Time: The West is losing Cold War II

posted at 12:01 pm on July 24, 2014 by Ed Morrissey

This isn’t just a think piece buried in the back of the magazine, either, but a full-fledged cover story from Time’s correspondent in Ukraine. Simon Shuster paints Vladimir Putin as a master manipulator, controlling events in order to make himself and Russia indispensable for addressing crises that Putin largely orchestrates. Note the color of the background in next week’s paper issue:

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That’s hardly subtle, either in its attitude toward Putin (which is explicit) or to the West and the Obama administration, which is implicit in the headline. If the West is “losing Putin’s dangerous game,” then that reflects on the leader of the Free World, either directly or indirectly. And in the article, Shuster gets very direct about Barack Obama’s fecklessness in Ukraine and regarding Russia:

As the days passed and the stench rose, the coldly calculating Russian President got his answer: apparently not. While state-controlled media at home buried Russia’s role in the disaster under an avalanche of anti-Western propaganda, leaders in Europe and the U.S. found themselves stymied once again by Putin’s brazenness. Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte, whose nation lost 193 citizens in the attack (one of them a U.S.-passport holder) called pitifully on Putin to do “what is expected of him” in helping recover the bodies. U.S. President Barack Obama struck a similar tone on July 21 after the victims’ remains had been packed into refrigerated train cars out of reach of foreign investigators: “Given its direct influence over the separatists, Russia and President Putin in particular has direct responsibility to compel them to cooperate with the investigation. That is the least that they can do.”

That was the crisis in a nutshell: the least Putin could do was the most Obama could ask for. The American President announced no deadlines, drew no red lines and made no threats. Even as U.S. intelligence sources asserted with growing confidence that Russian weapons and Russian allies were behind the missile attack, U.S. diplomats were met with roadblocks as they tried to rally Europe to stiffen sanctions against Putin. Obama and Rutte spoke as leaders without leverage, for their voters aren’t interested in military conflict with Russia or its puppets. A generation of Westerners has grown up in the happy belief that the Cold War ended long ago and peace is Europe’s fated future. They are slow to rally to the chore of once again containing Russia’s ambitions.

The US has not been able to call together a united front with Europe, a situation that Putin has exploited. And that situation has not improved after the MH17 shootdown:

What happens in the aftermath of the MH 17 disaster will test Putin’s assessment of declining American power. The coming days will determine whether the U.S. and Europe can form a united front against a country that virtually the entire world believes handed a loaded weapon to an unregulated militia. “We can’t do this unilaterally,” says a senior official in the Obama Administration. “We’ve got to work with the Europeans on a strategy to help contain Russia.”

So far there’s not much unity on show. Four days after the downing of the airliner, when the bodies of the victims were still stuck in rebel territory, French President François Hollande said France would go ahead with the sale of at least one warship to Russia, the helicopter carrier Mistral, against the direct objections of the U.S. and U.K. “The symbolism is terrible,” the Administration official tells Time on condition of anonymity.

Shuster suggests that a quick resolution of MH17 that firmly establishes responsibility on Russian-backed Ukrainian rebels or Russia itself might galvanize Europe into unity on American terms. That’s debatable, though, since this admission has already been made on the ground in eastern Ukraine:

A Ukrainian militiaman who says he witnessed the downing of Malaysia Flight MH17 gave a vivid interview to Lorenzo Cremonesi of the Italian newspaper Corriere della Sera.

“We shot down a Kiev plane, our superiors told us,” said the pro-Russian rebel, who lived worked locally as a miner before the uprising in eastern Ukraine. “We thought we were looking for bailed-out Ukrainian pilots but instead we found dead civilians … All those poor people with baggage that certainly wasn’t military.” …

The fighter, from the Oplot (stronghold) combat unit, told Cremonesi that he and his colleagues saw “a huge explosion in the sky” and were prepared to fight survivors from “one of the Kiev Fascists’ planes” that they were told had been shot down.

“My men and I were looking for parachutes on the ground and in the trees,” the militiaman said. “All of a sudden, I saw scraps of material in a clearing. Underneath I found the body of a little girl, [...] It was awful. That was when I realized it was a civilian plane. Not a military one. And all these dead people were civilians. A heap of burst suitcases confirmed it.”

Will that deter Putin? Not likely, unless Europe and the US unite in tough economic consequences for Putin’s ambitions, and start undermining the basis of his power — support from Russian industrial barons who got rich off of his power. Until then, Cold War II will continue in the same ugly direction as it has for the last several years, even if the current leadership in the West hasn’t recognized it until now.

Glenn “Instapundit” Reynolds underscores the self-delusion of those last several years:

Maybe this administration has finally learned what “geopolitical threat” means.


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“The way to win is not to play the game.”

-Obama from the 9th hole.

portlandon on July 24, 2014 at 12:03 PM

LilliPutin is the luckiest bastard around.

He lives in the age of obama.

Schadenfreude on July 24, 2014 at 12:03 PM

Leading from behind means sniffing Putin’s azz.

Schadenfreude on July 24, 2014 at 12:04 PM

The election of Obama was no different then waving a white flag…..oh that sounds so racist…..

redguy on July 24, 2014 at 12:04 PM

SPEECH! SPEECH! SPEECH!

rogerb on July 24, 2014 at 12:04 PM

Uh oh – another door for Romney to step through?

jake-the-goose on July 24, 2014 at 12:04 PM

Yesterday the US absolved Russia from the MH plane fiasco.

Schadenfreude on July 24, 2014 at 12:04 PM

“The way to win is not to play the game.”

portlandon on July 24, 2014 at 12:03 PM

I thought Joshua said that?

jake-the-goose on July 24, 2014 at 12:05 PM

Most Americans are here.

obama is here
.

Schadenfreude on July 24, 2014 at 12:05 PM

The West can’d lose cold war II because the West isn’t fighting cold war II. We’re still mired in the Arab spring.

Immolate on July 24, 2014 at 12:07 PM

One can already feel the downing of the plane being forgotten as the world turns its hate on Israel.

rob verdi on July 24, 2014 at 12:08 PM

Sergey Viktorovich Lavrov to Kerry/Talking Horse

“You open your big mouth and Iran and us will eliminate the US dollar for oil. Do you understand us?”

“Da, da, my friend, Da”

End of story

Schadenfreude on July 24, 2014 at 12:09 PM

All the gains from the cold war of the 80′s by Reagan/Thatcher/Pope John Paul II are lost. Not in battle, but through incompetence & stupidity.

It has to be on purpose, because nobody, NOBODY can lose so much ground so quickly by accident. It’s just mind numbing.

I’ve had many family members serve in the Army/Navy/Marines during the Reagan/Bush I & Bush II eras. Talking to them, they are so upset by this. Everything to served for, winning the cold war is so easily given away by the arrogant Obama.

portlandon on July 24, 2014 at 12:09 PM

I thought Joshua said that?

jake-the-goose on July 24, 2014 at 12:05 PM

And they were both wrong.

WryTrvllr on July 24, 2014 at 12:09 PM

Obama hates America.

Obama loves Golf.

Tells you all you need to know.

Meople on July 24, 2014 at 12:09 PM

Remember last spring when John Kerry laughed at Putin for thinking the Cold war was still in existence? I have liberal friends who though that was really funny too.

esr1951 on July 24, 2014 at 12:09 PM

I thought Joshua said that?

jake-the-goose on July 24, 2014 at 12:05 PM

W.O.P.R./Joshua & Obama are like 7 year olds who have to learn things the hard way.

portlandon on July 24, 2014 at 12:11 PM

Isn’t this what TIME wanted when they were pushing an unqualified radical to be President?

Flange on July 24, 2014 at 12:11 PM

The West is dead broke.

The euroweenies and obama are eunuchs because they have to be.

Putin lives in a glorious age, due to his stupid ‘adversaries’.

O’Reilly, the fool “I see no evidence that obama destroys the US; that’s conservative fodder”.

Fool:

1. ISIS

2. Open Southern border.

All else is chickenshit.

Schadenfreude on July 24, 2014 at 12:11 PM

This administration will never admit to their failures

It’ll be blamed on someone else soon enough

cmsinaz on July 24, 2014 at 12:11 PM

Iraq has begged obama to bomb ISIS, in their diapers, in Syria.

Oaf, who’s chief, went golfing and fundraising.

Schadenfreude on July 24, 2014 at 12:12 PM

“Here’s my bottom line: America must always lead on the world stage. If we don’t, no one else will,” Obama said.

One of the many dumb things uttered by Bambi. Russia has no problem moving into the power vacuum created by our faculty lounge leader.

PackerBronco on July 24, 2014 at 12:13 PM

Will that deter Putin? Not likely, unless Europe and the US unite in tough economic consequences for Putin’s ambitions, and start undermining the basis of his power — support from Russian industrial barons who got rich off of his power.

Sergey Viktorovich Lavrov to Kerry/Talking Horse

“You open your big mouth and Iran and us will eliminate the US dollar for oil. Do you understand us?”

“Da, da, my friend, Da”

End of story

Schadenfreude on July 24, 2014 at 12:15 PM

Putin invented the art of disinformation, at the KGB.

obama perfected it.

However, Putin is a very shrewd dude.

Schadenfreude on July 24, 2014 at 12:16 PM

Nothing turns Putin on more than playing obama.

Schadenfreude on July 24, 2014 at 12:17 PM

Remember last spring when John Kerry laughed at Putin for thinking the Cold war was still in existence? I have liberal friends who though that was really funny too.

And in 2012 when Obama laughed off Romney about it during the debate?

ExZek on July 24, 2014 at 12:17 PM

I wake up in the morning to read the news, and it’s like reading the headlined out of 1939.

Jewish businesses being ransacked/destroyed in Europe
“Kill the Jews” being chanted in the streets
Economy in the toilet
Unemployment high
inflation
US President ignoring allies

Is there a continent where there isn’t a major conflict going on right now?

The World is on fire, and Obama is aloof, and fundraising/playing golf.

portlandon on July 24, 2014 at 12:17 PM

Never tire of this.

And, this

Schadenfreude on July 24, 2014 at 12:18 PM

‘Governor, the 80s are calling, they want their foreign policy back.’

- President Barack Obama, 2012

Hmmmm, more like…

The 2010s are calling, they want the 1980s foreign policy back!

Resist We Much on July 24, 2014 at 12:20 PM

Is there a continent where there isn’t a major conflict going on right now?

The World is on fire, and Obama is aloof, and fundraising/playing golf.

portlandon on July 24, 2014 at 12:17 PM

Anyone, name one foreign or domestic success story under obama.

Pls. don’t name the Black Panthers and Planned Parenthood.

Schadenfreude on July 24, 2014 at 12:20 PM

Sophie, for you, 30 incredible pics.

Schadenfreude on July 24, 2014 at 12:21 PM

Obama told us that he wanted to undo all of Reagan’s accomplishments.

Economy…check.
Cold war…check.
America’s morale…check.
America’s stature in the world…check.

jukin3 on July 24, 2014 at 12:22 PM

Sophie, for you, 30 incredible pics.

Schadenfreude on July 24, 2014 at 12:21 PM

Awesome. Thanks!

Resist We Much on July 24, 2014 at 12:23 PM

jukin3 on July 24, 2014 at 12:22 PM

Socialism..check
Dead broke…check
Moochers from within and without…check
Looters from the gov’t…check
Propaganda media…check (Yes, it lived then too, but not like this)
RINOs as stupid, if not more so than the leftist thugs…check

Schadenfreude on July 24, 2014 at 12:24 PM

TIME helped push this incompetent, cowardly, lying fraud on the nation. TIME is part of the problem.

otlset on July 24, 2014 at 12:26 PM

Well, that’s the lefts plan.

gwelf on July 24, 2014 at 12:27 PM

Mediocre all around

Schadenfreude on July 24, 2014 at 12:28 PM

Malaise exponentially

philw1776 on July 24, 2014 at 12:28 PM

The orgasmic world, shouting “obama, obama, obama” in 2008, deserve him, in full.

Pity a land which voted for him twice, but schadenfreude, pure!!!

Such fruckers deserve no less. Too bad we got him too.

Schadenfreude on July 24, 2014 at 12:29 PM

Obama’s regime is the epitome of incompetency . . . what else should we expect?

rplat on July 24, 2014 at 12:31 PM

Don’t kid yourself blaming Obama. What is the Republican proposal?… Exactly.

I love this video of Romney arguing with Obama. This is why I have always thought and continue to think that Romney was by far the best Republican candidate for President since Reagan. Do “True Conservatives” think the same given all this evidence? I bet they are still “not excited” or whatever is the current way for dumb people to express their dumbness.

The House can present their view of the situation in the form of legislative proposals. Will they do it? I don’t hold my breath.

PBH on July 24, 2014 at 12:32 PM

The US needs to start exporting cheap LNG to Europe to break their dependence of Russian gas.

JoeHanson on July 24, 2014 at 12:33 PM

For history, I want to capture this

HOLLYWOOD HORROR: OBAMA MOTORCADE TRAPS PREGNANT WOMAN IN LABOR

– Drudge

Schadenfreude on July 24, 2014 at 12:35 PM

Time’s piece is a testament to Obama’s weakness.

aquaviva on July 24, 2014 at 12:36 PM

The US needs to start exporting cheap LNG to Europe to break their dependence of Russian gas.

JoeHanson on July 24, 2014 at 12:33 PM

That is exactly how we could win this war but obaME! won’t allow it. I hate him and his cronies.

VegasRick on July 24, 2014 at 12:37 PM

It doesn’t matter. The new “cold war” was started by western elites to feed their crony machine, first in Libya and Syria, and when the American people caught on to what was happening in Syria, (progressives on the left and right helping Jihadis), they shifted focus to a Ukraine. And isn’t it interesting that just a week or two before the EUSSR and USSA escalated in Ukraine there was an opinion piece in, I think, a neocon magazine about how useful a new cold war would be. I guess they got/manufactured what they wanted, but the American people aren’t behind it.

FloatingRock on July 24, 2014 at 12:37 PM

The Cold War was more of an ideological struggle or fight than a military one. Thus the name: cold war and not hot.

Putin’s ideology is purely Russian, borne out of Russian paranoia, sense of inferiority and dislike of outsiders, especially the West. Nationalism, xenophobia, nativism but of a distinctly Russian nature.

No one is worried about Russian influence in Africa, for example. Or Asia. or Latin America.

It’s not a cold war but it is something to be worried about. I think more Putins will be popping up over the years.

SteveMG on July 24, 2014 at 12:44 PM

…and Democrats keep telling themselves that their brand is okay, it’s the GOP that’s in disarray.

Tater Salad on July 24, 2014 at 12:45 PM

But it is a win for the hate America commie Democrat Party of the treason cult kind.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on July 24, 2014 at 12:50 PM

Anyone, name one foreign or domestic success story under obama.

Pls. don’t name the Black Panthers and Planned Parenthood.

Schadenfreude on July 24, 2014 at 12:20 PM

I guess you won’t like me mention Jon Corzine, either.

Rix on July 24, 2014 at 12:51 PM

This brings up a long smoldering issue within the GOP and conservative voters. With Romney looking like a genius on this situation and others, was it worth sitting home and not voting in order to make some sort of statement about Romneycare/Obamacare (Romney received several million less votes than McCain)?

Reminds me of the kid who was going to hold his breath until he gets what he wants.

Tater Salad on July 24, 2014 at 12:54 PM

All the gains from the cold war of the 80′s by Reagan/Thatcher/Pope John Paul II are lost. Not in battle, but through incompetence & stupidity.

The sad irony is that those gains were lost in large part due to the neocons who falsely claimed the mantle of Reagan, to push policies designed to humiliate and antagonize Russia when it was weak, which Reagan would likely never have approved.

When the USSR collapsed in 1991, most Russians actually had a positive view of the USA. By the early 2000s, a majority had a negative view. What happened in the meantime? NATO basically kicked sand in Russia’s face by aggressively expanding right up to Russia’s border, and ceased to be a defensive alliance when it bombed Russia’s ally Serbia to aid separatists in Kosovo.

And finally, under Obama, the USA and EU encouraged riots and an unconstitutional coup against an elected pro-Russian government in Ukraine. Except that this latest foolish provocation took place when Russia was no longer weak.

If we were deliberately trying to turn Russia back into an enemy, we couldn’t have done a better job.

Jon0815 on July 24, 2014 at 1:00 PM

The Times give Russia/Putin way more credit than it deserves. Yeah let’s drop everything and just focus on Russia’s mafia scheme and call it Cold War II.

You want a solution to the Putin problem? drop cases of Vodka with Obama’s face on them all over Russia. Obama’s approval rating would surpass Putin’s in no time. lol

coolrepublica on July 24, 2014 at 1:02 PM

It’s hard to lose a war you aren’t involved in.

crankyoldlady on July 24, 2014 at 1:09 PM

Obama’s approval rating would surpass Putin’s in no time. lol

coolrepublica on July 24, 2014 at 1:02 PM

Are you always this stupid?

cozmo on July 24, 2014 at 1:10 PM

Simon Shuster paints Vladimir Putin President Obama as a master manipulator, controlling events in order to make himself and Russia his administration indispensable for addressing crises that Putin Obama largely orchestrates.

FIFY

Patriot Vet on July 24, 2014 at 1:12 PM

At the heart of this is the mishandling of the Ukrainian economy over the last 20 years.

The Ukrainian protests while the Sochi Olympics were going on and the collapse of the Ukrainian–Russian action plan treaty were what set Putin off.

This is a matter for the EU, Russia and the Eurasian Customs Union to resolve.

The U.S. should stay out of it because, as we all know, everything Obama touches turns to sh!t.

MichaelGabriel on July 24, 2014 at 1:12 PM

That’s hardly subtle, either in its attitude toward Putin (which is explicit) or to the West and the Obama administration, which is implicit in the headline.

It is obvious this is all Bush’s fault for going to war in Iraq. Obama has to manage an unmanagable government becuase America is to big, no person can be effective as president anymore, especially after Bush made such a mess.

/soff

Skwor on July 24, 2014 at 1:13 PM

The Times give Russia/Putin way more credit than it deserves. Yeah let’s drop everything and just focus on Russia’s mafia scheme and call it Cold War II.

You want a solution to the Putin problem? drop cases of Vodka with Obama’s face on them all over Russia. Obama’s approval rating would surpass Putin’s in no time. lol

coolrepublica on July 24, 2014 at 1:02 PM

You just had to drop everything to rush over here and defend President Boyfriend, huh?

Why not just drop one way plane tickets to Mexico, so they can all cross the southern border and declare themselves as unaccompanied minors and hop on board Obama’s gravy train?

Gator Country on July 24, 2014 at 1:22 PM

When you have the French, both of the left and right, happy to sell Russia warships, it’s difficult to see what the administration can realistically do. So far as I know, Chamberlain did not sell airplane parts to Hitler.

bobs1196 on July 24, 2014 at 1:25 PM

coolrepublica on July 24, 2014 at 1:02 PM

You don’t know the Russkies, nor Putin.

Schadenfreude on July 24, 2014 at 1:43 PM

You just had to drop everything to rush over here and defend President Boyfriend, huh?

Why not just drop one way plane tickets to Mexico, so they can all cross the southern border and declare themselves as unaccompanied minors and hop on board Obama’s gravy train?

Gator Country on July 24, 2014 at 1:22 PM

defend Obama? @@ it’s common sense that Russia is not worth the resources and effort of a cold war II. When you are up here, try your best not to break your back competing with people who are down there.

There is no upside for America to give Putin this much attention. The only person who benefits is Putin because it makes him feel important. Giving Putin the cold war he so desperately craves IS letting Putin win.

When you are a CEO of the world, as America fancy itself, micromanaging is very inefficient. America has got better sh!t to do. Let Germany, England deal with Russia. If they can’t do it, then the CEO needs to convene a meeting and discuss a better plan of action.

Again, Russia is NOT at America’s level. And will never be again. They can be a pain in our butt, but any ragtag army with enough discipline can be. But they are not deserving of a cold war.

coolrepublica on July 24, 2014 at 1:46 PM

I wake up in the morning to read the news, and it’s like reading the headlined out of 1939.

Jewish businesses being ransacked/destroyed in Europe
“Kill the Jews” being chanted in the streets
Economy in the toilet
Unemployment high
inflation
US President ignoring allies

Is there a continent where there isn’t a major conflict going on right now?

The World is on fire, and Obama is aloof, and fundraising/playing golf.

At least in the 30′s, we had a nation hardened by ten years of economic straits, and people who had learned to ‘do without’, or ‘make do’.
Now we have a nation of Pajama Boys and Sandra Flukes. Led by a relentless, narcissistic dilettante.

I see dead people‘, to quote the boy in the movie.
But many of them, will be us.

orangemtl on July 24, 2014 at 1:46 PM

I wake up in the morning to read the news, and it’s like reading the headlined out of 1939.

portlandon on July 24, 2014 at 12:17 PM

Interesting you wrote this as I was thinking, “Yes, losing in much the same way the Allies were losing in 1939.” The liberal West was in appeasement mode as they are now and they denounced those blaring the danger sirens.

Here we are again. It isn’t that the West is losing but rather that the western left is losing. The current weak conditions of the West can be laid almost entirely at the feet of the left (with an angry bird flipped to the “neo-cons” for their assist). I fear that once again it will take many millions of lives to beat back the fascists, communists and Islamists and restore what three quarters of a century of sacrifices seemed sure to have secured less than 30 years ago.

deepdiver on July 24, 2014 at 1:56 PM

Obama may be the worst, but he is not the only president to be delusional.

At the end of round one the count was nine. The delusional including all presidents since 1989 (probably since 1988) thought the bell at the end of round one indicated a knockout. They helped the opponent off the mat, went home, and forgot all about a possible round two or three.

burt on July 24, 2014 at 2:08 PM

No one is worried about Russian influence in Africa, for example. Or Asia. or Latin America.

It’s not a cold war but it is something to be worried about. I think more Putins will be popping up over the years.

SteveMG on July 24, 2014 at 12:44 PM

You touch on a very good point. Russia is playing with a very weak hand with regards to their own feeble demographics, anemic economy, rampant corruption, and, yet, they are pushing us all around the geopolitic gridiron like they were Alabama and we Yonkers Community College. And this message is going to be received loud and clear by all the Putin wannabes that figure they have at most two years to cash in on our Malingerer-in-Chief’s reign.

dreadnought62 on July 24, 2014 at 2:21 PM

coolrepublica on July 24, 2014 at 1:46 PM

You never answered yesterday, so I’ll ask again – What makes you such an expert on Russia, and more specifically their military capabilities?

dentarthurdent on July 24, 2014 at 2:30 PM

coolrepublica on July 24, 2014 at 1:46 PM

You sound a lot like someone else I recall from history:

However much we may sympathize with a small nation confronted by a big and powerful neighbours, we cannot in all circumstances undertake to involve the whole British Empire in a war simply on her account.

How horrible, fantastic, incredible, it is that we should be digging trenches and trying on gas-masks here because of a quarrel in a faraway country between people of whom we know nothing.

We would fight not for the political future of a distant city, rather for principles whose destruction would ruin the possibility of peace and security for the peoples of the earth.

I believe it is peace in our time.

Neville Chamberlain

http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/n/neville_chamberlain.html

dentarthurdent on July 24, 2014 at 2:44 PM

The Times give Russia/Putin way more credit than it deserves. Yeah let’s drop everything and just focus on Russia’s mafia scheme and call it Cold War II.

You want a solution to the Putin problem? drop cases of Vodka with Obama’s face on them all over Russia. Obama’s approval rating would surpass Putin’s in no time. lol

coolrepublica on July 24, 2014 at 1:02 PM

I am shocked and appalled by this blatant display of callous, ignorant racism. How dare you stereotype the Russian people as a bunch of alcoholic simpletons. You bigots make me sick.

TarasBulbous on July 24, 2014 at 2:53 PM

I thought Time wanted us to lose.

PS Is Simon Shuster’s middle name &?

formwiz on July 24, 2014 at 3:00 PM

There is no upside for America to give Putin this much attention. The only person who benefits is Putin because it makes him feel important. Giving Putin the cold war he so desperately craves IS letting Putin win.

coolrepublica on July 24, 2014 at 1:46 PM

WTF do you think this is? An episode of Dr. Phil? Putin is not some bratty child, acting out to get daddy’s attention. I’m not sure we know exactly what his strategic intentions are, but at the very least, he seems intent on reassembling some parts of the Russian Empire and given Ukraine’s place in Russian history (You remember Kievan Rus, don’t you? Of course, you don’t.) that makes them top of the list with a bullet.

We have to pay some sort of attention because if the Russians sense enough weakness, who knows what mischief they’ll attempt next. This does not mean we’re sending the 101st to the Dnieper, but we have to have some sort of foreign policy on the subject. Even if the foreign policy is that we have no interest in the area. But this mindless dithering by Obama is the worst possible think: it conveys weakness to our opponents and unreliability to our allies.

Remember: History did not begin on the day you were born.

dreadnought62 on July 24, 2014 at 3:01 PM

For coolrepublica, a conflict in which people are dying is entirely attributable to some childish motivation like “attention-seeking.”

You are such the typical liberal fool. No knowledge of history and so completely unable to place contemporary events in the appropriate context. I thought all you Marxists were about the scientific march of history? But of course, I’m not at all surprised you have no knowledge of Economic Determinism, either.

TarasBulbous on July 24, 2014 at 3:19 PM

America lost the day it elected Obama.

albill on July 24, 2014 at 3:36 PM

This brings up a long smoldering issue within the GOP and conservative voters. With Romney looking like a genius on this situation and others, was it worth sitting home and not voting in order to make some sort of statement about Romneycare/Obamacare (Romney received several million less votes than McCain)?

Reminds me of the kid who was going to hold his breath until he gets what he wants.

Tater Salad on July 24, 2014 at 12:54 PM

<strong>^^^^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^^^

Von Kleist on July 24, 2014 at 4:04 PM

The Times give Russia/Putin way more credit than it deserves. Yeah let’s drop everything and just focus on Russia’s mafia scheme and call it Cold War II.

You want a solution to the Putin problem? drop cases of Vodka with Obama’s face on them all over Russia. Obama’s approval rating would surpass Putin’s in no time. lol

coolrepublica on July 24, 2014 at 1:02 PM

Yeah…let’s just un-friend Putin already and be done with the whole thing !

?? typical lib response.

Von Kleist on July 24, 2014 at 4:08 PM

State Dept confirms: Russia is now shelling Ukraine

Resist We Much on July 24, 2014 at 4:23 PM

This is a game changer– Russian forces are firing on Ukrainian targets from inside Russia.

The Pentagon and State Department confirmed today that Russian troops were firing artillery from inside Russia at Ukrainian targets.
AFP reported:

The United States has evidence that Russian troops are firing artillery from inside Russia on Ukrainian military positions, a US official alleged Thursday.

Moscow is also planning to “deliver heavier and more powerful multiple rocket launchers” to the pro-Russian separatist forces in Ukraine, US deputy State Department spokeswoman Marie Harf said.

The evidence was based on “intelligence information” that since the shooting down of a Malaysian airliner with the loss of 298 lives arms were “continuing to flow across the border” into Ukraine, Harf said, but she refused to reveal US sources or give further information.

“They’re firing artillery from within Russia to attack Ukranian military,”
Harf told reporters.

Resist We Much on July 24, 2014 at 4:32 PM

Guys, guys, let’s not give Putin the attention he wants. Just let him shell the Ukies, he’ll get tired of it shortly if we just don’t react.

TarasBulbous on July 24, 2014 at 4:54 PM

Barry is heading to the turd heap of history. Fund raiser anyone?

Krupnikas on July 25, 2014 at 10:59 AM