Quotes of the day

posted at 10:41 pm on July 24, 2014 by Ed Morrissey

Top officials crisscrossed the Capitol over the past two days, giving urgent warnings that ISIS represented a threat “worse than Al Qaeda,” in the words of one State Department official, with the capability to create a sanctuary for global jihadists working to threaten American interests.

The self-declared Islamic State in Iraq and Syria is no longer merely a terrorist organization, a top State Department official told House and Senate lawmakers, but “a full-blown army seeking to establish a self-governing state through the Tigris and Euphrates Valley in what is now Syria and Iraq.” …

“[ISIS] has proving to be… more effective in terms of organizing and developing a state structure than even core Al Qaeda, and that is why it is more than just a terrorist organization—it certainly doesn’t have the global reach in terms of terrorist capacity as core Al Qaeda, but it has the sophistication to develop what has really becoming a state-like sanctuary for a global jihadist movement,” McGurk said. “They’re a self-sustaining organization.”

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The dawn attack began with militants firing mortar rounds on Iraqi army bases in the town of Taji, where suspects were being held on terrorism charges, prompting officials to evacuate the facilities, fearing a jailbreak.

As the convoy traveled through a remote area, roadside bombs went off and militants opened fire. The ensuing battle left 52 prisoners and eight soldiers dead, with another eight soldiers and seven prisoners wounded, they added. It was not immediately clear if the prisoners were killed by soldiers or militants, or if the extremist Islamic State group was involved. …

Militants affiliated with the Islamic State group — which seized much of northern and western Iraq last month — have staged several jailbreaks, including a complex, military-style assault on two Baghdad-area prisons in July 2013 that freed more than 500 inmates.

Apparently fearing a repeat of the incident, Shiite militiamen killed nearly four dozen Sunni detainees last month in the town of Baqouba northwest of Baghdad when the facility where they were being held came under attack, according to a report by Amnesty International.

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“Life in Mosul is very normal,” says Abu Mustafa. Christians there are treated well, prices are low and people are safe and happy, he says, a description completely at odds with news reports and firsthand accounts describing a reign of terror against anyone in the city who hasn’t sworn loyalty to the caliph.

He seems to believe what he’s saying and performs the group’s public relations not just to blow smoke into the journalist’s eyes, but because he honestly hopes to see the caliph succeed in conquering Baghdad. And then, after the victory, he expects to see the caliphate destroyed.

All we are doing now is just a liberation,” Abu Mustafa says. “After the liberation of Baghdad the Islamic state will be finished. The Sunni rebels are only using them against the corruption of the government.”

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The new jihadist rulers of Iraq’s northern city of Mosul on Thursday completely levelled one its most well-known shrines, an official and witnesses told AFP.

The Nabi Yunus shrine was built on the reputed burial site of a prophet known in the Koran as Yunus and in the Bible as Jonah. …

“They first stopped people from praying in it, they fixed explosive charges around and inside it and then blew it up in front of a large gathering of people,” said a witness who did not wish to give his name.

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“It’s reminiscent of what we saw in Europe in the build-up to the Second World War or the ethnic cleansing witnessed during the Balkans in the early 1990s,” said former British ambassador to the Holy See, Francis Campbell. “It’s as if the world is asleep and doesn’t care.” …

With the exception of Pope Francis and UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon, world leaders have largely been silent about the religious cleansing that is spreading throughout Iraq and Syria — despite urgent calls from religious leaders in the region for an international response to what Ban called a “crime against humanity”. …

Last Friday, the U.S. State Department condemned “in the strongest terms” the hounding and persecution by Isis, calling its ultimatum in Mosul that Christians leave, pay a tax, convert to Islam or face execution as “abominable actions” aimed at dividing and destroying Iraq.

But President Obama has yet to speak on the atrocity. Neither have Europe’s leaders.

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Last weekend Isis gave the city’s Christians a stark choice: convert to Islam, pay a religious tax, or face death. “They said there is no place for Christians in the Islamic state,” one distraught refugee said from the safety of Bashiqa, 16 miles from Mosul. “Either you become Muslim or you leave.” Mosul’s last 1,500 Christian families were reportedly robbed at Isis checkpoints as they fled.

Hundreds have found shelter in areas between Mosul and Irbil – the capital of the Kurdistan regional government – that are controlled by Kurdish Peshmerga fighters, but they face an uncertain future.

If Isis stays, there is no way the Christians can return,” Father Boutrous Moshi said from Qara Qoosh, a Christian area south-east of Mosul. “It is up to God whether we return or not. They have not burned the churches but they did set fire to the pictures and the books and broke the windows.”

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“ISIS is a lot more radicalized against Christians than the Malaki government is, but the Malaki government has not overseen a necessarily hospitable place for churches and Christians to exist,” says the founder and president of The American Islamic Forum for Democracy.

“The number of Christians has decreased [in Iraq] . . . since the ruthless dictator Saddam Hussein left,” he added.

Iraq “has been listed on our commission’s list of countries of particular concern for a number of years.”

The targeting against Christians by ISIS is more extreme, he said.

“ISIS came out of Syria . . . and they are imposing a radicalized version of Sharia law, which they will enact a genocide by doctrine and by Sharia,” Jasser added. “And this is not just unique to Iraq.”

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“Our Brothers in the Islamic State … announcing an inclusive caliphate is a good job,” said Sudan’s Al-Attasam belKetab wa al-Sunna, which broke from Sudan’s Muslim Brotherhood in 1991 to establish a stricter Islamist movement.

We announce our support to this blessed step,” added the Salafi group, which had called for a boycott of 2010 presidential and parliamentary elections because they were based on a secular constitution.

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That’s the general feeling here now: everything is gone. My relatives who fled own nothing anymore. While my niece is happy to take care of her mother and brothers, she needs help from the church. Yesterday my brother went to church to collect mattresses and food for my aunt and her sons and brought them to my niece’s house. It’s very important to have this support from the church now. The support was given by Open Doors through a partner organization.

Sometimes I feel like crying, but I pray that God gives me strength. Christians in Iraq have shown their support for the most affected Christians by holding gatherings and planning marches.

We also changed our Facebook profile pictures to the letter N for Nasrani, meaning “Christians.” In Mosul, this letter was used to mark the Christian houses.

It’s encouraging to see that around the world people are supporting us. We are still proud to be Christians. We will always be Christians.


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Hi G2M. I went to a specialty hard wood store. Beautiful stuff. Its was like wood porn.

Parmenides on July 25, 2014 at 1:04 AM

/the tings I do for friends.

Parmenides on July 25, 2014 at 1:02 AM

The things you know for a noob Greek.

Schadenfreude on July 25, 2014 at 1:05 AM

Whom knows the proper use of who or whom?

Parmenides on July 25, 2014 at 1:06 AM

The things you know for a noob Greek.

Schadenfreude on July 25, 2014 at 1:05 AM

opps. I forgot! I’m Parm.

Parmenides on July 25, 2014 at 1:06 AM

Moody Blues – I’m Just a Singer (In a Rock and Roll Band)

And on that note, I bid Friends and Lurkers niters and sleep well!

Niters and sleep well to those who conked out before me ;-)

Those with bar keys, y’all know what to do… ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on July 25, 2014 at 1:07 AM

Newtie and the Beauty on July 25, 2014 at 1:07 AM

niters. You are hawt tuna not chopped liver.

Parmenides on July 25, 2014 at 1:07 AM

I remember she did that before when I tried to shoot an apple off your bucket with a prototype arrow launcher because she loves you to bitcoinz

/the tings I do for friends.

Parmenides on July 25, 2014 at 1:02 AM

She did. I remember. She always rescues me, even when I’m being disciplined.

. . . omg, what did I just say

Axe on July 25, 2014 at 1:07 AM

Parmenides on July 25, 2014 at 1:04 AM

evening..
I get most of my hardwoods here…
all those barns are full of beautiful wood porn..to the rafters..!!

http://armstrongmillworks.com/Default.aspx

going2mars on July 25, 2014 at 1:08 AM

thatsafactjack on July 25, 2014 at 12:59 AM

Axe on July 25, 2014 at 12:59 AM

Oh. My assumption was that the creep left his “art” outside. Mail tampering is a federal offense; I’m glad that for once, federal law was put to productive use. As for parole violation, the cops would need to know it’s him to investigate the charge.

Rix on July 25, 2014 at 1:09 AM

Newtie and the Beauty on July 25, 2014 at 1:07 AM

Night, Newtie. :)

Axe on July 25, 2014 at 1:10 AM

There is something incredibly disturbing about a man asking to look at another mans pickle… recipe…

oscarwilde on July 25, 2014 at 1:04 AM

evening
I hear ya…the Greek kid started talking about his pickles,
and I was waiting for the bottom to drop out..
I guess we should be thankful it was only soup….this time..

going2mars on July 25, 2014 at 1:12 AM

opps. I forgot! I’m Parm.

Parmenides on July 25, 2014 at 1:06 AM

Stop studying up on other posters. It’s creepy.

Axe on July 25, 2014 at 1:12 AM

crankyoldlady on July 24, 2014 at 11:44 PM

get well soon…hope you are sleeping well.. :)

going2mars on July 25, 2014 at 1:28 AM

Australian soldiers to back up police in securing Ukrainian site of MH17 crash – @PoliticsFairfax

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/australian-soldiers-to-back-up-police-in-securing-ukrainian-site-of-mh17-crash-20140725-3ck94.html

going2mars on July 25, 2014 at 1:37 AM

“It’s as if the world is asleep and doesn’t care.”

I don’t care. And I’m not even asleep.

I mean, if it were a matter of a group of peaceable people being attacked and menaced by ugly-minded evildoers (think Israel and Hamas) then I would care. But the entire Middle East (less Israel) is a seething cesspool of tribal, ethnic and religious hatred and has been since time immemorial. It really is just one bunch of homicidal assholes trying to wipe out another bunch of homicidal assholes.
And I dare to hope it will be a win-win.

jbspry on July 25, 2014 at 1:49 AM

This thread is the top item over at Instapundit, so make sure your fly isn’t open.

Bishop on July 24, 2014 at 11:07 PM

We hope out friends visiting from Instapundit have enjoyed tonight’s summer-stock comment-section parody. :)

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Axe on July 25, 2014 at 1:52 AM

The persecution of Christians is deplorable, and getting scant attention. And sadly, this does not surprise me at all.

But President Obama has yet to speak on the atrocity. Neither have Europe’s leaders.

cat_owner on July 25, 2014 at 2:06 AM

Axe on July 25, 2014 at 1:52 AM

why was this thread a top item at Instapundit?.. any reason?

going2mars on July 25, 2014 at 2:06 AM

Watch Obamacare Architect Jonathan Gruber Admit in 2012 That Subsidies Were Limited to State-Run Exchanges

http://reason.com/blog/2014/07/24/watch-obamacare-architect-jonathan-grube

anotherJoe on July 25, 2014 at 2:11 AM

Axe, we’re going to have to duel

DarkCurrent on July 25, 2014 at 2:19 AM

We’ll need to pick weapons, suits, flowers and stuff

DarkCurrent on July 25, 2014 at 2:20 AM

a date and hour of course

DarkCurrent on July 25, 2014 at 2:24 AM

I leave that all up to you

DarkCurrent on July 25, 2014 at 2:26 AM

aren’t you suppose to slap him with your riding gloves …
er something?

going2mars on July 25, 2014 at 2:31 AM

G’night all. Been out on the porch…

OmahaConservative on July 25, 2014 at 2:35 AM

hey OC…hi.. and bye… sleep well..

going2mars on July 25, 2014 at 2:36 AM

Well, I’m mucho late to the party, I guess.

tommy71 on July 25, 2014 at 2:45 AM

Majik Mijits – Son of stanley lane

kcewa on July 25, 2014 at 2:46 AM

Ahhh,, The Queen photo-bombed our selfie!!

https://twitter.com/_JaydeTaylor/status/492269017215012864/photo/1

going2mars on July 25, 2014 at 2:48 AM

OC lets his cat smoke you know

DarkCurrent on July 25, 2014 at 2:51 AM

going2mars on July 25, 2014 at 2:48 AM

That’s really cool. She looks great for her age.

cat_owner on July 25, 2014 at 2:57 AM

cat_owner on July 25, 2014 at 2:57 AM

she’s a grand one she is..
Queen is always good.. :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgzGwKwLmgM

going2mars on July 25, 2014 at 3:05 AM

German airline company Lufthansa Group to suspend flight operations to and from Tel Aviv for further 24 hours – @NBCNews

https://twitter.com/NBCNews

going2mars on July 25, 2014 at 3:07 AM

going2mars on July 25, 2014 at 3:05 AM

Baby George is just adorable. I like the Royal Family, but don’t understand the obsession so many have with them.

cat_owner on July 25, 2014 at 3:16 AM

Australian PM Tony Abbott confirms some of 100 police and defense force personnel sent to secure MH17 crash site will be armed

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/25/us-ukraine-crisis-australia-idUSKBN0FU0JM20140725

going2mars on July 25, 2014 at 3:17 AM

cat_owner on July 25, 2014 at 3:16 AM

your ok with freddy…right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-rkJmRiFug

going2mars on July 25, 2014 at 3:19 AM

going2mars on July 25, 2014 at 3:19 AM

Sure!

cat_owner on July 25, 2014 at 3:46 AM

Photo: At least 10,000 Palestinians protest Israel’s offensive in Gaza clash with Israeli soldiers in the West Bank

https://twitter.com/AFP/status/492574040419082242/photo/1

going2mars on July 25, 2014 at 3:54 AM

the great Buddy Hackett..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DC8Od13RdbI

and part II..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpG80WsWn3c

going2mars on July 25, 2014 at 4:04 AM

COL – hope you feel better today !!!
How did your doctor appt. go yesterday ??
Hope allllllll is well !!!
My sis has fibromyalgia – NOT good !! she is a physical therapist & has to work every day with that pain. FEEL BETTER… kathyk

kennedyk49 on July 25, 2014 at 4:06 AM

evening kathyk..
how are things up north tonight??

going2mars on July 25, 2014 at 4:11 AM

Royal Jordanian Air Force shoots down unidentified drone near Jordan’s northeastern border with Syria – @Reuters

https://twitter.com/Reuters

going2mars on July 25, 2014 at 4:45 AM

Hackett #3… might as well see em all..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U09LiQgzWGc

going2mars on July 25, 2014 at 4:46 AM

My sis has fibromyalgia – NOT good !! she is a physical therapist & has to work every day with that pain. FEEL BETTER… kathyk

kennedyk49 on July 25, 2014 at 4:06 AM

Thank you, Kathy. I have a number of autoimmune issues. I just happened to be going to the doctor anyway when this attack hit. He gave me a shot. Hope it helps. When you get to my age if it isn’t one thing it’s another.

crankyoldlady on July 25, 2014 at 4:52 AM

I guess I’ll have to shut the cat gate for a few days. Something got in to the patio and strewed the waste paper all over and knocked over some things. I never heard a thing. I chased away a coon last night and a possum this morning.

crankyoldlady on July 25, 2014 at 4:55 AM

morning COL..
hope you are feeling better.. :)

going2mars on July 25, 2014 at 5:04 AM

Taliban kill 14 Shiite Muslims after stopping minibuses on roads in western Afghanistan

http://www.bigstory.ap.org/article/afghan-official-taliban-kill-14-shiite-civilians-after-stopping-buses-road

going2mars on July 25, 2014 at 5:06 AM

I hope coffee lover feels better. I didn’t know she was sick.

crankyoldlady on July 25, 2014 at 5:08 AM

Maria Putin living in Holland causes outrage after MH17 disaster

http://www.news.com.au/world/maria-putin-living-in-holland-causes-outrage-after-mh17-disaster/story-fndir2ev-1227000267513

going2mars on July 25, 2014 at 5:22 AM

‘Creepy’ Dolls on Doorsteps Mystery Solved

http://article.wn.com/view/2014/07/25/Creepy_Dolls_on_Doorsteps_Mystery_Solved/

going2mars on July 25, 2014 at 5:24 AM

‘Creepy’ Dolls on Doorsteps Mystery Solved

http://article.wn.com/view/2014/07/25/Creepy_Dolls_on_Doorsteps_Mystery_Solved/

going2mars on July 25, 2014 at 5:24 AM

I hope they’re right.

crankyoldlady on July 25, 2014 at 5:37 AM

why was this thread a top item at Instapundit?.. any reason?

going2mars on July 25, 2014 at 2:06 AM

I dunno. I’ve only vague guesses.

‘Creepy’ Dolls on Doorsteps Mystery Solved

http://article.wn.com/view/2014/07/25/Creepy_Dolls_on_Doorsteps_Mystery_Solved/

going2mars on July 25, 2014 at 5:24 AM

Excellent. :) Thanks, guy.

Axe on July 25, 2014 at 6:06 AM

I’ve flown past the empty alcoves for the Statues of Buddha in Bamyan. They were mostly empty of course. I’d flown near enough to the Tomb of Jonah to take a picture of it. The Golden Mosque near Samarra.

All of these things (and more) are gone or mostly destroyed. If you believe the ISIS PR guy that their particular brand of caliphate and Sharia is going to be more tolerant than the radicals who have done these other things, you’re naïve.

Christians are still streaming out of Northern Iraq to Kurdistan for protection.

hawkdriver on July 25, 2014 at 6:16 AM

Axe, we’re going to have to duel

DarkCurrent on July 25, 2014 at 2:19 AM

We’ll need to pick weapons, suits, flowers and stuff

DarkCurrent on July 25, 2014 at 2:20 AM

a date and hour of course

DarkCurrent on July 25, 2014 at 2:24 AM

I leave that all up to you

DarkCurrent on July 25, 2014 at 2:26 AM

*shrug*

I just keep looking at these and sighing: 60 Amazingly Beautiful Flowers.

I’m so content. My mellow is so utterly devoid of harshness that I could probably chop out to Pluto and surf the sun’s reflected light all the way back to Wonderland. Either I’m wrapped in two bitcoin worth of love and no longer worried about it, or she’s managed to drive me completely out of my mind — but either way, Resist We Much is one hell of a virtual girlfriend.

Look, I’ll . . . I’ll kill you some other time.

Blind Melon – No Rain

Axe on July 25, 2014 at 6:20 AM

Go Mark! =)

Levin Mocks Obama’s Criticism Of Companies Leaving US: ‘Wow, All Of A Sudden Borders Matter!’

Conservative radio host Mark Levin mocked President Obama’s condemnation of corporations leaving the United States for better tax rates overseas, exclaiming “Wow, all of a sudden borders matter!”

Levin spoke Thursday with Fox New’s Neil Cavuto about the president’s recent push to shame American companies for moving abroad in search of less-punitive tax rates than those found in the United States.

“These companies are running away from taxes here, responsibility here,” Cavuto said, summarizing Obama’s claim for Levin. “You say what?”

“Wow, so all of a sudden national sovereignty and borders matter,” Levin snarked. “How ’bout that? I didn’t know it mattered!”

“You know what, that’s a very good point,” Cavuto said. “That’s an excellent point.”

Like Obama, Levin bemoaned “businesses leaving America to go to socialist European countries” — but his reasoning was quite different than the president’s.

“He’s the problem,” the radio host claimed. “He’s creating the economic conditions in this country where some of these companies are moving their headquarters overseas. Why doesn’t he create the conditions where foreign companies move into the United States?”

“The fact is he’s an economic illiterate,” Levin declared. “He doesn’t like capitalism. He’s a card-carrying ideologue for socialism.”

Levin specifically singled out Obama’s regulatory regime for the corporate exodus. “The Canadians want to build a multibillion dollar pipeline in our country,” he exclaimed. “Who’s stopping them? He’s stopping them!”

“He’s the reason companies leave.” he charged. “He’s the reason wealth is leaving the country.”

“They spew on and on against capitalism,” he continued. “Well guess what! The capitalists are listening!”

non-nonpartisan on July 25, 2014 at 6:26 AM

If you believe the ISIS PR guy . . . you’re naïve.

hawkdriver on July 25, 2014 at 6:16 AM

Diplomatic way of putting that.

Axe on July 25, 2014 at 6:27 AM

“These companies are running away from taxes here, responsibility here,” Cavuto said, summarizing Obama’s claim for Levin. “You say what?”

non-nonpartisan on July 25, 2014 at 6:26 AM

I’ve linked enough, but — see capital fleeing France. :) That’s exactly what the government of France said.

Seems like these guys would come up for air once in awhile to see how the other guy’s Utopia-Thing is going. It would save us all some misery.

Axe on July 25, 2014 at 6:33 AM

We can deal with these lunatics now over there or over here when they will be a much bigger force.

Nat George on July 25, 2014 at 6:44 AM

hawkdriver on July 25, 2014 at 6:16 AM

Diplomatic way of putting that.

Axe on July 25, 2014 at 6:27 AM

Any less diplomatically and I’d be called a racist by some of our more sensitive progressive commenters.

Christians are the real bad guys in the world ya know.

hawkdriver on July 25, 2014 at 6:45 AM

I’ve linked enough, but — see capital fleeing France. :) That’s exactly what the government of France said.

Seems like these guys would come up for air once in awhile to see how the other guy’s Utopia-Thing is going. It would save us all some misery.

Axe on July 25, 2014 at 6:33 AM

We conservatives should always remember that we are talking about the terminally stupid here lol These people simply cannot retain any of the knowledge they acquire in their lives.

You teach them early on that 1+1=2, but they will spend the rest of their lives denying its absoluteness, wasting their time trying to figure out a way around it.

non-nonpartisan on July 25, 2014 at 6:56 AM

Christians are the real bad guys in the world ya know.

hawkdriver on July 25, 2014 at 6:45 AM

those Amish rabblerousers are the worst. right behind the Methodists. :P

ProudinNC on July 25, 2014 at 6:56 AM

Good Morning, Patriots, Sockpuppets, and Trolls!

The false equivalencies being thrown about, all over the cable news channels and the internet by Liberal Pundits, paid and unpaid, trying to justify the murderous cowardly actions of Hamas, boggle the mind of any rational, well-informed American.- KJ

My take: Why are Liberals Siding With Hamas?

kingsjester on July 25, 2014 at 7:01 AM

Seems like these guys would come up for air once in awhile to see how the other guy’s Utopia-Thing is going. It would save us all some misery.

Axe on July 25, 2014 at 6:33 AM

They will never believe socialism doesn’t work. They just think it hasn’t been sold right or funded enough. If only the government were bigger and if only the people would belive us everything would be fine.

crankyoldlady on July 25, 2014 at 7:04 AM

Look on the bright side, ISIS will have them all together in one place for the next president to take care of.

Lonetown on July 25, 2014 at 7:06 AM

HOW ABOUT A “SURGE” OF AMERICAN CITIZENS AT THE WHITE HOUSE FENCE??

I can’t sleep because I am so upset with President Obama’s lawlessness and his promise to continue and even extend his surge of lawlessness. My stomach is turning at his insolence and audacity. His “audacity of hope” (boldness) has been twisted into an “audacity of lawlessness” (arrogant disregard of the law).

If he were my child, I would smack him in the face (I never did that to any of my children).

After listening to Sen. Sessions speak,


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKpM1lmLWMs

I am convinced that the only way Obama can be forced to stop flouting our immigration laws is to demonstrate with an American citizen surge at the White House fence.

If notable voices on this issue — including Michelle Malkin, Laura Ingraham, Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, Mark Steyn, et al, — could organize a national campaign to encourage a 24/7 surge of American citizens protesting at the White House fence, maybe Obama will be shamed into enforcing the law. Maybe if he got to see what border residents see every day he may come to his senses.

He can use his “magic pen” to rescind his 2012 DACA Executive Order, the many directives to DHS (especially the August, 2013, directive to release any adult accompanying a child), and any other mischief he has caused with the stroke of his mighty pen.
No money, no new laws — just undoing his lawlessness.

I will be calling Sen. Sessions’ office Friday (later this morning!) and asking him what we citizens can do.

fred5678 on July 25, 2014 at 7:09 AM

Look on the bright side, ISIS will have them all together in one place for the next president to take care of.

Lonetown on July 25, 2014 at 7:06 AM

Some people have this crazy fantasy that Rand Paul will be the next prez. Can you imagine Rand in the position of trying to teach ISIS a thing or 2? lol

non-nonpartisan on July 25, 2014 at 7:11 AM

I am convinced that the only way Obama can be forced to stop flouting our immigration laws is to demonstrate with an American citizen surge at the White House fence.

I’ve been saying that. Why aren’t there picketers in DC? Maybe because we aren’t being paid by anyone the way the socialist flunkies are and we tend to have jobs and can’t go and they have nothing else to do. Besides we know they shoot people who happen to be near the fence no matter why.

crankyoldlady on July 25, 2014 at 7:19 AM

For anyone who’s forgotten how poorly illiberals lie.

Watch Obamacare Architect Jonathan Gruber Admit in 2012 That Subsidies Were Limited to State-Run Exchanges

Earlier this week, a three-judge panel in the D.C. Circuit Court ruled that, contrary to the Obama administration’s implementation and an Internal Revenue Service rule, Obamacare’s subsidies for private health insurance were limited to state-run health exchanges.

The reasoning for this ruling was simple: That’s what the law says. The section dealing with the creation of state exchanges and the provision of subsidies states, quite clearly, that subsidies are only available in exchanges “established by a State,” which the law expressly defines as the 50 states plus the District of Columbia.

Obamacare’s defenders have responded by saying that this is obviously ridiculous. It doesn’t make any sense in the larger context of the law, and what’s more, no one who supported the law or voted for it ever talked about this. It’s a theory concocted entirely by the law’s opponents, the health law’s backers argue, and never once mentioned by people who crafted or backed the law.

———————

Jonathan Gruber, a Massachusetts Institute of Technology economist who helped design the Massachusetts health law that was the model for Obamacare, was a key influence on the creation of the federal health law. He was widely quoted in the media. During the crafting of the law, the Obama administration brought him on for consultation because of his expertise. He was paid almost $400,000 to consult with the administration on the law. And he has claimed to have written part of the legislation, the section dealing with small business tax credits.

After the law passed, in 2011 and throughout 2012, multiple states sought his expertise to help them understand their options regarding the choice to set up their own exchanges. During that period of time, in January of 2012, Gruber told an audience at Noblis, a technical management support organization, that tax credits—the subsidies available for health insurance—were only available in states that set up their own exchanges.

A video of the presentation, posted on YouTube, was unearthed tonight by Ryan Radia at the Competitive Enterprise Institute, a libertarian think tank which has participated in the legal challenge to the IRS rule allowing subsidies in federal exchanges. Here’s what Gruber says.

What’s important to remember politically about this is if you’re a state and you don’t set up an exchange, that means your citizens don’t get their tax credits—but your citizens still pay the taxes that support this bill. So you’re essentially saying [to] your citizens you’re going to pay all the taxes to help all the other states in the country. I hope that that’s a blatant enough political reality that states will get their act together and realize there are billions of dollars at stake here in setting up these exchanges. But, you know, once again the politics can get ugly around this.

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In early 2013, Gruber told the liberal magazine Mother Jones that the theory advanced by the challengers in this case was “nutty.” Gruber also signed an amicus brief in defense of the administration and the IRS rule. But judging by the video it is quite clear that in 2012 he accepted the essence of the interpretation advanced by the challengers.

Unless this video is a fraud or there are relevant details missing, there are only two options here: Either Gruber, a key influence on the legislation who wrote part of the law and who consulted with multiple states on setting up their own exchanges, was correct, and the law explicitly limits subsidies to state-run exchanges.

Or he was wrong in a way that perfectly aligns with both the clear text of the legislation and the argument later made by the challengers to the IRS rule allowing susbidies in federal exchanges.

Update: Earlier this week, Gruber was on MNSBC to address the Halbig ruling. He was asked if the language limiting subsidies to state-run exchanges was a typo. His response: “It is unambiguous this is a typo. Literally every single person involved in the crafting of this law has said that it`s a typo, that they had no intention of excluding the federal states.”

non-nonpartisan on July 25, 2014 at 7:21 AM

Texas,California and Florida are getting the most of these illegals.

In an election year…imagine that.

Sheesh!

workingclass artist on July 25, 2014 at 7:37 AM

bimmcorp on July 24, 2014 at 11:14 PM

Brad Thor’s new book (Act of War) covers this nicely, but his version had 6 EMP attacks over major cities using weather balloons.

Not a bad read.

HonestLib on July 25, 2014 at 8:00 AM

Thank you, Kathy. I have a number of autoimmune issues. I just happened to be going to the doctor anyway when this attack hit. He gave me a shot. Hope it helps. When you get to my age if it isn’t one thing it’s another.

crankyoldlady on July 25, 2014 at 4:52 AM

Morning COL and hope you feel better. Ah yes, I knows about getting old. It is a change having to admit one is mortal. Chuckle!

Eid al-Fitr (Feast of breaking the Fast) begins at sundown Sunday. A couple of families originally from Pakistan, who I met in England many moons ago, come over to my house for a nice meal and watch me drink a 30 pack of Bud-Lite.

I realize I will soon have my HotAir card pulled for having Muslim friends. As in life sometimes we make choices and sometimes they are made for us.

Wish you and all good folks at HotAir my best and if you need it and I got it……it is yours.

Time to read last nights QOTD.

HonestLib on July 25, 2014 at 8:15 AM

Last Friday, the U.S. State Department condemned “in the strongest terms” the hounding and persecution by Isis, calling its ultimatum in Mosul that Christians leave, pay a tax, convert to Islam or face execution as “abominable actions” aimed at dividing and destroying Iraq.

Please, how can the State Department condemn this? You allowed sharia – nay, encouraged it – to be used as the basis of the country’s constitution. You should expect this. But everyone in the State Department is a progressive, who can’t grasp the clearest consequences of their actions, since human nature and history to them are a blank slate.

GWB on July 25, 2014 at 8:58 AM

Brad Thor’s new book (Act of War) covers this nicely, but his version had 6 EMP attacks over major cities using weather balloons.

Not a bad read.

HonestLib on July 25, 2014 at 8:00 AM

Thank you. I’ll check it out. I get my lunacy from John Price. He wrote ‘The End of America: The Role of Islam in End Times Prophecy’. He backed this non-fiction book up with a fictional trilogy that is good reading, as well. Check him out at:

http://endofamericabook.com/

bimmcorp on July 25, 2014 at 10:54 AM

bimmcorp on July 25, 2014 at 10:54 AM

Thanks and the book has been ordered. A fun fiction read is the (The Twelfth Imam) by Joel C. Rosenberg. It is the first of three and the best. The last two stray from the story line and get a tad preachy. I don’t mind, but some folks were put off.

HonestLib on July 25, 2014 at 11:09 AM

GWB on July 25, 2014 at 8:58 AM

Here is the viewpoint of Sharia by progressives from an article published in The Nation. I know….I know, I only post so you can see their thinking.

http://www.thenation.com/article/168378/true-story-Sharia-american-courts#

HonestLib on July 25, 2014 at 11:17 AM

Bernie Sanders offers bill that allows vets to obtain services from private docs

The Obama administration says it needs about $17.6 billion to hire thousands of doctors, nurses and other health professionals, lease new facilities and upgrade its computers to reduce a backlog of veterans awaiting care at VA hospitals and clinics. The administration’s request does not include money to make it easier for veterans to get health care from private doctors, the biggest cost in Congress’s bills.

But are those healthcare professionals really necessary?

According to reports, the VA hospital in Albuquerque has eight cardiologists who between them see as many patients per week as a single private sector cardiologist would see in two days. The VA doctors get paid the same amount regardless of how many patients they see, so why should they work harder? Liberals may hate profits and the supposed greed it inspires, but profits would get those doctors working harder and could have saved the lives of sick veterans.

Hoping Repubs might consider a utilization review before handing out more funds to the VA.

lineholder on July 25, 2014 at 11:18 AM

HonestLib on July 25, 2014 at 11:17 AM

Wow, all you have to read is the sub-headline to know that article isn’t going to be reality-based. Scary link.

GWB on July 25, 2014 at 12:46 PM

Brad Thor’s new book (Act of War) covers this nicely, but his version had 6 EMP attacks over major cities using weather balloons.

Not a bad read.

HonestLib on July 25, 2014 at 8:00 AM

Signed copy here (sent by….author)

It’s number one now (forgot category), per O’Reilly, who advocated it as a “summer read”.

Schadenfreude on July 25, 2014 at 1:02 PM

Dayam! 50 Shades of Grey movie trailer posted on You Tube yesterday. Has over 7 million hits in one day. One. Day. !!!!!!

I watched it. There are some images suggesting BDSM towards the end of the trailer. They do hint that BDSM is about (1)control and (2)thrill seeking, but they romanticize the ever-loving dickens out of it!

It’s your every-day ordinary “sex-sells” advertising attempt to entice people and tempt them into trying it…and justifying it as “normal”.

Our society speeds towards the moral abyss with increasing speed as each day goes by.

lineholder on July 25, 2014 at 1:26 PM

lineholder on July 25, 2014 at 1:26 PM

I had to google BDSM to see what it was. Lots of links to p0rn sites came up…

OmahaConservative on July 25, 2014 at 3:13 PM

I had to google BDSM to see what it was. Lots of links to p0rn sites came up…

OmahaConservative on July 25, 2014 at 3:13 PM

I thought it stood for Big Dongle Small Mind and was an IT joke of some sort. Well maybe not. Dongle…Richard….what is the difference.

HonestLib on July 25, 2014 at 3:27 PM

OmahaConservative on July 25, 2014 at 3:13 PM

HonestLib on July 25, 2014 at 3:27 PM

Heh. Sorry if it offended either one of you, gentlemen.

BDSM is what Planned Parenthood has been telling 15 year old girls is peachy-keen fine-and-dandy for them to pursue as long as they use the “safe word”.

The heck is it! Lying bunch of baby killers.

lineholder on July 25, 2014 at 7:23 PM

lineholder on July 25, 2014 at 7:23 PM

Didn’t offend me, just didn’t know what it was. Horrible if they are teaching that to young kids…

OmahaConservative on July 25, 2014 at 7:50 PM

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