Chuck Todd: Democrats and Republicans should be embarrassed by this impeachment nonsense

posted at 8:01 pm on July 30, 2014 by Guy Benson

Todd’s critique assumes a capacity for embarrassment, which rarely seems to be a feature of this crew’s modus operandi:

“Josh Earnest is sitting at the podium trying to tick off names of, ‘Ooh, look at the Republicans who want impeachment.’ It’s not serious,” Todd said. “… I think the White House ought to be embarrassed for how they’re trying to play this.” Separately, Todd criticized Republican lawmakers who intend to sue the president for failing to uphold certain provisions of Obamacare, arguing that the president is acting outside the law. “Boehner’s up there with this ridiculous lawsuit,” Todd said. “Boehner — the idea he’s saying, ‘We’re not talking impeachment, the lawsuit?’ Please. That’s about placating the impeachment caucus in his own party. This is an embarrassing moment for everyone in Washington. The leaders of both parties, they’re driving away people from the polls, driving people away from politics. This is cynical. It’s ugly. It’s disgusting.”

Todd’s “pox on both houses” indignation is misplaced.  Democrats’ absurd impeachment frenzy is a transparent attempt to drive donations and whip up a lethargic and demoralized base.  On the former score, at least, they’ve been hugely successful — thanks to a shameless full-court press and a credulous, reactionary base.  Every relevant elected Republican has made clear that impeachment is not on the table, which was decidedly not the case when Democrats were agitating to impeach George W. Bush during his second term in office.  By contrast, the Boehner lawsuit (click through for a myth-busting NRO primer) underscores a very serious separation of powers concern held by virtually all Republicans, and some intellectually honest lefties.  Whether one agrees with the suit as a vehicle for addressing those concerns is another story, but the underlying issue is real and legitimate.  It’s not “ridiculous.”  (Was it ridiculous when Senate Republicans sued the president over his illegal “recess” appointments, which the Supreme Court invalidated 9-0?)  One side is engaging in “cynical, ugly, disgusting” posturing here, and the other is not.  Is there a base-pleasing aspect to the lawsuit?  Sure.  Are Republicans above stupid and insulting panderfests?  Not at all.  But the equivalency argument in this context is bunk.  Interestingly, Todd worries about 2014 degenerating into an “awful base election.”  Perhaps that’s the former Democratic staffer in him giving voice to the party’s well-founded anxiety about how a “base election” might turn out this year, especially with independents breaking the way they are.  Oh, and Democratic campaign committees and the White House aren’t the only folks loudly clanging the impeachment cowbell:

In a related story:

I do believe an aforementioned TV news journalist has his own show on the Impeachment Network.


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MSNBC should go back to wall to wall coverage of last year’s New Jersey lane closure kerfuffle.

forest on July 30, 2014 at 8:05 PM

… but never the sycophantic LSM whore propagandists pushing the meme!

ShainS on July 30, 2014 at 8:05 PM

Yes they should..

Impeachment is for rapist Presidents…..

Not a president that lies, cheats and destroys America…..

Electrongod on July 30, 2014 at 8:07 PM

It’s ugly. It’s disgusting.”

Takes one to know one

entagor on July 30, 2014 at 8:07 PM

Chuck Todd still getting his marching orders from Media Matters … in collaboration with the White House.

Carnac on July 30, 2014 at 8:08 PM

Todd- the embarrassment is you…you fluffer.

CW on July 30, 2014 at 8:09 PM

MSNBC, CNN and all the rest of the State-Run media are all blocked in my house.

The GOPe “leadership” in the House will only pursue those methods of opposition that only give the APPEARANCE they’re opposing Obama.

All while simultaneously taking every REAL method of opposition completely off the table.

Meople on July 30, 2014 at 8:09 PM

Nope. Not embarrassed at all.

katy the mean old lady on July 30, 2014 at 8:11 PM

Seriously, over-hyping a minor local scandal like the NJ bridge is less ridiculous than basing the bulk of their programming on an entirely bogus impeachment fantasy.

forest on July 30, 2014 at 8:11 PM

I’m getting the feeling the Choom Gang is starting to worry the I thing may catch on.

formwiz on July 30, 2014 at 8:13 PM

Wow, a rare moment of honesty about the dims from Todd.

And hilarious to see MSLSD in the basement where they belong.

cat_owner on July 30, 2014 at 8:13 PM

The only question is “Has he committed impeachable offenses?” A constitutional lawyer should list them and present them and the legal basis.
Then we can have a conversation.

Connecticut on July 30, 2014 at 8:18 PM

Journalists should be embarrassed by not only by Chuck Todd, but the oceans of water they carry for the Administration.

Athos on July 30, 2014 at 8:19 PM

false equivalence.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on July 30, 2014 at 8:19 PM

Chuck Todd is cynical, ugly and disgusting.

VorDaj on July 30, 2014 at 8:27 PM

The only question is “Has he committed impeachable offenses?” A constitutional lawyer should list them and present them and the legal basis.
Then we can have a conversation.

Connecticut on July 30, 2014 at 8:18 PM

Here’s one retired Constitutional lawyers take (12 counts) from two years ago: ‘Obama’s Impeachable Offenses’ by Michael Connelly, J.D.

ShainS on July 30, 2014 at 8:37 PM

Palin’s impeachment calls are cynical and self-serving as well.

Just thought I’d throw that out there.

Let’s get this thread started.

faraway on July 30, 2014 at 8:37 PM

Any actual Democrat who still exists in that party should be ashamed of the Marxist take over and the fascist governing style of Dear Liar, dingy Harry and Empress Pelosi.

rbj on July 30, 2014 at 8:38 PM

Whether one agrees with the suit as a vehicle for addressing those concerns is another story, but the underlying issue is real and legitimate.

So is impeachment. And the funny thing is Obama can fund raise and encourage turnout on this just like he could over impeachment. But I guess that’s only a bad thing some of the time.

(Was it ridiculous when Senate Republicans sued the president over his illegal “recess” appointments, which the Supreme Court invalidated 9-0?)

Pretty much. What happened as a result of that? Were any of those appointees removed? Was anything they did during their illegal appointments invalidated? Was Obama punished in any way over doing something everyone already knew he wasn’t allowed to do? No.

But yeah, they showed Obama who was boss, didn’t they? He’s been flying straight ever since then, right? Boehner has him running scared. He’ll never pass that illegal amnesty EO he was planning now.

xblade on July 30, 2014 at 8:38 PM

Chuck Todd , Democrat party operative .

Unaffiliated4P on July 30, 2014 at 8:39 PM

The only question is “Has he committed impeachable offenses?” A constitutional lawyer should list them and present them and the legal basis.
Then we can have a conversation.

Connecticut

Yes he has. Listen to a replay of tonight’s Mark Levin show for more details.

xblade on July 30, 2014 at 8:41 PM

false equivalence.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on July 30, 2014 at 8:19 PM

Fake brain.

RickB on July 30, 2014 at 8:41 PM

lol! Oh, come on, you guys! He said his own party is an embarrassment. Give him some credit.

He has to say something bashing Republicans. Not only does he have a show to worry about on a tanking network, it’s in his contract… and his DNA.

Birds gotta fly, fish gotta swim, Democrats gotta lie:)

thatsafactjack on July 30, 2014 at 8:42 PM

Republican party “attacks” Democrat President by insisting he carry out Democrat legislation. Brilliant.

Step right up folks! Get your program! Can’t tell the dogs from the ponies without a program!

S. D. on July 30, 2014 at 8:44 PM

Slow news day….

d1carter on July 30, 2014 at 8:46 PM

It’s always a good idea to let Chuck Todd and Nate Silver set the political narrative. I’m sure the have the long term interests of conservatives in mind.

sauldalinsky on July 30, 2014 at 8:47 PM

Both parties should be ashamed because neither is willing to do the right thing. The right thing would be to kick Zer0 to the curb for his violations of the law.

The DimoKKKraps are unwilling to do the right thing because they are simply corrupt to the core of their being. Clinton would have been thrown out for obstruction of justice and perjury if they had an microgram of decency in them.

Quartermaster on July 30, 2014 at 8:50 PM

false equivalence.

ThisIsYourBrainOnKoch on July 30, 2014 at 8:19 PM

You can pickup your two bits on they way out.
/

Seriously, you’re an idiot.

CW on July 30, 2014 at 8:56 PM

Impeachment is NOT removal from office. It’s equivalent to indictment, not conviction. If we learned anything from Clinton’s impeachment it should be that removal of a President requires large part of his own party to vote against him in the Senate and the Democrats will never do that. They care more about power than what’s right.

The House can impeach, i.e. charge, but the Senate has to convict and it takes a two-thirds vote to do so. Unless the GOP controlled the Senate with about 3/4 majority, it couldn’t count on a conviction. Nixon resigned because he was losing GOP support in the Senate and probably would have been removed from office had he been impeached. But Obama can count on the media campaigning against a conviction and stiffening the backbone of the Dems.

Clinton’s impeachment turned the country against the GOP and raised his support in the polls. The public doesn’t like it.

flataffect on July 30, 2014 at 9:08 PM

with luck Impeachment will be HB #1 of the next congress!!

KenInIL on July 30, 2014 at 9:17 PM

Clinton’s impeachment turned the country against the GOP and raised his support in the polls. The public doesn’t like it.

Obama, is not Clinton. I’d argue, no matter what ‘the public’ thinks is beside the point.

Simply put. Did, or has Obama violated his oath of office, by not consulting Congress when letting prisoners out of Gitmo? I stick to that, because its easily testable. Either Obama consulted with Congress (Which is his law…) or he did not?

Lindsey Graham(mush), sure thought that if Obama did it again (not consult Congress)when letting prisoners out of Gitmo, Obama should be impeached. If its impeachable on the second offence, surely it must be on the first?

If Obama violated the law, or summarily rewrote a law without following the correct path, he must be impeached and convicted. Otherwise we no longer have a county run by rule of law but by a dictator.

Sharr on July 30, 2014 at 9:24 PM

Exclusive: Illegal Alien Crime Victims Invite Boehner And His Family The Border And Plead For Enforcement

Yeah, Chuck, it’s just ridiculous that Republicans might consider impeaching Obama for threatening to break the law by granting millions of adult illegal aliens amnesty by his will alone, legislating from his desk, once again, via executive order.

After all, protecting American citizens and legal immigrants from the predation of illegal aliens, exactly what federal immigration legislation was designed, drafted, and passed into law to do, is just so ridiculous.

Expecting the president of the United States to ‘faithfully execute the law’ is just so ridiculous.

But not nearly so ridiculous, Chuck, as Democrats thinking that they could shatter the law, trample the constitution, and spit in the eye of the American people and still manage to keep their seat in the political class. Ask Eric Cantor.

thatsafactjack on July 30, 2014 at 9:32 PM

ABC Radio was whoring for DNC against the lawsuit as “partisan” so NBC and ABC have their marching orders.

viking01 on July 30, 2014 at 9:48 PM

Chuck, I hate to break it to you; but Ron Fournier has this territory staked out already. Of course working the ‘middle of the road’ angle will get you a gig at FoxNews now. I just hope you don’t sit there and go ‘Well, what do you think Charles’ like you’re searching for approval for your opinion. What a light weight.

reddevil on July 30, 2014 at 10:20 PM

Nixon is portrayed as the evil of all evil but obama runs circles around him but the drivebys wont pickup a pen or phone to look into obamas lawlessness

jaywemm on July 31, 2014 at 1:17 AM

Up Chuck.

Sherman1864 on July 31, 2014 at 1:33 AM

“Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can’t stop them from doing.”

From the Joseph Heller novel “Catch-22.” We’re living it…that and Orwells’ “1984″.

bigGwillie on July 31, 2014 at 2:23 AM

Have a vote on a repeal amendment to get rid of the impeachment clause, then. If Obama isn’t impeached, then the impeachment power is a joke. Why did they want to impeach Nixon? I don’t think he killed anyone.

Buddahpundit on July 31, 2014 at 3:20 AM

Nope. Not embarrassed at all.

katy the mean old lady on July 30, 2014 at 8:11 PM

There’s no embarrassment in being correct. Zero has committed many impeachable offenses. Do we have to list them in every conversation?

dogsoldier on July 31, 2014 at 5:19 AM

I am embarrassed that sycophantic totalitarians like Chuck Todd are Americans.

zoyclem on July 31, 2014 at 7:48 AM

Eventually the Democrats will wish they had impeached Obama while they had the chance.

newpine on July 31, 2014 at 8:20 AM

Hey Chuck! Please wipe the shoe polish from Obama’s boots from your mouth.

RdLake on July 31, 2014 at 9:58 AM

The entire MSM has been told to get in front of the impeachable offense that is ABOUT TO OCCUR.

Demonize the word. Demonize those that would associate with the word.

Then … POTUS executes the impeachable offense.

Followed by the now neutered calls for impeachment.

The Left is PLAYING the Right for the fools that they are.

Carnac on July 31, 2014 at 11:37 AM