Quotes of the day

posted at 10:41 pm on July 28, 2014 by Allahpundit

Yad Vashem is deeply alarmed by the recently escalating antisemitism and violence against Jews around the world. This virulent hatred is finding various expressions, ranging from attacks on synagogues in France and physical attacks against Jews, to pejorative name calling and refrains such as “Jews to the Gas” in Germany, to the use of swastikas at anti-Israel demonstrations, and antisemitic caricatures in newspapers and social media. Physical and verbal violence against Jews in purported response to the events in Gaza, is antisemitism…

Yad Vashem Chairman Avner Shalev said, “We call on the governments of the democracies around the world, particularly in Europe, to take immediate steps, using the legal and moral tools at their disposal, to protect Jewish citizens in their countries, and combat the expressions of antisemitism which we are witnessing in recent weeks.”

***

In Britain, police have recorded more than 100 anti-Jewish hate crimes since the Gaza conflict began, including an attack on a rabbi by four Muslim youths in Gateshead, a Hassidic enclave in north-east England, and bricks thrown through the windows of a Belfast synagogue on two successive nights.

In Norway, police have recommended the temporary closure of two Jewish museums, for fear of attack, while in Copenhagen on the weekend police dispersed a pro-Israel rally out of concern for the safety of the participants.

German TV showed protesters from the country’s Arab minority threatening violence against Jews at a demonstration in Berlin on Thursday. Similar incidents took place in Frankfurt and Essen recently, according to police.

Dieter Graumann, head of the Central Council of Jews in Germany, was quoted by the Wall Street Journal as saying that he had never thought it possible that “anti-Semitic slogans of the worst and most primitive kind could be chanted on German streets,” in his lifetime.

***

At around 2PM, hundreds of demonstrators started to gather on the avenue, which had been lined with riot police trucks. At first, people calmly chanted slogans such as “Palestine will live, Palestine will overcome,” “Zionists, fascists, you’re terrorists!” and “Israel murderer, [President] Hollande accomplice,” but the mood began to heat up once some Israeli flags were burned on the roof of a nearby building. Organizers had asked the demonstrators not to bring anything other that Palestinian and French flags, but many still exhibited Algerian, Turkish or pro-Muslim Brotherhood symbols. As the march was about to set off, the use of the slogan “Allahu akbar” became more and more frequent and a young man started waving the ISIS flag. At the same time, to the dismay of some non-asshole demonstrators, a team of journalists from the French channel, Télé channel was forced to leave as several individuals were threatening them with violence…

As the day drew to a close, the police ran out of ammunition. They tried to regain control by calling the units based in the suburbs of Paris, for backup. According to a young protester who was taking photographs of the clashes, the situation worsened because the policemen, “are on the side of the Jews who own all the stores in the area.”

At about 7PM, passing the Barbès metro station I saw two friends taking pictures of each other while miming the “quenelle” gesture — which is seen by many as anti-Semitic — in front of a couple of exhausted policemen. One of the officers turned to his colleague and said that it’d been a long time since he had last seen such violent riots in Paris…

In an interview with the pro-Israeli website lemondejuif.info, Roger Cukierman, president of the official French affiliate of the World Jewish Congress, said that “this kind of new anti-Semitism could lead to the departure of all Jews.”

***

As Operation Protective Edge continues in Gaza, the Jews of the European diaspora are looking about and seeing an increasingly hostile home. A pair of particularly violent outbreaks of anti-Semitism in France and the Netherlands seems to foreshadow a future conflagration fueled by moral relativism and sparked by Europe’s growing Islamic slums. Muslims spouting Sharia and jihad have no room for Israel and Jews in their future world, and post-Christian Europe offers little resistance to those who promise hate and violence.

Paris’s Jews suffered attacks on three synagogues and a series of assaults and attempted fire bombings in recent weeks. Phrases like “Death to the Jews” are commonplace now in European protests, used almost to the point of trope, retaining raw force only through the sheer strength of the speakers’ hate. Berlin’s air, too, is again polluted by anti-Semitic chants and clamor. More and more, what claim to be “pro-Palestine” or “anti-Zionist aggression” demonstrations are nothing more than platforms to cry for the deaths of Jews everywhere…

German National Socialism is a very particular political system, perhaps unique to the inter-bellum period. Accusations of Nazism are incongruous when applied to Jews, or even Muslims for that matter. But ignoring the definitional incoherence of the attack, it boggles the mind to see racism accepted as political dialogue. Through passivity before radical Islam, Europe attacks Jews who are her citizens, salving her burning conscience by equivocating them with the state of Israel. It is one thing to accuse another nation of using disproportionate force in self-defense. It’s another thing entirely to allow anti-Semitism to flourish.

***

“Death to the Jews” chanted the crowd waving the black flags of the Islamic State, or ISIS as it used to be known. They were looking for new supporters for their cause, the creation of a worldwide caliphate answering to the man who now calls himself Ibrahim: a zealot too radical even for Al Qaeda who has stormed through Syria and Iraq carrying out mass executions, crucifying rivals, beheading enemies. But these marchers were not in Syria or Iraq; they were in The Hague in The Netherlands. And their message was one tailored to the disaffected young descendants of Muslim immigrants in Europe…

Many of the demonstrators covered their faces with Palestinian scarves or balaclavas. “Anyone who doesn’t jump is a Jew,” someone shouted as the whole group started jumping in a scene that might have been ludicrous if it weren’t for the hateful message. “Death to the Jews!” the crowd shouted in Arabic.

This scene last Thursday came in the wake of an earlier demonstration supposed to defend the Palestinians suffering in Gaza, which turned quickly into a hatefest targeting Israel, with people carrying placards that screamed “Zionism is Nazism.” But while the comingling of pro-Palestinian, anti-Zionist and anti-Semitic sentiment has become all too common in European protests in recent weeks, that the battle flag of the Islamic State waved in the streets of The Netherlands on July 24 is something new and particularly dangerous.

***

Even before the recent conflict in Gaza, anti-Semitic incidents were on the increase in France. Last year more than 3,000 Jews decided to move and make their future in Israel.

In May four people were shot dead at a Jewish museum in Brussels.

Governments face a dilemma: they want to defend the right to protest against Israel’s attacks in heavily-populated Gaza and yet they are not prepared to have anti-Semitic slogans once again shouted on the streets of Europe…

A former Israeli minister, Natan Sharansky, was quoted at the weekend as saying “we are seeing the beginning of the end of Jewish history in Europe”.

***

There has been also been an explosion of anti-semitic abuse on social networks, including Facebook and Twitter.

One man called for a Jewish neighbourhood in London to be bombed so ‘Jews feel the pain’ of the Palestinians.

In a separate incident, a BBC journalist was reprimanded after seeming to suggest western politicians failed to intervene in the Middle East because they had been ‘bought’ by the Jews…

In Germany an Imam reportedly called on Muslims to murder ‘Zionist Jews’ and Jewish people have been attacked in the street.

Police had to step in to protect an Israeli tourist couple from protesters who charged at them shouting ‘Jew! We’ll get you.’

***

Meanwhile in Austria this week, a friendly football match between the Israel’s Maccabi Haifa and a French team had to be called off, after protesters stormed the pitch and fought with the players. The Haifa captain, Yossi Benayoun, defended his players for fighting back, saying “We had no choice but to defend ourselves”.

The pitch invaders in Austria were mostly immigrants of Palestinian origin, and around Europe the new anti-Semitism is being seen a phenomenon confined to Arab and Muslim communities.

The Israeli ambassador to Germany, Yakov Hadas-Handelsman, claimed this week that the protests against Israel are attracting an “unholy alliance” of Islamists, neo-Nazis and extreme leftists

“Islamists and Nazis share ‘the Jew’ as the enemy,” Raphael Gross, director of Frankfurt’s Jewish Museum, told Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung. “Historically, this coalition is therefore not inconceivable.

***

Very often, anti-Israel protesters treat Israel not just as a nation at war – like Britain, America or France, which also frequently launch wars that kill huge numbers of civilians – but also as the warper of policy and morality in the West, as a source of poison in global affairs, as the architect of instability across the globe. Indeed, a few years ago a poll of Europeans found that a majority of them view Israel as “the biggest threat to world peace”. So Israel is undoubtedly singled out by Leftists and others, and even more significantly it is singled out in a way that the Jews used to be singled out – that is, as a sinister, self-serving corrupter of nations and causer of chaos.

Much of today’s anti-Israel protesting has a conspiracy-theory feel to it, with its talk about powerful lobby groups designing wars behind closed doors in order to isolate Israel’s enemies and boost Israel’s fortunes. And this is in keeping with Left-wing politics generally, today. The Left has increasingly embraced a conspiracy-theory view of the world. It is now very common to hear Leftists talk about the “cabals of neocons” who control world affairs, or the “cult of bankers” who wreak havoc on our economies, or the Murdoch Empire that “orchestrates public life from the shadows” (to quote Labour MP Tom Watson). All seriously analytical and nuanced readings of international trends and political dynamics have been elbowed aside by contemporary Leftists, who prefer instead to argue that dark, hidden, mysterious forces are ruining politics, plotting wars, and enriching themselves at the expense of the poor. And, as history shows us, there is a thin line between railing against wicked cabals and cults and wondering out loud whether the Jews are secretly running world affairs, or at least wielding a disproportionate influence…

It is not an accident that the three key planks of the Left-wing outlook today – the anti-Israel anti-war sentiment, the shallow anti-capitalism of Occupy, and the worship of those who leak info from within the citadels of power – should all have had issues with anti-Semitism. It is because the left, feeling isolated from the public and bereft of any serious means for understanding modern political and economic affairs, has bought into a super-simplistic, black-and-white, borderline David Icke view of the world as a place overrun and ruled by cabals and cults and sinister lobby groups. And who has always, without fail, been the final cabal, the last cult, to find themselves shouldering the ultimate blame for the warped, hidden workings of politics, the economy and foreign turmoil? You got it – the Jews.

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These days, though, it’s not always subtext. Listen to the Occupy protesters in the clip above. Read this chilling article from a Chavist newspaper in Venezuela. Worst of all, consider the slogans chanted by the crowds around Europe as they attack Jewish shops. Ponder this shaming statement that the Yad Vashem holocaust memorial organisation has felt driven to put out. This isn’t about Israel now, if ever it was. It’s about something altogether older and uglier.

Our political opinions often reflect our character traits. If you’re a generous and optimistic person, if you take pleasure in the success of others, you’re likely to be cheered by the story of the Jewish people, their success against the odds, their disproportionate intellectual contribution to mankind. Far from decrying commercial and financial accomplishments, you recognise them as a source of happiness for everyone.

If, on the other hand, you are determined to see every exchange as a form of exploitation, every success as someone else’s defeat, every trade as a swindle, then the same promptings that make you anti-Israel may well make you anti-Semitic. It’s a tragic condition, a form of existential envy, and it goes back, if the Book of Esther is to be believed, at least 2,500 years:

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And again, you have to ask yourself, what do these groups want? What would they accomplish if they could accomplish anything? What would the Israelis do if they could do what they want? They would live in peace with their neighbors, if they had neighbors who would live in peace with them. They would simply continue to build out their high tech sector and thrive…

What do groups like ISIS and al-Qaeda and even Hamas want? They want to impose their religious views on the rest of humanity. They want stifle every freedom that decent, educated, secular people care about. This is not a trivial difference. And yet judging from the level of condemnation that Israel now receives, you would think the difference ran the other way.

This kind of confusion puts all of us in danger. This is the great story of our time. For the rest of our lives, and the lives of our children, we are going to be confronted by people who don’t want to live peacefully in a secular, pluralistic world, because they are desperate to get to Paradise, and they are willing to destroy the very possibility of human happiness along the way. The truth is, we are all living in Israel. It’s just that some of us haven’t realized it yet.


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OC!

PolAgnostic on July 28, 2014 at 10:41 PM

Ratso!

OmahaConservative on July 28, 2014 at 10:41 PM

Calling all Wenches, Rude Buffoons, loons and trolls…

OmahaConservative on July 28, 2014 at 10:42 PM

Darn.

gh on July 28, 2014 at 10:42 PM

Annoyingtwerp ain’t going to like this. Ugh!

Judge_Dredd on July 28, 2014 at 10:43 PM

I hate all antisemites as much as I hate liberal progressive pigs.

May they all die slowly and in as much pain as humanly possible.

Diluculo on July 28, 2014 at 10:43 PM

To quote RWM and me from an earlier post…

Israeli Leftists Have Their Peace Rally Cut Short When Hamas Starts Firing Rockets At Them…
But, but, but, all they were saying was give peace a chance!
Resist We Much on July 28, 2014 at 8:23 PM
I wonder if they were singing that ridiculous song when rockets started raining down. It would be rather ironic to be blown up by a bit of reality while exercising one’s naiveté.
Doc Holliday on July 28, 2014 at 9:53 PM

Doc Holliday on July 28, 2014 at 10:44 PM

Annoyingtwerp ain’t going to like this. Ugh!

Judge_Dredd on July 28, 2014 at 10:43 PM

None of us do except nonpartisan, cr, libfree, etc, etc…

OmahaConservative on July 28, 2014 at 10:44 PM

Good evening ladies and gentlemen.

crankyoldlady on July 28, 2014 at 10:45 PM

Good evening ladies and gentlemen.

crankyoldlady on July 28, 2014 at 10:45 PM

You are the first lady to show up…

OmahaConservative on July 28, 2014 at 10:46 PM

Most of the protesters are jihadis or the far far left.

Bibi is doing well and Obama and Kerry are exposing their true selves.

I hope Israel can destroy most of the tunnels before they are forced to withdraw.

gh on July 28, 2014 at 10:46 PM

Blah blah blah! It’s QOTD time!

coolrepublica on July 28, 2014 at 10:47 PM

Wow, it’s going down fast. We won’t last two more years.

Who is John Galt on July 28, 2014 at 10:47 PM

Speak of loony anti-semites…

OmahaConservative on July 28, 2014 at 10:47 PM

Dieter Graumann, head of the Central Council of Jews in Germany, was quoted by the Wall Street Journal as saying that he had never thought it possible that “anti-Semitic slogans of the worst and most primitive kind could be chanted on German streets,” in his lifetime.

History is always repeated by the most repugnant, ignorant, trash humanity has to offer. These days the landfills are overflowing.

Diluculo on July 28, 2014 at 10:48 PM

I imagine most of those crazy protestors in Europe are muslims. Europe is full of them.

crankyoldlady on July 28, 2014 at 10:48 PM

Speak of loony anti-semites…

OmahaConservative on July 28, 2014 at 10:47 PM

It would appear your boy coolrethuglica showed up.

Judge_Dredd on July 28, 2014 at 10:49 PM

Through passivity before radical Islam, Europe attacks Jews who are her citizens, salving her burning conscience by equivocating them with the state of Israel. It is one thing to acc

It isn’t “radical Islam”, it’s ISLAM. The “religion” that Mohammad created. Idiot.

VorDaj on July 28, 2014 at 10:50 PM

Never Again:

Israel Air Force Ceremony – F-15 Jets over Auschwitz

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1FHvsuMzAc

canopfor on July 28, 2014 at 10:50 PM

Best post of the day on HA on this topic:

“Let me just tell you, if New Jersey were firing rockets into New York, we would wipe them out,” Rivers told TMZ Thursday. “[If] we heard they were digging tunnels from New Jersey to New York, we would get rid of Jersey, so I don’t want to hear anymore, ‘Oh, we’ll do a partial truce,’ and Palestinians, you cannot throw rockets and expect people not to defend themselves.”

Joan Rivers


Personally, my money’s on Jersey.

They can retreat south on the Turnpike while Chris “Jabba the Hut” Christie takes out their scout teams as midnight snacks.

PolAgnostic on July 28, 2014 at 10:51 PM

You are the first lady to show up…

OmahaConservative on July 28, 2014 at 10:46 PM

evening OC..
somebody had to bring the place some style and class..

evening COL… hope you are feeling better..

going2mars on July 28, 2014 at 10:51 PM

[sets out "We Reserve The Right To Serve Whomever We Dang Well Please, DAMMIT!!" signage...activates wireless drink stations and drone delivery service...usual caveats apply...sends out first round of Whatchudrinkin's in Brand-Spankin'-New Double Whatchudrinkin' glasses...enters under "Monday Night Recovery"...]

Newtie and the Beauty on July 28, 2014 at 10:52 PM

Keep the powder dry.

rob verdi on July 28, 2014 at 10:53 PM

evening COL… hope you are feeling better..

going2mars on July 28, 2014 at 10:51 PM

Some. I could use a good night’s sleep.

crankyoldlady on July 28, 2014 at 10:53 PM

Hopey Two Face:
===============

An Obama “Blast” From The Past
Posted by: Varda Epstein July 28, 2014
**************************************

But things have been different lately. Let’s hope they stay this way. I prefer this Bibi to the other one.

What’s really interesting however, is the juxtaposition of the contents of this recent phone call to that of a transcript dating back to 2008, when then Senator Barack Obama visited Israel. Let’s take a look:

On Sunday, July 27, 2014, President Barack Obama called the Prime Minister of Israel, Benyamin Netanyahu. According to the readout of the phone call released by the White House:

“The President made clear the strategic imperative of instituting an immediate, unconditional humanitarian ceasefire that ends hostilities now and leads to a permanent cessation of hostilities based on the November 2012 ceasefire agreement. . .The President underscored the enduring importance of . . . enacting a sustainable ceasefire that both allows Palestinians in Gaza to lead normal lives and addresses Gaza’s long-term development and economic needs, while strengthening the Palestinian Authority.”

Now for the 2008 transcript. Funny, what a difference 6 years and two presidential election victories can make. Read it and weep.

July 23, 2008
TRANSCRIPT
Obama’s Speech in Sderot, Israel

The following is a transcript of Senator Barack Obama’s speech in Sderot, Israel, as provided by CQ Transcriptions, Inc.

OBAMA:

“I don’t think any country would find it acceptable to have missiles raining down on the heads of their citizens.

The first job of any nation state is to protect its citizens. And so I can assure you that if — I don’t even care if I was a politician. If somebody was sending rockets into my house where my two daughters sleep at night, I’m going to do everything in my power to stop that. And I would expect Israelis to do the same thing.

In terms of negotiations with Hamas, it is very hard to negotiate with a group that is not representative of a nation state, does not recognize your right to exist, has consistently used terror as a weapon, and is deeply influenced by other countries. I think that Hamas leadership will have to make a decision at some point as to whether it is a serious political party seeking to represent the aspirations of the Palestinian people. And, as a consequence, willing to recognize Israel’s right to exist and renounce violence as a tool to achieve its aims. Or whether it wants to continue to operate as a terrorist organization. Until that point, it’s hard for Israel, I think, to negotiate with a country that — or with a group that doesn’t recognize Israel’s right to exist at a country — OK.”

Guess things look very different from a senator’s seat, or rather, when you’re riding the campaign trail, it’s a horse of an entirely different, um, color. So which Obama is the real Obama? The one sitting pretty in the White House, or the one who is a senator desperate to get a taste of the presidential high life?

http://www.israellycool.com/2014/07/28/an-obama-blast-from-the-past/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Israellycool+%28Israellycool%29

https://twitter.com/Israellycool

canopfor on July 28, 2014 at 7:11 PM

canopfor on July 28, 2014 at 10:53 PM

Good evening ladies and gentlemen.

crankyoldlady on July 28, 2014 at 10:45 PM

Evening. Hope all is well.

wifarmboy on July 28, 2014 at 10:54 PM

Some. I could use a good night’s sleep.
crankyoldlady on July 28, 2014 at 10:53 PM

COL, was the hospital able to do anything for you? I so hate the idea of good people like yourself in pain :-(

Newtie and the Beauty on July 28, 2014 at 10:54 PM

So Israel is undoubtedly singled out by Leftists and others, and even more significantly it is singled out in a way that the Jews used to be singled out – that is, as a sinister, self-serving corrupter of nations and causer of chaos.

Well, if you buy into the “Jews control the media” narrative…………..

Irrational hatred predicted by Scripture.

nobar on July 28, 2014 at 10:54 PM

We are the ones we’ve been waiting for!

Bishop on July 28, 2014 at 10:54 PM

Obama has ushered in Holocaust 2.0.

faraway on July 28, 2014 at 10:54 PM

Some. I could use a good night’s sleep.

crankyoldlady on July 28, 2014 at 10:53 PM

Imagine it was hard to sleep last night thinking about the trip to ER this morning…

OmahaConservative on July 28, 2014 at 10:55 PM

I hate all antisemites as much as I hate liberal progressive pigs.

May they all die slowly and in as much pain as humanly possible.

Diluculo on July 28, 2014 at 10:43 PM


FYI
… Your Venn diagrams almost completely overlap.

;->

Or as I tweeted in a reply over the weekend:

What’s happening?
Dems – 50 yr pogrom against AA families
Hate Jews? – no need 4 subtlety

PolAgnostic on July 28, 2014 at 10:55 PM

Free wood.

Judge_Dredd on July 28, 2014 at 10:55 PM

my point was that let’s not turn hitler into some cartoon villain nonpartisan on July 28, 2014 at 10:46 PM

O_o

wolly4321 on July 28, 2014 at 10:55 PM

COL, was the hospital able to do anything for you? I so hate the idea of good people like yourself in pain :-(

Newtie and the Beauty on July 28, 2014 at 10:54 PM

The best they could do is tell me what I don’t have. I have all these auto-immune issues and I tend to attribute everything wrong to that.

crankyoldlady on July 28, 2014 at 10:55 PM

Well, the left has always loved dead Jews. Stalin, Hitler, Mussolini.

Difference now? We don’t have a government of Christians who will stand up for the Jews. Instead, we have a government who hates them.

Vanceone on July 28, 2014 at 10:56 PM

Blah blah blah! It’s QOTD time!

coolrepublica on July 28, 2014 at 10:47 PM

Next time you’re passin’ by, we’d appreciate it…

bimmcorp on July 28, 2014 at 10:56 PM

Next time you’re passin’ by, we’d appreciate it…

bimmcorp on July 28, 2014 at 10:56 PM

I don’t get what you are saying.

coolrepublica on July 28, 2014 at 10:57 PM

“Let me just tell you, if New Jersey were firing rockets into New York, we would wipe them out,” Rivers told TMZ Thursday. “[If] we heard they were digging tunnels from New Jersey to New York, we would get rid of Jersey, so I don’t want to hear anymore, ‘Oh, we’ll do a partial truce,’ and Palestinians, you cannot throw rockets and expect people not to defend themselves.”

Joan Rivers

Actually, we have a concrete historical example in this nation. Fire on Fort Sumter and see how long it takes the Union to declare war on the Southern rebels…and how inclined the Union is to declare a “partial truce” with the Confederacy, or engage in decades of “peace negotiations”, or even consider permanently ceding any region over to the Confederacy to set up it’s own state.

thatsafactjack on July 28, 2014 at 10:57 PM

1945: NEVER FORGET!!!

2014: Never forget what?

questionmark on July 28, 2014 at 10:57 PM

https://twitter.com/i24news_EN

i24news_EN @i24news_EN · 54m

N Korea slams reports of arms deals with #Hamas, #Hezbollah ►► http://i24ne.ws/zGCao

i24news_EN @i24news_EN · Jul 25

Pro-Palestinian protesters torch #Israeli, #Australian flags in Melbourne ►► http://i24ne.ws/zzQyp #Israel #Gaza

canopfor on July 28, 2014 at 10:58 PM

Speaking of burning-this little Jooo accidentally set her oven(see what I did there) on fire. I was trying out a new recipe for a friend’s husband’s funeral-and I guess the cheepy bake pans leaked on the heating element.
Maintenance says oven should be fine once I clean it. Rental agency says that bottom looks burned and if it doesn’t clean up-our RI will have to cover a new oven.
So far me and my trusty pot scrubber are cleaning it up. Me and my boozed-up coffee will be in/out of the thread tonight.

annoyinglittletwerp on July 28, 2014 at 10:58 PM

Free wood.
Judge_Dredd on July 28, 2014 at 10:55 PM

Ed Wood

Newtie and the Beauty on July 28, 2014 at 10:58 PM

Anti-semitism has been around for a long time.
There needs to be no reason for it, it just is.
It has no basis for existing in the real world, it just does.
It can’t be stopped, or alleviated, or attenuated. It just can’t.
If there is any question why they might be the chosen people, well, there it is.

DemetriusPhalerum on July 28, 2014 at 11:00 PM

Some. I could use a good night’s sleep.

crankyoldlady on July 28, 2014 at 10:53 PM

you need a HA bedtime story…
hmm ….thinking
where is that Greek kid when we need him…
Axe could tell you a h3ll of a night time story I bet..
we wouldn’t have a clue what it was about or
even if it ended well.. but it would be a dandy..
I bet ms J could pen you a wondermus delightful story or twenty…
OW prolly has a bed time story in him…
(no rockstar hotel stories please…)

who would you like to hear a bed time story from??

going2mars on July 28, 2014 at 11:00 PM

Speaking of burning-this little Jooo accidentally set her oven(see what I did there) on fire.
annoyinglittletwerp on July 28, 2014 at 10:58 PM

It had it coming.

questionmark on July 28, 2014 at 11:00 PM

The best they could do is tell me what I don’t have. I have all these auto-immune issues and I tend to attribute everything wrong to that.
crankyoldlady on July 28, 2014 at 10:55 PM

Oh, COL! That makes me so onion-eyed!

Newtie and the Beauty on July 28, 2014 at 11:00 PM

What do groups like ISIS and al-Qaeda and even Hamas want? They want to impose their religious views on the rest of humanity. They want stifle every freedom that decent, educated, secular people care about. This is not a trivial difference. And yet judging from the level of condemnation that Israel now receives, you would think the difference ran the other way.

This kind of confusion puts all of us in danger. This is the great story of our time. For the rest of our lives, and the lives of our children, we are going to be confronted by people who don’t want to live peacefully in a secular, pluralistic world, because they are desperate to get to Paradise, and they are willing to destroy the very possibility of human happiness along the way. The truth is, we are all living in Israel. It’s just that some of us haven’t realized it yet.

Sam Harris @samharris.org on July 27, 2014

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Groups like ISIS, al-Qaeda and Hamas don’t know what they want, in the long term.

It’s all too easy for people who have no relationship with God, to go on killing sprees, when they believe something like the Koran is telling them it’s their DUTY to do so.
.
Why can’t all of the modern day critics of the Crusades view all of this as “reverse-Crusades”?

listens2glenn on July 28, 2014 at 11:00 PM

I don’t get what you are saying.

coolrepublica on July 28, 2014 at 10:57 PM

That’s because you’re stupid.

bimmcorp on July 28, 2014 at 11:00 PM

Ed Wood

Newtie and the Beauty on July 28, 2014 at 10:58 PM

Looks more like David Niven.

Judge_Dredd on July 28, 2014 at 11:00 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on July 28, 2014 at 10:58 PM

That’s what you get for buying your baking pans at Wally’s…

OmahaConservative on July 28, 2014 at 11:01 PM

Flotilla 2 up in smoke? (sarc)

https://twitter.com/ImtiazTyabAJE

Gaza City, Gaza, PS
2m
Photo: Fire reportedly seen at Gaza’s port after blast from air strikes – @ImtiazTyabAJE

mtiaz Tyab @ImtiazTyabAJE · 14m

The view from my room. #Gaza’s port on fire. Blast so intense our hotel shook. Some windows blown in.

https://twitter.com/ImtiazTyabAJE/status/493950205616586752/photo/1

canopfor on July 28, 2014 at 11:01 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on July 28, 2014 at 10:58 PM

Always buy quality foil.

nobar on July 28, 2014 at 11:02 PM

Blah blah blah! It’s QOTD time!

coolrepublica on July 28, 2014 at 10:47 PM

Considering the topic,
You were waiting all day for this thread, huh?

Joan Rivers says Hi.

ToddPA on July 28, 2014 at 11:03 PM

The cause is very simple: Western education has gone soft, passive. They no longer teach the incredible achievements by their populace. They have abandoned the teaching of a moral character. Result – WWI, WWII. And now, a senseless guilt trip over poorer nations that refuse to look at what works. They would rather be jealous and envious and covet what others have instead of working for it.

Attitudes must change; leaders must start acting like leaders and ignore the guilt mindset of the left.

MN J on July 28, 2014 at 11:03 PM

OmahaConservative on July 28, 2014 at 11:01 PM

That’s what I get for trying to split a recipe 3 ways. Had I made it CORRECTLY I could have used my 11×13 pan.

annoyinglittletwerp on July 28, 2014 at 11:04 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on July 28, 2014 at 10:58 PM

Always buy quality foil.

nobar on July 28, 2014 at 11:02 PM

Damn straight. My hats are made from nothing less than Reynolds’ best.

viking01 on July 28, 2014 at 11:05 PM

Considering the topic,
You were waiting all day for this thread, huh?

Joan Rivers says Hi.

ToddPA on July 28, 2014 at 11:03 PM

She doesn’t understand what you are saying…

OmahaConservative on July 28, 2014 at 11:05 PM

Caroline Glick – same post as above

Between 5:00 and 6:00 she states that Kerry and Obama already transferred $47M to Hamas … I had thought it was just a proposal. You all really need to hear some of this.

gh on July 28, 2014 at 11:05 PM

At the root of modern anti-semitism is socialism.

bluegill on July 28, 2014 at 11:05 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on July 28, 2014 at 11:04 PM

What were you making?

OmahaConservative on July 28, 2014 at 11:06 PM

We are the ones we’ve been waiting for!

Bishop on July 28, 2014 at 10:54 PM

F*cking A Right!

ToddPA on July 28, 2014 at 11:06 PM

That’s because you’re stupid.

bimmcorp on July 28, 2014 at 11:00 PM

So you actually believe you made perfect sense? Ok. I never asked.

coolrepublica on July 28, 2014 at 11:06 PM

From Ace:


Atheist Sam Harris: Here’s Why I Don’t Criticize Israel

After establishing his secular/atheist credentials, and noting his objection go any state organized around religious identity (though he allows that if it were permissible for any state to be organized around a religious identity, that permitted state would be Israel, given the need for an Escape Hatch for the world’s Jews as proven by just about all of the history of the last several thousand years), he begins explaining why he stands with Israel.

This is a long piece. I’m just excerpting parts of his best argument. I’m also cutting out a lot of his nuances, because, well, I can’t just excerpt everything.

[T]his gets to the heart of the moral difference between Israel and her enemies. And this is something I discussed in The End of Faith. To see this moral difference, you have to ask what each side would do if they had the power to do it.

What would the Jews do to the Palestinians if they could do anything they wanted? Well, we know the answer to that question, because they can do more or less anything they want. The Israeli army could kill everyone in Gaza tomorrow. So what does that mean? Well, it means that, when they drop a bomb on a beach and kill four Palestinian children, as happened last week, this is almost certainly an accident. They’re not targeting children. They could target as many children as they want….

What would the Palestinians do to the Jews in Israel if the power imbalance were reversed? Well, they have told us what they would do. For some reason, Israel’s critics just don’t want to believe the worst about a group like Hamas, even when it declares the worst of itself.

Consider the moral difference between using human shields and being deterred by them. That is the difference we’re talking about. The Israelis and other Western powers are deterred, however imperfectly, by the Muslim use of human shields in these conflicts, as we should be…

Now imagine reversing the roles here. Imagine how fatuous–indeed comical it would be–for the Israelis to attempt to use human shields to deter the Palestinians…. Imagine the Israelis holding up their own women and children as human shields. Of course, that would be ridiculous. The Palestinians are trying to kill everyone. Killing women and children is part of the plan. Reversing the roles here produces a grotesque Monty Python skit.

That’s a very cutting point. Try to imagine it — you can’t. It’s absurd. Not because Israelis wouldn’t use human shields — they wouldn’t, but that’s not the most absurd part.

The absurd part is the idea that Hamas would be in any way deterred by this, rather than thinking, “F***in’ awesome!”

Many didn’t believe Hitler when he said that Jews had to be exterminated either and how’d that work out for the world?

As I have long said, when someone says that he wants to kill you, BELIEVE HIM.

Resist We Much on July 28, 2014 at 11:06 PM

Your fish showed up Omaha.

Judge_Dredd on July 28, 2014 at 11:07 PM

bluegill on July 28, 2014 at 11:05 PM

Where have you been?

OmahaConservative on July 28, 2014 at 11:07 PM

Your fish showed up Omaha.

Judge_Dredd on July 28, 2014 at 11:07 PM

Yup, I see that…

OmahaConservative on July 28, 2014 at 11:08 PM

crankyoldlady on July 28

you could always watch live Meteor shower webcast..
always puts me to sleep…

Slooh Delta Aquarid Meteor Shower Webcast

http://www.space.com/19195-night-sky-planets-asteroids-webcasts.html

going2mars on July 28, 2014 at 11:09 PM

Considering the topic,
You were waiting all day for this thread, huh?

Joan Rivers says Hi.

ToddPA on July 28, 2014 at 11:03 PM

Yes yes! I woke up this morning and I was like “gosh I wish it was night already so QOTD could be up and I can type blah blah blah”. And I got really sad because it was only 7am. Yep!

coolrepublica on July 28, 2014 at 11:09 PM

OmahaConservative on July 28, 2014 at 11:06 PM

Raspberry cobbler.

annoyinglittletwerp on July 28, 2014 at 11:09 PM

going2mars on July 28, 2014 at 11:09 PM

Less than a year now. We’ll be at Pluto.

Judge_Dredd on July 28, 2014 at 11:10 PM

On the radio today I heard an ad promoting healthcare for “the undocumented.”

The narrator, in a heavy foreign accent and trying to sound very sympathetic, said, “we are the undocumented. We are more likely to have serious illnesses. We are your classmates. We are your neighbors. We all prosper when all of us have healthcare.”

I wanted to scream. This is outrageous. I wanted to scream. I am going to find the audio of the ad and post it.

bluegill on July 28, 2014 at 11:10 PM

So you actually believe you made perfect sense? Ok. I never asked.

coolrepublica on July 28, 2014 at 11:06 PM

I said, “The next time you’re passing by, we would appreciate it.”

Is English really that tough for you? Idiot. Anti-Semite, racist idiot. No more…no less.

bimmcorp on July 28, 2014 at 11:11 PM

Raspberry cobbler.

annoyinglittletwerp on July 28, 2014 at 11:09 PM

Yummm…

OmahaConservative on July 28, 2014 at 11:11 PM

From VDH:

Christians and Jews — So What?

Christians are being exterminated and cleansed from Iraq and Syria. But we seem to think they are equivalent to bible-thumping Texas evangelicals and their killers exotic versions of Che, and so the ethnic cleansing is rarely condemned. If Barack Obama would just close his eyes and envision ISIS, Hamas, or Putin as the Tea Party or Fox News, and then react accordingly, the world would be a safer place.

Israel is trying to figure out an effective policy against Hamas. I say struggling, because Hamas is 7th century: using schools, mosques, and hospitals as missile storehouses, wiring up animals to be suicide bombers, stocking up handcuffs and syringes to capture Israeli soldiers for Aztec-like treatment, urging their civilians to become human shields.

In general, the liberal principle persists that when Arabs on the offense kill lots of Arabs it is normal, but when Jews in defense kill far fewer Arabs it is reprehensible. If Israel were weak, Hamas would do to it what ISIS is now doing to Christians, and the world would react to the rout and slaughter of the Jews with the indifference that it shows to Christians. Wait, it does that anyway.

Yet victory is not an anachronistic ideal; it persists across time and space as long as the human condition remains constant. If the IDF inflicts a great deal of punishment on Hamas, as it did to Hezbollah in 2006, then eventually those whose homes were repositories for missiles and tunnel openings and are now junk will blame (privately) Hamas as much as Israel. Even Hitler lost public opinion once he looked clueless amid the suffering he had caused all those who once cheered him on.

The reputation of Europe, such as it was, is shredded. It weighed Russian commerce and trade versus Russian barbarity, and so far profits have won hands-down. It trashed the interventionism of George W. Bush and now laments the isolationism of Barack Obama — the only constant being whatever America does, it objects to it. What then does Europe want from the U.S.? Apparently a huge American military subject to the dictates of European “soft power,” as an occasional back-up force when European sermons are laughed at abroad (e.g., “If you do not listen to our exalted Athenian logic, then we will turn loose our brutal blood-loving Roman legions on you”). Unfortunately for the Europeans, they got the president they wanted, and now rue that wish. The EU is being exposed as a self-indulgent socialist mess, full of class tensions, increasing racism and anti-Semitism, angry unassimilated immigrants and minorities, and as a proverbial baying lamb with a wolf next door.

United Barbarity

Secretary General of the UN Ban Ki-moon is blasting Israel for retaliating against the barrage of Hamas rockets. He seems content that UN schools were hiding Hamas missiles. The UN has become a de facto ally of Hamas, and Ban Ki-moon’s rhetoric reflects that alliance. In terms of missiles, does he believe that his UN also prevents North Korea from gassing or firing on his homeland — or is South Korean safety due to the presence of the Neanderthal forces of the U.S.? Could not Israel lecture Mr. Ki-moon to be more tolerant of the next over flight of North Korea missiles, to worry less about Pyongyang’s bomb, and to please ask the U.S. to leave South Korean soil?

No-Drama Obama

The U.S. looks at the current global violence and then looks away, after a call for a “pivot” or a flash card calling for Boko Haram to give back the girls it has enslaved. Our generation’s version of the bad memories of the 1918 Meuse-Argonne Offensive is Iraq and Afghanistan. Like our grandparents of the 1930s, we feel that the dead lost abroad in the most recent wars were not worth it — and so ignore the gathering war clouds on the present horizon, as if ignoring them means they must disappear.

Glance about — Central America, Venezuela, China, Russia, Ukraine, Crimea, Gaza, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Turkey, etc. — and the world outside the West is mostly a nasty place. The three common denominators in all these catastrophes are the usual demagogic leaders blaming someone else for their people’s own self-inflicted miseries, a comfortable West that shrugs that somehow all these depressing things and mean people will just go away — and a tired global enforcer whose community organizer leader went into retirement and offers “make no mistake about it” warnings between swings on the golf course.

Resist We Much on July 28, 2014 at 11:11 PM

Caroline Glick – same post as above

Between 5:00 and 6:00 she states that Kerry and Obama already transferred $47M to Hamas … I had thought it was just a proposal. You all really need to hear some of this.

gh on July 28, 2014 at 11:05 PM

gh: Thank-You,…me is listening as I type!:)

canopfor on July 28, 2014 at 11:12 PM

And I got really sad because it was only 7am. Yep!

coolrepublica on July 28, 2014 at 11:09 PM

Aww, Bat guano!!! Your kind doesn’t get up until the crack of noon.

bimmcorp on July 28, 2014 at 11:12 PM

Slooh Delta Aquarid Meteor Shower Webcast

http://www.space.com/19195-night-sky-planets-asteroids-webcasts.html

going2mars on July 28, 2014 at 11:09 PM

Nothing going on right now. It’s 56 here and will go lower. At least the wind has died down.

crankyoldlady on July 28, 2014 at 11:12 PM

Another guy out for a walk with a RPG…

Libya: British Embassy Convoy Attacked

What difference, at this point, does it make???

Resist We Much on July 28, 2014 at 11:13 PM

Where have you been?
OmahaConservative on July 28, 2014 at 11:07 PM

Have a lot going on right now.

Will be able to post here more in coming days.
Need to take off now.

Take care, all!!

bluegill on July 28, 2014 at 11:13 PM

Off it goes!

Judge_Dredd on July 28, 2014 at 11:15 PM

Bye bluegill.

coolrepublica on July 28, 2014 at 11:15 PM

Off it goes!

Judge_Dredd on July 28, 2014 at 11:15 PM

Heh…

OmahaConservative on July 28, 2014 at 11:15 PM

What would happen if the jihadis actually killed everyone, they all stand around looking at each other saying “Uhhh…now what?”

Bishop on July 28, 2014 at 11:15 PM

RWM; UN means ‘UNeccesary’. See ‘League of Nations’.

DemetriusPhalerum on July 28, 2014 at 11:16 PM

Yes yes! I woke up this morning and I was like “gosh I wish it was night already so QOTD could be up and I can type blah blah blah”. And I got really sad because it was only 7am. Yep!

coolrepublica on July 28, 2014 at 11:09 PM

If it makes you feel better, Ned was feeling that too…..

ToddPA on July 28, 2014 at 11:16 PM

https://twitter.com/USGS

Medford, OK, US
4m
Shaking reported in Wichita, Kan., after magnitude 4.0 earthquake hits near Medford, Okla. – @USGS
Read more on usgs.gov

canopfor on July 28, 2014 at 11:17 PM

What would happen if the jihadis actually killed everyone, they all stand around looking at each other saying “Uhhh…now what?”

Bishop on July 28, 2014 at 11:15 PM

Nope, they would just return to their favorite pastime, killing each other.

oscarwilde on July 28, 2014 at 11:17 PM

That’s what I get for trying to split a recipe 3 ways. Had I made it CORRECTLY I could have used my 11×13 pan. annoyinglittletwerp on July 28, 2014 at 11:04 PM

How do you split 11 x 13 3 ways?

wolly4321 on July 28, 2014 at 11:19 PM

So you actually believe you made perfect sense? Ok. I never asked.

coolrepublica on July 28, 2014 at 11:06 PM

I said, “The next time you’re passing by, we would appreciate it.”

Is English really that tough for you? Idiot. Anti-Semite, racist idiot. No more…no less.

bimmcorp on July 28, 2014 at 11:11 PM

Keep moving is hard to comprehend for anti-Semite nazis.

Schadenfreude on July 28, 2014 at 11:19 PM

VDH scares the shiznatch out of me sometimes.

Bishop on July 28, 2014 at 11:19 PM

Yes yes! I woke up this morning and I was like “gosh I wish it was night already so QOTD could be up and I can type blah blah blah”. And I got really sad because it was only 7am. Yep!

coolrepublica on July 28, 2014 at 11:09 PM

If it makes you feel better, Ned was feeling that too…..

ToddPA on July 28, 2014 at 11:16 PM

Yes I feel such relief hearing this. Thank you! My day is complete now.

coolrepublica on July 28, 2014 at 11:21 PM

What would happen if the jihadis actually killed everyone, they all stand around looking at each other saying “Uhhh…now what?”

Bishop on July 28, 2014 at 11:15 PM

I’m sure they would find something to disagree about with each other until only one would be standing.

wifarmboy on July 28, 2014 at 11:21 PM

wolly4321 on July 28, 2014 at 11:19 PM

Obviously-you don’t. LoL

annoyinglittletwerp on July 28, 2014 at 11:21 PM

What would happen if the jihadis actually killed everyone, they all stand around looking at each other saying “Uhhh…now what?”

Bishop on July 28, 2014 at 11:15 PM

Then they start offing Camels who’ve been Touched by Jooooooos.

ToddPA on July 28, 2014 at 11:21 PM

Actually, we have a concrete historical example in this nation. Fire on Fort Sumter and see how long it takes the Union to declare war on the Southern rebels…and how inclined the Union is to declare a “partial truce” with the Confederacy, or engage in decades of “peace negotiations”, or even consider permanently ceding any region over to the Confederacy to set up it’s own state.

thatsafactjack on July 28, 2014 at 10:57 PM

.
Do you also refer to it as “The War of Northern Aggression”?

;)

On the serious side of this topic, I moved into the Deep South in the early ’70′s and received a “immersive education” (i.e. keep your mouth shut and just listen unless you want someone to “accidentally” drop a ton of concrete on your head) while working construction.

Just over a century later some under-reported facts stood out:

- Reconstruction WAS the raping and pillaging of the South far beyond the scope of the war. If you want proof, look at the “southern cuisine” the Yankees made fun of and realize you’d eat chitlins and pigs feet too when the pig meat was taken as taxes.

- At that time, the South was a matriarchal society because the loss of so many adult and near adult males during the Civil War was not something that could be “made up” in one or two generations. And many of the adult males in the early ’70′s only had labor intensive jobs to choose from across areas that could be measured in the thousands of square miles.

– Caucasians and African-Americans lived in poverty side by side with LESS racism than I had witnessed growing up in New York. Both groups HATED Yankees as a default position – funny how decades of getting screwed over regardless of color will affect people’s outlook.

PolAgnostic on July 28, 2014 at 11:21 PM

Coolr, how cool is it that IS is demolishing all those old structures, Christian and Shia?

How come the entire left, incl. the pope, are silent?

How liberal are you all?

Schadenfreude on July 28, 2014 at 11:22 PM

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