Boehner: This impeachment talk is nothing but a “scam” being run by Democrats to rally their base

posted at 2:41 pm on July 29, 2014 by Allahpundit

When the man’s right, he’s right. Byron York had a nifty piece this weekend about the Dems’ strategy here: The more they dangle “impeachment” red meat in front of their base, the more dumb grassroots liberals start slobbering money to beat back the phantom Republican threat. They’ve raised more than $2 million in four days this way, the single biggest haul of the 2014 cycle so far. And there’s no signs they’re slowing down. Steny Hoyer belched out a warning this morning that Boehner’s lawsuit, which is obviously an alternative to impeachment, might just be a prelude to it. Then Louise Slaughter chimed in:

“Republicans desperately want to do impeachment,” Slaughter said at a press briefing in the Capitol. “They’re going to take this step first [the lawsuit], but I’m not in any way assuaged from the notion that impeachment is not the final goal here.”…

“We have no plan to impeach the president,” Boehner told reporters.

Told of Boehner’s comments, Slaughter remained unconvinced.

“You’ve heard all their base and everybody yelling about it,” she said. “For him to say that I think is disingenuous.”

Annnnd, just for good measure, here’s two cents from King Troll as well:

“Isn’t it good we’re talking about this [VA bill] rather than impeachment of the president or suing the president?” [Harry] Reid said of the veterans’ deal. “The American people are totally opposed to this, we shouldn’t be off on those tracks of impeachment, suing the president. We should be legislating.”

Glenn Beck compared the lefty shrieking over impeachment yesterday to the shrieking over Birtherism: There are people on the right who subscribe to both, but the closer you get to the two parties’ respective leaderships, the more you find Democrats are much more eager to talk about each topic than Republicans are. That’s a function of simple political cost/benefit calculations, and right now, Democratic fundraisers are benefiting handsomely.

But … what if there’s more to it than money? Charles Cooke made a sharp point earlier about impeachmentpalooza:

The Levin piece he links says Obama’s looming executive amnesty for illegals “could well be the most extreme act of executive overreach ever attempted by an American president in peacetime.” That being so, Cooke wonders, maybe all the impeachment chatter lately is simply a sly Democratic attempt to inoculate Obama from what’s coming when he finally pulls the trigger on amnesty. If they convince people that these darned Republicans are crazy to want to oust O, and then O does something legitimately impeachment-worthy, what’s the Republican play then? If they act, they’re simply “proving” that Democrats were right about their craziness all along. This is where we are now as a country, maybe — somehow, given a choice between a quixotic impeachment attempt and an unprecedented power grab by the executive in the name of “doing good,” the latter is seen as the lesser of two evils.

Cooke’s theory depends, though, on the idea that the GOP really might go ahead and try to impeach O if he follows through on amnesty if not for all the impeachment talk lately. Is that true? I’m skeptical that O needs to be “inoculated” because I don’t believe for a second that Boehner would risk alienating Latinos by impeaching him for handing out legalization to illegals like candy. On the contrary, my hunch is that Boehner will react by huddling with his team and deciding that they must, must pass comprehensive immigration reform next year to make sure that they don’t end up being outpandered by the White House among Latino voters before 2016. Obama’s already immune from political illness from this, at least within that demographic. Independents are, perhaps, another question.


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Schadenfreude on July 29, 2014 at 4:31 PM

Are you racist crackas seriously thinking about impeaching a proud black man????

Etc.

vlad martel on July 29, 2014 at 4:37 PM

You too Allah. Do you actually have a plan or is it just No defund-No Impeach -Wait till 2016 -let Obama sign any EO he wants.

BoxHead1 on July 29, 2014 at 4:30 PM

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The GOPe/CoC hasn’t told the GOPe-media what the acceptable to the CoC plan is … so neither Allah or the GOPe trolls will be able to TELL you the plan until AFTER they are TOLD the plan.

For now, their only comment on the situation is,

“BAAA …BAAAA …BAAAA”

PolAgnostic on July 29, 2014 at 4:39 PM

Are you racist crackas seriously thinking about impeaching a proud half-black man????

Etc.

vlad martel on July 29, 2014 at 4:37 PM

FIFY

Meople on July 29, 2014 at 4:39 PM

You too Allah. Do you actually have a plan or is it just No defund-No Impeach -Wait till 2016 -let Obama sign any EO he wants.

BoxHead1 on July 29, 2014 at 4:30 PM

Why yes – that seems to exactly be the ‘plan’ – let them run amok, and piss all over anything that is suggested otherwise.

Midas on July 29, 2014 at 4:43 PM

Impeaching when the Senate will never convict is a waste.
Ted the Average on July 29, 2014 at 4:04 PM
Yeah, right…tell that to Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton…

Newtie and the Beauty on July 29, 2014 at 4:10 PM

In Johnson’s case, IIRC, the Senate thought they had enough votes, and missed by one they counted on, from Edmund Ross. In Clinton’s case, they were never close, since Democrats were all over TV arguing that perjury and obstruction of justice were suddenly not high crimes (and they always stick together when it comes to favoring the lawless over the victims anyway), nobody including Tipper wanted to see a President Gore, and Republicans had too many squishes like Scotty Arlen Specter.

Impeachment won’t happen, and it’s questionable if the threat of it would slow down the ever-increasing lawlessness of this administration. Even if there were 100 Republicans in the Senate, the threat would probably still be meaningless. At trial, Roberts would run the show, Boehner and crew would present the evidence, and Juan McCain and Lindsey Grahamnesty would be checking the law books to see if they could be co-jury-foremen. I doubt Zippy is really worried about that scenario.

MrKleenexMuscles on July 29, 2014 at 4:45 PM

Are you racist crackas seriously thinking about impeaching a proud half-black OREO man????

Etc.

vlad martel on July 29, 2014 at 4:37 PM

FIFY

Meople on July 29, 2014 at 4:39 PM

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The media is NOT reporting that Obama’s amnesty talk is going over as well with his African-American base as a KKK recruitment in effort in Stockton would.

Fixed It For Reality

PolAgnostic on July 29, 2014 at 4:46 PM

I realize that, but that is all the more reason to say that talk of impeachment is NOT a waste of time.
bimmcorp on July 29, 2014 at 4:28 PM

On that we agree, Bimm. My apologies for missing your earlier point, too.

Newtie and the Beauty on July 29, 2014 at 4:50 PM

As a liberal – please try to impeach obama. Please. Pretty please.

Lets see how that works out for you.

triple on July 29, 2014 at 4:52 PM

Posted a before impeachments talks were cool:

Chronicling The Liberal Media’s Inevitable Push To Impeach Obama

Impeachment talks might rile up the base, but a successful impeachment would do the opposite. An actual impeachment depresses the base unless you are talking about the base of the opposition. Which is exactly why the establishment GOP will never do it.

They will claim that they believe it is a liberal trap to get out the progressive vote and they will give the most impeachable president in history a pass. Because the last thing the RINOS want is a jazzed up grassroots conservative base going into the GOP primaries.

conservativeBC on July 29, 2014 at 4:53 PM

Once again, a few malcontent conservatives have managed to help the Democrats change the subject. I wish some people’s wisdom could match their megaphone.

cimbri on July 29, 2014 at 4:57 PM

Meople on July 29, 2014 at 4:30 PM

Your question presupposes he tried to accomplish “substantive business” after getting impeached. He didn’t. After the 1998 elections, Clinton was a lame duck. Can you name something he wanted but didn’t get because of the stain of impeachment? Thought so.

BoxHead1 on July 29, 2014 at 4:30 PM

How is impeaching without the possibility of conviction a plan? And don’t tell me it’s to catalog TOTUS’s crimes; his crimes are already well-documented and well-known to anyone who cares enough to be informed.

Ted the Average on July 29, 2014 at 4:59 PM

Impeachment won’t happen, and it’s questionable if the threat of it would slow down the ever-increasing lawlessness of this administration

Your instincts are correct, but I’d venture it would create even more lawlessness and unitary action. The administration would be energized by it; they would revel in it.

Ted the Average on July 29, 2014 at 5:05 PM

BoxHead1 on July 29, 2014 at 4:30 PM
How is impeaching without the possibility of conviction a plan? And don’t tell me it’s to catalog TOTUS’s crimes; his crimes are already well-documented and well-known to anyone who cares enough to be informed.

Ted the Average on July 29, 2014 at 4:59 PM

Impeachment proceedings can’t be ignored by the media, They are forced to cover every dirty little bit of them. All hearings are televised. Were you around/aware in the 90s*?

Impeachment proceedings will be THE national debate about open borders. We should have had this debate before any EO but that is not going to happen(because the GOPe/CoC is pro-amnesty). THe only way it now happens is through impeachment – and you can add some IRS and FF to the mix.

I strongly believe that impeachment proceedings will lead to a dramatic moderation of the dems open borders position. I don’t believe that the people, when hearing the details, will opt for national suicide.

You all talk about messaging and PR as if it is all about NOT debating and NOT having a strong message. For you, PR = avoiding any controversy. That’s dead wrong. The dems don’t play by those rules. Personally, I’m not afraid of the truth being debating before the American public. As LIV as they are , they are not (again) suicidal.

* And no this impeachment will not be about a sex scandal.

BoxHead1 on July 29, 2014 at 5:14 PM

As a liberal – please try to impeach obama. Please. Pretty please.

Lets see how that works out for you.

balk on July 29, 2014 at 4:52 PM

Tell us again how Clinton was Above the Law for Felony Perjury…and before you answer, remember that his own Department of Justice had already successfully prosecuted a female VA doctor for Lying Under Oath About Sex.

(Starts another sundial)

Del Dolemonte on July 29, 2014 at 5:15 PM

On that we agree, Bimm. My apologies for missing your earlier point, too.

Newtie and the Beauty on July 29, 2014 at 4:50 PM

No need to apologize, Newtie…but please keep one on ice for me on the QOTD…it’s 96 degees in what little shade I got here!!

bimmcorp on July 29, 2014 at 5:17 PM

As a liberal – please try to impeach obama. Please. Pretty please.

Lets see how that works out for you.

triple on July 29, 2014 at 4:52 PM

Ah yes, because you all have THIS waiting in the wings to punk any (R) challenger in 2016?

Seriously, you libs have no clue what you’re in for. I SO hope you nominate that. I want her brilliance on display for ALL to behold.

Meople on July 29, 2014 at 5:18 PM

BoxHead1 on July 29, 2014 at 4:30 PM
How is impeaching without the possibility of conviction a plan? And don’t tell me it’s to catalog TOTUS’s crimes; his crimes are already well-documented and well-known to anyone who cares enough to be informed.

Ted the Average on July 29, 2014 at 4:59 PM

Or they could defund but since the GOPe will not make the case for defunding (the opposite) and since defunding does not entail a public trial there is less PR benefit from defunding. If the GOP would stand together on defunding then it could be a more immediate solution but that ship sank last winter.

BoxHead1 on July 29, 2014 at 5:21 PM

Ah yes, because you all have THIS waiting in the wings to punk any (R) challenger in 2016?

Seriously, you libs have no clue what you’re in for. I SO hope you nominate that. I want her brilliance on display for ALL to behold.

Meople on July 29, 2014 at 5:18 PM

For those that watch click the link, you can start at around 1:40 or so for the enlightenment.

Meople on July 29, 2014 at 5:23 PM

BoxHead1 on July 29, 2014 at 4:30 PM
How is impeaching without the possibility of conviction a plan? And don’t tell me it’s to catalog TOTUS’s crimes; his crimes are already well-documented and well-known to anyone who cares enough to be informed.

Ted the Average on July 29, 2014 at 4:59 PM

Impeachment is be the only way to get a real demographic breakdown of the “children” from central America. Impeachment is the only way to get real numbers. Impeachment is the only way to find out why Mexico has been complicit in sending people north to our border. Impeachment is the only way to get the administration to clearly outline their ,thus far opaque, plans about future border enforcement. Through impeachment Obama will have to defend the idea of open borders. Right now, he doesn’t have to defend squat.

BoxHead1 on July 29, 2014 at 5:26 PM

No need to apologize, Newtie…but please keep one on ice for me on the QOTD…it’s 96 degees in what little shade I got here!!
bimmcorp on July 29, 2014 at 5:17 PM

[slides Bimm a Whatchudrinkin' in a Brand-Spankin'-New Double Whatchudrinkin' glass AND a set of bar keys...enters under "Emergency Hydration"...y'all know what to do with the keys... ;-) ]

Newtie and the Beauty on July 29, 2014 at 5:27 PM

is be is (that be my mistake)

BoxHead1 on July 29, 2014 at 5:28 PM

Impeachment is be the only way to get a real demographic breakdown of the “children” from central America. Impeachment is the only way to get real numbers. Impeachment is the only way to find out why Mexico has been complicit in sending people north to our border. Impeachment is the only way to get the administration to clearly outline their ,thus far opaque, plans about future border enforcement. Through impeachment Obama will have to defend the idea of open borders. Right now, he doesn’t have to defend squat.
BoxHead1 on July 29, 2014 at 5:26 PM

Impeachment can be the only way to find out so much more, especially the abuse of power that is running relatively unchecked throughout this administration from the top down.

Let the Child-in-Chief stew in his own juices for a spell…

Newtie and the Beauty on July 29, 2014 at 5:30 PM

As a liberal – please try to impeach obama. Please. Pretty please.
 
Lets see how that works out for you.
 
triple on July 29, 2014 at 4:52 PM

 
As a liberal, please ask your representatives to obey the law.
 
Please. Pretty please.

rogerb on July 29, 2014 at 5:55 PM

Newtie and the Beauty on July 29, 2014 at 5:27 PM

Bless you, my child….

bimmcorp on July 29, 2014 at 5:57 PM

The GOP has to attack on the front of 5 million illegal immigrants destroying the job opportunities of American blue collar workers and unions. They could easily turn this into a route of the democrats base but won’t because they’re being paid off by the same groups that want amnesty and cheap labor as the democrats are.

Skywise on July 29, 2014 at 6:00 PM

Impeachment can be the only way to find out so much more, especially the abuse of power that is running relatively unchecked throughout this administration from the top down.

Let the Child-in-Chief stew in his own juices for a spell…

Newtie and the Beauty on July 29, 2014 at 5:30 PM

Right and holder doesn’t choose the prosecutor and it has far more weight than these congressional hearings. Obama can’t plead the 5th and perjury is taken seriously (see Clapper). And most of all – the entire world watches it. Every part of it. The media has no say in whether it gets covered. And yeah, lot’s of things about this admin can be exposed in an impeachment hearing.

BoxHead1 on July 29, 2014 at 6:01 PM

(see Clapper) – on how toothless the law against perjury has become in congressional hearings.

BoxHead1 on July 29, 2014 at 6:02 PM

Bless you, my child….
bimmcorp on July 29, 2014 at 5:57 PM

Aw, shucks… ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on July 29, 2014 at 6:08 PM

(see Clapper) – on how toothless the law against perjury has become in congressional hearings.
BoxHead1 on July 29, 2014 at 6:02 PM

Yup…WitHolder’s so set on going after what’s impotent important in this country…like a satirical parade float in Nebraska…

Newtie and the Beauty on July 29, 2014 at 6:12 PM

El GOP es completamente inútil. No sólo la dirección del partido, pero cada Critter congreso pésimo apestoso que no funciona para deshacerse de Boehner y Mitch McConnell.

Esto es lo que sucede cuando el Progresivo, grandes bushistas amorosa gobierno ejecute la fiesta.

Boehner debe ser golpeado en las redes sociales, y con llamadas a su oficina.

Tenemos un presidente (y, francamente, el Congreso) que es sin ley, y ni siquiera dispuestos a defender las fronteras malditos de nuestra nación.

Que Dios nos ayude a sobrevivir.

The gop is completely worthless. Not just the leadership of the party but every stinking lousy congress Critter that doesn’t work to get rid of Boehner and Mitch McConnell.

This is what happens when the Progressive, big government loving Bushies run the party.

Boehner should be POUNDED ON SOCIAL MEDIA, and with calls to his office.

We have a President (and frankly Congress) that is LAWLESS, and not even willing to defend the freaking borders of OUR nation.

God help us survive.

PappyD61 on July 29, 2014 at 8:19 PM

Fu**ing liar reporter

Schadenfreude on July 29, 2014 at 8:54 PM

You people are funny. Never talk about impeachment here on HA nope not us.

AmlissVess on July 29, 2014 at 9:07 PM

I think he looked better orange.

PBH on July 29, 2014 at 9:27 PM

heh. you guys talk about impeachment non stop. Major conservative voices and many elected republicans are loudly talking about impeachment. polls show the majority of republicans favor impeachment.

…and you guys are trying to pin this on the democrats now?

hilarious.

your self-delusion knows no bounds.

everdiso on July 29, 2014 at 9:49 PM

Donks scamming impeachment…

…When all else fails, try the self fulfilling prophecy

Willys on July 29, 2014 at 11:17 PM

If I could impeach anyone it would be Boehner.

JellyToast on July 30, 2014 at 7:01 AM

Obama and the Dems are so awful, that we should not vote this November and should certainly never vote for a Republican again! /

We’re doomed.

justltl on July 30, 2014 at 7:33 AM

The wolves are clawing their way through the front door, and we decide that the best plan is to eat our own.
Good thinking.

justltl on July 30, 2014 at 7:37 AM

BoxHead1 on July 29, 2014 at 5:14 PM
BoxHead1 on July 29, 2014 at 5:21 PM
BoxHead1 on July 29, 2014 at 5:26 PM

The media surely won’t ignore it. We’ll have 24/7 coverage and “analyses” about… how racist the GOP is!

Impeachment won’t do anything to slow the deluge of invaders; you assert that it will because impeachment will rouse the public. Seeing as how most Americans can’t even name their Congressman, I doubt they will understand the seriousness of impeachment and get angry over it. This is especially so when the media will make LIVs believe the impeachment proceedings are racially-motivated. Most Americans believe Clinton’s impeachment was nothing but politics, and his perjury and obstruction of justice have been overlooked or forgotten. The same will happen here.

Impeachment won’t give us any information because the administration will ignore and stonewall any investigation by the House Judiciary Committee just as it ignores and stonewalls Issa’s committee. The Senate will almost certainly drag its feet on having a trial, and if Harry remains Majority Leader after 2014 I wouldn’t be surprised if he delays and delays until 2017.

It’s a waste of time.

Ted the Average on July 30, 2014 at 8:04 AM

Why should Boehner show his cards, if he has them, to a hostile media? The journalists never ask the important questions, they only ask the democrat politicians questions.

Regarding Boehner’s lawsuit:

I am very excited about this prospect: If Boehner takes Obamacare and the various taxes to court and Obama wins, this means that no Republican President in the future will have to put a tax in place that he doesn’t believe in. The Executive Right not to Tax. He can forgo any tax until the next president comes along.

It doesn’t seem relevant now, but in our history, democrats and people that WANT stuff, get their congresspeople elected. The House was democrat most of the 20th century.

What if Reagan or Bush or Bush did not have to put democrat House bills with taxes into effect? So many goofy ideas generated by the House and slipped into otherwise necessary bills, that republican presidents were forced to sign like they knew they had to “eat their Peas” (quote, President Obama.) I like it. Republican Presidents did not know they could ask for the bill exactly as they wanted it, and could wait forever and blame congress. The world would be a different place if our republican presidents had law on their side, that said they did not have to enforce any crap sandwich sent by democrats.

We are in a different age right now with a republican congress, but come citizenship for the refugees in 4 years and the next census, the libs are going to get the populations back up in their areas that lost population…”Rebuilding our State,” Duval Patrick, of Massachusetts calls it, and they are going to send democrats back to Washington to get their “benefits and services.” And all the refugees are entitled to 7 years of welfare and they are the only ones who can be made citizens whilst a burden on society, your “fee paying immigrant” spouse has to prove they support themselves or that you do, and that they are healthy, before they can WAIT to become citizens.

Adding insult to injury, in yesterday’s testimony, the new head said that they take the money paid in fees from the people doing it the right way, hold up their applications, and use the money to process the illegals, who had enough money to pay a Coyote, but don’t have any left to pay for their own food, transportation, immigration fees, lawyers, medical needs…they gave thousands to Coyotes! I wonder how long they could manage in their home country on those thousands?

Refugee status has GOODIES, and they will be voting in 4 years for their Stuff. Yes, a refugee, unlike a wandering illegal, has STATUS called “a Benefit” which entitles them to become LEGAL Naturalized Citizens at the end of 4 years.

Fleuries on July 30, 2014 at 11:08 AM

Ah yes, because you all have THIS waiting in the wings to punk any (R) challenger in 2016?

Seriously, you libs have no clue what you’re in for. I SO hope you nominate that. I want her brilliance on display for ALL to behold.

Meople on July 29, 2014 at 5:18 PM

Sure. Hillary isn’t perfect. I’d prefer liz, myself.

That said, who were you planning on nominating yourself? Do the republicans have any non-ridiculous candidates lined up that no one knows about?

triple on July 30, 2014 at 11:50 AM

The sad, ironic thing is…

- Democrats are declaring the GOP want to Impeach Obama just to increase fund raising donations

- The GOP is fearfully running away from the idea for purely personal / political benefit while pushing this ‘law suit’.

- And Obama DESERVES to be Impeached and SHOULD be….

easyt65 on July 30, 2014 at 1:00 PM

I guess it was only a matter of time… BREAKING: In Historic Move, Obama Signs Executive Order to Impeach Himself http://wp.me/p2K2y0-brx

PunditFaP on July 30, 2014 at 3:26 PM

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