CNN anchor silences Palestinian spokesman amid attempt to claim Hamas wants peace

posted at 3:21 pm on July 29, 2014 by Noah Rothman

Here is a fun video via CNN in which a former Palestinian foreign minister fails dismally in his attempt to frame Hamas, the governing authority in Gaza, as a party interested in peace with Israel.

In this interview with CNN anchors John Berman and Michaela Pereira, Nabil Shaath is shown to be a lucid and clear speaker who is capable of forcefully advocating for the Palestinian position on issues relating to the ongoing war in the Gaza Strip. All that skill goes right out the window when he is confronted by Berman with the fact that Hamas rejected the most recent ceasefire proposal after the former Palestinian official insisted that the terror group is desperate for peace.

Let’s perform a little forensic analysis here.

There is a bit of a satellite delay and, before he answers Berman’s first question, Shaath can be seen fumbling with his earpiece. Those who are desperate to defend this performance will suggest that the former Palestinian Authority official truly had issues hearing the next question he was asked.

While that is not impossible, it seems unlikely. Shaath encountered no audio issues over the course of this extensive interview, and it seems a bit convenient for his earpiece to die on him just as he was asked the most uncomfortable query of the interview.

Secondly, after Shaath asks for Berman to repeat his question, the former official is no more secure in his response. He fumbles, smacks his lips, and finally responds by distancing himself from Hamas’ position.

Shaath quickly recovered and returned to talking points regarding Israel rejecting a U.S. ceasefire proposal even the center-left Israeli news outlet Haaretz determined was unacceptable as it allowed Hamas to retain possession of its remaining rocket arsenal.

All things considered, this interview amounts to a propaganda coup for Jerusalem.


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Really? That’s the dishonest fallacy you feel compelled to type out when you’ve been exposed as someone who can’t offer a cogent or articulate or valid argument?

That’s no different from someone asking you, since you are a Hamas apologist, you have no problem with them destroying Israel and committing genocide if they lay down their arms? Well, except for the fact that destroying Israel and committing genocide is part of the Hamas charter.

Hamas, Fatah, the PA, Hizbollah, Syria, etc are the only regional players that insist on destruction and genocide. Not Israel. A non-apologist would call on Hamas to lay down their arms, demilitarize, and then dare Israel to act.

Athos on July 29, 2014 at 6:28 PM

Answer how far Israel would be justified in going to stop the bombings. I’m not talking about Hamas. I’m talking about Israel’s response.

jim56 on July 29, 2014 at 6:32 PM

Since when is bombing a legitimate military target “wrong”?

Take your time.

Del Dolemonte on July 29, 2014 at 6:24 PM

Because they didn’t bomb most of the industrial sites, which were in the suburbs. So their justification for the raid is suspect.

jimbo 56 on July 29, 2014 at 6:28 PM

Please cite and link the source(s) for your claims. And make sure they are objective and multi-sourced,

Take your time.

Del Dolemonte on July 29, 2014 at 6:34 PM

And I still think the allies were wrong to bomb Dresden.

jim56 on July 29, 2014 at 6:10 PM

I can assure you that ‘my people’ – to use a phrase uttered by the AG – in London, Coventry, Plymouth, Liverpool, Southampton, Portsmouth, Bristol, etc, adamantly disagreed and disagree.

Resist We Much on July 29, 2014 at 6:30 PM

Well, then, I disagree with “your people” on this issue. And if you do some research, you’ll see that the bombing of Dresden was and continues to be controversial.

jim56 on July 29, 2014 at 6:34 PM

if you do some research, you’ll see that the bombing of Dresden was and continues to be controversial.

jimbo 56 on July 29, 2014 at 6:34 PM

So were many other bombings.

Please try again.

Del Dolemonte on July 29, 2014 at 6:36 PM

Answer how far Israel would be justified in going to stop the bombings. I’m not talking about Hamas. I’m talking about Israel’s response.

jim56 on July 29, 2014 at 6:32 PM

The only true way to fight wars, violent gangs … and terorists is to be as merciless and violent as they are. When the enemy fears you above all else they will surrender or quit.

That’s the entire premise of a strong defense. Fear of payback.

darwin on July 29, 2014 at 6:37 PM

Because they didn’t bomb most of the industrial sites, which were in the suburbs. So their justification for the raid is suspect.

jim56 on July 29, 2014 at 6:28 PM

You didn’t even bother to read that most basic link about Dresden – just typed out some clap trap… Try reading it to see just a brief list of the military targets destroyed in the bombing, in addition to the critical N/S and E/W transportation lines that were not only legitimate military targets, but also destroyed / significantly damaged in the raids.

Furthermore, Dresden was not disproportionate to other German cities subjected to similar ’round the clock’ raids over their legitimate military targets.

Athos on July 29, 2014 at 6:39 PM

Well, then, I disagree with “your people” on this issue. And if you do some research, you’ll see that the bombing of Dresden was and continues to be controversial.

jim56 on July 29, 2014 at 6:34 PM

Oh, I know that it is still controversial, as are the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Of course those that squawk the loudest about them are those that never had to live through enemies raining fire down upon them.

One other thing, do you know what else is still ‘controversial’?

The Blitz…but, to acknowledge that would require you to condemn the bad guys.

Resist We Much on July 29, 2014 at 6:40 PM

I suspect you think it would be fine for Israel to kill everyone in Gaza if it stopped the attacks.

jim56 on July 29, 2014 at 6:17 PM

I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that you suspect many outlandish things, Jim, not that any of those suspicions are based on reality.

zoyclem on July 29, 2014 at 6:40 PM

You didn’t even bother to read that most basic link about Dresden – just typed out some clap trap… Try reading it to see just a brief list of the military targets destroyed in the bombing, in addition to the critical N/S and E/W transportation lines that were not only legitimate military targets, but also destroyed / significantly damaged in the raids.

Furthermore, Dresden was not disproportionate to other German cities subjected to similar ’round the clock’ raids over their legitimate military targets.

Athos on July 29, 2014 at 6:39 PM

Doesn’t matter if it was proportionate or not. The fact is that a majority of the industrial targets were outside the city center and were not bombed, making it appear that the bombing was done in part to demoralize the population by targeting civilians.

http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II

You can also look at the bombing of Dresden on Wikipedia.

jim56 on July 29, 2014 at 6:44 PM

The fact is that a majority of the industrial targets were outside the city center and were not bombed, making it appear that the bombing was done in part to demoralize the population by targeting civilians.

jim56 on July 29, 2014 at 6:44 PM

So what if it was? What do you think Hitler’s V1 and V2′s were used for over England?

darwin on July 29, 2014 at 6:46 PM

The Blitz…but, to acknowledge that would require you to condemn the bad guys.

Resist We Much on July 29, 2014 at 6:40 PM

The Germans were the bad guys, Hitler was nuts and evil and the Holocaust in particular and the killing of other civilians is condemned.

jim56 on July 29, 2014 at 6:47 PM

Answer how far Israel would be justified in going to stop the bombings. I’m not talking about Hamas. I’m talking about Israel’s response.

jim56 on July 29, 2014 at 6:32 PM

Until Hamas, which runs Gaza and can’t be excluded from the equation, agrees to demilitarize / cease building tunnels to infiltrate terrorists into Israel to attack IDF or civilians, stop firing all missiles into Israel – then Israel is entitled to wage war on every legitimate military target within Gaza. The power plant, command and control centers, tunnels, tunnel entrances / exits, military stores or storage locations, launching sites, smuggling sites, the leadership, armed vehicles and armed men, transportation networks, factories / weapons construction or assembly facilities.

They are entitled to do so until Hamas agrees to a cease-fire, armistice, or surrenders.

What has been the case since 1948 remains true – If Israel surrenders or lays down their arms, they are destroyed. If Hamas, Fatah, PA, Hizbollah, Syria, etc surrender or lays down their arms and or recognize the right of Israel to exist, peace will result.

Athos on July 29, 2014 at 6:49 PM

Jimbo sure is expending a lot of bandwidth going to bat for guys who like to mutilate women’s and little girls’ private bits and then use those same women and little girls as human shields.

CurtZHP on July 29, 2014 at 6:49 PM

Jimbo sure is expending a lot of bandwidth going to bat for guys who like to mutilate women’s and little girls’ private bits and then use those same women and little girls as human shields.

CurtZHP on July 29, 2014 at 6:49 PM

The same people who would love to slice his head off with a rusty knife.

darwin on July 29, 2014 at 6:50 PM

Del Dolemonte on July 29, 2014 at 6:34 PM

Did you start your sun-dial?

Athos on July 29, 2014 at 6:50 PM

Doesn’t matter if it was proportionate or not. The fact is that a majority of the industrial targets were outside the city center and were not bombed, making it appear that the bombing was done in part to demoralize the population by targeting civilians.

What do you think The Blitz was?

War is Hell.

And, when your opponent is playing dirty, you aren’t obligated to play by the Marquess of Queensberry rules.

To paraphrase Justice Robert Jackson, who was also the Chief-War Crimes Prosecutor at Nuremberg:

The laws of war and treaties aren’t suicide pacts.

Resist We Much on July 29, 2014 at 6:51 PM

And I still think the allies were wrong to bomb Dresden.
jim56 on July 29, 2014 at 6:10 PM
So what would be the jim56 guide to a quick victory in war?
anuts on July 29, 2014 at 6:14 PM

Chicago style pizza at the place next to you in Dallas.
jim56 on July 29, 2014 at 6:20 PM

Ok…that’s a strange response.

(…it’s not Chicago style anyway…)

anuts on July 29, 2014 at 6:52 PM

So what if it was? What do you think Hitler’s V1 and V2′s were used for over England?

darwin on July 29, 2014 at 6:46 PM

Germany was quite clearly losing the war when Dresden was bombed in February 1945. They lost the Battle of the Bulge and were getting pushed back by Russia on the eastern front.

So it’s a different time and situation than the Blitz.

jim56 on July 29, 2014 at 6:53 PM

Ok…that’s a strange response.

(…it’s not Chicago style anyway…)

anuts on July 29, 2014 at 6:52 PM

I clicked on your name and saw the ad. You (or someone) would make a killing in DFW with Chicago-style pizza.

jim56 on July 29, 2014 at 6:54 PM

Anyway jim56, I was hoping you’d give an answer that would resemble this:

Think again about the consequences of putting a terrorist organization in charge of your government especially when they decide to follow through on their stated purpose and launch unprovoked and indiscriminate rockets into your neighbor’s land.

anuts on July 29, 2014 at 6:55 PM

Anyway jim56, I was hoping you’d give an answer that would resemble this:

Think again about the consequences of putting a terrorist organization in charge of your government especially when they decide to follow through on their stated purpose and launch unprovoked and indiscriminate rockets into your neighbor’s land.

anuts on July 29, 2014 at 6:55 PM

Again, less than a majority of the residents voted for Hamas.

I’ve gotta do real work now.

jim56 on July 29, 2014 at 6:58 PM

The fact is that a majority of the industrial targets were outside the city center and were not bombed, making it appear that the bombing was done in part to demoralize the population by targeting civilians.

Statement of opinion, not fact.

In fact, your link doesn’t substantiate your opinion that the majority of industrial targets were outside of the area bombed, and the link specifically references that the casualties / focus on Dresden were no different from other German cities – ie the effort there was proportional and not designed to maximize civilian losses while ignoring legitimate military targets.

Proportionality has a lot to do with it since so many claims over the lives lost are not based on fact, but East German / Soviet agitprop.

You really aren’t very good at this, are you?

Athos on July 29, 2014 at 6:58 PM

jim56 on July 29, 2014 at 6:54 PM

I figured as much. I’m in the bar business anyway. I know next to nothing about the food business. Anyway, back on topic; what do you say about my response?

anuts on July 29, 2014 at 6:59 PM

Again, less than a majority of the residents voted for Hamas.

I’ve gotta do real work now.

jim56 on July 29, 2014 at 6:58 PM

Now he’s repeating his dishonest claims as he tries to move the goalposts….

It’s clear, you aren’t good at making a cogent or valid argument.

Athos on July 29, 2014 at 7:00 PM

Germany was quite clearly losing the war when Dresden was bombed in February 1945. They lost the Battle of the Bulge and were getting pushed back by Russia on the eastern front.

So it’s a different time and situation than the Blitz.

jim56 on July 29, 2014 at 6:53 PM

I don’t remember Germany surrendering after Dresden.

darwin on July 29, 2014 at 7:01 PM

jim56 on July 29, 2014 at 6:58 PM

But enough was done so to make a plurality and therefore a legitimate representation. If that’s the way your system works then you may want to take a more thoughtful approach of who you’d like to represent you…unless of course, this was exactly the case.

If you elect maniacs to govern you, don’t be surprised when the maniacs behave accordingly.

anuts on July 29, 2014 at 7:03 PM

Unreal: Third Hamas Rocket Stockpile Found Inside U.N. School In Gaza…

I’m sensing a pattern here.

Resist We Much on July 29, 2014 at 5:24 PM

Welllll, Hillary has already explained that Gaza is small, so there is no other place to store the rockets. Sheesh. That surely makes Hamas blameless, since Hillary says so.
Also, I’m certain that the UN will be very helpful in assisting Hamas in relocating the rockets out of the Gaza schools……most likely within the territorial boundaries of Israel, and most hopefully, an Israeli school, preferably populated with small children.
There is no moral equivelancy between Israel and Hamas. Hamas is perfectly willing to kill anyone and everyone, Israeli or Palestinian, to further their bloodthirsty ends.

bobthm3 on July 29, 2014 at 7:06 PM

it is a pro gaza channel so the chubby one had to pipe in at the end.

renalin on July 29, 2014 at 7:06 PM

Cease the Cease-Fires

Written By : Thomas Sowell
July 29, 2014

Check it out.

CW on July 29, 2014 at 7:36 PM

Germany was quite clearly losing the war when Dresden was bombed in February 1945. They lost the Battle of the Bulge and were getting pushed back by Russia on the eastern front.

So it’s a different time and situation than the Blitz.

jim56 on July 29, 2014 at 6:53 PM

I don’t remember Germany surrendering after Dresden.

darwin on July 29, 2014 at 7:01 PM

Why? Do you remember them surrendering before Dresden?

jim56 on July 29, 2014 at 7:50 PM

In fact, your link doesn’t substantiate your opinion that the majority of industrial targets were outside of the area bombed, ……
You really aren’t very good at this, are you?

Athos on July 29, 2014 at 6:58 PM

“In the raid, major industrial areas in the suburbs, which stretched for miles, were not targeted.[6] According to Donald Miller “the economic disruption would have been far greater had Bomber Command targeted the suburban areas where most of Dresden’s manufacturing might was concentrated”.[36]“

jim56 on July 29, 2014 at 7:53 PM

Answer how far Israel would be justified in going to stop the bombings. I’m not talking about Hamas. I’m talking about Israel’s response.

jim56 on July 29, 2014 at 6:32 PM

The answer is a simple one, even for a flaming anti-Semite like you.

If “to stop the bombings” is the goal, anything short of “stop[ping] the bombings” is a failed attempt. Thus, as far as it takes “to stop the bombings” is as far as Israel should take it, and no shorter.

John Hitchcock on July 29, 2014 at 8:13 PM

Answer how far Israel would be justified in going to stop the bombings. I’m not talking about Hamas. I’m talking about Israel’s response.

jim56 on July 29, 2014 at 6:32 PM

As far as they need to go, even if it creates a mushroom cloud. That will be instruction on Israeli response for the rest of the middle east, who coincidentally with a good chunk of Europe and most liberals in America, want to see all jews dead.

If someone is breaking into my house, or worse, lobbing grenades at my house, I’m not going to measure my response. I’m going to war, and the goal of war is to see the enemy die or surrender.

How the hell is it that people have forgotten what war is about? It’s not about attaining peace through cease fires that are at best disingenuous, it’s about evaporating your enemy or making them succumb completely.

Diluculo on July 29, 2014 at 8:16 PM

Less than a majority voted for Clinton — twice. He was still “the leader of the free world”.

And Hezbollah was available to Gaza for a vote. That Islamic Terrorist group. Available, just like the Islamic Terrorist group Hamas. Just because those in Gaza didn’t know which genocidal group to get the majority of votes doesn’t mean they weren’t all for the genocide of the Jews, because they were. And still are.

John Hitchcock on July 29, 2014 at 8:18 PM

I just got here.

I saw this:

So explain to me why destroying the only power plant in Gaza is legitimate.
A majority of the people in Gaza did not vote for Hamas, yet the destruction of the power plant means almost no one in Gaza will have electricity, phones, tv, internet, running water, air conditioning, etc.
I see the destruction of the power plant as improper.

Okay. . .

war is “improper” but when you are facing people who love death more than life, and you love life more than death, what do you do?

Bomb the hell out of them, idiot!

Muslims don’t need power plants, they don’t need anything except the means of destruction of anyone who doesn’t see life the way they see it: my way or the highway(which means off with your head).

Whoever you are, Trotsky, read some history before you start pontificating. These people have been a plague on the earth ever since they first appeard out of the desert. If they can’t live in a civilized society, they don’t deserve any of the fruits of civilization.

Mariadee on July 29, 2014 at 8:57 PM

I do believe Hamas when they say they want a cease fire. They want Israel to cease firing while Hamas continues. And stop using that pesky “iron dome”.

eclark1849 on July 29, 2014 at 10:15 PM

The answer is a simple one, even for a flaming anti-Semite like you.

…..
John Hitchcock on July 29, 2014 at 8:13 PM

Please provide definitive proof of your assertion. Otherwise, I’ll deservedly consider you a Marine Corp reject.

jim56 on July 29, 2014 at 11:24 PM

Please provide definitive proof of your assertion. Otherwise, I’ll deservedly consider you a Marine Corp[s] reject.

jim56 on July 29, 2014 at 11:24 PM

Corrected for future reference.

And since you truncated my comment to delete the proof of my assertion, you already have the proof of my assertion and have seen the proof of my assertion; therefore, I don’t need to re-post it.

John Hitchcock on July 29, 2014 at 11:37 PM

jim56 on July 29, 2014 at 7:53 PM

Just more dishonesty and selective editing on your part….

From your link from the New World Encyclopedia….

The United States Strategic Bombing Survey listed at least 110 factories and industries in Dresden,[8] albeit mainly in the outskirts, which were far less affected by the February 1945 raid. The city contained the Zeiss-Ikon optical factory and the Siemens glass factory, both of which, according to the Allies, were entirely devoted to manufacturing military gunsights. The immediate suburbs contained factories building radar and electronics components, and fuses for anti-aircraft shells. Other factories produced gas masks, engines for Junkers aircraft and cockpit parts for Messerschmitt fighters.[36]

…. But if one reads on….

Because of the concentration of undamaged industry, unusual in Germany at the time of the raids, the Allied planners had reason to believe that Dresden was a crucial to the effort to supply materiel for the defense of Germany itself.

The fifth point is that the firebombing achieved the intended effect of disabling a substantial fraction of industry in what was one of Germany’s last centers of industrial production. It was estimated that over 25 percent of industrial capacity was disabled or destroyed, eliminating potential use of Dresden by the Germany military to launch counterstrikes to check the Soviet advance.

Destroying or disabling 25% of the cities industrial capacity combined with the transportation disruption was substantial, particularly in an era without precision guided munitions. Add to the proportional effects of the casualties and damage compared to the munitions dropped, and Dresden wasn’t the holocaust you or the Soviet / East German agitprop presented or the biased sources you used, and prove, not your case, but the case of Dresden being a legitimate military target that received no special attention or focus targeted at the civilian population.

You still need to raise your game / ability to make cogent and valid arguments – particularly around reading all of the contents of what you source, not just cherry-picking something intended to justify your pre-conceived condition.

Athos on July 30, 2014 at 12:36 AM

http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II

jimbo56 on July 29, 2014 at 6:44 PM

Isn’t that a Moonie reference website?

(Rim Shot and Drum Roll)

M-

Del Dolemonte on July 30, 2014 at 12:39 AM

PSA: Google jimbo’s “New World Encyclopedia”

It’s a Unification Church “reference” website. But you have to do some digging to sniff that out.

Del Dolemonte on July 30, 2014 at 12:45 AM

Del Dolemonte on July 30, 2014 at 12:45 AM

Good to know for future reference.

Athos on July 30, 2014 at 1:06 AM

There will be NO … ‘dividing and separating’ civilians from the HAMAS combatants, as long as the HAMAS combatants insist on hiding behind the Gaza civilians.
.
There is NO diplomatic, tactful, non-violent solution to this conflict.

Violent confrontation and obliteration is the choice made by HAMAS …
not Israel.

HAMAS made the first move, in this current conflict.
.
There … NEVER … EVER … WAS … a nation of “Palestine”.

The Gaza residents referred to as “Palestinians” are mostly displaced Syrians.

listens2glenn on July 30, 2014 at 11:00 AM

Trotsky on July 29, 2014 at 3:35 PM

What, exactly, does HAMAS have to defend itself from? The neighbor who leaves them COMPLETELY alone as long as they don’t attack that neighbor?

Complete FAIL, left-wing hack

PJ Emeritus on July 30, 2014 at 11:51 AM

jim56 on July 29, 2014 at 3:51 PM

Let me see if I can use words small enough you can understand.

Taking out the power is a legitimate attempt to get the so-called “innocent” citizenry to get fed up with the HAMAS BS and force it to stop by exerting internal pressure upon the HAMAS leadership, so that the power can be restored.

Get it? Moron.

PJ Emeritus on July 30, 2014 at 11:55 AM

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