Is the world giving up on a two-state solution?

posted at 1:21 pm on July 30, 2014 by Noah Rothman

CNN’s foreign affairs guru, Fareed Zakaria, is melancholic.

The violence in Gaza, he is convinced, will not abate so long as the people of the Gaza Strip have no hope. He is convinced that Gaza residents will forever despair in their prospects not because of the lack of civil society, basic public services, or cultural brutality that has characterized life in the Strip since the terror group Hamas was elected to serve as the governing authority. No. For Zakaria, Gaza residents lack for hope because theirs is not a formally recognized state.

He expressed his despondency in a recent interview with CNN’s New Day:

In the long term I would say the problem is this – what is his strategy? At the end of the day, you have the occupation for 47 years. In 2008, Ehud Olmert had a similar war against Gaza. I was more sympathetic then, because Olmert was engaged in a serious negotiation with the Palestinians to try to create a two-state solution. Benjamin Netanyahu has done essentially no negotiating with the Palestinians on that front. So it’s fair to say you are right in the short term, but what is the long-term strategy? Are you going to be back here a year from now, five years from now?

On Tuesday, Zakaria echoed his lament over the lack of any serious push for a two-state solution amid a war. He noted that anti-Hamas forces have been trying to neutralize that group by military means for 20 years with no success. It seems absurd to suggest that a strategy that has failed for 20 years should be replaced with a strategy that has failed for 60 years, and an increasing number of serious international actors are coming to that same conclusion.

According to British Prime Minster David Cameron, the “facts on the ground” are “beginning to make a two-state solution impossible.”

This statement comes months after Secretary of State John Kerry sounded a note of skepticism about the increasingly unviability of a two-state solution. “I think we have some period of time—in one to one-and-a-half to two years—or it’s over,” the secretary said at a House hearing months before the latest conflict.

What has been become clear in recent weeks, even for those only marginally familiar with the geopolitical landscape in the Levant, is that a two-state solution is no longer viable because the world is essentially dealing with three distinct political entities in this region. In spite of a recently concluded power-sharing deal between Hamas and the West Bank-based Palestinian Authority, Gaza and the West Bank are no longer one state divided but two states with divergent political cultures and contradictory governments.

This conclusion has been on display since the start of this conflict and has become inescapable in recent days.

On Tuesday, Nabil Shaath, a former Palestinian Authority foreign minister, was blindsided live on CNN with the news Hamas had just rejected a ceasefire proposal put forward by authorities in the West Bank. His shock and confusion was visibly apparent.

The divergence in preferred tactics between PA officials and Hamas was on display yet again on Wednesday when Palestinian Parliament Member and former presidential candidate, Mustafa Barghouti, essentially condemned Hamas’s terms of engagement.

In spite of his effort to devote all of his censure to Israeli behavior, Barghouti’s admission that Hamas and/or Islamic Jihad storing weapons of war in schools represent a “violation” of international law is significant. This is the kind of rhetoric that one does not hear coming out of Gaza.

Though they remain one people with a unified culture, the West Bank and Gaza are divided today by both geography and politics. More tenuous circumstances than those have catalyzed the founding of independent and sovereign states in the past.

The two-state solution may not be entirely dead, but it does seem to have outlived its usefulness.


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Kerry speaks French.

Schadenfreude on July 30, 2014 at 1:22 PM

CNN’s foreign affairs guru, Fareed Zakaria, is melancholic.

Plagiarist, like HA’s Ned Pepper.

Schadenfreude on July 30, 2014 at 1:23 PM

Hamas does want a two-state solution: The Palestinian State and the Arab State.

Wino on July 30, 2014 at 1:24 PM

Zakaria should always be shunned as an America and Israel hater. Period.

He has NO credibility, never had any, but was rehabilitated just because he is the son of his marxist parents.

Schadenfreude on July 30, 2014 at 1:24 PM

Honestly – who ever thought a two state solution had a prayer of a chance?

jake-the-goose on July 30, 2014 at 1:26 PM

CNN’s foreign affairs guru, Fareed Zakaria, is melancholic

He’s addicted to dark meat?

Flange on July 30, 2014 at 1:26 PM

Yeah, because terrorist savages intent on killing pretty much everyone would suddenly become peaceful if only their craphole were formally recognized as a nation.

They exist on hate, to hate, for hate’s sake, and until the PAL people at large decide they don’t want to live like cavemen then they will continue to be treated like cavemen.

Bishop on July 30, 2014 at 1:30 PM

I support a one-state solution: Israel. Hamas can go @#%! themselves and die.

Othniel on July 30, 2014 at 1:32 PM

When Palestinians care more about the well being of their children than killing Israelis maybe there will be a chance at peace in the region. Maybe.

Shtetl G on July 30, 2014 at 1:33 PM

Israel tried that already.

It removed its settlements there. It gave these savages what they wanted. “Land for Peace.”

This is recent history.

What did the world get? Peace? What did Israel get for giving up the Gaza strip? Peace?

No. Rocket attacks, terrorism and kidnappings is what it got.

There is no such thing as a ‘two-state solution’ when one of the heads of state’s condition for peace is the annihilation of the other and the dissolution of Israel.

Good Lt on July 30, 2014 at 1:34 PM

Gaza residents will never have hope as long as schools are used to hide rockets. The entire purpose of their government is to kill their neighbors rather than providing services. What little sympathy I could have had for them has evaporated with their utter disregard for their own well being. If tomorrow the Israelis declared that wet Arabs was an affront to the Jewish state, the Gaza residents would run into the sea en masse.

trubble on July 30, 2014 at 1:34 PM

Fareed Zakaria smokes feces laced butt crack…

oscarwilde on July 30, 2014 at 1:35 PM

Anyone who professes hope for a 2 state solution when one of those states is hell-bent on destroying the other is practicing self delusion. Hamas and Fatah have always maintained that the destruction of Israel is their only goal and only possible outcome. That’s why the “Palestinians” live in such poor conditions. They put all of their time, energy and resources in waging neverending war.

HotAirian on July 30, 2014 at 1:36 PM

Israeli-Palestinian conflict
14m
White House: US condemns Israel’s shelling of UN school in Gaza Strip. – @AP
see original on twitter.com

canopfor on July 30, 2014 at 1:36 PM

There is only one possible solution and it is a 1 culture / nation solution. Unfortunately the only workable path is a bloody genocidal one.

Skwor on July 30, 2014 at 1:36 PM

Obama health care law
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Report: Officials say a nonpartisan investigative report concludes that management failures by the White House set the stage for the computer problems that paralyzed the HealthCare.gov website last fall – @AP

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canopfor on July 30, 2014 at 1:37 PM

I support a one-state solution: Israel. Hamas can go @#%! themselves and die.

Othniel on July 30, 2014 at 1:32 PM

I’ll second that motion.

dentarthurdent on July 30, 2014 at 1:37 PM

There never was a Two-State solution.

The Muslims reject the legitimacy of Israel (in totality), and so no peace is actually possible.

nobar on July 30, 2014 at 1:37 PM

A two-state solution would be theoretically possible if the Palestinians would give up their arms and embrace Israel in peace. Peace will come when the Palestinians stop fighting. Then and only then will two states exist.

Of course, if you put an infinite number of monkeys in an infinitely large room with an infinite number of typewriters, in theory one of them must type out the complete works of shakespeare — along with every written work that has existed or ever will exist. Anything’s possible.

/ptooey

gryphon202 on July 30, 2014 at 1:38 PM

The geography of Gaza will never lend itself to a peaceful solution.

Schadenfreude on July 30, 2014 at 1:39 PM

White House: US condemns Israel’s shelling of UN school in Gaza Strip. – @AP
see original on twitter.com

canopfor on July 30, 2014 at 1:36 PM

Maybe the UN shouldn’t be letting terrorists use their schools for rocket storage and launch pads….

dentarthurdent on July 30, 2014 at 1:39 PM

The Associated Press @AP · 9s

MORE: It’s the sharpest criticism the U.S. has leveled at Israel over the more than three weeks of fighting: http://apne.ws/1Aze5Xs

https://twitter.com/AP

canopfor on July 30, 2014 at 1:41 PM

White House: US condemns Israel’s shelling of UN school in Gaza Strip. – @AP
see original on twitter.com

canopfor on July 30, 2014 at 1:36 PM

Maybe the UN shouldn’t be letting terrorists use their schools for rocket storage and launch pads….

dentarthurdent on July 30, 2014 at 1:39 PM

If only the UN were as intolerant about weapons in their schools as our schools are of weapon shaped pop tarts…..

dentarthurdent on July 30, 2014 at 1:41 PM

canopfor on July 30, 2014 at 1:36 PM

Maybe the UN shouldn’t be letting terrorists use their schools for rocket storage and launch pads….

dentarthurdent on July 30, 2014 at 1:39 PM

dentarthurdent: Exactly,…Hopeys True Colours are once again,
showing:)

canopfor on July 30, 2014 at 1:42 PM

It was never a realistic idea.

Red Widow on July 30, 2014 at 1:42 PM

Good grief.
Unbelievable, the level of anti-Semitism out there.

OT
House Dems currently playing stupid games on the floor. Circling the wagons to protect the Putz of the United States.

freedomfirst on July 30, 2014 at 1:43 PM

Kerry speaks French.

Schadenfreude on July 30, 2014 at 1:22 PM

Too bad he doesn’t speak Palestinian. I bet his boss does, though.

HiJack on July 30, 2014 at 1:44 PM

I don’t believe in the two state solution anymore either. Hamas isn’t interested in a state, it’s only interested in furthering global jehad. Arafat, for all his faults wanted a state for his people. This lot don’t.

Esperanza on July 30, 2014 at 1:45 PM

They don’t need 2 states.

A Pal is safer and freer under the Israelis.

formwiz on July 30, 2014 at 1:47 PM

There is only one possible solution and it is a 1 culture / nation solution…

Skwor on July 30, 2014 at 1:36 PM

I’m confused. Are you talking about Israel or the United States?

HiJack on July 30, 2014 at 1:47 PM

ParaJihadyGlide Terrorists:

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canopfor on July 30, 2014 at 1:48 PM

deuteronomy 2:33-2:3533the Lord our God gave him over to us; and we struck him down, along with his offspring and all his people. 34At that time we captured all his towns, and in each town we utterly destroyed men, women, and children. We left not a single survivor. 35Only the livestock we kept as spoil for ourselves, as well as the plunder of the towns that we had captured.

This verse is in reference to an Amorite king and land east of Jordan, mostly the same lands in dispute now. The tragic and only solution has been around for a very long time and will eventually be completed in full. There is nothing new or original happing between Israel and Hamas, only some names of the cultures have changed.

Skwor on July 30, 2014 at 1:48 PM

Me thinks, Team Hopey is Acting Stupidly:

The Associated Press @AP · 21s

MORE: The U.S. did not identify who shelled the school, but Israeli military said it returned fire from the vicinity: http://apne.ws/1qLgBYG

canopfor on July 30, 2014 at 1:49 PM

Democrats have known and understood for years that Israel is a cancer in the Middle East and human rights in general. How many more years will we continue to support their abusive and horrendous human rights policies? If we can successfully manage to cut off American support for Israel, she would eventually be forced to adopt the fair treatment policies of her Muslim neighbors.

President Obama and liberal Americans have made outstanding progress. One day we will finally achieve our dream of a Muslim-controlled Israel. …an Israel in which homosexuals will finally be free to express themselves and an Israel in which women will finally get a voice in their government.

Frank Lib on July 30, 2014 at 1:50 PM

Two-States, er, Countries, er,…

……Boink No!

canopfor on July 30, 2014 at 1:51 PM

Yeah, I kinda gave up on co-habitating with a rattlesnake in my bedroom.

Despite multiple bites/envenomations, we just couldn’t make it work. Still, I can’t help but feel like I failed the beast.

Jedditelol on July 30, 2014 at 1:51 PM

I support the one state solution.

annoyinglittletwerp on July 30, 2014 at 1:52 PM

Klavan’s One-State Solution: Give the Middle East to the Jews

Socratease on July 30, 2014 at 1:52 PM

Frank Lib on July 30, 2014 at 1:50 PM

Not biting, there is more sarcasm in your non de plume than your post, nice try though.

Skwor on July 30, 2014 at 1:53 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on July 30, 2014 at 1:52 PM

No fair.

Socratease on July 30, 2014 at 1:53 PM

Im good with Israel just taking back Gaza it’s better then Hamas keeping it to fire rockets from and conduct terror operations.

sorrowen on July 30, 2014 at 1:54 PM

Socratease on July 30, 2014 at 1:52 PM

Look at my comment above yours.
Great minds…

annoyinglittletwerp on July 30, 2014 at 1:54 PM

Socratease on July 30, 2014 at 1:53 PM

Ha Ha.

annoyinglittletwerp on July 30, 2014 at 1:54 PM

Starting to wonder if Israel should be destroying those tunnels.

Control them and they could be useful.

MichaelGabriel on July 30, 2014 at 1:55 PM

This verse is in reference to an Amorite king and land east of Jordan, mostly the same lands in dispute now.

Skwor on July 30, 2014 at 1:48 PM

Uhhh – you do know that EAST of Jordan is Saudi Arabia and Iraq, right?

dentarthurdent on July 30, 2014 at 1:55 PM

Democrats have known and understood for years that Israel is a cancer in the Middle East and human rights in general. How many more years will we continue to support their abusive and horrendous human rights policies? If we can successfully manage to cut off American support for Israel, she would eventually be forced to adopt the fair treatment policies of her Muslim neighbors.
President Obama and liberal Americans have made outstanding progress. One day we will finally achieve our dream of a Muslim-controlled Israel. …an Israel in which homosexuals will finally be free to express themselves and an Israel in which women will finally get a voice in their government.
Frank Lib on July 30, 2014 at 1:50 PM
Lol you my friend are damn good at liberal satire and mockery keep it up :)

sorrowen on July 30, 2014 at 1:55 PM

Frank Lib on July 30, 2014 at 1:50 PM

THAT was a good one.

dentarthurdent on July 30, 2014 at 1:56 PM

Good news though we found out Cruz,Bardem are anti Semitic idiots…from Spain who are also communists…well Bardem is the fool…

sorrowen on July 30, 2014 at 1:58 PM

Democrats have known and understood for years that Israel is a cancer in the Middle East and human rights in general.

Frank Lib on July 30, 2014 at 1:50 PM

Frank Lib:

Israelis have known and understood for years that LibTards is a cancer in the United states and human rights in general.

President Obama and liberal Americans have made Failed progress.

One day we will finally achieve our dream of a Muslim-controlled ProgTards in DemocratLand in which homosexuals will finally be free to express themselves and an DemoTardLand in which women will finally stop killing their mistakes of one night stands and will
be paid by their government.

canopfor on July 30, 2014 at 1:59 PM

Frank Lib on July 30, 2014 at 1:50 PM
Lol you my friend are damn good at liberal satire and mockery keep it up :)

sorrowen on July 30, 2014 at 1:55 PM

I wouldn’t be surprised to see the same stuff from our libtard trolls – but intending it as totally serious.

dentarthurdent on July 30, 2014 at 2:00 PM

Uhhh – you do know that EAST of Jordan is Saudi Arabia and Iraq, right?

dentarthurdent on July 30, 2014 at 1:55 PM

He’s talking about the Jordan River, not the nation of Jordan. That is clear from the context in the Bible, when the river existed but the nation did not.

Crank Lib on July 30, 2014 at 1:50 PM

Must not feed the troll… must not feed the troll …

jwolf on July 30, 2014 at 2:01 PM

According to British Prime Minster David Cameron, the “facts on the ground” are “beginning to make a two-state solution impossible.”

Facts on the ground are beginning to…..? WTF???

It has long been known that a two-state solution is impossible so long as one of the states has the eradication of the other state as a goal.

Happy Nomad on July 30, 2014 at 2:01 PM

Uhhh – you do know that EAST of Jordan is Saudi Arabia and Iraq, right?

dentarthurdent on July 30, 2014 at 1:55 PM

Yes, I see where my post implies specifically east of Jordan but I was referncing other areas as well. I should have explained more. Sorry my fault on that

Skwor on July 30, 2014 at 2:03 PM

Frank Lib on July 30, 2014 at 1:50 PM
Lol you my friend are damn good at liberal satire and mockery keep it up :)
sorrowen on July 30, 2014 at 1:55 PM
I wouldn’t be surprised to see the same stuff from our libtard trolls – but intending it as totally serious.
dentarthurdent on July 30, 2014 at 2:00 PM
Well at least we get amusement via Kerry crashing and buring with the talks trying to save what’s left of Hamas which won’t be much by the sound of it lol. War is brutal and innocence die liberals just do not get that or they just refuse reality which they do all the time anyway.

sorrowen on July 30, 2014 at 2:06 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on July 30, 2014 at 1:52 PM

That would work.

wifarmboy on July 30, 2014 at 2:11 PM

It seems absurd to suggest that a strategy that has failed for 20 years should be replaced with a strategy that has failed for 60 years,

Try 1,300yrs. Close for enough for CNN I guess.

CW20 on July 30, 2014 at 2:14 PM

There is only one possible solution and it is a 1 culture / nation solution…

Skwor on July 30, 2014 at 1:36 PM

Ein Volk etc…

lexhamfox on July 30, 2014 at 2:15 PM

Seventh century savages, currently called muslims, don’t understand anything other than force. By giving an inch they will take a mile. At their core they are cowards and when punched in the nose will run away. They know this and leftists know this because it is yet another commonality between the two groups.

jukin3 on July 30, 2014 at 2:17 PM

Ein Volk etc…

lexhamfox on July 30, 2014 at 2:15 PM

Zwei folk isn’t working.

wifarmboy on July 30, 2014 at 2:20 PM

https://twitter.com/markknoller

Matt Lee @APDiploWriter · 1h

Hiding rockets in/shelling of UN #Gaza facilities “inconsistent w/UN neutrality,” per @whitehouse. “underscores need to achieve a CF asap.”

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US “extremely concerned 1000s of #Palestinian IDPs (told) by #Israel to evacuate their homes are not safe in UN shelters,” per @WhiteHouse

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“The United States condemns the shelling of a #UNRWA school in #Gaza,” per @WhiteHouse, also condemns hiding of rockets in schools. #Israel

canopfor on July 30, 2014 at 2:24 PM

A two state solution would be perfectly tenable if the Palestinians weren’t Palestinians.

If Gaza City were somehow randomly inhabited by 3 million Canadians, there would already be two states. Israel and Sandskatchewan would live together in peace and harmony and probably be major economic partners.

The Palestinians are savages and the ONLY solution the Palestinians will accept is one in which there is no Israel and 100% of the territory of Israel is under Muslim rule.

TaraMaclay on July 30, 2014 at 2:25 PM

What is there to give up on?

The Palestinians have become a death cult. When given a chance, they opt for Hamas and the murderous genocide it proposes for its neighbors. Not exactly a building block for a State. A State prison, maybe.

Hucklebuck on July 30, 2014 at 2:31 PM

I support the one state solution.

annoyinglittletwerp on July 30, 2014 at 1:52 PM

ALT: Watched it when it came out, thanks for refreshing my
memory, and its priceless—-:0

canopfor on July 30, 2014 at 2:31 PM

Fareed Zakaria, is melancholic.

Well, Boooo hooo. ={} << worlds smallest violin, playing just for him.

He's sad because his terrorist pals are getting justifiably eradicated.

dogsoldier on July 30, 2014 at 2:32 PM

Frank Lib on July 30, 2014 at 1:50 PM

This, Ladies and Gents, is what perfect sarc looks like. Good sarc never needs tags. Conratutlations FL!

Schadenfreude on July 30, 2014 at 3:02 PM

This entire conversation continues to be stupid. Hamas openly states in writing and word that they want the Jews dead and want Israel to cease to exist.

So, as I have asked since around 9/12/01, how does one negotiate with someone who only wants you to die?

deepdiver on July 30, 2014 at 3:22 PM

He’s talking about the Jordan River, not the nation of Jordan. That is clear from the context in the Bible, when the river existed but the nation did not.
jwolf on July 30, 2014 at 2:01 PM

Still – the “lands in dispute now” – i.e. the West Bank and Gaza, for that matter all of Israel – are west of Jordan and the River Jordan.

Yes, I see where my post implies specifically east of Jordan but I was referncing other areas as well. I should have explained more. Sorry my fault on that

Skwor on July 30, 2014 at 2:03 PM

Gotcha – no prob.
My wife is “geographically challenged” – so I have an automatic tendancy to try to correct geographic inaccuracies when I see them.

dentarthurdent on July 30, 2014 at 3:40 PM

So, as I have asked since around 9/12/01, how does one negotiate with someone who only wants you to die?

deepdiver on July 30, 2014 at 3:22 PM

Same way the humans did in the movie Independence Day.

dentarthurdent on July 30, 2014 at 3:41 PM

The Palestinians have become a death cult. When given a chance, they opt for Hamas and the murderous genocide it proposes for its neighbors. Not exactly a building block for a State. A State prison, maybe.

Hucklebuck on July 30, 2014 at 2:31 PM

Wall off Gaza, entirely, nobody in or out – a la Escape From New York.

dentarthurdent on July 30, 2014 at 3:43 PM

A two state solution was never workable. As long as the Arabs have only the destruction of Israel in mind, there is no hope of a solution. Since the destruction of Israel is all the Arabs have in mind, there will be no peace.

Quartermaster on July 30, 2014 at 3:51 PM

Two state + one parking lot solution?

rbj on July 30, 2014 at 3:52 PM

Two state is dead. The Palestinians need to accept that there is no right of return. They can live in the West Bank as a protectorate.

If Gaza might be demilitarized, perhaps some capital investment could show the people to a better life. They do have some agriculture (left by the settlers) and they have some know how (tunnels) that perhaps could give some sort of economy. Living as perpetual refugees on the UN dole hasnt worked so well.

Rich on July 30, 2014 at 4:12 PM

Only useful idiots believe in the bogus nonsense of “a two-state solution” to the Middle East’s problems. Islam’s cardinal tenet is that Israel must be destroyed. Period. Anyone who opines otherwise is a useful idiot (I first wrote “anyone who thinks otherwise” until I realized that such an otherwise is not thinking at all, but mere useful idiocy like that which controlled the people of the USSR & the 3rd Reich and now the West, especially the US 0bama-led Dems & the UK Cameron-led Labour (since his own Torries rightly rejected his deranged sodomizing of the land to destroy true marriage with a fraud that destroyed ancient empires as it will the west)). But hey, just repeat a lie enough and useful idiots will buy anything. God save us.

russedav on July 30, 2014 at 4:15 PM

Is the world giving up on a two-state solution?

Only a fool would have held that hope to begin with.

zoyclem on July 30, 2014 at 4:42 PM

canopfor on July 30, 2014 at 1:37 PM

Has anyone ever told you how annoying you are with your cut and paste “breaking news stories”?

You seem like a nice person, but please stop it. No one needs to wade through your meaningless stuff. I like Canadians, but I’m starting to think we need to start lobbing water balloons on your house until you stop this nonsense.

ZeusGoose on July 30, 2014 at 5:22 PM

Anyone who tells you they believe that the Palestinians want Peace with Israel is a tool or deliberately misleading you. The Palestinian definition of “Peace” is a map without Israel and a world without Jews.

Bob_B on July 30, 2014 at 5:24 PM

Benchmarking against WWII, we occupied Germany and Japan until they agreed to our terms for peace.

America would have controlled them for thousands of years if a satisfactory treaty had not been accepted.

Israel should hold out for an equivalent agreement .

We didn’t confer American citizenship on the Germans and Japanese by occupying those countries.

Israel shouldn’t let any group or person claim Israeli citizenship during any occupation.

goatweed on July 30, 2014 at 5:24 PM

ZeusGoose on July 30, 2014 at 5:22 PM

Please cease your attack on the awesome Canop!
We old-timers LIKE what he posts.

annoyinglittletwerp on July 30, 2014 at 5:34 PM

There already is a two-state solution: Tiny Israel and the Arab world with it’s huge tracts of land.

The Rogue Tomato on July 30, 2014 at 7:46 PM