Democrats celebrate ‘midterm gift’ of GOP’s failure to pass border bill

posted at 10:01 am on August 1, 2014 by Noah Rothman

House Republicans looked set to pass a bill on Thursday aimed at addressing the crisis on the southern border. After being revised repeatedly in order to appease conservative members who thought the bill did not go far enough, the leadership appeared to have settled on a final version which enjoyed broad support. The package even had the backing of moderate Democrats like Rep. Henry Cuellar (D-TX).

“GOP leaders went to great lengths to secure passage by allowing a separate vote on a measure that would block Obama from any further executive action to stop the deportation of undocumented immigrants brought to the U.S. as children,” USA Today’s Susan Davis reported on Thursday.

While the GOP leadership realized that the bill would never be passed in the Senate (even if it were, President Barack Obama pledged to veto it), House Republicans were prepared to pass something to address the issue which communicated to the American people that they were acting to address what the GOP had been calling a crisis for weeks.

But the votes did not materialize and, rather than see the bill fail in the House, the leadership pulled it. Democrats are ecstatic.

“Another stunning legislative embarrassment for House Republicans has handed Democrats a mighty big talking point over the next three months until the midterm elections: The GOP is incapable — if not unwilling — to govern, they will argue,” NBC News’ First Read team reported on Friday.

[T]he past 48 hours might have been even worse for Republicans — suing the president for taking executive action, not passing legislation to provide relief at the border, and then saying that there are executive actions Obama should be taking on the border. (Huh?) As even Charles Krauthammer said on Fox, “It is ridiculous to sue the president on a Wednesday because he oversteps the law … and then on a Thursday say that he should overstep the law.” Here’s the deal: If Democrats hold serve in November (retain control of the Senate, minimize losses or even pick up seats in the House), we’ll all look back on the last two days as the week the GOP blew it.

Moderate House Republicans like Tom Cole (R-OK) cannot square the circle and, in a display of intellectual honesty, conceded on Friday that his fellow members are behaving in an absurdly contradictory fashion.

Even Texas Gov. Rick Perry took a shot at Congress for its inaction. “Congress and the president have a duty to address our border security issues without further delay. Congress should not go into recess until the job is completed,” he said on Thursday.

Even if Texas Sen. Ted Cruz did not play a leading role in helping to scuttle the border bill, as Washington Examiner reporters Betsy Woodruff and David Drucker revealed Thursday evening, his involvement in this episode will feature prominently in Democratic talking points and fundraising pitches. The junior Texas senator who led Republicans into the disastrous government shutdown last fall motivates the Democratic base nearly as much as does former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin.

Conservatives claim that the GOP’s bill was a political maneuver and that, if the border crisis is real, it should be tackled seriously and with resolve. They are correct, but the Senate and the White House are arrayed in opposition to tackling this problem with the seriousness it deserves.

Lacking the authority to resolve the border crisis on their own, the House GOP sought an advantageous position for the summer in order to put the onus back on the president. That effort failed and, unless the House Republicans’ emergency scramble to craft and pass some border measure is fruitful, GOP members will spend the summer explaining to the press why they did nothing on a “crisis” but were perfectly united when it came to suing the president. And the average Democratic base voter will be that much more energized for it.

This was never about policy, it was always about politics. For too long, Republicans have falsely equated good governance with good politics. These are not synonymous. Democrats learned long ago that good politics is good politics; governance comes later, if ever. The purest of intentions do not amount to much, particularly when those intentions are and ever will be impugned in the press.

This was an unforced error. One which serves to elevate the careers of a few while diminishing the party’s overall chances for success in November. The House Republicans may yet correct this mistake, and the damage might be mitigated if they do. But if they do not, this is going to be one long August recess.


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There was no point passing a bill that just would have died in the Senate, or been vetoed by Obama. AZCoyote on August 1, 2014 at 10:15 AM

Reid said the policy changes would give him an opportunity to attach the comprehensive immigration reform bill that the Senate passed last year with the support of 14 Republicans. “If they pass that, maybe it’s an opening for us to have a conference on our comprehensive immigration reform. If they’re finally sending us something on immigration, maybe we can do that,” Reid told reporters after a lunch meeting with his caucus.

“We’ve been looking for something to do a conference on. Maybe we can do it with that,” Reid said.

http://www.alipac.us/warning-traitor-reid-says-gop-border-bill-could-vehicle-amnesty-3259/

bluefox on August 1, 2014 at 11:17 AM

Reid said the policy changes would give him an opportunity to attach the comprehensive immigration reform bill that the Senate passed last year with the support of 14 Republicans. “If they pass that, maybe it’s an opening for us to have a conference on our comprehensive immigration reform. If they’re finally sending us something on immigration, maybe we can do that,” Reid told reporters after a lunch meeting with his caucus.

“We’ve been looking for something to do a conference on. Maybe we can do it with that,” Reid said.

http://www.alipac.us/warning-traitor-reid-says-gop-border-bill-could-vehicle-amnesty-3259/

bluefox on August 1, 2014 at 11:17 AM

Exactly why Conservatives have been against ANY bill being passed out of the House. Amnesty will be added in conference, and America is BONED.

Meople on August 1, 2014 at 11:22 AM

There was a time…many moons ago…this place was somewhat conservative.

Big Orange on August 1, 2014 at 11:23 AM

https://twitter.com/ChadPergram

Chad Pergram @ChadPergram · 14s

Senate approves additional Iron Dome funding for #Israel by unanimous consent.

Chad Pergram @ChadPergram · 5m

Senate appears to have reached deal on funding Iron Dome.

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Chad Pergram @ChadPergram · 12m

Am told there could be additional changes to Blackburn “DACA” language, preventing future authorization of deferred action

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Chad Pergram @ChadPergram · 13m

Hse plan is still to do 2 bills. 1 for supplemental w/policy changes & then updated DACA from Blackburn. Unclear if 2nd is contingent on 1st

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Chad Pergram @ChadPergram · 14m

House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy on border bill: We are changing some language.

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Chad Pergram @ChadPergram · 14m

Sr GOP source says some GOP mbrs at meeting “were noes yesterday who are yes’s today.”

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Chad Pergram @ChadPergram · 14m

At GOP Conference, Boehner told mbrs “we still have some work to do.”

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Chad Pergram @ChadPergram · 15m

In GOP Conference, sr aide says R’s “made some tweaks” to border bill but “there are still a couple issues we’re trying to work there”

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Chad Pergram @ChadPergram · 16m

Sen Lindsey Graham holds presser shortly on Iron Dome. Congressional Hispanic Caucus holds presser early om on border bill.

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Chad Pergram @ChadPergram · 18m

Rep Steve King on border bill changes: It treats other than Mexicans now just like Mexicans under the law. The other bill didn’t do that

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Chad Pergram @ChadPergram · 19m

Rep Steve King (R-IA): I’m a yes..It’s not a new draft, it’s a cut and paste of things that have already been offered

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Chad Pergram @ChadPergram · 19m

Rep Matt Salmon: This was a more inclusive process..people sat down like adults..We’re answering what the American people want

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Chad Pergram @ChadPergram · 20m

Rep Matt Salmon on bill changes: To say it was gutted it wasn’t. It was tightened..Intent is the same…This was a more inclusive process.

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Chad Pergram @ChadPergram · 21m

Senate now meeting. But no votes expected. Reid on the floor.

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Chad Pergram @ChadPergram · 21m

Rep Michele Bachmann (R-MN): We got to yes…We gutted the old bill…This will change the immigration debate

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Chad Pergram @ChadPergram · 48m

House to split bills in 2. McCarthy says the “arrangement is the same one we had before.”

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Chad Pergram @ChadPergram · 53m

House GOP Conference on border just broke up.

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Chad Pergram @ChadPergram · 1h

Process 4: House then debates and passes new border bill. Even if moving quickly, this easily gets us to 4-7 pm et window to wrap up.

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Chad Pergram @ChadPergram · 1h

Process 3: House Rules Cmte must meet again to create rule for new bill. House must debate & pass new rule for new bill.

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Chad Pergram @ChadPergram · 1h

Process 2: House must post new bill text. Technically, this violates House GOP’s “parts of 3 days” rule for text to be available.

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Chad Pergram @ChadPergram · 1h

Process 1: House will debate & vote on authority for Hse to call up a “same day rule” later this morning.

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Chad Pergram @ChadPergram · 1h

Even if Hse adopts border bill, Senate is not on same page. This could force Senate to come back or just serve as Hse figleaf

canopfor on August 1, 2014 at 11:23 AM

canopfor on August 1, 2014 at 11:24 AM

Exactly why Conservatives have been against ANY bill being passed out of the House. Amnesty will be added in conference, and America is BONED.

Meople on August 1, 2014 at 11:22 AM

Then it would go back to the House where it would die.

Vince on August 1, 2014 at 11:24 AM

Liberals/RINOS smearing Conservatives again while the Senate HAS ALREADY GONE HOME!!!!!!!

Realdemocrat1 on August 1, 2014 at 11:24 AM

You have to laugh at the pathetic attempt by Noah to scare monger obsessively over motivated dems one day after motivated republicans put a stop to this asinine bill(temporarily at least) that never should have been brought up to begin with.

Hey morons….there’s no rule that says ONLY DEMOCRATS CAN BE MOTIVATED TO ACT!

xblade on August 1, 2014 at 11:25 AM

Then it would go back to the House where it would die.

Vince on August 1, 2014 at 11:24 AM

No, it would go back to the House, where every Dim along with GOPe (R)’s would pass it.

And there you have your amnesty.

Meople on August 1, 2014 at 11:26 AM

These Obama Illegal Aliens are his ground troops for his direct FRONTAL ATTACK ON WHITE MIDDLE CLASS AMERICA…..

Realdemocrat1 on August 1, 2014 at 11:26 AM

There was a time…many moons ago…this place was somewhat conservative.

Big Orange on August 1, 2014 at 11:23 AM

I remember.

VegasRick on August 1, 2014 at 11:27 AM

No, it would go back to the House, where every Dim along with GOPe (R)’s would pass it.

And there you have your amnesty.

Meople on August 1, 2014 at 11:26 AM

Well, Eeyore #2, they would have to vote in front of God and country aqnd I doubt it would pass.

Vince on August 1, 2014 at 11:30 AM

Here is the only response republicans should give and should have been giving from the beginning:

The solutions to this immediate crisis – and our longer-term immigration needs as well – begin with the president finally enforcing the law.

There is no amount of money Congress can spend… there is no new law that can solve this crisis if the president and the leadership of his party continue down their lawless path.

There are several steps the president can take – immediately – that do not require any action by Congress or another dime from the American people.

He can stop abusing “prosecutorial discretion.” He can end the DACA program which provides administrative amnesty and work permits to those who entered the U.S. illegally as minors.

He can close the door to any further expansion of DACA to millions of additional adults. And he can signal his commitment to this solution by quickly returning those who enter the U.S. illegally to their home countries.

But by announcing to the world that he will not enforce laws requiring DHS to process and return those who come here unlawfully, the president is encouraging hundreds of thousands of children and adults to make a very dangerous journey to come to the United States illegally.

Senator Mike Lee

Full speech here.

xblade on August 1, 2014 at 11:33 AM

Well, Eeyore #2, they would have to vote in front of God and country aqnd I doubt it would pass.

Vince on August 1, 2014 at 11:30 AM

That didn’t stop them from doing what they did in Mississippi. They wouldn’t CARE if it meant screwing over Conservatives and the Tea Party.

Meople on August 1, 2014 at 11:34 AM

These Liberal/RINOS need to stop being mad all the time…..

Realdemocrat1 on August 1, 2014 at 11:38 AM

Then it would go back to the House where it would die.

Vince

That’s the problem….there’s no guarantee it would die at all. This is the House that has been whining about the 2008 “loophole” preventing the deportation of Central Americans for weeks as being the problem that just tried to expand that loophole to include Mexicans.

The odds of it dying aren’t good at all.

xblade on August 1, 2014 at 11:38 AM

Boehner and RINOS were trying to slip in Obama’s AMNESTY into this bil and Conservatives stopped it.

I thank the Conservatives……

Realdemocrat1 on August 1, 2014 at 11:40 AM

bluefox on August 1, 2014 at 11:17 AM

Exactly why Conservatives have been against ANY bill being passed out of the House. Amnesty will be added in conference, and America is BONED.

Meople on August 1, 2014 at 11:22 AM

We were warning about this last year that we didn’t want the House to pass anything relating to Immigration. With Boehner carrying the water for Reid/Obama, he continues to ignore Americans and furthers Obamas’ agenda. The R’s in the House, let by the Conservatives/Tea Party members need to replace him by any means necessary (lawfully, of course)

bluefox on August 1, 2014 at 11:40 AM

The GOP failed to pass a phony bill that the voters didn’t want and that’s a benefit for the Democrats?

rplat on August 1, 2014 at 11:41 AM

The junior Texas senator who led Republicans into the disastrous government shutdown last fall

Good grief, talk about showing your true squish colors. The more of this type of drivel I read, the more I question why I come to this site. Heaven forbid we stand up to President fundraiser or any of those punch-drunk liberals. Kind of hard to have a chance at winning any media messaging wars with surrender monkeys like you around.

It really was despicable for “The junior Texas Senator” to close off Veteran’s access to our DC Memorials, our national parks; including those who PAY for that access with business leases, etc. Oh wait…

Please go to MSNBC or somewhere you’d be appreciated. They are probably looking for a good solid conservative like you to finish balancing out their programming.

Luthier on August 1, 2014 at 11:43 AM

Let’s see, the House GOP didn’t pass a bill its constituents didn’t want and that everyone on both sides openly acknowledged would be DOA in the Senate.

Noah Rothman here provides for us the Democrat view.

What site am I reading?

Missy on August 1, 2014 at 11:46 AM

I didn’t know Rove had a son named Noah.

bildung on August 1, 2014 at 11:46 AM

Well, Eeyore #2, they would have to vote in front of God and country aqnd I doubt it would pass.

Vince on August 1, 2014 at 11:30 AM

That didn’t stop them from doing what they did in Mississippi. They wouldn’t CARE if it meant screwing over Conservatives and the Tea Party.

Meople on August 1, 2014 at 11:34 AM

I believe that Reid’s efforts would fail in the first place and that is what Senators Sessions and Cruz were laying out to the conservatives in the house.
As I’ve said before, I don’t know why the Tea Party/Republicans don’t hook up with Labor to fight against amnesty.

Vince on August 1, 2014 at 11:48 AM

canopfor on August 1, 2014 at 11:23 AM

canopfor on August 1, 2014 at 11:24 AM

Thanks, canopfor. Appreciate your info. Haven’t checked in the last hour, but( Hse plan is still to do 2 bills. 1 for supplemental w/policy changes & then updated DACA from Blackburn. Unclear if 2nd is contingent on 1st)

This was the way the two bills were to be voted on yesterday. I doubt that has changed, but we’ll see. They certainly don’t want Blackburn’s HR 5160 or Cruz’s S.2631 voted on, LOL Those would really be reform! They would still want those voted on after the Boehner bill because they know all of the Dems & RINOS would vote against them.

bluefox on August 1, 2014 at 11:50 AM

Walter L. Newton on August 1, 2014 at 10:16 AM

And what could they have passed that would have stopped that?

ConstantineXI on August 1, 2014 at 10:34 AM

Cruz’s bill (S.2631) and Blackburn’s bill (H.R.5160) would end prevent any funds from being used to extend Pres. Obama’s DACA program or to issue future work permits to illegal aliens.

That’s why Boehner didn’t want those in his bill:-) Voted on after his bill, those would surely be defeated with all Dems/RINOS voting against them.

bluefox on August 1, 2014 at 11:55 AM

all this flapdoodle about how the democrats are ‘now’ going to be energized is just that….flapdoodle. We’ve still got the next round of health insurance cancellations / premium increases to go through. Also, you can bet Drudge and Brietbart will be covering the raping and pillaging done by the recent wave of illegal immigrant ‘children’ (i.e. MS-13 members) and their adult ‘escorts’.

olesparkie on August 1, 2014 at 11:55 AM

Michelle, next time you create a website that becomes popular, PLEASE do not sell it to Salem!

ConstantineXI on August 1, 2014 at 10:39 AM

I agree!! Salem is taking over/buying Conservative sites and not for a good reason. HA, Twitchy, Red State and another one, I’ve forgotten. A good way to eliminate the opposition:-)

Heard China now owns RealClear.

bluefox on August 1, 2014 at 12:00 PM

This was never about policy, it was always about politics.

Policy based on Democrat politics caused the crisis.

For too long, Republicans have falsely equated good governance with good politics. These are not synonymous.

Good governance is good politics. This is demonstrated by Obama’s tanking approvals. When you can’t govern or manage the government effectively, all you have left is politics.

Democrats learned long ago that good politics is good politics; governance comes later, if ever.

So Republicans should give up on good governance because Democrats choose to only focus on politics? Republicans must become more like Democrats?

The purest of intentions do not amount to much, particularly when those intentions are and ever will be impugned in the press.

The purest intentions don’t amount to much, but according to Noah we need to put politics above competent governance. What is focusing solely on politics, governance be damned? Is that not a demonstration of concentrating purely on intentions?

Noah’s message is essentially saying: It’s ok GOP. Become more like the Democrats and focus only on politics and you will be safely re-elected. Don’t try to govern or actually solve problems.

airupthere on August 1, 2014 at 12:04 PM

House is in Recess now. I’m going to lunch as well:-)

bluefox on August 1, 2014 at 12:06 PM

Senator Mike Lee

Full speech here.

xblade on August 1, 2014 at 11:33 AM

Thanks, from one TruCon to another:-)

bluefox on August 1, 2014 at 12:10 PM

This Noah character is getting on my nerves. There’s already too many voices on the left to add his to this site. I think I’ll just avoid it for a while. It sure has changed since the boss sold it to these RINO’s.

Capt Blasto on August 1, 2014 at 12:11 PM

I believe that Reid’s efforts would fail in the first place and that is what Senators Sessions and Cruz were laying out to the conservatives in the house.
As I’ve said before, I don’t know why the Tea Party/Republicans don’t hook up with Labor to fight against amnesty.

Vince on August 1, 2014 at 11:48 AM

That could be. If Cruz and Sessions were saying that, I trust them more than anyone else in Congress (Lee and Gowdy included).

Yeah, that doesn’t make any sense to me either.

Meople on August 1, 2014 at 12:13 PM

https://twitter.com/AP

The Associated Press @AP · 22s

Colorado to begin issuing driver’s licenses to immigrants regardless of legal status: http://apne.ws/1qPFqTk

canopfor on August 1, 2014 at 12:15 PM

https://twitter.com/ChadPergram

Chad Pergram @ChadPergram · 3m

House now in recess subject to the clal of the chair. They wait to post bill text of border bill later this pm.

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Am told it’s possible House could add Iron Dome funding to border bill or do as standalone to mirror Senate action today. #Israel

canopfor on August 1, 2014 at 12:17 PM

canopfor on August 1, 2014 at 12:17 PM

This was an unforced error.

I can only assume that you were huffing glue while writing this piece, so I’ll forgive its incoherency. Here’s what would have happened with the bill they tried to pass yesterday:

1)Reid would have refused to bring it to the floor
2) GOP would have gotten blamed for “not negotiating”, which is newspeak for “capitulating”

Let’s be clear: if the GOP passes a bill granting amnesty to illegals (and I don’t care what euphemism they’re calling it today), they would have voted themselves into a permanent minority. Not surprisingly, the more conservative side of the House and Senate (okay, one or two Senators) understands this and balked at voting for yesterday’s bill, which action you claim will prevent them from -possibly- taking the Senate. To summarize:

1) Vote for yesterday’s craptastic bill and commit political suicide
2) Refuse to vote for yesterday’s bill and-according to you- commit political suicide

At this point, I’m almost certain that there’s a brain parasite infesting the nation’s water supply because the ability to add 1 and 1 and get 37 is becoming waaay too common.

Physics Geek on August 1, 2014 at 12:22 PM

That’s why Boehner didn’t want those in his bill:-) Voted on after his bill, those would surely be defeated with all Dems/RINOS voting against them.

bluefox on August 1, 2014 at 11:55 AM

It was a joke to seperate that from the bill that gives Obama his money.

Boner has played this game before, “boning” the conservative base: separate what Obama and the GOPe want from what will reign in Obama, so that it fails to pass and Obama gets the part he wants.

ConstantineXI on August 1, 2014 at 12:22 PM

Who is this leftist Rothman? And why is he being given space on Hot Air? We get enough of this drivel elsewhere.

redware on August 1, 2014 at 12:28 PM

Well, it sounds like the House will vote on this “new & improved” version of Boehner’s bill. Looks like they will pass it and then we’ll see what is in in.

I see now why Reid was smiling yesterday.

Rep. John Fleming (R-LA) said he is worried that Republicans will pass a first bill only to see the second bill, addressing DACA, fall.
Alabama Rep. Mo Brooks:
“I very strongly prefer that we publish today what ever bill there is that leadership is going to put forward and give the American people time to read the bill and then share their insight with their elected congressman. Right now the American people are being shut out of the process and as a consequence I am very much tempted to vote on on the 24 hour rule or the vote-today rule that is being offered.”

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/08/01/Day-2-House-Republicans-Come-Back-To-The-Table-With-Tougher-Border-Bill-Proposals

bluefox on August 1, 2014 at 12:31 PM

Noah,

Your entire piece seems to be a defense of the establishment at the expense of conservative lawmakers. Perhaps, the onus is on people like Boehner and McCarthy who are more interested in scoring political points (at least in their mind) rather than passing good legislation. The language was absoultely terrible and did nothing to address the crisis. Whether the Senate passed it and the President vetoed it or not, doesn’t change the fact that the House should not be voting on terrible language just to put the “onus” on the Democrats. That is spoken like a true Establishment type that thinks they can scheme their way to power–and then give us stuff like No Child Left Behind and Medicare Part D. Perhaps, conservatives didn’t want to lie to their voters over the recess by saying they tried to “fix the problem” when that is exactly what was done.

Why not put the responsibility for the failure here on the Establishment Republicans who refused to appease conservative members–you know, the ones that actually care what the language says? Apparently in your view, conservatives deciding they won’t vote for a bill they don’t like is horrible, but Establishment refusing to put out a bill that conservatives like is perfectly okay. There is a reason that there are so many Republican primaries these days–that kind of attitude by leadership. Basically, “we know best, so do what I say.” While you are right that this is an “unforced error,” you are wrong to blame the conservatives in the House. It is Boehner, McCarthy and the rest of leadership, huddling together and deciding on language and a strategy without even attempting to check with the people who will be voting on it. These past two years has shown me one thing–House Republicans need new leadership. The current Leadership is still acting like its 2004, where members just blindly follow party leadership. That might happen in the Democrat caucus, but in the Republican caucus, there are now members who actually think for themselves and read the bills rather than the talking points.

Conservative in NOVA on August 1, 2014 at 12:33 PM

In other words the Rs have no principles, as don’t the D-rats.

verbie agrees with Noah. That is not good, Noah.

Schadenfreude on August 1, 2014 at 12:35 PM

“This was an unforced error. One which serves to elevate the careers of a few while diminishing the party’s overall chances for success in November.”

Then how come I feel so good about the pulling of this bill? Hmmm.

Close the border! Impeach Rothman!

ncjetsfan on August 1, 2014 at 12:36 PM

bluefox on August 1, 2014 at 11:55 AM

It was a joke to seperate that from the bill that gives Obama his money.

Boner has played this game before, “boning” the conservative base: separate what Obama and the GOPe want from what will reign in Obama, so that it fails to pass and Obama gets the part he wants.

ConstantineXI on August 1, 2014 at 12:22 PM

He’s been carrying water for Obama, aka Reid since 2010/2011. Now it sounds like they are close to having the votes & Bachmann and even Steve King are all praising this new & improved version. I call it another Boehner betrayal of the American people.

bluefox on August 1, 2014 at 12:36 PM

Let’s see, the House GOP didn’t pass a bill its constituents didn’t want and that everyone on both sides openly acknowledged would be DOA in the Senate.

Noah Rothman here provides for us the Democrat view.

What site am I reading?

Missy on August 1, 2014 at 11:46 AM

Again, Rothman came from Mediaite. And Mediaite doesn’t hire conservatives. They just plain don’t.

And that site has been trash since Glynnis MacNicol left it, anyway.

HikaruKitsune on August 1, 2014 at 12:36 PM

Another point as well. All we hear all the time is immigration has to be done “comprehensively.” That is political talk for–we want to try to hide all of the bad stuff and pass the good stuff. Here we have the exact opposite. Boehener and company want to vote for the bad stuff in the first standalone bill to even get to the less bad stuff (make no mistake, the changes by Boehner’s staffer Becky Talent made the second bill pathetic) in the second bill. Yet, if this was a real bill for border security (the McCaul bill is not border security by the way, no matter what the talking points say), there is zero change it would get a stand alone vote.

So what have we learned. Leadership is prepared to permit votes “comprehensively” for junk, but refuses to combine two bills when part of one of those bills might have decent stuff. Leadership needs to go.

Conservative in NOVA on August 1, 2014 at 12:40 PM

I call it another Boehner betrayal of the American people.

bluefox on August 1, 2014 at 12:36 PM

John Boehner doesn’t believe that he in DC to serve either his direct constituents or the American people. Those constituents and the American people exist to serve him and the rest of the patricians in DC.

With that, it’s not really a betrayal. It’s just his true fecklessness and contempt on display.

Athos on August 1, 2014 at 12:40 PM

Who is this leftist Rothman? And why is he being given space on Hot Air? We get enough of this drivel elsewhere.
redware on August 1, 2014 at 12:28 PM

Rothman is a dull, second-rate writer who supports illegal alien amnesty, abortion, gay marriage and RINO/”moderate” Republicans over conservatives. He has a history on Twitter of belittling HotAir readers and has labeled as “valuable commentary” an article which quotes HotAir commenters and labels them as “racist.”

Suffice it to say he would not have been my first choice for the site.

It’s a real shame because Salem had so many wonderfully talented, entertaining conservative writers to choose from.

bluegill on August 1, 2014 at 12:41 PM

Sorry, but I need a little help. With 80% + of Americans wanting the swarm of illegal crossing the border to stop. Why is this a good thing for the Democrats. Do they get points for helping bring in the most diseases, murders and people who refuse to use toilets?

pwb on August 1, 2014 at 12:47 PM

It was fun to look at the comments trashing Rothman for the first few months … but that is getting old. He’s not trolling. He’s a real liberal.

He is, in essence, claiming that the country wants to keep these new illegals. He offers no data but just out of thin air claims that republicans standing firm on borders would be a PR disaster.

But no poll backs him up. Everyone on here knows that people (all types – LIV also) are nervous about our new open border policies and WANT someone to get a hold of the situation. WHat a complete bubble these bloggers live in! Noah, please, the country is not for open borders, buddy! This is politics 101. You know this. Think.

Here is the most liberal polling outfit’s numbers: Pew

http://www.people-press.org/2014/07/16/surge-of-central-american-children-roils-u-s-immigration-debate/

A majority of both independents (56 percent) and Republicans (60 percent) support speeding up the process. Democrats are split, with a plurality of 47 percent believing the government should follow current policy while 46 percent think the process should be expedited.

THose numbers will get more weighted towards speedy deportations as time goes on. Most polls have it north of 60%. Rasmussen had something like 85% of republicans(Is Rothman a republican?).

here is rasmussen which is probably closer to the truth
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/july_2014/most_voters_want_to_send_latest_illegal_immigrants_home_asap

I have to agree with BG that HA should get a conservative blogger.

BoxHead1 on August 1, 2014 at 12:47 PM

The latest from numbersusa:

The plan is to hold a vote on the first tier, followed by a vote on the second. Rep. Michael McCaul, R-Tex., told Roll Call he expected a vote around 5 p.m. Friday.

The most important in my opinion is the 2nd vote and it should have been included in the first vote. That would have defeated Boehner’s agenda aka Obama’s tho.

https://www.numbersusa.com/news/report-new-house-legislation-may-address-underlying-causes-border-surge

Oh, the GOPe will betray you. Hi Dire!!

bluefox on August 1, 2014 at 12:51 PM

Comin’ in late to this post and this viewpoint was probably broached, but I just wish to say, … Big Deal.
The House couldn’t pass an immigration bill so quickly* such that it could POSSIBLY remedy the machinations of the White House? This is an absurdity.

*Remember – “We have to pass the Bill to see what’s in the Bill.”?
WTF people!
Prezzie Choombro does what the fark he wants ANYWAY. The LSM cheers him on in for WHAT EVER THE HELL HE DOES.
He doesn’t enforce the LAWS AS THEY ARE WRITTEN ALREADY!
Holder only enforces the laws that he wants to.
Get it?

Stupid Americans.

Missilengr on August 1, 2014 at 12:53 PM

Ebola moving faster than efforts to control it. WHO: Warns Virus Could Spread To Other Countries Causing Catastrophic Loss Of Life

The warning came from the head of the WHO Margaret Chan who said that the epidemic was moving faster than their efforts to control it.

Dr Chan made the stark warning at a regional summit of the leaders of Guinea, Sierra Leone and Liberia in the Guinean capital of Conakry, where she also said the response the virus had been ‘woefully inadequate.’

She explained: ‘If the situation continues to deteriorate, the consequences can be catastrophic in terms of lost lives but also severe socio-economic disruption and a high risk of spread to other countries.

‘It is taking place in areas with fluid population movements over porous borders, and it has demonstrated its ability to spread via air travel, contrary to what has been seen in past outbreaks.

‘Cases are occurring in rural areas which are difficult to access, but also in densely populated capital cities. This meeting must mark a turning point in the outbreak response.’

However, she did emphasise that the general public is not at a high risk of infection.

She added: ‘Constant mutation and adaptation are the survival mechanisms of viruses and other microbes.

‘We must not give this virus opportunities to deliver more surprises.’

Seems prudent to secure our borders and screen any people entering the nation, for any reason, for infectious diseases… as federal immigration law requires.

thatsafactjack on August 1, 2014 at 12:53 PM

verbie agrees with Noah. That is not good, Noah.

Schadenfreude on August 1, 2014 at 12:35 PM

LOL, wait until libfree chimes in!

bluefox on August 1, 2014 at 12:55 PM

, the House GOP sought an advantageous position for the summer

We keep hearing about how the GOP Leadership keeps trying for “advantageous positions”. Unfortunately these bear a striking resemblance to the “advantageous position” of the Maginot Line.

StargazerA5 on August 1, 2014 at 1:01 PM

With that, it’s not really a betrayal. It’s just his true fecklessness and contempt on display.

Athos on August 1, 2014 at 12:40 PM

That too. But actions speak louder than words & he is a betrayer of the American People and our Country.

bluefox on August 1, 2014 at 1:09 PM

Stupid Americans.

Missilengr on August 1, 2014 at 12:53 PM

Stupid Speaker of the House and those that don’t vote no on this upcoming bill.

bluefox on August 1, 2014 at 1:15 PM

Noah Rothman has never written about nor apparently shown any concern about the harm to Americans caused by the illegal alien invasion.

bluegill on August 1, 2014 at 1:21 PM

Seems prudent to secure our borders and screen any people entering the nation, for any reason, for infectious diseases… as federal immigration law requires.

thatsafactjack on August 1, 2014 at 12:53 PM

More so now, I agree!! This invasion of our border should never have taken place. The fact that it started perhaps as early as 2011 and continued is evident it was all planned.

http://www.fairus.org/morton-memos
H/T shanimal-HA commenter

bluefox on August 1, 2014 at 1:35 PM

Noah Rothman has never written about nor apparently shown any concern about the harm to Americans caused by the illegal alien invasion.

bluegill on August 1, 2014 at 1:21 PM

Same exact behavior of the supporters of infanticide, they never speak about the physical and psychological harm done to a woman who has an abortion. It’s as if that doesn’t exist.

Same holds true for supporters of the invasion. Only the cause and the narrative matters to them.

Meople on August 1, 2014 at 1:39 PM

This was an unforced error. One which serves to elevate the careers of a few while diminishing the party’s overall chances for success in November.

Somewhere cruz’s ears are burning.

Tlaloc on August 1, 2014 at 2:08 PM

Sorry, but I need a little help. With 80% + of Americans wanting the swarm of illegal crossing the border to stop. Why is this a good thing for the Democrats. Do they get points for helping bring in the most diseases, murders and people who refuse to use toilets?

pwb on August 1, 2014 at 12:47 PM

Does the house GOP passing nothing help stop illegal immigrants from crossing the border? No? Well then you have your answer.

Nobody wants the status quo in a “crisis.”

Tlaloc on August 1, 2014 at 2:11 PM

Does the house GOP passing nothing help stop illegal immigrants from crossing the border? No? Well then you have your answer.

Nobody wants the status quo in a “crisis.”

Tlaloc on August 1, 2014 at 2:11 PM

The “crisis” was created by Obama and his illegal Executive overreach.

The border bill wouldn’t have stopped illegals from crossing the border either. It wouldn’t have done a damn thing, other than provide Reid and the GOPe a trojan horse for amnesty.

There is one thing that will stop the Obama created “crisis”. Militarize and SEAL the border entirely. THAT will stop it.

Washington isn’t willing to do that.

Meople on August 1, 2014 at 2:34 PM

Somewhere cruz’s ears are burning.

Tlaloc on August 1, 2014 at 2:08 PM

Rothman’s an idiot, and a GOPe Shill. I guess the same holds true for you.

Meople on August 1, 2014 at 2:36 PM

Cruz fear shows herein.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on August 1, 2014 at 2:38 PM

In about a year, the Presidential primary season will be in full swing.

When Noah tries to tell us who we need to vote for, remember this post.

Baggi on August 1, 2014 at 2:39 PM

Noah your a bit lame.
The fear does show.
Not a nice thing to have this fear cross to bear in public.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on August 1, 2014 at 2:42 PM

Then it would go back to the House where it would die.

Vince on August 1, 2014 at 11:24 AM

Like with Obamacare?

dominigan on August 1, 2014 at 2:48 PM

Like with Obamacare?

dominigan on August 1, 2014 at 2:48 PM

Heh, yeah, that worked out well.

Meople on August 1, 2014 at 3:03 PM

Democrats celebrate ‘midterm gift’ of GOP’s failure to pass border bill Noah Rothman Continues To Promote and Shill For The Democrat Party

Fixed

bgibbs1000 on August 1, 2014 at 3:17 PM

In about a year, the Presidential primary season will be in full swing.

When Noah tries to tell us who we need to vote for, remember this post.

Baggi on August 1, 2014 at 2:39 PM

No kidding! I was giving Noah the benefit of the doubt in my responses because I thought maybe he just wasn’t understanding what was going on–but I’m starting to wonder, at least after some of his posts on immigration. My guess is that we will hear that Romney or Chris Christie are the only ones that can win because they are the most “electable.”

Conservative in NOVA on August 1, 2014 at 3:23 PM

Rothman’s an idiot, and a GOPe Shill. I guess the same holds true for you.

Meople on August 1, 2014 at 2:36 PM

Nah, I just enjoy a bit of republican fratricide as much as the next guy.

Tlaloc on August 1, 2014 at 3:25 PM

Nah, I just enjoy a bit of republican fratricide as much as the next guy.

Tlaloc on August 1, 2014 at 3:25 PM

Enjoy, because it never happens on the other side of the aisle … you know, the Borg side.

darwin on August 1, 2014 at 3:35 PM

Just saw report that two bills have passed, second dependent on the first. First hands out money, second maybe reduces time the aliens are on the dole and paying lawyers.
Please explain why this isn’t a FAIL.

hertfordkc on August 1, 2014 at 5:11 PM

There were two border bills passed the House last night. One to provide emergency funding to deal with the border crisis, and the other one was to defund DACA (Defered Action On Childhood Arrivals). The following statement is from a friend who has been working on House border bill:

The bill’s opponents, as you can see, are against the bill mostly for sins of omission, rather than of commission. They want it to be a “comprehensive” border bill, solving all of the woes down there at one time and in one bill. Language on DACA is the primary omission but there would be other problems even if we were to add that to the package.

The thrust of the bill is to require the agencies down there (HHS, DHS, etc.) to reorder its priorities and their budgets top address the crisis at hand. Process the children quickly and humanely within 10 days of their apprehension. Bring the National Guard to the border and give them duties that will free up the Border Patrol to do its job. Demand that the Central American countries do more to address the problem in their own backyards. More immigration judges and other resources to expedite the handling of the surging caseload. And we offset all the new spending ($659 million) from other government accounts, and all in this year. No net increase in federal spending. Tougher on drug cartels; tougher on traffickers, etc.

Very scaled back from where the Democrats want to be. Push the decisions relating to the next fiscal year (2015) to the regular appropriations process so that any funds allocated to this will be spent under the current budget caps.

The new measure added $35 million to deploy National Guard troops to the border, which makes it a total package of $694 million. It was certainly a huge success for anti-amnesty conservatives.

sohumm on August 2, 2014 at 12:00 PM

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