If voters had it to do over, Romney in a landslide

posted at 3:31 pm on July 27, 2014 by Noah Rothman

Polls which ask voters for their thoughts on how the last election should have shaped up a year or two years after the fact are pretty much meaningless. The latest CNN/ORC survey which asks voters that question is no exception to that rule. Nevertheless, with just 100 days remaining before the midterm elections, this question is an instructive measurement of voter satisfaction with the president.

If voters had it to do all over again, 53 percent would support Mitt Romney over the 44 percent who would continue to back Barack Obama. The president’s remaining coalition is what you would expect it to be; voters aged 18 – 34, Northeasterners, Democrats, self-identified liberals and moderates, urban and minority voters.

Where the president suffers the most in this survey is among women. CNN/ORC found that women voters backed Romney over Obama by 52 to 45 percent. That is almost identical to the margins among male voters (54/43 percent) and dramatic reversal from 2012 when the nationwide exit polls showed women backed Obama by double digits (55/44 percent).

There is not much in the way of good news for Obama in this poll. A majority say Obama is not a “strong and decisive leader.” By 56 to 43 percent, voters say Obama does not agree with them on the issues they “care about.” Only 42 percent say Obama can manage the government effectively; 57 percent believe he cannot.

But this survey is not all roses for Republicans either. In 2012, Obama trounced Romney by 63 points when voters were asked which candidate “cares about people like me.” While Romney has closed that gap in the intervening years since the last presidential election, he has not overcome the deficit entirely. By 51 to 48 percent (though within this poll’s 3.5 percent margin of error), voters still believe Obama cares more about them than does Romney.

Moreover, even in spite of Romney’s rehabilitation, voters would still back Clinton at this stage of the 2016 cycle by 55 to 42 percent.

This post has been updated since its original publication.


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Romney’s inability to win conservative voters definitely pushed the country farther to the left, but the tragic part is realizing his win definitely would’ve done the same not only to the country, but to the party as well. Frankly, it probably did anyway. If you’re a moneyed interest and watched a fairly liberal (R) candidate lose to an openly leftist progressive (D), would that make you think the winning solution for ’16 is a candidate to the right of Romney?
 
That said, I’d suggest a decent argument could be made that, if the (R)s somehow do decide to lurch back towards conservatism (no, really, I know, hahaha, but bear with me), it won’t be because they’re concerned about appealing to the people who showed they’d vote for Mitt/Anybody-But-Obama. Those idiot moron stay-home sit-on-their-handers might’ve done the best thing beyond just adhering to their morals and values, even if it didn’t give the immediate gratification of getting Obama out of office.
 
The only real questions now are whether (R)s go left or right from here and, if it’s to the left, whether we as voters support them taking the country/their party farther in that direction.
 
We’ll have to wait and see if a Jeb or Rubio gets the nod, of course, and I suspect one will, but it would be neat to look back years from now and think, “Huh. I guess those guys who voted their conscience were right. Go figure.”

rogerb on July 28, 2014 at 11:42 AM

Stupidity dies hard, if it dies at all. A number of apes would still vote for Clinton or Obama? May we have government subsidies for lobotomies please?

arand on July 28, 2014 at 11:47 AM

Yeah, but according to FOX the same poll has Hillary beating Romney.

so we are just as stupid as we were back in 08.

And will stay that way UNTIL the wheels come off. It is human nature and the reason why we aren’t dealing with the Egyptian empire, the Greek Empire or the Roman empire.

archer52 on July 28, 2014 at 11:53 AM

Hmmm The same pollsters that said Rmoney was ahead just before the election. Karl Rove paging Karl Rove

datrashman on July 28, 2014 at 1:15 PM

Mitt is not running. stop posting about a non-existent candidate and post about people who haven’t said they aren’t running-sheesh

gerrym51 on July 28, 2014 at 1:31 PM

I guess they figured out that Obama is NEVER going to buy them that new kitchen or buy their gas after all….

easyt65 on July 28, 2014 at 2:35 PM

Why has the GOP abandoned wallet issues

Groceries, gas, medical bills, insurance, electric bills etc have gone up so much in the past few years, that middle class folks, (those who work for a living) are having a difficult time. The young people graduating college can’t find real jobs? Where is the messaging? I’ve watched several GOP ads in various states and other than NC there is NOT one ad about the cost of living. People don’t understand ‘DC DEBT, DC spending’…they understand their own fiances. The cost of living is through the roof. A young person today who graduates college, and gets a decent job, still can’t make it on their own. Boomers and generations before had opportunities.

Not a peep

Nobody cares about immigration, abortion, gay marriage….foreign affairs

In the old days the GOP had the right message…WALLETS vote and everybody’s is thinner today, including those who live off the government

Redford on July 28, 2014 at 4:55 PM

Nobody cares about immigration, abortion, gay marriage….foreign affairs

In the old days the GOP had the right message…WALLETS vote and everybody’s is thinner today, including those who live off the government

Redford on July 28, 2014 at 4:55 PM

Wallet issues are good issues to talk about. That said, tons of people care about immigration, abortion, gay marriage, and foreign affairs.

One of the many mistakes Romney made was that he thought the election was only about the economy. It’s never the economy, stupid.

Stoic Patriot on July 28, 2014 at 5:16 PM

Oops … false alarm. Didn’t read it closely enough the first time.

Sorry S.P.’ … I falsely accused you.

listens2glenn on July 27, 2014 at 4:07 PM

http://spectator.org/articles/34451/mccain-beats-romney

VegasRick on July 27, 2014 at 4:11 PM

Maybe you should ponder the conclusion of that article:

What’s the lesson for the GOP? I’m not sure. There are no doubt other factors missing in my analysis. But this much seems certain: The old adage is true — people prefer to vote for someone rather than against someone. The Republican Party was banking on Republicans turning out to vote against Obama, regardless of who the Republican nominee was. To some extent, they did that — but not enough.

A lot of us were saying that for a long time. But all we heard in reply was the idiotic “a ham sandwich could beat Obama”.

And, sorry, but Obama would still beat Romney in a redo.

ddrintn on July 28, 2014 at 7:04 PM

Nobody cares about immigration, abortion, gay marriage….foreign affairs

In the old days the GOP had the right message…WALLETS vote and everybody’s is thinner today, including those who live off the government

Redford on July 28, 2014 at 4:55 PM

Wallet issues are good issues to talk about. That said, tons of people care about immigration, abortion, gay marriage, and foreign affairs.

One of the many mistakes Romney made was that he thought the election was only about the economy. It’s never the economy, stupid.

Stoic Patriot on July 28, 2014 at 5:16 PM

You and I and a few political junkies may care, but the majority do not. And maybe people don’t care about their wallets either. Perhaps we are to the point as long as the majority have their cell phones, food stamps, free health care, tv and ac..and no ambition ..then it’s over

Redford on July 28, 2014 at 7:14 PM

Most of us already knew that Romney would have made a better president, except that he did not do what it takes to win. If he had a second chance, he would probably repeat the GOP error of ignoring the base and trying to be a nice guy (who finishes last).

virgo on July 29, 2014 at 3:38 AM

You and I and a few political junkies may care, but the majority do not. And maybe people don’t care about their wallets either. Perhaps we are to the point as long as the majority have their cell phones, food stamps, free health care, tv and ac..and no ambition ..then it’s over

Redford on July 28, 2014 at 7:14 PM

I’d disagree with you on that. I think the vast majority of Americans care about issues like abortion, gay marriage, immigration, and foreign affairs. There’s a reason that most Americans consistently vote for the Republican or for the Democrat, and it’s because of things like social issues and foreign policy stances that tend to remain fairly consistent parts of a person’s governing philosophy for most people over time.

Are you going to have a set that vote for their free stuff? Sure. At the same time, they’re a minor segment of the country that consistently votes for the Democrats. Where we witness swings in voting patterns tend to be with LIVs who simply react to whatever the issue du jour is.

Stoic Patriot on July 29, 2014 at 7:58 AM

It was suppose to be a land slide the first time remember?
Remember Karl Rove and all the GOP analyst?
They keep down playing DEM corruption and illegal voting.

Jpalm32 on July 29, 2014 at 3:18 PM

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