Joe Scarborough on Israel: “We cannot be associated with this if this continues”

posted at 6:01 pm on July 31, 2014 by Allahpundit

I … can’t shake the feeling that this isn’t going to help his reputation as a RINO.

Let me focus on this part, since it’s one of the most common canards about Hamas:

“As much as we all hate Hamas, what is going to replace Hamas is going to be much worse. It is going to be a radical Islamist group instead of just power-hungry, corrupt people that despise Israel. This is such a nightmare that is unfolding. And the biggest nightmare is that Hamas was on the run. The Arab states hate Hamas and Israel has not only made them relevant again, but champions of the Palestinian people. This tragedy just keeps unfolding and it just keeps getting worse.”

I’m surprised to learn that Hamas isn’t a “radical Islamist group,” just a bunch of corrupt, Jew-hating bureaucrats. Someone had better let Egypt know too, as the new man in charge has lately become Israel’s best friend precisely because he’s all about smashing radical Islamist groups. But I digress. What would something “worse than Hamas” look like? One Israeli academic wonders:

Worse than Hamas? Really? While Salafi jihadists like ISIS and militant offshoots of the Muslim Brotherhood like Hamas differ on questions such as the speed and methods by which Islamic law (sharia) should be imposed on Muslims, there is absolutely no daylight between them about the treatment of Jews. In their eyes all are deserving of death and must, as a matter of religious commandment, be annihilated.

If anything, it is ISIS’s attitude that is less fanatical, in that the Salafists are equal opportunity murderers – targeting Christians, Jews, Shi’ites and any Sunni who does not buy into their particular vision of Islamic utopia – whereas Hamas and its sister organization, Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ), are singularly obsessed with killing Jews…

Hamas and PIJ are far more dangerous than any of the alternative governors that could realistically emerge in post-Hamas Gaza, in that they have, for over two decades now, been systematically armed, trained and funded by Iran, Syria, Hezbollah, and most recently Qatar. Even if these or other sponsors were to overcome their aversion for aiding and abetting ISIS-like jihadists, it would again take a highly disciplined organization many years of undisturbed activity to attain a fraction of Hamas’s current know-how and capabilities.

I can understand being indifferent about which jihadi group runs Gaza or mildly preferring Hamas just because Israel has already collected so much intelligence on them. Better the devil you know than the devil you don’t. (Netanyahu himself apparently favors that approach.) If you take the “whatever comes next will be worse” logic to its ultimate conclusion, though, you’re forever left defending whichever bunch of degenerates is in charge at the time. Israel can’t oust Hamas because then Al Qaeda might take over; if Al Qaeda takes over, Israel can’t oust them or else ISIS might move in. If ISIS moves in, Israel can’t oust them or else a portal to hell will open in the ground and Hitler and Bin Laden will emerge from the earth to rule Gaza together. And so on. Essentially, so long as Eliminationist Group A remains a bit less savage than Eliminationist Group B, they can be as savage as they like and the west’s commentariat will defend leaving them in power. Also, I thought the lesson of the Awakening in Iraq was that as jihadists crack down on the local population, resentment builds and steers people around to alternatives. That’s a hard lesson to grasp right now, after Maliki’s made a sectarian mess in Iraq and ISIS is in power in Anbar province, but look at Egypt: A year after the Muslim Brotherhood’s revolution, the anti-Islamist revolution snatched back power and sent Morsi to prison. Something “worse than Hamas” might be what convinces Palestinians in Gaza to accept Abbas and Fatah after all. Or maybe they’re ready now, provided Hamas can be finally dislodged.

Scarborough’s right that Hamas was in deep trouble politically before the war began, but I don’t know what path he thinks Israel should have taken once the rockets started flying. Was Netanyahu supposed to simply play defense with Iron Dome, wait patiently while Hamas exhausts its arsenal, and then hope that Gazans oust Hamas themselves as the economic grind from the embargo wears on? Even if that happened, I thought the big fear here was that whatever replaces Hamas will be worse. Why assume that the new regime that rises to power in the wake of a Gaza revolution would be more willing to deal with Israel rather than less? I don’t get it.


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As much as we all hate Hamas, what is going to replace Hamas is going to be much worse.

 
+1, because the 1/5th of our economy that is healthcare is the only thing where we shouldn’t worry about that sort of thing.

rogerb on July 31, 2014 at 6:06 PM

Who the hell is “we” you MSNBC moron?

Warner Todd Huston on July 31, 2014 at 6:07 PM

I’m shocked that the Morning Jew is coming out in support of Hamas

burserker on July 31, 2014 at 6:08 PM

I am beginning to think that Rush is right. Talking about MSNBC is giving them more audience than they can get on their own and nothing said or done there is of any consequence or importance.

Warner Todd Huston on July 31, 2014 at 6:08 PM

Oh, Scarby…

22044 on July 31, 2014 at 6:08 PM

Rockets going east are ok, better, more powerful rockets going west are bad. Ok, I get it now.

cat-scratch on July 31, 2014 at 6:09 PM

but I don’t know what path he thinks Israel should have taken once the rockets started flying. Was Netanyahu supposed to simply play defense with Iron Dome, wait patiently while Hamas exhausts its arsenal, and then hope

Obviously there should be no “iron dome” and Israel should suffer for the sin of making us feel guilty about the Holocaust.

Fenris on July 31, 2014 at 6:10 PM

Scarborough’s right that Hamas was in deep trouble politically before the war began, but I don’t know what path he thinks Israel should have taken once the rockets started flying.

Which leads us to the answer on why Hams started the most recent unpleasantness with Israel.

I will take “They are desperate and trying to hold onto power” for $200 Alex.

Johnnyreb on July 31, 2014 at 6:10 PM

Republicans in Liberal fishbowls are the worst.

portlandon on July 31, 2014 at 6:11 PM

Guess warfare has to be total and instant to succeed with the media.
This drip, drip, drip of attacks no longer works.
Total boom and get it over with.

albill on July 31, 2014 at 6:12 PM

Just have Egypt enter Gaza as a “protectorate” and maybe eventually annex the area. They’ve got experience knocking MB heads together and they don’t want a radical group marching in.

rbj on July 31, 2014 at 6:12 PM

Rockets going east are ok, better, more powerful rockets going west are bad. Ok, I get it now.

cat-scratch on July 31, 2014 at 6:09 PM

And let’s talk about how many of those supposedly east-bound rockets never make it over the border. Let’s talk about how Hamas is getting off on shelling their own people.

CurtZHP on July 31, 2014 at 6:13 PM

I’m surprised to learn that Hamas isn’t a “radical Islamist group,” just a bunch of corrupt, Jew-hating bureaucrats.

Scarborough is obviously confusing Hamas with UNESCO. That’s an easy mistake, since they share so many of the same buildings.

Fabozz on July 31, 2014 at 6:13 PM

Joe wants more Jews to die… to even things up.

faraway on July 31, 2014 at 6:15 PM

I would think, like at least one SCOTUS justice does, that since Joe Scarheadoro isn’t a Jew, he obviously has a blind spot here.

BobMbx on July 31, 2014 at 6:15 PM

Report: 300 Rockets Fired By Hamas Have Landed On Palestinians In Gaza…

More than a third of the 140 rockets fired by Hamas at Israel yesterday fell short and exploded inside the Gaza Strip, according to the Israeli Army spokesman’s office.

Rocket shortfalls have increased, according to Israeli military sources. They attribute these misfires to the intense pressure Hamas rocket squads face from Israeli air and artillery attacks, as well as poorly assembled rockets.

Some 2,000 rockets have been fired at Israel since the fighting between Israel and Hamas began three weeks ago. Of these, say army officers, about 300 have fallen inside the Gaza Strip. The army spokesman said shortfalls were responsible for explosions three days ago at a hospital and a refugee camp that took dozens of lives. Hamas has denied the accusation and blamed Israel for the blasts.

Keep reading…

Resist We Much on July 31, 2014 at 6:16 PM

joe routinely describes himself as a small government fiscal conservative.
yet he supports all of obamas major policies.

why does the rnc allow their boys to appear on his show.

hmmmmmm

renalin on July 31, 2014 at 6:16 PM

Off this subject herein above of loons talking to loons.

If any one wants to see up close what is wrong with the U.S., open up the U.S. Senate live feed and watch the kook “Lady Jabba The Hut” aka the crabcake lady telling the RINO John Cornyn how bad an idea it is for him to try to suck up the kooks like her.

Sad days we are in.

http://www.ussenate.us

APACHEWHOKNOWS on July 31, 2014 at 6:17 PM

Scarborough doesn’t hate Jews per se…

Cicero43 on July 31, 2014 at 6:17 PM

oops

why does the rnc allow heir boys to appear on his show?

renalin on July 31, 2014 at 6:17 PM

Oh come on, he works for MSNBC. Does anybody take him seriously, or for that matter watch him?

hestrold on July 31, 2014 at 6:18 PM

Remember, this guy totally needed to be included on the HotAir straw poll. Because reasons.

Good Solid B-Plus on July 31, 2014 at 6:18 PM

I am beginning to think that Rush is right. Talking about MSNBC is giving them more audience than they can get on their own and nothing said or done there is of any consequence or importance.

Warner Todd Huston on July 31, 2014 at 6:08 PM

Agreed. They should be isolated from all conservative media references.

Jaibones on July 31, 2014 at 6:19 PM

They stop blowing them up for 72 hrs but that will resume.

sorrowen on July 31, 2014 at 6:19 PM

That is just asinine …

BD57 on July 31, 2014 at 6:19 PM

Scarborough is just trying to prove that he’s the smartest guy in the room, and as long as he’s sitting next to Mika Brzzinzzinziznzzski, that just might be true.

Cicero43 on July 31, 2014 at 6:20 PM

Scarborough doesn’t hate Jews per se…

Cicero43 on July 31, 2014 at 6:17 PM

Not per se. Only Jews that defend themselves.

Fenris on July 31, 2014 at 6:20 PM

Scarborough was also on a daily basis coming out and standing with the Democrats in favor of Ground Zero Mosque when nearly all Republicans were against that. Scarborough isn’t a conservative. He’s an MS-NBC shill.

Btw, a great find here with scores of short IDF videos from the Gaza battlefront: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfbjO2WznEk&index=45&list=UUawNWlihdgaycQpO3zi-jYg

anotherJoe on July 31, 2014 at 6:21 PM

This is the guy that Patrick Ishmael is including in the Hot Air surveys instead of Sarah Palin.

I mean, if you are going to put a throw away in the survey, why not put someone that will actually get some votes, since Joe had the votes of THREE people!

NWConservative on July 31, 2014 at 6:23 PM

Remember, this guy totally needed to be included on the HotAir straw poll. Because reasons.

Good Solid B-Plus on July 31, 2014 at 6:18 PM

Allah’s a RINO, or worse?

idesign on July 31, 2014 at 6:24 PM

Joe is not very bright. These TV hosts need to get out among the “Hoi Palloi” and away from their evening, drinking parties.

Vince on July 31, 2014 at 6:24 PM

Resist We Much on July 31, 2014 at 6:16 PM

I think Jimbo might have a nit or two to pick with that story….

Athos on July 31, 2014 at 6:24 PM

Oh come on, he works for MSNBC. Does anybody take him seriously, or for that matter watch him?

hestrold on July 31, 2014 at 6:18 PM

Ed Morrissey does

portlandon on July 31, 2014 at 6:27 PM

Well, look at what happened when Choomie threw away Iraq.

Clock.

Stopped.

You know the drill.

formwiz on July 31, 2014 at 6:29 PM

What’s even scarier than the rockets are the tunnels into Israel used to kill and kidnap Israelis. Also, don’t forget about the big Rosh Hashanah attack planned. I hope this sinks Scarborough for good. i can’t stand his weak mewings or pretending that he is a viable candidate for anything.

Blake on July 31, 2014 at 6:29 PM

Only Israel would be called upon to not respond to a terror state next door committing acts of terror and aggression. The only thing missing from such calls are references to the dirty Jews, and it seems like we’re not far off from people like Scarborough dropping that facade completely.

changer1701 on July 31, 2014 at 6:30 PM

MSNC employs so many Hamas mouthpieces that Scarborough, as another employee should be ignored. Just go on twitter and start reading the twitter feeds of their reporters over in gaza. They barely contain their joo hatred.

Blake on July 31, 2014 at 6:31 PM

MSNBC

Blake on July 31, 2014 at 6:32 PM

Ah, the yellow wing of the party weighs in.
Way to shrivel, you whiny little man boy, Joe.
Look, I saw a Hamas video package on Fox this morning……the drama of running two little girls into a hospital with a boy on a gurney running down the hall….all they needed was a boom and a “cut!” I don’t believe terrorist’s lies and I don’t believe their sudden love of their children. They send those same boys into Israel with suicide vests.
And, those little girls……they make them feel ashamed and treat them no better than their goats.
I stand with Israel and support them bombing Gaza out of existence. They have been warned too many times. Joe can just stand there with urine running down his leg. Like usual.

HornetSting on July 31, 2014 at 6:33 PM

Israel kills more “terrorist” children today. Yay for self defense. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/30/world-disgrace-gaza-un-shelter-school-israel

libfreeordie on July 31, 2014 at 6:33 PM

Where’s Cindy Mumford? Shouldn’t she be here cheerleading the murder of Palestinian children? That’s sort of her thing.

libfreeordie on July 31, 2014 at 6:35 PM

libfreeordie on July 31, 2014 at 6:35 PM

Shouldn’t you be cheerleading the way Islamists treat women and gays?

Resist We Much on July 31, 2014 at 6:36 PM

Where’s Cindy Mumford? Shouldn’t she be here cheerleading the murder of Palestinian children? That’s sort of her thing.

libfreeordie on July 31, 2014 at 6:35 PM

Maybe if Hamas stopped using them as shields . . . or building thei

NWConservative on July 31, 2014 at 6:37 PM

I give up. Its useless arguing with an admitted troll.

NWConservative on July 31, 2014 at 6:38 PM

Every 4th of July I ride down to SC and buy some artillery shells for fireworks fun. They are loud and bright and will scare the dickens out of you if you don’t know what’s coming. I wonder how many of those I would have to fire at a Libtards house before they became frightened and called the cops in fear? I’m thinking 1.

The Israelis live with missiles fired at them every day their entire lives. And they aint harmless fireworks either.

I propose a fireworks demonstration at Scarborough’s house, say 3 am? Should be quite an eye opening experience.

HotAirian on July 31, 2014 at 6:39 PM

FU, Joe! And libfreeordie….maroon!

tomshup on July 31, 2014 at 6:39 PM

Where’s Cindy Mumford? Shouldn’t she be here cheerleading the murder of Palestinian children? That’s sort of her thing.

libfreeordie on July 31, 2014 at 6:35 PM

Is your thing being an imbecile 24/7?

Here’s a simple question for you. Which of the founding fathers did not subscribe to the communitarian ethos Calhoun deploys to rationalize slavery? *sets sundial*

libfreeordie on August 21, 2013 at 9:30 AM

None. They weren’t nascent Commies like John C. Calhoun, and full blown Commies like you. Don’t you think you need to provide some proof for such a ridiculous smear there Mr. Calhoun? You’re a history perfesser, right?

NotCoach on August 21, 2013 at 9:36 AM

Oh dear God….hold on, give me 10 minutes.

libfreeordie on August 21, 2013 at 9:45 AM

Only 21 days left before we celebrate the one year anniversary of your cowardice!

NotCoach on July 31, 2014 at 6:40 PM

Hypocrite jerk Speaking from the safety of his newsroom. He has no worries of dodging rockets to bomb vested psycho Jihaddists for decades.

RdLake on July 31, 2014 at 6:40 PM

Where’s Cindy Mumford? Shouldn’t she be here cheerleading the murder of Palestinian children? That’s sort of her thing.

libfreeordie on July 31, 2014 at 6:35 PM

I think you have her confused with yourself, and Palestinians confused with Jews. But other than that, you’re right.

Fenris on July 31, 2014 at 6:42 PM

Until the welfare subsidies from the UN are turned off, these people will not feel the full sting of the stupidity of allowing killers to run their affairs.

J.B. Say on July 31, 2014 at 6:43 PM

Where’s Cindy Mumford? Shouldn’t she be here cheerleading the murder of Palestinian children? That’s sort of her thing.

libfreeordie on July 31, 2014 at 6:35 PM

What are you yammering about, buttboy? If someone lobbed three hundred EGGS at your mom’s basement, you would cower behind her and beg her to call the police. Just like Hamas.
It’s fun to see sweet Cindy Munford lives rent free in your empty head.

HornetSting on July 31, 2014 at 6:45 PM

More piffle from another narcissist.

Seth Halpern on July 31, 2014 at 6:50 PM

libfreeordie on July 31, 2014 at 6:35 PM

Heh.
Cindy rocks.
Because of what you said, I’d know that even if I never saw her posts.

22044 on July 31, 2014 at 6:50 PM

Missed you on the CA O-No-Care thread, libfree. Their premiums went down, and they were pi$$ed!

22044 on July 31, 2014 at 6:52 PM

Israel can’t oust Hamas because then Al Qaeda might take over; if Al Qaeda takes over, Israel can’t oust them or else ISIS might move in. If ISIS moves in, Israel can’t oust them or else a portal to hell will open in the ground and Hitler and Bin Laden will emerge from the earth to rule Gaza together. And so on

That cracked me up so hard. Bravo Allah.

Well let’s hope hope that the ground doesn’t open and Hitler and Bin Laden and Stalin and Pol Pot don’t come back and rule gaza together. XD

coolrepublica on July 31, 2014 at 6:53 PM

coolrepublica on July 31, 2014 at 6:53 PM

bluegills alter ego.

without the intelligence.

renalin on July 31, 2014 at 6:55 PM

bluegills alter ego.

without the intelligence.

renalin on July 31, 2014 at 6:55 PM

I will save this and show it to bluegill later. I am sure bluegill is going to love hearing that you think that he/she is intelligent. You are very kind. :-)

coolrepublica on July 31, 2014 at 6:58 PM

Joe Scarborough wouldn’t want to be associated with the wrongful death of anyone…

tetriskid on July 31, 2014 at 6:59 PM

Where’s Cindy Mumford? Shouldn’t she be here cheerleading the murder of Palestinian children? That’s sort of her thing.

libfreeordie on July 31, 2014 at 6:35 PM

Unlike you, Cindy doesn’t cheerlead for Hamas.

Because the entity that is control as to how many children will die is Hamas, not Israel.

Hamas is the entity using women and children as human shields.

Hamas is the entity that is using refugee camps, mosques, schools, and housing to store their missiles and weaponry for their effort to obliterate Israel and the Jews.

Hamas is effectively bombarding themselves as 1/3rd of all the missiles they fire at Israel actually land in Gaza on their civilian population.

Hamas can stop the carnage at anytime by stop firing missiles into Israel, destroy the tunnels they built (at the cost of 160 children’s lives – where’s YOUR outrage?), demilitarize, and recognize the right of Israel to exist.

Athos on July 31, 2014 at 7:02 PM

Hey Libfreeordie,,,, You want Cindy to answer while you still have not answered Nocoach????. Why don’t you answer him before someone answers your questions. Why are you worked about children,, after all don’t you want them all aborted or something like that?

garydt on July 31, 2014 at 7:09 PM

And that is Ed’s go to morning show

KBird on July 31, 2014 at 7:17 PM

Joe hasn’t a clue. Sad.

russedav on July 31, 2014 at 7:20 PM

Joe Scarborough on Israel: “We cannot be associated with this if this continues”

Who says we’re “associated” with Israel’s attack on rocket-launching sites in Gaza? This is just Israel defending itself, which has nothing to do with the United States.

Steve Z on July 31, 2014 at 7:21 PM

Scarborough’s right that Hamas was in deep trouble politically before the war began, but I don’t know what path he thinks Israel should have taken once the rockets started flying.

Give me a frigging break Allah. Three Israeli kids are murdered in Israeli administered area of the West Bank. Israel insists it was a Hamas operation, mass arrests, targeted asassinations, collective pounishment, blowing up homes, beatings, killings… basically ending the most successful truce that has ever existed between the two parties. Of course Hamas was going to launch rockets.

Shin-bet has already stated publicly that the murders were a rogue operation and the pair of suspects were acting on their own.

Hamas was on the ropes. They had no money, their fighters weren’t getting paid, then Israel threw them a lifeline.

lexhamfox on July 31, 2014 at 7:28 PM

More than a third of the 140 rockets fired by Hamas at Israel yesterday fell short and exploded inside the Gaza Strip, according to the Israeli Army spokesman’s office.

Rocket shortfalls have increased, according to Israeli military sources. They attribute these misfires to the intense pressure Hamas rocket squads face from Israeli air and artillery attacks, as well as poorly assembled rockets.

So the Gang of Terrorists that Can’t Shoot Straight is killing some of its own people, in addition to using them as human shields.

Hopefully the Israeli weapons are more accurate, and can put Hamas out of its misery.

The best thing that could happen to Gaza is for Israel to take over all territory within a rocket’s range of its borders, and send any unarmed Palestinians living there to the West Bank.

Steve Z on July 31, 2014 at 7:30 PM

Joe, blow it out your ear, or the orifice of your choice. You’re nothing but an overpaid talking head so back off.

rplat on July 31, 2014 at 7:33 PM

I thought the lesson of the Awakening in Iraq was that as jihadists crack down on the local population, resentment builds and steers people around to alternatives. That’s a hard lesson to grasp right now, after Maliki’s made a sectarian mess in Iraq and ISIS is in power in Anbar province, but look at Egypt: A year after the Muslim Brotherhood’s revolution, the anti-Islamist revolution snatched back power and sent Morsi to prison. Something “worse than Hamas” might be what convinces Palestinians in Gaza to accept Abbas and Fatah after all. Or maybe they’re ready now, provided Hamas can be finally dislodged.

I think that Egypt proves you want some kind of secular rule. If that means a military rule so be it. The “Awakening in Iraq: could only happen and continue as long as there were lots of American soldiers on the ground and we paid off the locals with cold hard cash. That can’t last forever, and any strategy that assumes it can will end in failure.

We need to get of our minds, western style republican democracy, and instead realize the Islamic world is not ready for that due to Islam. This we need to let the “people” choose their government is crazy in the Islamic world. Take a look at the polls in most Muslims countries, the vast majority of the “people” think people who leave Islam should be killed, the punishment for adultery (including women who are raped) should be death, etc.

That is not likely to produce a government friendly to the U.S. or to western civilization.

William Eaton on July 31, 2014 at 7:42 PM

Joe, Joe, Joe. So little time, and so much stupid.

Guess warfare has to be total and instant to succeed with the media.
This drip, drip, drip of attacks no longer works.
Total boom and get it over with.

albill on July 31, 2014 at 6:12 PM

That can be done. But it makes glass out of sand.

IrishEyes on July 31, 2014 at 7:43 PM

And the wizards that operate ‘HotAir’ are so out of touch with their readers that they include Joe Scarborough on their poll for presidential preference, while insisting that Sarah Palin does not belong.

I got news for y’all…Most of us are conservative. Even the RINOs amongst us wrinkle their noses at the mention of Morning Joe.

So I guess HotAir is THE place for the RINOs to hang out and solve the problems of the GOP. Sad, but not unexpected. I mean, you did bring Noah Rothman over from Mediaite to pander to the RINOs…

bimmcorp on July 31, 2014 at 7:43 PM

Joe hasn’t a clue. Sad.

russedav on July 31, 2014 at 7:20 PM

He hasn’t for quite awhile. He’s the Clueless Joe of the RINOs. It’s why he’s on MSNBC….

Athos on July 31, 2014 at 7:44 PM

Is this what it feels like, to be in 1938? Watching your own country, and indeed, the world, come together in an insane condemnation of the Jewish people? Holy shit, the half-truths, the obfuscations, the outright lies being told on our own news channels in support of Hamas, and Islam, and against Israel is absolutely mind-boggling… I believe the people who control Obama are seeing things go exactly the way they want… I hate them all.

Fathom on July 31, 2014 at 7:49 PM

Hey you all remember when Morning Jew got all pissed off at the hundreds of children Obama has killed in his drone strikes? Yeah King Barky be good at killin’the shillin….and it cool with the leftist media…real coooooool.

jukin3 on July 31, 2014 at 7:54 PM

Israel must refrain from destroying Hamas, or R’lyeh will rise from the depths of the South Pacific and Cthulhu will awake from His eternal slumbers and enslave mankind. Then they’ll REALLY be sorry they didn’t listen to the UN./

Aitch748 on July 31, 2014 at 7:56 PM

Give me a frigging break Allah. Three Israeli kids are murdered in Israeli administered area of the West Bank. Israel insists it was a Hamas operation, mass arrests, targeted asassinations, collective pounishment, blowing up homes, beatings, killings… basically ending the most successful truce that has ever existed between the two parties. Of course Hamas was going to launch rockets.

Shin-bet has already stated publicly that the murders were a rogue operation and the pair of suspects were acting on their own.

Hamas was on the ropes. They had no money, their fighters weren’t getting paid, then Israel threw them a lifeline.

lexhamfox on July 31, 2014 at 7:28 PM

Yeah, the ‘palestinians’ found that the murderers of those three Israelis hadn’t paid up for their Hamas membership cards, so the entire operation is illegitimate?

Those three, Hamas or not, did Israel a huge favor by triggering this, because Hamas was planning a huge surprise attack on Israel in September via their extensive tunnel system that might have killed hundreds of Israeli citizens. That’s how much Hamas was “on the ropes”.

slickwillie2001 on July 31, 2014 at 7:56 PM

Allah’s a RINO, or worse?

idesign on July 31, 2014 at 6:24 PM

Not AP’s decision. Patrick Ishmael heads up the straw poll.

Good Solid B-Plus on July 31, 2014 at 8:01 PM

Where’s Cindy Mumford? Shouldn’t she be here cheerleading the murder of Palestinian children? That’s sort of her thing.

libfreeordie on July 31, 2014 at 6:35 PM

Shouldn’t you be here hoping our kids get murdered? That’s sort of your thing.

Good Solid B-Plus on July 31, 2014 at 8:02 PM

Hey Libfreeordie,,,, You want Cindy to answer while you still have not answered Nocoach????. Why don’t you answer him before someone answers your questions. Why are you worked about children,, after all don’t you want them all aborted or something like that?

garydt on July 31, 2014 at 7:09 PM

Good point. Even if you believe the bullshit death toll of 1,300 that comes from Hamas, liberals in the US kill 3,200 children A DAY, every day, every year for the last thirty years.

slickwillie2001 on July 31, 2014 at 8:06 PM

This guy is a real idiot..not even mentioning that Hamas uses human shields to boost numbers of civilian deaths….Hamas are monsters and deserved to be wiped out completely

sadsushi on July 31, 2014 at 8:22 PM

This is the guy that Patrick Ishmael is including in the Hot Air surveys instead of Sarah Palin.

I mean, if you are going to put a throw away in the survey, why not put someone that will actually get some votes, since Joe had the votes of THREE people!

NWConservative on July 31, 2014 at 6:23 PM

Because she’s not running? I mean, I bet Joe won’t either, but at least he’s teased that he might (as horrible as a candidate as he’d be). Palin definitely isn’t running, even if 20 Million Voters all said “The only way I’ll vote is if Palin runs,”. She doesn’t want to run.

HikaruKitsune on July 31, 2014 at 8:37 PM

Decades of lobbing rockets into Israeli neighborhoods with no end in sight. This seems OK with the moronic hypocrites. Wonder what this puke would say if someone lobbed an explosive through his window?

RdLake on July 31, 2014 at 8:39 PM

And people are puzzled as to why CNN’s New Day has overtaken Morning Shmoe in the ratings.

Myron Falwell on July 31, 2014 at 9:31 PM

No one asked Joe Scarborough to be associated with Israeli Jews trying to save their families from terrorist murderers

Therefore no Israeli gives a crap what he thinks

TexasJew on July 31, 2014 at 10:34 PM

Israel kills more “terrorist” children today. Yay for self defense.

libfreeordie on July 31, 2014 at 6:33 PM

There is Nothing Less Immoral than Sacrificing Soldiers to Protect Enemy Civilians: By Moshe Feiglin

Shy Guy on July 31, 2014 at 11:09 PM

shorter lexhamfux: murder of Jewish kids is no biggie, Jews shouldn’t get all huffy about it. I had to laugh when you said “Hamas was on the ropes” as if you had *ever* said anything bad about them before – all you have ever done is blame it on da jooos. And you did it again, blaming Jews for your savage Hamas buddies firing rockets at Israeli civilians.

Let me give it to you straight, lexhamfux: the Hamas charter calls for the murder of JEWS.

Not Israelis.

Not Zionists.

Not “settlers”.

JEWS.

Hamas Charter

And you are totes down with it, Jew-baiter. The same way you’re down with Hamas using child labor to build the tunnels and civilians as human shields and any other kind of Arab-on-Arab slaughter that you can’t blame on Jews.

FOAF on August 1, 2014 at 1:21 AM

Who is the real enemy?

Shy Guy on August 1, 2014 at 5:26 AM

Where’s Cindy Mumford? Shouldn’t she be here cheerleading the murder of Palestinian children? That’s sort of her thing.

libfreeordie on July 31, 2014 at 6:35 PM

You’re the one that cheers murder, you useless clump of cells.

zoyclem on August 1, 2014 at 9:19 AM

YES, WE CAN!!!

Man, that’s the gift that keeps on giving…

JohnGalt23 on August 1, 2014 at 9:54 AM

Once again the only reason msnbc even gets an audience is because of HA and other media covering them.

earlgrey on August 1, 2014 at 10:52 AM

Dead interns hardest hit.

2lbsTest on August 1, 2014 at 10:55 AM

Hey Asshole Joe, got a mirror? Look in it – see that? THAT’s asinine.

PJ Emeritus on August 1, 2014 at 11:05 AM

Israel kills more “terrorist” children today. Yay for self defense. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/30/world-disgrace-gaza-un-shelter-school-israel

libfreeordie on July 31, 2014 at 6:33 PM

But a UN school should be safe… sure Hamas has stored rockets in 3 schools we know of in the past week, and was launching rockets FROM one school last week; but if you hide behind a child you should be allowed genocide of your enemies.

That’s your argument, right? Once you hide behind a child you should be allowed to commit genocide and kill whoever you want and trying to stop you is evil?

And here I thought liberals only support genocide as a numbers game (you have to have as many deaths as the people you want to kill, as war must be equal or something), but only one or a few children is enough to get support for full genocide of a people.

Wow, you’re even more in support of genocide than I thought.

Is this just for the Jews, or is all genocide and slaughter encouraged by liberals if you only hide behind a few children first?

I’m just trying to find out if genocide is a good thing here in general, or only if you’re killing Jews from the liberal view…

gekkobear on August 1, 2014 at 1:11 PM

It’s a good thing that Joe does not speak for America, so, STHP.

jacobim on August 1, 2014 at 6:12 PM