatorship, not even a benign or benevolent dictatorship.

LashRambo on August 1, 2014 at 4:59 PM

Breaking: Ned Pecker ran out of towels.

Today’s trolls are pretty lame, unamusing as well.

bernzright777 on August 1, 2014 at 5:00 PM

I really want 0bama to milk this for all he thinks its worth. And then some.

cozmo on August 1, 2014 at 5:00 PM

Easier to just blow them up with drones shooting missiles.

Baggi on August 1, 2014 at 5:02 PM

That’s nice. They aren’t citizens that are privileged to have constitutional protections. They are enemy combatants with current connections to their organizations.

A little “torture” is fine on them.

nobar on August 1, 2014 at 5:05 PM

Does this open the door for Bush era officials to be prosecuted? Is this where he is going?

esr1951 on August 1, 2014 at 4:53 PM

He’d better be careful. War crimes charges have already been filed against him at The Hague and, who knows, the next President might prosecute him for assassinating American citizens.

Resist We Much on August 1, 2014 at 4:58 PM

Good luck finding any news about those charges on the Democrat Search Engine Google! I only found a handful of links to that story from fall 2013, and when I clicked on the first few, magically Google could not find the servers!

But apparently a bunch of Egyptian lawyers were the ones filing the charges.

Did find an opinion piece from the Far-Left UK Guardian though, and the author opines that if O’bama’s policies violated international law, he should be charged with war crimes.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/nov/05/obama-administration-drone-strikes-war-crimes

Final paragraph:

Once again, the United States stands at a crossroad. Either it can immunize President Obama and members of his administration from accountability, as it did President Bush and his administration. As seen, this route exposes the hypocrisy of the administration’s counter-terrorism policy to full display. Or the US can subject its leaders to the same standards it demands of others.

Del Dolemonte on August 1, 2014 at 5:06 PM

Who will rid us of this troublesome King?

ConstantineXI on August 1, 2014 at 5:07 PM

this is HUGE. Why hasn’t anyone picked up that now our previous president and the his administration can be tried for war crimes. Obama has just made his political opponents enemies of the state.

This is setting up a huge dictatorial takeover of the government and makes us on the other side of the political spectrum supporters of torture, something we can be incarcerated for.

Skwor on August 1, 2014 at 5:08 PM

The President is setting some very unsettling precedents, many of which may, like a rabid dog, turn and bite the owner.

The “intellectual giant” is as short-sighted as he is verbose.

hillbillyjim on August 1, 2014 at 5:10 PM

Torture is listening to this buffoon.

HornetSting on August 1, 2014 at 5:12 PM

Ned’s brain hurts.

So does Obama’s…but we have to deal w/ the latter.

22044 on August 1, 2014 at 5:13 PM

I don’t give a fuck about water boardering some barbaric terrorist!

sorrowen on August 1, 2014 at 5:15 PM

coun·ter·part (kountr-pärt)
n.
1.
a. One that closely resembles another.

b. One that has the same functions and characteristics as another; a corresponding person or thing: Their foreign minister is the counterpart of our secretary of state.

President Barack Obama was halfway out the door, joking with his counterparts in the press

.
I sorta got stuck on this so if someone can identify the members of the press having the same functions as the POTUS, I might read further.

News2Use on August 1, 2014 at 5:16 PM

I don’t give a rats ass about waterboarding a savage….

sorrowen on August 1, 2014 at 5:16 PM

Keep publicly pissing on the CIA you miserable little walking sphincter. I’ll get the popcorn.

cornbred on August 1, 2014 at 5:18 PM

water boarding is not torture.
its really shi**y experience that I would never want to go through (so was 2 terms of this potus but I digress…) but its not torture.
hell I personally put LRRP candidates through situations almost as bad overseas as a guard during their training.

with that being said I can see, from my experiences, where it could be easy for the wrong person to cross the line into actual torture. we saw this with some guards, those who enjoyed it were pulled off the training and those who didn’t enjoy it were left to carry on. this is why its not a common practice and not just any person is allowed to do it.

dmacleo on August 1, 2014 at 5:20 PM

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/obama-comments-on-cia-scandal-admits-we-tortured-some-folks/

Ded Pecker on August 1, 2014 at 4:51 PM

Who left the door to the obama masturbatorium unlocked? Looks like Ned escaped again.

Sing daisy for us HAL. You know you want to.

HumpBot Salvation on August 1, 2014 at 5:21 PM

“I think it’s useful for me to end by just reminding folks that in my first term, if I had a press conference like this, typically, everybody would want to ask about the economy, and how come jobs weren’t being created, and how come the housing market is still bad, and why isn’t it working?” he said.

“You know what? What we did worked, and the economy is better. And when I say that we have just had six months of more than 200,000 jobs that hasn’t happened in 17 years, that shows you the power of persistence.”

Ned Pepper on August 1, 2014 at 4:51 PM

OK, so if the economy is just steaming along now, then why is “King Barry” dissing Rethugnicans consistently for not doing anything to help him fix our ailing economy?

Q: What do Ned Pepper and King Barry have in common?
A: They both lie

NOMOBO on August 1, 2014 at 5:22 PM

Keep publicly pissing on the CIA you miserable little walking sphincter. I’ll get the popcorn.

cornbred on August 1, 2014 at 5:18 PM

Obama is an expert at finding opportunities to piss on the US. Like when he visited Malaysia, for a US President to visit the head of that country for the first time in 40 or 50 years, and he brings up Donald Sterling, the NBA team owner, and his supposed racism, and how much further the US has to go in race relations. I mean, it just boggles the mind the lengths he will go to denigrate and just put down this country.

LashRambo on August 1, 2014 at 5:23 PM

Keep publicly pissing on the CIA you miserable little walking sphincter. I’ll get the popcorn.

cornbred on August 1, 2014 at 5:18 PM

You owe me a screen.

HornetSting on August 1, 2014 at 5:25 PM

At some point, a president stops campaigning, abandons political rhetoric and becomes the countries elected leader. He works in the interests of all Americans.

Mr. Obama has never become the leader of all Americans because he doesn’t want to be. And statements such as this prove it.

Marcus Traianus on August 1, 2014 at 5:25 PM

coun·ter·part (kountr-pärt)
n.
1.
a. One that closely resembles another.
b. One that has the same functions and characteristics as another; a corresponding person or thing: Their foreign minister is the counterpart of our secretary of state.
President Barack Obama was halfway out the door, joking with his counterparts in the press
.
I sorta got stuck on this so if someone can identify the members of the press having the same functions as the POTUS, I might read further.
News2Use on August 1, 2014 at 5:16 PM

I thinks 1a is the correct definition. Think “fellow travelers.” Or perhaps “like-minded traitors.”

cornbred on August 1, 2014 at 5:27 PM

At some point, a president stops campaigning, abandons political rhetoric and becomes the countries elected leader. He works in the interests of all Americans.

Mr. Obama has never become the leader of all Americans because he doesn’t want to be. And statements such as this prove it.

Marcus Traianus on August 1, 2014 at 5:25 PM

Where’s Obama’s ability to reflect on himself and his actions, to soberly, objectively look at what he’s attempted and what he’s accomplished? When his reign is over, and someone asks him to grade himself on how he did, you KNOW what he’ll say. He’ll say he thinks he did a pretty darn good job, without any awareness that the truth might be otherwise. And when I hear him say that, hopefully I’m not drinking a beverage, because it will all just squirt out of my nose.

LashRambo on August 1, 2014 at 5:30 PM

“I think it’s useful for me to end by just reminding folks that in my first term, if I had a press conference like this, typically, everybody would want to ask about the economy, and how come jobs weren’t being created, and how come the housing market is still bad, and why isn’t it working?” he said.

ooopsy

In July, average hourly earnings ticked up just a penny to $24.45. That was just 2 percent more than it was 12 months earlier and was slightly below inflation of 2.1 percent. In a healthy economy, wages before inflation would rise 3.5 percent to 4 percent annually.

More ooopsy

Richard Moody, chief economist at Regions Financial Corporation, notes that 7.5 million Americans who are working part time would like full-time work, up from 7.3 million in January. An additional 2.2 million have stopped searching but would take a job if it was available.

On top of the 9.7 million people the government counts as unemployed, an additional 9.7 million either want a job or would like more hours. Combined, the three categories make up an “underemployment” rate of 12.2 percent.

That “is still far above any level that could be considered normal in a healthy labor market,” Moody said.

HumpBot Salvation on August 1, 2014 at 5:33 PM

The president chose not to wait and, amid a response to the serious allegation that the CIA spied on Congress while the agency was being investigated, declared that the United States of America “tortured some folks.”

“We did some things that were contrary to our values,” the president added.

The CIA water-boarded three Al Qaeda terrorists in Gitmo? How many Americans were tortured by Al Qaeda? Including those who burned to death in the top floors of the World Trade Center on 9/11/2001?

In response to Al Qaeda’s mass-torture of innocent Americans, what the CIA might have done in Gitmo is very tame in comparison.

Steve Z on August 1, 2014 at 5:43 PM

“We did some things that were contrary to our values,” the president added.

Is Barry getting confused with Sharia law again?

albill on August 1, 2014 at 5:44 PM

Dunking a terrorist in water is against our vaules?? You blow them to hell all the time with drones.

sorrowen on August 1, 2014 at 5:46 PM

The CIA water-boarded three Al Qaeda terrorists in Gitmo? How many Americans were tortured by Al Qaeda? Including those who burned to death in the top floors of the World Trade Center on 9/11/2001?

In response to Al Qaeda’s mass-torture of innocent Americans, what the CIA might have done in Gitmo is very tame in comparison.

Steve Z on August 1, 2014 at 5:43 PM

It’s curious, the tape of Bill Clinton on 9/10/01 speaking in Australia, he said he could have gotten Bin Laden earlier, but it would have entailed killing some 300 innocents in the process, in Kandahar, and that would “have made us as bad as them”. I believe Clinton’s moral calculus is a bit off there.

LashRambo on August 1, 2014 at 5:48 PM

If the report, which apparently did not use the term “torture,” might have inflamed sentiment in the Muslim World, Obama’s blunt declaration that the United States engaged in torture will surely have a more significant impact.

Obama’s statement is a momentous development, and it is likely to have far-reaching implications. And by the way, no one is talking about the CIA spying on the Senate anymore. Funny how that worked out.

bams blunt declaration is intentional.

Because:

No riots about gun control, yet.
No riots on border, yet.
No riots over Middle East, yet.
Hamas isn’t wiping out the Isralies as planned (US gave Hamas 47 million dollars, gifting)
Btw, if Qatar is so gun-ho for Hamas, let them fund them totally, keep us out of the equation.)
bams numbers are tanking
Nothing getting moved in the Senate
Nothing for dims to sink their teeth in to get the dim mojo machine going for elections
but wait!!!! Bring up a report six years after Bush leaves office and the mere name of
Bush will get the low infos fired up. If news of torture fires up the ME, even better.
Hmmm, torture verses beheadings, who’d be the Biggest Loser?
CIA spying, Benghazi, gun running, illegal aliens, IRS, just irritants for the admin.
Btw, glad the State Dept. is being warned to give a heads up to diplomats overseas. Now, if they’d just follow through, gun running or not.

31giddyup on August 1, 2014 at 5:49 PM

Ned’s a little boy in search of a zero…err hero. Hilarious. What a little little person.

CW on August 1, 2014 at 5:52 PM

I would give a rats ass about torture if I felt like we’d actually performed any, but we didn’t. I’m very cool with making terrorists miserable and threatening to do to them what they do to everyone else. And the biggest reason I’d concern myself is what it would do to the man executing the torture.

Why is it we bust tail to retrieve our people that go down in the field, again?

I don’t give a rats ass about waterboarding a savage….

sorrowen on August 1, 2014 at 5:16 PM

Recon5 on August 1, 2014 at 5:52 PM

I’d love to torture all the commies and marxists in our gov’t for what they are doing to this country today.

tim c on August 1, 2014 at 5:53 PM

Obama forgot he wasn’t in the Islamic world; he loves to apologize, either from Cairo or Malaysia.

LashRambo on August 1, 2014 at 5:57 PM

Idiotic. Irresponsible.

This man has absolutely no respect for the position he holds. He has no concept of his duties and responsibilities but uses it to gratify his ego without regard for the fallout.

Could a smaller man have been made President?

novaculus on August 1, 2014 at 5:59 PM

Idiotic. Irresponsible.

This man has absolutely no respect for the position he holds. He has no concept of his duties and responsibilities but uses it to gratify his ego without regard for the fallout.

Could a smaller man have been made President?

novaculus on August 1, 2014 at 5:59 PM

When he criticizes those around him, whether it’s those he disagrees with or their policies, he makes himself bigger in his mind. That’s all there is to it. Yes, it’s about him and his ego. No, it’s not about us or the country. He’s a recruiting tool for Al Qaeda. You don’t think they’ll cut and paste his words into an Al Qaeda recruiting video?

LashRambo on August 1, 2014 at 6:12 PM

Ned Pepper on August 1, 2014 at 4:51 PM

I think its creepy to see somebody masturbate in public like Ned does.
*shudder*

And btw, anybody who claims to be a smartest-man-in-the-room-Harvard-graduate-genius and can’t construct a better sentence than this

And when I say that we have just had six months of more than 200,000 jobs that hasn’t happened in 17 years

deserves to be waterboarded.

Dolce Far Niente on August 1, 2014 at 6:17 PM

If the President thinks so strongly that this was torture, why doesn’t he bring the CIA people who did it to justice? After all, he is the leader of the executive branch — the branch which is responsible for prosecuting things like torture….

Pure political posturing.

unclesmrgol on August 1, 2014 at 6:27 PM

Obama is the chief high priest of his own personality cult. Rarely has such epic incompetence and impenetrable narcissism merged so seamlessly.

sulla on August 1, 2014 at 6:37 PM

Where’s Obama’s ability to reflect on himself and his actions, to soberly, objectively look at what he’s attempted and what he’s accomplished? When his reign is over, and someone asks him to grade himself on how he did, you KNOW what he’ll say. He’ll say he thinks he did a pretty darn good job, without any awareness that the truth might be otherwise. And when I hear him say that, hopefully I’m not drinking a beverage, because it will all just squirt out of my nose.

My sentiments, too. But would you mind stepping back a few if I happen to be in front of you?

Thanks!

crankybutt on August 1, 2014 at 6:42 PM

Every Demo of note in Congress signed off on that “torture” when they thought their asses were on the line.

We did some things that were contrary to our values

What, Apaches and Iroquois aren’t Americans?

PS Which “our” does he mean? I’ll bet Hamas and IS does that stuff all the time.

formwiz on August 1, 2014 at 6:44 PM

Obama is the chief high priest of his own personality cult. Rarely has such epic incompetence and impenetrable narcissism merged so seamlessly.

sulla on August 1, 2014 at 6:37 PM

Not really.

Look at Lurch, Joe, etc.

formwiz on August 1, 2014 at 6:45 PM

Maliciously incompetent.

MT on August 1, 2014 at 6:46 PM

There wasn’t quite enough torture if you ask me.

docflash on August 1, 2014 at 6:47 PM

And when I say that we have just had six months of more than 200,000 jobs that hasn’t happened in 17 years

New unemployment benefit applications continue at a pace of about 300,000 A WEEK!! New jobs, around 200,000 a MONTH!!! Why is no one doing the math here?

If the data were so great, how come the rate CLIMBED a bit to 6.2%!!

crankybutt on August 1, 2014 at 6:49 PM

And by the way, no one is talking about the CIA spying on the Senate anymore. Funny how that worked out.

Par for the course.

Two Ebola patients shipped to the US. Nobody’s talking about the diseased illegals coming in now. Funny how that worked out.

The Rogue Tomato on August 1, 2014 at 6:50 PM

Just depressing

The dems dont care about the country. They think they can do a better job than lenin and group
Because they are “educated”

Its all about the power. The founders must be spinning in their graves

disguted by the elites on August 1, 2014 at 7:02 PM

Right on.

And as a coincidence, I just published this post on TPNN: http://www.tpnn.com/2014/08/01/thank-god-todays-left-was-not-around-during-world-war-ii/

Opposite Day on August 1, 2014 at 7:12 PM

President Precious never misses an opportunity to hear his own voice.

Another Drew on August 1, 2014 at 7:27 PM

And by the way, no one is talking about the CIA spying on the Senate anymore. Funny how that worked out.

Or that Senate staffers downloaded files that they did not have permission to do so, and would be a crime if done by someone outside the legislature (and should be a crime for them too).

Another Drew on August 1, 2014 at 7:30 PM

Not really.

Look at Lurch, Joe, etc.

Before Obama, Lurch and Joe were mere fellow senators – a nuisance to our republic, but limited in the damage they could do. Who put them in their current positions?

sulla on August 1, 2014 at 7:55 PM

joking with his counterparts in the press that he had not yet been wished a happy birthday

J.B. Say on August 1, 2014 at 8:06 PM

What kind of Values does this jerk have???? He never condemns the atrocities of the muzzies, when they kill of the Jews and Christians. He lets a marine rot in jail in Mexico. This guy will be fore aborting live babies when it comes down to it. This man has very strange and evil values.

garydt on August 1, 2014 at 10:57 PM

“He didn’t just say we tortured people, either. He said ‘folks.’ Like we waterboarded the town of Mayberry, not al-Qaeda.”— John Hayward

DanaSmiles on August 2, 2014 at 8:10 AM

President Barack Obama was halfway out the door, joking with his counterparts in the press

So they were presidents of the press?

Akzed on August 2, 2014 at 9:20 AM

Neepad Pepper on August 1, 2014 at 4:51 PM

Akzed on August 2, 2014 at 9:26 AM

I wouldn’t worry too much. People overseas realize Obama’s irrelevance as much as we do.

evergreen on August 2, 2014 at 9:33 AM

Torturing terrorists, all 2 of them, is a lot worse than a predator killing innocent civilians…right?

There are estimates as high as 98% of drone strike casualties being civilians (50 for every one “suspected terrorist”). The Bureau of Investigative Journalism issued a report detailing how the CIA is deliberately targeting those who show up after the sight of an attack, rescuers, and mourners at funerals as a part of a “double-tap” strategy eerily reminiscient of methods used by terrorist groups like Hamas.

US Predator Drone strikes kill 80 innocent civilians in Yemen

Just one in 50 victims of America’s deadly drone strikes in Pakistan are terrorists – while the rest are innocent civilians, a new report claimed today.

The authoritative joint study, by Stanford and New York Universities, concludes that men, women and children are being terrorised by the operations ’24 hours-a-day’.

And the authors lay much of the blame on the use of the ‘double-tap’ strike where a drone fires one missile – and then a second as rescuers try to drag victims from the rubble. One aid agency said they had a six-hour delay before going to the scene.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2208307/Americas-deadly-double-tap-drone-attacks-killing-49-people-known-terrorist-Pakistan.

The U.S. drone program under President Barack Obama reached its fifth anniversary on Thursday having tallied up an estimated death toll of at least 2,400 people.

2,400 people killed, two terrorists “tortured”…do the math.

right2bright on August 2, 2014 at 12:30 PM

Ned Pepper on August 1, 2014 at 4:51 PM

2,400 dead under your king, and 2 “tortured” and are living under our President.

Not too good at math are you?

right2bright on August 2, 2014 at 12:33 PM

I may have to switch my vote from “devious, anti-American conspirator” to “massive dumbass”.
Sorry, Mr. President.

Kenz on August 2, 2014 at 12:46 PM

anyone who wants to kill my family or attack my country deserves to be tortured–and they will–we are americans–let the libs talk nonsense–let us see what they will say if it is their kin–libs prob will not care-they are heartless ppl but great idiots

jstan442 on August 2, 2014 at 3:52 PM

Perhaps we should think of the torture inflicted on Am. Steven’s in Benghazi. One month before the actual attack on 9/11 Am. Steven’s put in a formal request for a standby C-130 transport plane and military protection. This request was denied by the State Department. If any of you out there want factual information about the murders of these four American citizens go to You-Tube and watch the interview between Bret Baier and retired Major Eric Stahl. It is a fountain of information about the Benghazi Scandal.

Bugdust172 on August 2, 2014 at 7:46 PM

THE PERSON THAT IS THE TRUE TORTURER HERE IS OBAMA, WHAT HE IS DOING TO THIS COUNTRY IS TRUE TORTURE!!!!!

pwb on August 2, 2014 at 8:47 PM