ISIS reportedly orders women and girls of Mosul to undergo ‘genital mutilation’

posted at 10:40 am on July 24, 2014 by Noah Rothman

Following the purge of Christians in the Iraqi city of Mosul and the destruction of a nearly 2,000-year-old Christian house of worship, fighters with the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) have continued to impose a grotesque and medieval form of Sharia Law on the city’s remaining Muslim residents.

On Wednesday, a United Nations representative claimed that the Sunni Islamist militant group order all women and girls of ages ranging from 11 to 46 to undergo the despicable practice of female circumcision. While a departure from past Islamist practice, this move would represent yet another violation of international human rights as defined by the United Nations.

“The ritual cutting of girls’ genitals is practiced by some African, Middle Eastern and Asian communities in the belief it prepares them for adulthood or marriage,” the BBC reported on Thursday. “The UN General Assembly approved a resolution in December 2012 calling for all member states to ban the practice.”

A UN official in Iraq told Reuters reporters in Europe that this disturbing development must be addressed by the international community.

The “fatwa” would potentially affect 4 million women and girls, [Jacqueline Badcock, the number two U.N. official in Iraq] told reporters in Geneva by videolink from Arbil.

“This is something very new for Iraq, particularly in this area, and is of grave concern and does need to be addressed,” she said, according to Reuters.

This report has not been confirmed and there are indications that it may be a hoax.

Shiraz Maher, a Senior Fellow at King’s College London specialising in the Middle East, had looked at the image for i100 – before the UN’s claims – and concluded it was a fake, likely spread by one of the many, many groups opposed to Isis.

Maher told us FGM was more “cultural” rather than having a specific association with Islamism, adding that it is “not something jihadists have ever really taken up” or “spoken about”.

Ms Badcock herself acknowledged that the order would represent a departure for the jihadists.

It is possible that few foresaw the horrors presently unfolding in Mosul but, according to a new report, the United States was aware that ISIS fighters were going to take the city at least three days before it fell.

“The Obama administration knew an attack was in the works three days in advance of the Islamic State’s offensive in northern Iraq, but U.S. efforts to mount a response were hampered by the Iraqi government’s insistence that it could handle the threat, two top U.S. architects of Iraq policy said Wednesday,” a report via McClatchy reporters revealed.

[State Department’s deputy assistant secretary for Iraq and Iran Brett] McGurk said the United States warned the Iraqi government on June 7 that American intelligence had received “early indications that ISIL was moving in force from Syria into Iraq and staging forces in western Mosul.” He said U.S. officials had sought the urgent deployment of Kurdish peshmerga militia forces to eastern Mosul to stop the extremists’ advance, but that the idea was blocked by Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al Maliki’s administration.

“The government of Baghdad did not share the same sense of urgency and did not approve the deployments,” McGurk said. “Iraqi military commanders promised to send nine brigades of force to Mosul in response to our warnings and we stressed, however, that the forces would not arrive in time.”

McGurk described the resulting events as “catastrophic.”

It is entirely possible that, had a status of forces agreement been reached, that the United States could have checked ISIS’s rapid advance across north and western Iraq. In the absence of a SOFA, it is hard to see what the United States could have done to prevent the crimes against decency unfolding in Iraq.

Given the scale of the human tragedy in Mosul, however, it is certainly fair to blame the administration for forfeiting the gains America won in the last decade and consigning Iraqis to torture, mutilation, and persecution.


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Gee, that’s a shame, but someone called Killery old, so…War on Women!

Rational Thought on July 24, 2014 at 10:42 AM

islam: bringing the world back to the Dark Ages one murder at a time.

ConstantineXI on July 24, 2014 at 10:43 AM

Not a peep from NOW.

Not a peep from the harpies on The View.

Not a peep from Hillary.

Not a peep from Fauxcahontas.

Not a peep from our trolls.

To them democrat women are nothing more than voting vag1nas.

CurtZHP on July 24, 2014 at 10:44 AM

Thanks, Obama. You were right to pull out of this unjust war. Good thing that things are rosy and perfect there now.

Wino on July 24, 2014 at 10:44 AM

Is it only the “Religion of Peace” that does this? I don’t see any Amish groups lining the girls up after the barn-raisin’ and brandishing the pruning shears…

fortcoins on July 24, 2014 at 10:45 AM

Gotta be a hoax – I hope. This could conceivably turn many Sunnis against IS. The worm turns.

vnvet on July 24, 2014 at 10:46 AM

Not a peep from NOW.

Not a peep from the harpies on The View.

Not a peep from Hillary.

Not a peep from Fauxcahontas.

Not a peep from our trolls.

To them democrat women are nothing more than voting vag1nas.

CurtZHP on July 24, 2014 at 10:44 AM

No need for me to post anything – you said it perfectly.

Thank you.

jake-the-goose on July 24, 2014 at 10:47 AM

Can we wipe them off the face of the earth now?

CurtZHP on July 24, 2014 at 10:48 AM

Planned Parenthood finds a new revenue source…

right2bright on July 24, 2014 at 10:48 AM

Not for faint hearted.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_genital_mutilation the

katy the mean old lady on July 24, 2014 at 10:53 AM

Not a peep from NOW.

Not a peep from the harpies on The View.

Not a peep from Hillary.

Not a peep from Fauxcahontas.

Not a peep from our trolls.

To them democrat women are nothing more than voting vag1nas.

CurtZHP on July 24, 2014 at 10:44 AM

Go easy on them. Hashtags are hard.

redzap on July 24, 2014 at 10:53 AM

Planned Parenthood finds a new revenue source…

right2bright on July 24, 2014 at 10:48 AM

Already added to their list of “services” in the Dearborn, MI office.

HumpBot Salvation on July 24, 2014 at 10:54 AM

ANIMALS!

Why are they so afraid of women?

JAM on July 24, 2014 at 10:54 AM

Something something Hamas freedom fighters something something hopefully, someday someone will murder some kids you care about, and then laugh something something.

rogerb on July 24, 2014 at 10:54 AM

Gotta be a hoax – I hope. This could conceivably turn many Sunnis against IS. The worm turns.

vnvet on July 24, 2014 at 10:46 AM

I’ll lean to the side of being true. After all we’re talking about a group that uses human heads for soccer balls.

HumpBot Salvation on July 24, 2014 at 10:55 AM

Not for faint hearted.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_genital_mutilation the

katy the mean old lady on July 24, 2014 at 10:53 AM

Someone needs to start airing footage of one of these “procedures.”

Do it the next time you have Hillary or Elizabeth or Debbie as a guest.

CurtZHP on July 24, 2014 at 10:55 AM

Why are liberals so vocal on the Republican “War on Women” but dead silent on this?

Jack_Burton on July 24, 2014 at 10:58 AM

Next liberal harpie who complains about not getting her morning after pill paid for needs to get popped in the nose.

gophergirl on July 24, 2014 at 10:59 AM

From “Legal Insurrection”

Vice President Joe Biden predicted in 2010 that Iraq would be “one of the greatest achievements” of the Obama administration.

Appearing on CNN’s Larry King Live, Biden told King “It [Iraq] could be one of the greatest achievements of this administration.” He continued, “You’re going to see 90,000 American troops come marching home by the end of the summer. You’re going to see a stable government in Iraq that is actually moving toward a representative government.”

Heckuva job, Barry…

bimmcorp on July 24, 2014 at 10:59 AM

I had posted a little bit about it (http://tinyurl.com/pzfywa5) and something that caught my eye (and raised suspicion) was some reports said Mosul while others said all Iraq.
I happened to see the i100 post too and updated.
I really do hope its a hoax.

dmacleo on July 24, 2014 at 10:59 AM

if it’s a fake story then don’t post about it.

Sachiko on July 24, 2014 at 11:00 AM

Wino beat me to it but let me second.

Thanks obama.

You did this. You telegraphed the pullout. You supported these idiots in Syria and ignored their public statements about attacking Iraq.

Impeach.

hawkdriver on July 24, 2014 at 11:02 AM

Hey, Proggies, THIS is what a ‘war on women’ looks like!

Resist We Much on July 24, 2014 at 11:02 AM

Not a peep from NOW.

Not a peep from the harpies on The View.

Not a peep from Hillary.

Not a peep from Fauxcahontas.

Not a peep from our trolls.

To them democrat women are nothing more than voting vag1nas.

CurtZHP on July 24, 2014 at 10:44 AM

…And all that is because for all their screaming about violent right-wing fanatics, those people know that the possibility of harm from their political opponents is so small as to be negligible.

OTOH, if they were to take up the same cudgels against ISIS or any number of Islamic fanatics, they would be looking over their shoulders for the rest of their lives. MUCH safer to simply attack the people who won’t harm them.

Mike

Mike Kozlowski on July 24, 2014 at 11:02 AM

This is going to seriously impact Bill Clinton’s shine.

catsmeow on July 24, 2014 at 11:06 AM

Not for faint hearted.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_genital_mutilation the

katy the mean old lady on July 24, 2014 at 10:53 AM

The map of Africa is interesting;

FGM in Africa

Because when you compare it to a map showing the African countries that are majority Muslim;

Islam in Africa 1987- U Texas Archive

It’s an almost exact match.

And please note, Egypt falls into the “90% or greater” category. So claiming that this is mainly a holdover from ancient African tribal customs is a cop-out.

This is Islam, in all its “glory”.

clear ether

eon

eon on July 24, 2014 at 11:08 AM

But “the American people are war weary… polls show that Americans don’t want any military engagements… blah, blah, blah…”

I’m so sick of hearing that on television and reading it everywhere. No one wants to send our military into situations that can get them maimed or killed, but there is evil in this world that left unchecked will get away with things like mass kidnapping, the genital mutilation of countless women and girls already living in terror, shooting airliners with innocents aboard out of the sky. It’s time to confront this evil – and where necessary – obliterate it with as much TNT as possible.

dpduq on July 24, 2014 at 11:09 AM

These idiots don’t have a clue what it’s like to share an orgasm. They are depriving themselves of the best human experience God gave us.

Woody

woodcdi on July 24, 2014 at 11:09 AM

In a strange coincidence, I read recently how another one of Obama’s decisions meant women in the U.S. may have to pay for their own abortifacients.

rogerb on July 24, 2014 at 11:09 AM

One of these days these guys will go too far and demand that women pay for their own contraceptives and then the Main Stream Media and women’s rights groups will start letting them have it. In the meantime, have they required that tomatoes and pickles be displayed separately yet?

KW64 on July 24, 2014 at 11:10 AM

Will the Libs finally be outraged over this?

Cindy Munford on July 24, 2014 at 11:13 AM

It’s time to confront this evil – and where necessary – obliterate it with as much TNT as possible.

dpduq on July 24, 2014 at 11:09 AM

Not gonna happen so long as Obama or any other ‘progressive’ liberal is driving the proverbial bus.

bimmcorp on July 24, 2014 at 11:13 AM

Blame Obama for mayhem in Iraq? Interesting. Was there genital mutilation in Iraq under Saddam?

PBH on July 24, 2014 at 11:13 AM

Yet according to our resident Jew-haters ISRAELIS are the true terrorists.
Sickening.

annoyinglittletwerp on July 24, 2014 at 11:14 AM

The world yawns.

faol on July 24, 2014 at 11:15 AM

Obama built that.

CW on July 24, 2014 at 11:16 AM

Will the Libs finally be outraged over this?

Cindy Munford on July 24, 2014 at 11:13 AM

Big bucks says that those 200 kidnapped Nigerian girls got trotted off somewhere for a little genital trim. Maybe Moochelle can whip that old hashtag sign of hers back out and save ‘em?

Nah…there’s lobster to eat and gotta pack for Martha’s Vineyard…

bimmcorp on July 24, 2014 at 11:17 AM

Until ISIS requires the women of the Middle East to pay for their own birth control no one in the White House or Congress will give this a second thought.

War on Women. Don’t leave home without it.

BobMbx on July 24, 2014 at 11:20 AM

Has Obama heard about this on the news yet? I’m sure he will be mad as hell.

Alabama Infidel on July 24, 2014 at 11:20 AM

NOW is on the case.

Schadenfreude on July 24, 2014 at 11:20 AM

Maybe Moochelle can whip that old hashtag sign of hers back out and save ‘em?

bimmcorp on July 24, 2014 at 11:17 AM

#dontclipmyclit

BobMbx on July 24, 2014 at 11:21 AM

Why don’t these thugs cut their eyes out so they don’t see any women any more?

Schadenfreude on July 24, 2014 at 11:21 AM

The Obama administration knew an attack was in the works three days in advance of the Islamic State’s offensive in northern Iraq, but U.S. efforts to mount a response were hampered by the Iraqi government’s insistence that it could handle the threat, two top U.S. architects of Iraq policy said Wednesday,” a report via McClatchy reporters revealed.

Money says that the US actually kept that to themselves, and it (and the lie that they told Iraq about it) is only out now as CYA.

Steve Eggleston on July 24, 2014 at 11:22 AM

“This is not the will of Iraqi people, or the women of Iraq in these vulnerable areas covered by the terrorists.”

Well there ya go. The women don’t want it, so ISIS will be forced to give it up.

Yeah.

BobMbx on July 24, 2014 at 11:24 AM

Go easy on them. Hashtags are hard.

redzap on July 24, 2014 at 10:53 AM

#dontclipmyclit

BobMbx on July 24, 2014 at 11:21 AM

#gimmebackmyvajayjay
#bringbackourgirlparts

There ya go.
So where’s Mooch with her hashtag sign?

dentarthurdent on July 24, 2014 at 11:24 AM

I put this all at the feet of Obama. As most of the homosexual persuasion, Obama hates women. Have you seen what the homosexual fashion designers make women wear? Truly it is torture.

jukin3 on July 24, 2014 at 11:25 AM

FLASH: HILLARY CLAIMS BILL CLINTON ABUSED BY MOTHER in 1999 interview with Pulitzer Prize journalist Lucinda Franks (wife of forme4r Mannhattan District Attorney Robert Morgenthau) which will be revealed in upcoming book due out on8-19-2014 title TIMELESS-Love, Morgenthau and Me-by Lu8cinda Franks.

Sorry for the thread breaker but “genital mutilation” topic is as close as I can come. According to Hillary, Bill was “sex addicted” because he was abused by his mom, Virginia Kelley “IN WAYS YOU WOULDN’T BELIEVE”. Front page of ‘NY Daily News’. Also in London papers.

MaiDee on July 24, 2014 at 11:25 AM

Will the Libs finally be outraged over this?

Cindy Munford on July 24, 2014 at 11:13 AM

Afraid not Cindy. Women are just one of those useful groups they’ve agitated and divided from their God given natural roles. They could care a hoot about them–other than their convenience for political purposes. Much like the GOP with their abuse of social conservatives.

Don L on July 24, 2014 at 11:27 AM

I bet these women would prefer having to pay for their own abortifacients.

CW on July 24, 2014 at 11:28 AM

#what’sreallyimportant

CW on July 24, 2014 at 11:29 AM

Remember, kids, providing only 16 of 20 contraceptives is a War on Women.

Grammar Nazi on July 24, 2014 at 11:33 AM

Not for faint hearted.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_genital_mutilation the

katy the mean old lady on July 24, 2014 at 10:53 AM

Nope. Sorry. Not a chance….

JohnGalt23 on July 24, 2014 at 11:39 AM

Biden told King “It [Iraq] could be one of the greatest achievements of this administration.”

Well that was when it looked good. Now it is all Booooooooosh!!!!’s fault.

jukin3 on July 24, 2014 at 11:41 AM

Blame Obama for mayhem in Iraq? Interesting. Was there genital mutilation in Iraq under Saddam?

PBH on July 24, 2014 at 11:13 AM

Yes there was. The question is, what since the fall of Saddam, was the rate of FGM and was it being forbidden under the newly formed government of Iraq?

I blame Obama for abandoning the Iraqi people to the terrors of ISIS.

bimmcorp on July 24, 2014 at 11:42 AM

Why can’t we just call Islam what it is? Sanctioned savagery.

rmkdbq on July 24, 2014 at 11:45 AM

Weird..troll free thread. Guess female mutilation doesn’t peg on the outrage meter.

HumpBot Salvation on July 24, 2014 at 11:46 AM

There is no depth for the extreme evil that these subhumans terrorists will not reach…

mnjg on July 24, 2014 at 11:46 AM

Ms Badcock?
What a strange coincidence that would be.

vityas on July 24, 2014 at 11:49 AM

These idiots don’t have a clue what it’s like to share an orgasm. They are depriving themselves of the best human experience God gave us.

Woody

woodcdi on July 24, 2014 at 11:09 AM

My friend Achmed says this isn’t true, because he and his goat get along just fine.

Special Forces Grunt on July 24, 2014 at 11:49 AM

BILL CLINTON MOM ABUSE

According to News.com (Australia) Hillary Clinton told wife of ex-Manhattan DA Robert Morganthau–Lucinda Franks “HE WAS YOUNG, BARELY 4, WHEN HE WAS SCARRED BY ABUSE….” (by mother Virginia Kellet). The nature of abuse not specified.

Nothing yet on Drudge.

MaiDee on July 24, 2014 at 11:58 AM

Maher told us FGM was more “cultural” rather than having a specific association with Islamism, adding that it is “not something jihadists have ever really taken up” or “spoken about”.

Ms Badcock herself acknowledged that the order would represent a departure for the jihadists.

Bullsh*t. This is what “fundamental” islamists do to women. It is part of their “culture”.

I feel so very sorry for those in Iraq left behind by Obama. What an absolute shame.

Key West Reader on July 24, 2014 at 11:58 AM

Special Forces Grunt on July 24, 2014 at 11:49 AM

Gigglesnort!

And, thank you for your service.

Key West Reader on July 24, 2014 at 12:00 PM

uess female mutilation doesn’t peg on the outrage meter.

HumpBot Salvation on July 24, 2014 at 11:46 AM

Weird, ain’t it? But dare say something stupid or not pay for an abortifacient and things blow up on these threads. Liberals are foul. Ok just most.

CW on July 24, 2014 at 12:02 PM

Special Forces Grunt on July 24, 2014 at 11:49 AM

Gigglesnort!

And, thank you for your service.

Key West Reader on July 24, 2014 at 12:00 PM

Yep.

CW on July 24, 2014 at 12:03 PM

We had an Iraqi man present to the clinic that couldn’t pee.The doc found his pee tube plugged up with feces.We laughed for a week.

docflash on July 24, 2014 at 12:03 PM

BILL CLINTON MOM ABUSE

According to News.com (Australia) Hillary Clinton told wife of ex-Manhattan DA Robert Morganthau–Lucinda Franks “HE WAS YOUNG, BARELY 4, WHEN HE WAS SCARRED BY ABUSE….” (by mother Virginia Kelley). The nature of abuse not specified.

Nothing yet on Drudge.

MaiDee on July 24, 2014 at 12:03 PM

It is entirely possible that, had a status of forces agreement been reached, that the United States could have checked ISIS’s rapid advance across north and western Iraq. In the absence of a SOFA, it is hard to see what the United States could have done to prevent the crimes against decency unfolding in Iraq.

Given the scale of the human tragedy in Mosul, however, it is certainly fair to blame the administration for forfeiting the gains America won in the last decade and consigning Iraqis to torture, mutilation, and persecution.

Malfeasance by the Oministration. I triple dog double dare Hillary to run for POTUS.

My God. My God. Please, don’t let this be real….

Key West Reader on July 24, 2014 at 12:03 PM

NOT SAFE for human eyes – Female Genital Mutilation photos

Obama.

Key West Reader on July 24, 2014 at 12:05 PM

Strange indeed, that silence from the clitterati.

pjf on July 24, 2014 at 12:05 PM

NOT SAFE for human eyes – Female Genital Mutilation photos

Obama.

Key West Reader on July 24, 2014 at 12:05 PM

I’ll pass.

CW on July 24, 2014 at 12:17 PM

I really do hope its a hoax.

dmacleo on July 24, 2014 at 10:59 AM

Sadly, I doubt it.

oldleprechaun on July 24, 2014 at 12:30 PM

Hey resident Libs, honest question: does cultural relativism trump feminism/empowerment?

TarasBulbous on July 24, 2014 at 12:46 PM

A whole new perspective on the “war on women”. Only this time it is the result of Obama and his actions.

Tater Salad on July 24, 2014 at 12:49 PM

What, they need to fix Allah’s mistake when he made women? Are they admitting that their God Allah is not perfect?

meci on July 24, 2014 at 12:55 PM

The silence is overwhelming. I think that it is rapidly approaching the time when we should overwhelmingly send this group a message to say that we DO NOT accept them as members of the world community.

tjmorrill on July 24, 2014 at 12:56 PM

If the left can’t blame Republicans or Christians for it, it ain’t happening. They do NOT care.

dkmonroe on July 24, 2014 at 12:59 PM

We had an Iraqi man present to the clinic that couldn’t pee.The doc found his pee tube plugged up with feces.We laughed for a week.

docflash on July 24, 2014 at 12:03 PM

Dare we ask, from what species was the feces?

dentarthurdent on July 24, 2014 at 12:59 PM

Breitbart is reporting that ISIS has also declared that all mannequins must wear the veil (lol)…

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/07/22/Islamic-State-Says-Mannequins-in-Maul-Must-Wear-Veils

WhirledPeas on July 24, 2014 at 12:59 PM

Hey resident Libs, honest question: does cultural relativism trump feminism/empowerment?

TarasBulbous on July 24, 2014 at 12:46 PM

Their mouths say no but their actions say hell yes.They’re a bunch of pu$$ies when it comes to the evils of Islam.

CW on July 24, 2014 at 1:11 PM

Dare we ask, from what species was the feces?

dentarthurdent on July 24, 2014 at 12:59 PM

If the guy was 16 it was probably LFOD.

CW on July 24, 2014 at 1:11 PM

Not one troll advocating against this, very telling.

Schadenfreude on July 24, 2014 at 1:44 PM

I’m inclined to think this is a hoax. The foreigners depend on the western Iraqi tribes for support, and female circumcision isn’t a common practice in Iraq so far as I’m aware. If these guys went around checking up women’s skirts a good part of their army would turn against them.

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coolrepublica on June 26, 2014 at 5:02 PM

Schadenfreude on July 24, 2014 at 1:51 PM

Not one troll advocating against this, very telling.

Schadenfreude on July 24, 2014 at 1:44 PM

Of course not.
How could any lefties complain about government mandated free healthcare for wymynzes?

dentarthurdent on July 24, 2014 at 1:56 PM

Breitbart is reporting that ISIS has also declared that all mannequins must wear the veil (lol)…

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/07/22/Islamic-State-Says-Mannequins-in-Maul-Must-Wear-Veils

WhirledPeas on July 24, 2014 at 12:59 PM

You have to be a real pervert to get turned on by a mannequin and completely lacking all self control to be unable to look away.

txhsmom on July 24, 2014 at 2:12 PM

I’m not sure what to think about this… but I’m sure the feminists will tell me if they ever get as evil as Hobby Lobby.

malclave on July 24, 2014 at 2:37 PM

You have to be a real pervert to get turned on by a mannequin and completely lacking all self control to be unable to look away.

txhsmom on July 24, 2014 at 2:12 PM

This is what repression gets you. Oh, but the women actually like wearing bedsheets, they tell us.

TarasBulbous on July 24, 2014 at 2:40 PM

Bad if true, but maybe we should wait until the report’s confirmed?

PersonFromPorlock on July 24, 2014 at 3:15 PM

Even if it turns out to be a hoax, for now, their dear leader, Big Daddy, at some point will think it’s a good idea.

Kissmygrits on July 24, 2014 at 3:24 PM

I’m not sure what to think about this… but I’m sure the feminists will tell me if they ever get as evil as Hobby Lobby.

malclave on July 24, 2014 at 2:37 PM

.
If any Islamic ladies work at Hobby Lobby, will the feminists demand that the medical insurance cover the cost of this ?

listens2glenn on July 24, 2014 at 7:28 PM

Evil freaking monsters just doing Islam’s work..sickening

sadsushi on July 24, 2014 at 9:42 PM

Some call it ‘female circumcision’, but if an equivalent procedure were performed on a male, it would be something on the order of cutting off not only the foreskin, but also slicing off about 1/2 of the penis.

That is why it’s called genital mutilation. After the procedure, the female’s labia and clitoris are gone forever.

Some victims die from infection, because the procedure is done by amateurs (after all, it would be hard to find a trained medical doctor to do this), and the implements used are sometimes nothing more than a shard of broken glass, and are not sterilized.

s1im on July 24, 2014 at 10:17 PM