Uncommon courage: Jeb Bush finally weighs in on the border crisis

posted at 9:21 am on July 24, 2014 by Noah Rothman

Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, long a vocal Republican proponent of reforming the nation’s immigration system, has been oddly silent while an immigration crisis erupted on America’s southern border.

On Thursday, along with Goldwater Institute Vice President Clint Bolick in the pages of The Wall Street Journal, Bush finally weighed in with this thoughts on the matter. In that op-ed, The former Florida governor took a more hardline approach to the crisis on the border, siding with the White House and most of the members of his party who say that the vast majority of those crossing the border will have to be deported.

“We now have a humanitarian crisis on our southern border that demands strong leadership that respects the rule of law,” the opinion piece read, noting that the present influx of border crossing migrants is a clear indication that the border is not secure.

“Despite President Obama’s reassurances, few of these children are likely to return home if nothing changes,” the op-ed added.

Currently the vast number of children is overwhelming the process. Roughly half do not show up for their hearings. As a result, judging by Homeland Security figures, only a fraction of the approximately 20,000 Central American children who entered the country illegally in 2013 were repatriated. By some estimates, as few as 2% of the 50,000 children who have crossed the border illegally this year have been sent home.

We must close loopholes that allow for individuals to be released from federal custody between hearings. Except for those deserving few who may demonstrate true cause for asylum or protection from sex trafficking, these children must be returned to their homes in Central America.

Next, we must aggressively remove the incentives that encourage people to break immigration laws. It is vital that we clearly communicate that there will be zero rewards for those who imperil the lives of children by sending them to the U.S. illegally. The children who have come here were provoked by adults and made to believe that crossing our border would be the key to their family’s escape from a life of poverty or danger. That must end.

Bush closes however with a nod to the project of immigration reform. His and Bolick’s op-ed concludes that the “Best antidote to illegal immigration” is a functioning system which values an influx of skilled laborers over “family-reunification.”

The guests on CNN’s politics panel thought that Bush was speaking directly to them with this last perfunctory message of support for immigration reform.

“I think including that language at the end there was done with the express purpose of preempting people like us from saying, ‘Oh, look at Jeb Bush, he’s becoming more hawkish on the border now,’” New York Times reporter Jonathan Martin submitted. “’He’s running from his reformer standpoint, trying to pander to the party.’”

CNN’s John King asked the right question; will Bush now make the case for reforming the immigration system, if he runs for president, as a candidate in spite of its obvious unpopularity with the base of his party. If the election were held this year, it would certainly cost him the nomination if he did.

Even Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL), a co-author of the Senate’s immigration reform bill, conceded that the border crisis has made reform a toxic notion. In an interview with NPR, Rubio said that border security must come first or there will be no reform measure passed for perhaps another decade.

A lot can change in two years, but, for now, the crisis on the southern border appears to have even turned off the GOP’s pro-reform voices to the cause of restructuring the nation’s immigration system.


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Certain elements of the govt getting lots of experience running detention centers and moving people around the country. I’m not sayin nothin I’m jus sayin.

Akzed on July 24, 2014 at 9:25 AM

I can’t even read what this oaf has to say about it; I just want him to go away.

M240H on July 24, 2014 at 9:26 AM

can’t even read what this oaf has to say about it; I just want him to go away.

M240H on July 24, 2014 at 9:26 AM

90% chance he’s the 2016 nominee, even if the GOP has to go bankrupt borrowing money to run ads calling us racists.

ConstantineXI on July 24, 2014 at 9:28 AM

If 2016 ends up being Jeb vs. Hillary I’m voting for SMOD

myiq2xu on July 24, 2014 at 9:30 AM

Go away Jeb.

Tyrs Fury on July 24, 2014 at 9:30 AM

Certain elements of the govt getting lots of experience running detention centers and moving people around the country. I’m not sayin nothin I’m jus sayin.

Akzed on July 24, 2014 at 9:25 AM

Moochelle’s lobster buffets aren’t just going to be shat out of unicorns. Someone has to labor to produce what the First Yeti wants, slavery be dammed.

ConstantineXI on July 24, 2014 at 9:31 AM

The voters will decide – pretty simple

jake-the-goose on July 24, 2014 at 9:32 AM

If 2016 ends up being Jeb vs. Hillary I’m voting for SMOD

myiq2xu on July 24, 2014 at 9:30 AM

Probably Jeb vs Lizbeth “you didn’t build that” Warren.

ConstantineXI on July 24, 2014 at 9:32 AM

“Best antidote to illegal immigration” is a functioning system which values an influx of skilled laborers over “family-reunification.”

Snort.

Chuckle.

Bahahaha.

chris0christies0donut on July 24, 2014 at 9:33 AM

Don’t tell me establishment Republicans don’t read the polls!

One point on the other side, (showing support for amnesty), Bush, Rubio, Ryan, and company would be right out front pandering to the masses. We’ll see how they really react when their Chamber of Commerce checks bounce.

Rovin on July 24, 2014 at 9:33 AM

The voters will decide – pretty simple

jake-the-goose on July 24, 2014 at 9:32 AM

Yep. Just like in Mississippi.

chris0christies0donut on July 24, 2014 at 9:35 AM

GOP leadership has decided to let Obama do it unilaterally and illegally. Sure they’ll feign outrage, but they will give him the extra money he needs to do it.

Wigglesworth on July 24, 2014 at 9:36 AM

amnesty-loving blogger-boi gushes over amnesty-loving presidential candidate’s amnesty nuance.

Jedditelol on July 24, 2014 at 9:36 AM

The former Florida governor took a more hardline approach to the crisis on the border, siding with the White House and most of the members of his party who say that the vast majority of those crossing the border will have to be deported.

That sounds like the same old wishy-washy middle of the row stance everone else is taking. It’s only dressed up a little differntly, to try and appeal to a broader range of people. Here’s a novel approach. Apply existing law and precedents to the situation. The USA is currently at war. Foriegn nationals sneaking into the country are considered spies and should be turned over to the military for processing. No civil rights, no free underwear, no taxpayer supplied lawyers, just swift uniform military justice. Do this for a month and the deluge will slow to a trickle almost overnight.

MrsGsBoyTommy on July 24, 2014 at 9:37 AM

Yep. Just like in Mississippi.

chris0christies0donut on July 24, 2014 at 9:35 AM

If the GOP establishment has to resort to smear tactics against their own base and recruiting(and paying) Democrat voters in order to secure the nomination for someone like CRISTie or Jeb, they may as well not even field a candidate.

Doughboy on July 24, 2014 at 9:37 AM

I think Jeb should worry less about weighing in on the immigration crisis and more about what he’s weighing these days… /chubs

dpduq on July 24, 2014 at 9:40 AM

If the GOP establishment has to resort to smear tactics against their own base and recruiting(and paying) Democrat voters in order to secure the nomination for someone like CRISTie or Jeb, they may as well not even field a candidate.

Doughboy on July 24, 2014 at 9:37 AM

Let’s wait and see what the base does this November. I’m sure Bush and Christie are watching to see how much lube they’ll need in the future.

chris0christies0donut on July 24, 2014 at 9:40 AM

The voters will decide – pretty simple jake-the-goose on July 24, 2014 at 9:32 AM

If voting mattered, would we be allowed to do it?

Akzed on July 24, 2014 at 9:40 AM

Poor Marco, he was the canary in the coal mine for Jeb and probably ruined his career.

Cindy Munford on July 24, 2014 at 9:42 AM

If the GOP establishment has to resort to smear tactics against their own base and recruiting(and paying) Democrat voters in order to secure the nomination for someone like CRISTie or Jeb, they may as well not even field a candidate.

Doughboy on July 24, 2014 at 9:37 AM

That is much MUCH more true than the US Chamber of Crony Capitalism’s claim that if the GOP doesn’t pass amnesty they needn’t bother fielding a candidate.

Mississippi has ANGERED the base. And why shouldn’t we be when we were called RACISTS by our own party?

If the GOP does the same thing in Tennessee to save Alexander (and they very well may) they needn’t bother fielding ANY candidates anymore…

ConstantineXI on July 24, 2014 at 9:42 AM

Let’s wait and see what the base does this November. I’m sure Bush and Christie are watching to see how much lube they’ll need in the future.

chris0christies0donut on July 24, 2014 at 9:40 AM

I’m already committed to not voting or sending any money to the GOP this election cycle. I even said this to the RNC tool who called me last week, and I told him that Mississippi was the reason why.

Doughboy on July 24, 2014 at 9:43 AM

Poor Marco, he was the canary in the coal mine for Jeb and probably ruined his career.

Cindy Munford on July 24, 2014 at 9:42 AM

I not so sure..It could also be the other way around about the canary??!!??..imho..:)

PS..Good morning..:)

Dire Straits on July 24, 2014 at 9:46 AM

If the GOP establishment has to resort to smear tactics against their own base and recruiting(and paying) Democrat voters in order to secure the nomination for someone like CRISTie or Jeb, they may as well not even field a candidate.

Doughboy on July 24, 2014 at 9:37 AM

Oh, boy. The Romney fan boys are going to start going on about cutting off your nose!

chris0christies0donut on July 24, 2014 at 9:46 AM

It would be an act of love to tell Jeb to sit down and shut up.

Happy Nomad on July 24, 2014 at 9:50 AM

“’He’s running from his reformer standpoint, trying to pander to the party.’”

Interpreted as, He’s running from his real agendas and just trying to deceitfully present himself as a rational man until after he wins. It’s apparently called politics.

Don L on July 24, 2014 at 9:50 AM

The voters will decide – pretty simple

jake-the-goose on July 24, 2014 at 9:32 AM

Thus spake RINOboostra.

M240H on July 24, 2014 at 9:51 AM

Too many cry babies

jake-the-goose on July 24, 2014 at 9:52 AM

Poor Marco, he was the canary in the coal mine for Jeb and probably ruined his career.

Cindy Munford on July 24, 2014 at 9:42 AM

I not so sure..It could also be the other way around about the canary??!!??..imho..:)

PS..Good morning..:)

Dire Straits on July 24, 2014 at 9:46 AM

mmmm … canary …

M240H on July 24, 2014 at 9:52 AM

Oh, boy. The Romney fan boys are going to start going on about cutting off your nose!

chris0christies0donut on July 24, 2014 at 9:46 AM

They can say whatever they want. As far as I’m concerned, there’s no discernible difference between the two parties. Since the GOP took control of the House, spending hasn’t been cut, taxes have gone up, Obamacare is still (sort of) the law of the land, the border is wide open, the economy still sucks, entitlements haven’t been reformed, and we’re closer to passing amnesty now than we were under Pelosi.

What is there to gain from giving the GOP control of the Senate as well? It doesn’t take a genius to figure out that the moment McConnell becomes Majority Leader(assuming he manages to get reelected first), we’ll be told that there’s nothing they can do to stop Obama and that we have to first elect a Republican to the White House in 2016. And BTW, that only a moderate can win.

Doughboy on July 24, 2014 at 9:55 AM

He reminds me of the grandson of some king deposed 100 years ago trying to form a govt in exile.

Akzed on July 24, 2014 at 9:56 AM

Too many cry babies

jake-the-goose on July 24, 2014 at 9:52 AM

We’re not crying, but we aren’t voting for your gelatinous squishes of malleable virtue anymore, either.

Now go fetch another pale of water.

M240H on July 24, 2014 at 9:56 AM

Too many cry babies

jake-the-goose on July 24, 2014 at 9:52 AM

Deep

chris0christies0donut on July 24, 2014 at 9:57 AM

I’m already committed to not voting or sending any money to the GOP this election cycle. I even said this to the RNC tool who called me last week, and I told him that Mississippi was the reason why.

Doughboy on July 24, 2014 at 9:43 AM

I got the same call and gave the same answer. I told them that after the stunt the pulled in Mississippi (and also mentioned how offended I was that they used racism) I would not be donating to the RNC now, or in the foreseeable future, that my campaign donations would go directly to candidates I support.

ConstantineXI on July 24, 2014 at 9:57 AM

In that op-ed, The former Florida governor took a more hardline approach to the crisis on the border, siding with the White House and most of the members of his party who say that the vast majority of those crossing the border will have to be deported.

You kind of get the feeling that Jeb siding with the White House also means he’s siding with the same wink-and-nod “We’re saying the right things now, but we really don’t mean them, and will revert back to form once the heat’s over,” that Team Obama is taking towards the flood of illegals from Central America.

More than any other Republican candidate (even Rubio), Jeb would have the same problem with immigration in 2016 that Mitt Romney had in 2012 while trying to sound credible on his opposition to ObamaCare — Whatever he says on the campaign trail about the issue that matches with the party’s majority of voters, you’re going to get the feeling his heart’s just not in it (which in large part was why the base’s heart wasn’t into turning out for Mitt on Election Day two years ago. A Bush ’16 campaign would no doubt crash into the same phenomenon).

jon1979 on July 24, 2014 at 9:57 AM

There is only one man who can solve the problem: Tom Tancredo. Sheriff Joe can run ICE.

Buddahpundit on July 24, 2014 at 9:57 AM

M240H on July 24, 2014 at 9:56 AM

Read through this and many other threads – “cry babies” is accurate.

Man up and fight for what you believe – leave the bitching to 12 year olds

jake-the-goose on July 24, 2014 at 9:58 AM

He reminds me of the grandson of some king deposed 100 years ago trying to form a govt in exile.

Akzed on July 24, 2014 at 9:56 AM

It may get even worse than that. Obama might be the first ex President to form a “shadow government” in DC and just keep acting like he’s still in power.

You know the MSM will be more than happy to keep going to him and his minions and pretend his Presidency continues…

ConstantineXI on July 24, 2014 at 9:59 AM

O/T but ties into the southern invasion.
” Jihadists in Iraq have ordered that all women between the ages of 11 and 46 undergo female genital mutilation, a UN official said Thursday.”

docflash on July 24, 2014 at 9:59 AM

Q-poll of 2016 prez race in Florida: Jeb, Marco lead GOP field, but Hillary tops them all

Even though President Barack Obama remains stuck in a swamp in Florida, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton dominates the 2016 presidential landscape, sweeping the Democratic field and topping former Gov. Jeb Bush and other possible Republican contenders by margins of 7 to 21 percentage points, according to a Quinnipiac University poll released today.

Gov. Bush gets 21 percent in a Republican presidential primary in Florida, followed by Sen. Marco Rubio with 18 percent, U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas with 10 percent, U.S. Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky with 8 percent, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee with 7 percent and New Jersey Gov. Christopher Christie with 6 percent. No other candidate tops 5 percent and 13 percent of Republicans remain undecided.

Secretary Clinton takes 67 percent of Democratic presidential primary voters, compared to 64 percent May 1, followed by Vice President Joseph Biden and U.S. Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts with 8 percent each. Another 11 percent are undecided.

“Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton may be taking some criticism recently in the news media and among some liberal Democratic precincts, but nothing has changed among average voters in Florida where she remains queen of the political prom,” said Peter A. Brown, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Poll.

“Two-thirds of Democrats say she is their candidate for 2016 and none of the others even makes it into double digits. Sunshine Staters are on top when Florida Republicans are asked their top 2016 choice, but former Gov. Jeb Bush slips a little and U.S. Sen. Marco Rubio just about caught up with him.”

Florida voters back Clinton over Bush 49 – 42 percent in the 2016 White House race.

The Democrat tops other Republicans by wider margins: 53 – 39 percent over Rubio; 53 – 37 percent over Paul; 54 – 33 percent over Christie; 51 – 38 percent over U.S. Rep. Paul Ryan of Wisconsin.

Independent voters back Clinton over Bush by a narrow 45 – 41 percent. Against other Republicans, her lead among independent voters is 16 to 20 percentage points.Clinton’s lead among women runs from 56 – 36 percent over Bush to 61 – 28 percent over Christie.

Florida voters give Clinton a 58 – 38 percent favorability rating, compared to 48 – 37 percent for Bush, 43 – 35 percent for Rubio, 32 – 28 percent for Paul, 35 – 36 percent for Christie and 33 – 30 percent for Ryan.

“Secretary Clinton leads the Republicans against whom she is matched by double digits with the exception of former Gov. Bush who trails her by 7 points,” Brown said. “Inside the Beltway they may be talking about Mrs. Clinton’s potential weaknesses should she run in 2016. But at this point in Florida, the nation’s largest presidential swing state, her assets overwhelm any vulnerabilities.”

Florida voters give President Obama a negative 44 – 52 percent job approval rating, compared to a negative 46 – 50 percent May 1. Negative ratings are 7 – 92 percent among Republicans and 40 – 54 percent among independent voters, while Democrats approve 84 – 13 percent. Men give a negative 38 – 59 percent rating, compared to women’s slightly positive 49 – 46 percent.

Voters approve 49 – 37 percent of the job Rubio is doing and give U.S. Sen. Bill Nelson a 45 – 32 percent score.

From July 17 – 21, Quinnipiac University surveyed 1,251 registered voters with a margin of error of +/- 2.8 percentage points. The survey includes 451 Republicans and 457 Democrats, each with a margin of error of +/- 4.6 percentage points.

http://www.saintpetersblog.com/archives/153664

Ned Pepper on July 24, 2014 at 9:59 AM

This warm, fuzzy feel-good piece isn’t working.

TimBuk3 on July 24, 2014 at 10:04 AM

Man up and fight for what you believe – leave the bitching to 12 year olds

jake-the-goose on July 24, 2014 at 9:58 AM

That actually appears to be what’s happening. Individuals are saying, “Enough of this. It doesn’t align with what I believe. I’m putting my time and money in other areas.”

chris0christies0donut on July 24, 2014 at 10:04 AM

Noah, it’s not a crisis.
It’s a crime.

Galtian on July 24, 2014 at 10:04 AM

Ned Pepper on July 24, 2014 at 9:59 AM

Wow, I’m just crushed. Totally dejected. Like totes totally.

And if Fresnel Lens Fanny doesn’t stroke out before November, 2016, you’re golden.

Now, go pull some tubes and peep you some Springer, dude.

M240H on July 24, 2014 at 10:05 AM

The voters will decide – pretty simple

jake-the-goose on July 24, 2014 at 9:32 AM

Voters=pretty simple=unbelievably stupid.

I repeat what I’ve said before. I’ve been involved in every campaign since Eisenhower ran in ’52, and I’ve only voted FOR a candidate twice. That was Ronald Reagan. Other than him, I’ve voted for the lesser of two evils. And as someone pointed out, the lesser of two evils is still evil.

oldleprechaun on July 24, 2014 at 10:07 AM

They fired the judge who was hearing their cases swiftly and sending them home. Then they got a new guy who would give them more time to disappear before their hearings and then when 18 out of 20 didn’t appear, he would give them another 11 days to show up again, because they can’t read Spanish let alone English. They must have gotten confused, so cut them some slack.

ezspirit on July 24, 2014 at 10:08 AM

Dire Straits on July 24, 2014 at 9:46 AM

Maybe, but based on the comments here, he’s a cooked goose. (Continuing on with the Avialae metaphors) He needs to go be governor of Florida for a term or two and then run.

Cindy Munford on July 24, 2014 at 10:09 AM

In that op-ed, The former Florida governor took a more hardline approach to the crisis on the border, siding with the White House and most of the members of his party who say that the vast majority of those crossing the border will have to be deported.will be allowed to stay…

Imagine that – Noah being blind to all the actions of the White House and the Republic Rats…

And you call yourself a reporter?

deadite on July 24, 2014 at 10:10 AM

Ned Plagiarist on July 24, 2014 at 9:59 AM

Hillary won’t be the nominee. Book it.

fortcoins on July 24, 2014 at 10:11 AM

ezspirit on July 24, 2014 at 10:08 AM

I read that to. And did you see when they did it? They did it before anyone caught on the the wave that was coming.

Cindy Munford on July 24, 2014 at 10:11 AM

The voters will decide – pretty simple

jake-the-goose on July 24, 2014 at 9:32 AM

Where were you in 2012 when the Dog Eater got 99% of the vote in voting districts in Philadelphia, Palm Beach, Fla had a 141% voter turnout?

You are very naive, Goose. And an amnesty supporting RINO.

“We an do better than this”, to quote a famous HotAir poster from yesterday.

bimmcorp on July 24, 2014 at 10:11 AM

Voters=pretty simple=unbelievably stupid.

oldleprechaun on July 24, 2014 at 10:07 AM

Like I said – the ‘voters’ – (not voter) decided.

My voting record is shorter than yours – and I think that with the possible expection of my vote for Perot (I know I know) – I suspect you and I voted the same each time – and I suspect we held our nose at the same time.

So it goes.

Great, and appealing conservative candidates are very very rare.

jake-the-goose on July 24, 2014 at 10:12 AM

Imagine that – Noah being blind to all the actions of the White House and the Republic Rats…

And you call yourself a reporter?

deadite on July 24, 2014 at 10:10 AM

I’m pretty sure most of them are saying they must be deported.

chris0christies0donut on July 24, 2014 at 10:12 AM

You are very naive, Goose. And an amnesty supporting RINO.

bimmcorp on July 24, 2014 at 10:11 AM

Yawn !!! – I sometimes wonder about he intelligence of our members.

jake-the-goose on July 24, 2014 at 10:13 AM

Read through this and many other threads – “cry babies” is accurate.

Man up and fight for what you believe – leave the bitching to 12 year olds

jake-the-goose on July 24, 2014 at 9:58 AM

Yep, exactly. It’s all the same:

The GOP broke the law!
The IRS broke the law!
The ATF broke the law!

Buncha crybabies, all of them. Suck it up, buttercups. Don’t like that they broke the law? Deal with it.

makattak on July 24, 2014 at 10:13 AM

jake-the-goose on July 24, 2014 at 9:52 AM

Darlin, the takers are out numbering the producers. Think about who runs the schools and what the goals are. We need winners who want our national experiment to flourish, not participants satisfied with whatever they can get.

Cindy Munford on July 24, 2014 at 10:14 AM

Hmm… apparently something in my previous comment triggered moderation.

Test: IRS

makattak on July 24, 2014 at 10:14 AM

Man up and fight for what you believe – leave the bitching to 12 year olds

jake-the-goose on July 24, 2014 at 9:58 AM

Says the whining RINO who was all butt hurt over me dissecting the vapid, drunken illinidiva yesterday.

I happen to have 16 geese in my back yard, Jake, and every one of them has more sense and courage than you, pal. And they do NOT support amnesty either. They defend my borders with a vengeance.

bimmcorp on July 24, 2014 at 10:14 AM

Ok, next possibility.

Test: ATF

makattak on July 24, 2014 at 10:15 AM

Yawn !!! – I sometimes wonder about he intelligence of our members.

jake-the-goose on July 24, 2014 at 10:13 AM

Feel free to outline Jeb’s brilliance? Or will the voters decide that?

Come on! Hit us with your best cliche :D

chris0christies0donut on July 24, 2014 at 10:16 AM

…siding with the White House…

What have you been smoking, Noah? Obama has no intention of deporting anyone. Even if he says he does, he’s lying the same way he has lied about everything else he “says” he’s gong to do – employment, the economy, etc, etc, etc. Only a fool believes ANYTHING Odumbass says. Are you a fool, Noah?

earlgrey on July 24, 2014 at 10:17 AM

Yawn !!! – I sometimes wonder about he intelligence of our members.

jake-the-goose on July 24, 2014 at 10:13 AM

He intelligence is fine, loser.

bimmcorp on July 24, 2014 at 10:19 AM

M240H on July 24, 2014 at 9:56 AM

Read through this and many other threads – “cry babies” is accurate.

Man up and fight for what you believe – leave the bitching to 12 year olds

jake-the-goose on July 24, 2014 at 9:58 AM

On the other side of the door to my left are fifteen Blackhawks. I can taste every dollar I ever earned. How ’bout you?

And demanding that candidates display the same character I expect out of a PV2 isn’t bitching, it’s making the same demand of them that you just made of me.

M240H on July 24, 2014 at 10:19 AM

doofus-the-goose does NOT approve of snark directed at Jebbie. doofus-the-goose questions the intelligence of any who would deny the masterful nuance of an amnesty-loving candidate.

But, of course, doofus-the-goose does NOT support amnesty. He said so himself.

Jedditelol on July 24, 2014 at 10:20 AM

Who put Mitch McConnell’s picture up?

Judge_Dredd on July 24, 2014 at 10:20 AM

O/T but ties into the southern invasion. ” Jihadists in Iraq have ordered that all women between the ages of 11 and 46 undergo female genital mutilation, a UN official said Thursday.” docflash on July 24, 2014 at 9:59 AM

When will the world have had enough?!

Please please please please please someone ask 0b00ba about this ASAP! Whatever he says will be wrong!

Akzed on July 24, 2014 at 10:22 AM

Next, we must aggressively remove the incentives that encourage people to break immigration laws.

OK, so STFU and stop being a giant magnet by just TALKING about amnesty!

fred5678 on July 24, 2014 at 10:22 AM

I’m already committed to not voting or sending any money to the GOP this election cycle. I even said this to the RNC tool who called me last week, and I told him that Mississippi was the reason why.
Doughboy on July 24, 2014 at 9:43 AM
I got the same call and gave the same answer. I told them that after the stunt the pulled in Mississippi (and also mentioned how offended I was that they used racism) I would not be donating to the RNC now, or in the foreseeable future, that my campaign donations would go directly to candidates I support.
ConstantineXI on July 24, 2014 at 9:57 AM

Same here, yesterday morning.

hollygolightly on July 24, 2014 at 10:23 AM

They can say whatever they want. As far as I’m concerned, there’s no discernible difference between the two parties. Since the GOP took control of the House, spending hasn’t been cut, taxes have gone up, Obamacare is still (sort of) the law of the land, the border is wide open, the economy still sucks, entitlements haven’t been reformed, and we’re closer to passing amnesty now than we were under Pelosi.

What is there to gain from giving the GOP control of the Senate as well? It doesn’t take a genius to figure out that the moment McConnell becomes Majority Leader(assuming he manages to get reelected first), we’ll be told that there’s nothing they can do to stop Obama and that we have to first elect a Republican to the White House in 2016. And BTW, that only a moderate can win.

Doughboy on July 24, 2014 at 9:55 AM

While I agree with about 99% of this, the “difference” is, Pelosi is not any longer running amok in the House, meaning how much worse we all could have suffered without the 2010 Shellacking. Take heart Doughboy, there’s still a groundswell of grass-roots reformers—yes, Tea Party Conservatives—that will have a voice in all of these trying times, and the establishment Republicans, (whether they like it or not), will have to reconcile with “this other side” or they’re not going to win any elections. Eric Cantor got this rude message loud and clear, and, (I believe), the establishment Republicans can not ignore his demise/dismissal.

Rovin on July 24, 2014 at 10:23 AM

I happen to have 16 geese in my back yard, Jake, and every one of them has more sense and courage than you, pal. And they do NOT support amnesty either. They defend my borders with a vengeance.

bimmcorp on July 24, 2014 at 10:14 AM

Once as a little boy I was antagonizing a goose behind a picket fence. He got wise and poked his head through and stole the maple candy I was eating. Right out of my hand! I started squalling. Stupid poetic justice!

Judge_Dredd on July 24, 2014 at 10:23 AM

Darlin, the takers are out numbering the producers. Think about who runs the schools and what the goals are. We need winners who want our national experiment to flourish, not participants satisfied with whatever they can get.

Cindy Munford on July 24, 2014 at 10:14 AM

No argument

My inarticulate point is this – (not aiming at you) – stop griping and start working for the causes you believe in. Start engaging.

We need to stop worrying about what others are doing – most of which has no impact of our own lives and families. Instead worry about what is said and done at our own dinner table.

The GOP is mired (somewhat understandably) is a bitch fest.

We suffer from a lack of leadership – so we have been reduced to a food fight attitude.

Big problems like immigration are not simple – so we need to quit talking in sound bites and offer real solutions to many of the intrigue problems inside immigration.

If someone offers ideas – talk about the ideas – and stop the knee jerk rejection of those ideas. Ideas warrant discussion.

Immigration Reform – is not limited to one word – that being (Amnesty).

I don’t pretend to offer simply solutions to massively complicated problems.

We are supposed to be the party of intellect -

jake-the-goose on July 24, 2014 at 10:23 AM

And demanding that candidates display the same character I expect out of a PV2 isn’t bitching, it’s making the same demand of them that you just made of me.

M240H on July 24, 2014 at 10:19 AM

Ok – that’s well said – and I accept that.

jake-the-goose on July 24, 2014 at 10:24 AM

OT: The commiecrats war on womyn continues:

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/07/24/video-woman-in-labor-not-allowed-to-cross-street-to-hospital-over-obamas-impending-motorcade/

earlgrey on July 24, 2014 at 10:26 AM

Might have been a different story had she been walking to Planned Parenthood.

chris0christies0donut on July 24, 2014 at 10:27 AM

Eric Cantor got this rude message loud and clear, and, (I believe), the establishment Republicans can not ignore his demise/dismissal.

Rovin on July 24, 2014 at 10:23 AM

They aren’t ignoring the threat, rather they have taken to rallying black democrats to the side of the Establishment by spending millions of dollars in advertising to paint conservatives as racists.

ConstantineXI on July 24, 2014 at 10:28 AM

Judge_Dredd on July 24, 2014 at 10:23 AM

You do not want to mess with a hungry, broody, angry or gosling protecting goose. Nossiree. They got teeth, and their wings can flog you to the point of breaking bones…

Mine were hand raised and hatched on my little farm. We’re buddies…

bimmcorp on July 24, 2014 at 10:28 AM

I’m pretty sure most of them are saying they must be deported.

chris0christies0donut on July 24, 2014 at 10:12 AM

Ahh, but I said actions. As they say, actions speak louder than words.

Unless you are a former liberal reporter (emphasis on reporter).

But I will admit that is what they say. Once again – Noah believes them?

deadite on July 24, 2014 at 10:28 AM

Jeb is for amnesty. He is in no way courageous and you can bet he would change his tune the minute he was in power.

aniptofar on July 24, 2014 at 10:28 AM

OT: The commiecrats war on womyn continues:

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/07/24/video-woman-in-labor-not-allowed-to-cross-street-to-hospital-over-obamas-impending-motorcade/

earlgrey on July 24, 2014 at 10:26 AM

Saw that on Twitchy.

NOTHING gets in the way of the god-king and SOMETIMES President getting to a star studded fundraiser party.

Besides, she was being “punished” with a baby.

ConstantineXI on July 24, 2014 at 10:30 AM

We are supposed to be the party of intellect -

jake-the-goose on July 24, 2014 at 10:23 AM

Oh, the irony…it burns…

bimmcorp on July 24, 2014 at 10:30 AM

Running for Prez in 3…2…1…

vnvet on July 24, 2014 at 10:31 AM

Jeb is for amnesty. He is in no way courageous and you can bet he would change his tune the minute he was in power.

aniptofar on July 24, 2014 at 10:28 AM

The whole Bush clan is for open borders.

Remember, W tried to cram it through back in 2006 and got stopped.

ConstantineXI on July 24, 2014 at 10:31 AM

We will NOT be supporting any RINO AMNESTY SHILLS in any more upcoming elections. Those days are over and we will NOT be listening to any more LIES from the likes of people like ROTHMAN, BUSH, MCCAIN, GRAHAM, GUTIERREZ, SOLIS, MUNOZ, etc….

Realdemocrat1 on July 24, 2014 at 10:39 AM

jake-the-goose on July 24, 2014 at 10:23 AM

Well the party of intellect – better start giving us some candidates of intellect to support. Right now most of what we have is D.C. derelicts who think it’s their turn to have their pockets lined.

Cindy Munford on July 24, 2014 at 10:41 AM

I will be supporting people who show compassion on American taxpayers, American children, and American families by deporting ALL 30 MILLION Illegal Aliens squatting here tearing down our Standard-of-Living…..

Realdemocrat1 on July 24, 2014 at 10:41 AM

It is not a humanitarian crisis,it is an invasion!Throw them back across the fence,over and over again!

redware on July 24, 2014 at 10:42 AM

Cindy Munford on July 24, 2014 at 10:09 AM

I would not go off of the commenters at HA..Just remember to trust but verify..:):)

Dire Straits on July 24, 2014 at 10:43 AM

Big problems like immigration are not simple – so we need to quit talking in sound bites and offer real solutions to many of the intrigue problems inside immigration.

If someone offers ideas – talk about the ideas – and stop the knee jerk rejection of those ideas. Ideas warrant discussion.

Immigration Reform – is not limited to one word – that being (Amnesty).

I don’t pretend to offer simply solutions to massively complicated problems.

Like a good little liberal/RINO…First off, the immigration laws are NOT broken. They have simply not been enforced ever since Reagan pushed through amnesty in the 80s. I was there when that went down.

Part of the amnesty of the 80s was that the borders were to have been secured, and the democrats reneged on the bargain. They are doing so again, with the assistance of people like you and Jeb Bush.

Immigration reform should not even be considered unless and until the border is secured 100%, and existing law is enforced 100%.

Until then, you and your GOP pals can join in with your liberal buddies and scream all you want. You will never get conservative Americans, especially those of us in the border states to support your idiocy.

Sounds pretty simple to me, actually.

bimmcorp on July 24, 2014 at 10:46 AM

None of the Bush family has credibility on stopping illegal immigration. I won’t be voting for him.

CW20 on July 24, 2014 at 10:48 AM

Cindy Munford on July 24, 2014 at 10:09 AM

Please do not go with the advice of some of the folks commenting on this at HA..Just always remember to trust but verify..:):)

Dire Straits on July 24, 2014 at 10:43 AM

Refitted for clarification..Sorry..:)

Dire Straits on July 24, 2014 at 10:48 AM

siding with the White House and most of the members of his party who say that the vast majority of those crossing the border will have to be deported.

really Noah? then one of the blocked paragraphs mentions less than 2% are deported. I guess we aren’t members of the party.

DanMan on July 24, 2014 at 10:52 AM

Conservatives need to coalesce early, a small pack gets whittled by the E-stabs, and the conservative vote is split against their “one”. Let’s be smart. I have no favorite to push, but let’s decide early, and beat them down for a change.

Cliff by the Ford on July 24, 2014 at 10:57 AM

If there is one benefit of the “border crisis” obama’s invasion, it’s that it has increased the toxicity of AMNESTY / OPEN BORDERS advocates like Rand Paul, Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio, Paul Ryan, et al, and highlighted just how out of touch they are with the vast majority of Americans.

Pork-Chop on July 24, 2014 at 11:03 AM

I TRUST RINOS/LIBERALS will push for AMNESTY every chance they get.

I VERIFIED RINOS/LIBERALS have pushed for AMNESTY every chance they had.

Path to Citizenship = AMNESTY for those here already…..

Realdemocrat1 on July 24, 2014 at 11:09 AM

Shut up. Go away. Get a real job, if you must do something I recommend programming, perhaps car sales.

bour3 on July 24, 2014 at 11:13 AM

Great, and appealing conservative candidates are very very rare.

jake-the-goose on July 24, 2014 at 10:12 AM

Not really. It’s just that when they appear, you in the Squish Wing make sure you do everything you can to make them as unattractive as possible. Conservatives in the GOP have to contend with the Dems AND the Squish Wing of their own party.

ddrintn on July 24, 2014 at 11:17 AM

Great idea. Put lots of geese and turkeys on the border. Turkeys are even meaner.

crankyoldlady on July 24, 2014 at 11:22 AM

I’ve read up to this point:

Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, long a vocal Republican proponent of reforming the nation’s immigration system,

What John Ellis Bush wants to do is nothing close to reform. He wants to destroy the current immigration laws while rewarding the criminals that broke them. Reform would be to change the laws to help deport these kids faster. Pro-criminals like Jeb Bush want none of that.

joekenha on July 24, 2014 at 11:25 AM

siding with the White House and most of the members of his party who say that the vast majority of those crossing the border will have to be deported.

Honestly, why even write that sentence? What’s the point? Even the biggest RINO immigration squish knows that the White House is lying about deportations. So this is either click bait, a big FU to conservatives who are HotAirs’s bread and butter, or Noah is hoping to joing Erick Erickson as a CNN talking head. Any way, it stinks.

The border crisis was manufactured to get the DREAM Act passed. When that backfired, and Cantor was fired, the powers that be had to scramble to save the situation. Hence “border security”. All the usual suspects are bowing and scraping to the border security god now, which should set off an alarm. The White House will do the tough talking on the Left, because Obama is a lame duck and can take the heat. Congress will double down on open borders because they need the base to survive the mid-terms. The Republicans and the White House will cooperate on some showy but essentially meaningless display of toughness, at which point John McCain, Paul Ryan, and the rest of the amnesty caucus will pronounce the border secure, so that we can move on to more “comprehensive reform”. I mean, the script writes itself.

Of course, Noah Rothman, pen in hand, is helping edit the text.

Joseph K on July 24, 2014 at 11:27 AM

Even Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL), a co-author of the Senate’s immigration reform bill, conceded that the border crisis has made reform a toxic notion. In an interview with NPR, Rubio said that border security must come first or there will be no reform measure passed for perhaps another decade.

Wrong. It isn’t that most people are opposed to “immigration reform” nor is it that most people, especially those who have contact with immigrants and know about the absurdity of the system, don’t see a massive need for a total reform to the immigration system.

The problem is that the left has usurped the language again just like they did with firearms. The left says they want “gun safety” and “reasonable gun laws” but when we hear that, we all have learned they mean national registry, noxious background check conditions, ownership restriction based on cosmetic features, etc. And now we know that when they say “immigration reform” they don’t mean elimination of Ted Kennedy’s 1960s immigration reform creating anchor babies and they don’t mean more border security and they certainly don’t mean screening of immigrants to only allow skilled workers who are exceptionally employable and committed to integrating into American society, but rather they mean amnesty for illegals and nearly open borders for unskilled laborers who have only economic reasons for coming here but have absolutely zero intention of actually fully integrating.

The left uses this hijacking of language to paint the right of center with a broad, immigrant-hater brush. But it is a massive disservice to the nation as this twisting of the language prevents discussion of rather critical matters.

deepdiver on July 24, 2014 at 11:32 AM

“…siding with the White House … who say that the vast majority of those crossing the border will have to be deported…”

Talk, in this White House, is cheap.
Actions speak louder than words, and in this case, those actions are silent.

Another Drew on July 24, 2014 at 11:33 AM

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