Watch the most infuriating interview on the Israel-Gaza conflict yet

posted at 6:41 pm on July 23, 2014 by Noah Rothman

Since the start of the most recent conflict in Gaza, Israeli government spokesman Mark Regev has done a fair bit of press in the United States. It was, however, his interview with MSNBC’s Joy Reid that may come to be remembered as the most frustrating interview he did over the entire course of this conflict.

When Regev was not correcting the endless stream of misinformation and untruths that his interlocutor was bombarding him with, he was being interrupted and talked over in the name of time constraints.

The interview got off to a fine start — a bit combative, but by no means out of line. In fact, Reid advanced the conversation early by allowing Regev to respond to criticisms his government has received from Navi Pillay, the UN high commissioner for human rights, who accused Israel of acts bordering on war crimes. But the interview quickly went right off the rails.

There were too many galling episodes over the course of this interview to recount entirely. Regev was repeatedly asked questions which he would answer, only to be told he had not answered them. But before he could clarify his original answer, Reid would change the subject.

But the most mind-numbing, inexplicable moment in an ocean of similar moments came when Reid, ostensibly a cable news host, exposed that she was utterly unfamiliar with the events of the last decade.

While asking for a third time where those Palestinians who lived in homes constructed above Hamas tunnels, structures which were either bombed out or bulldozed, are supposed to go, Reid asserted that it was Israel’s responsibility to shelter those displaced Gaza residents because “Israel is the occupying authority.”

A vexed Regev calmly explained that Israel forcibly evacuated all of Gaza (and portions of the West Bank) more than eight years ago. “There is no Israeli occupation of the Gaza Strip,” he said. The Israeli spokesman added that Israel left Gaza with much of its infrastructure intact. “Gaza was supposed to become this Mediterranean Singapore,” Regev insisted.

Apparently, having been on the receiving end of this rather polite fact check, Reid’s pride was wounded. “First of all, you’re filibustering,” Reid interjected. “We need to point out that Israel does control the coastline, the airspace, the egress and ingress into Gaza. Gaza is not Singapore.”

Reid’s clarification is a touch shy of Israel being the “occupying authority,” and she failed to note that Israel naval and air blockade of the Strip was the result of the return of rocket attacks on Israel from that area and the ascension of Hamas as that territory’s governing authority. But even in the attempt to clarify her misstatement, Reid still misled her audience.

Let’s go to the map:

GZ

Since Israel apparently controls every means of “egress and ingress into Gaza,” it doesn’t make much sense for Iran’s parliament to recently issue a demand that Egypt to open the closed Rafah Crossing ahead of the International Quds Day. That border has been closed by Egyptian forces for over a year, as Egyptians recall the events of 2008 when Palestinians created their own means of egress by blowing a hole in that now more thoroughly secured border.

This entire interview is worth viewing, if only to observe how Regev can serve as a model of self-restraint.

Immediately following Regev’s inquisition centering on the myths surrounding the conflict in Gaza one acquires from reading The Nation a bit too uncritically, Reid asked for a reaction from Yousef Munayyer, the executive director of The Jerusalem Fund and its educational program, The Palestine Center. Oddly, Munayyer never butted up against the clock in the same desperately pressing way that Regev did throughout the course of his interview.

Munayyer said that Regev was one of many Israeli officials who “blame the victims” of violence for their own deaths. He added that this was “fundamentally wrong and, in fact, racist.” At least the guy knew how to tickle the socio-political erogenous zones of his host and the viewing audience.


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So you agree that it’s wrong to fire missiles into Israel daily. Suppressing that activity is not aggression, it’s defense.

Akzed on July 23, 2014 at 8:12 PM

Let’s think about that one. Let’s say Russia took over America because they decided it was “their land” and all we had left was Dallas Texas. Would it be “aggression” for the remaining Americans to fire some rockets into the surrounding states?

It doesn’t seem fair to reward the aggression by ignoring it and then proceed to instead blame those responding to the aggression.

All violent criminals will violently defend what they’ve stolen. If you roll into a land with people living in it and you force them out or kill them – that’s typically not a good thing.

fatlibertarianinokc on July 23, 2014 at 8:19 PM

In brief, the Palestinians are not fighting for the return of “Palestinian lands,” private or national, but for the possession of lands that were Turkish or British in the past.

Facts do no impress Arab propagandists and their Western sympathizers. The BBC will continue undermining Israel and spouting Hanan Ashrawi’s lies. But facts matter to the fair-minded. For their sake, and ours, we must keep repeating the truth and dispelling Arab lies.

FatPhucker is a liar.

CW on July 23, 2014 at 8:24 PM

fatlibertarianinokc on July 23, 2014 at 8:19 PM

Delusional.

Mimzey on July 23, 2014 at 8:27 PM

Would it be “aggression” for the remaining Americans to fire some rockets into the surrounding states?

All violent criminals will violently defend what they’ve stolen. If you roll into a land with people living in it and you force them out or kill them – that’s typically not a good thing.

fatlibertarianinokc on July 23, 2014 at 8:19 PM

Gaza Strip is not occupied.

sentinelrules on July 23, 2014 at 8:27 PM

. Let’s say Russia took over America
fatlibertarianinokc on July 23, 2014 at 8:19 PM

False comparison . Eat shite. You’re so dishonest.

CW on July 23, 2014 at 8:28 PM

Gaza Strip is not occupied.

sentinelrules on July 23, 2014 at 8:27 PM

FatPhucker thinks so. Proves how little this piece of excrement knows.

CW on July 23, 2014 at 8:30 PM

We Love Death as Much as the Jews Like Life – Hamas

CW on July 23, 2014 at 8:39 PM

So Hotair is a MSNBC booster. Please explain why I should be watching this?

tuptian on July 23, 2014 at 8:41 PM

So Hotair is a MSNBC booster. Please explain why I should be watching this?

tuptian on July 23, 2014 at 8:41 PM

Because it’s Noah Rothman’s favorite channel, and he is the newly appointed dominant HotAir blogger.

You notice how the threads barely reach 100 comments, (if that) before they fizzle??

bimmcorp on July 23, 2014 at 8:45 PM

Bummer to get whacked in the hospital after getting whacked is what put you there.
It reminds me of the story of a guy in the stands at a baseball game that got beaned in the head by a foul ball. As he was being carried out on a stretcher, he reportedly took another foul ball to his noggin.

Which makes me wonder how many foul balls to the ol’ melon Joy Reid has taken.

justltl on July 23, 2014 at 8:50 PM

Joy Reid? Well, well, well. I guess Strom Thurmond wasn’t the only randy old senator to have fathered an illegitimate daughter with the maid.

Joseph K on July 23, 2014 at 8:54 PM

Rothman is allergic to facts and history, per usual:

http://hnn.us/article/156321

Also Reid is correct, to say Israel doesn’t occupy Gaza is to say that defacto Jim Crow was fine and only dejure Jim Crow was a problem.

libfreeordie on July 23, 2014 at 8:55 PM

Also Reid is correct, to say Israel doesn’t occupy Gaza is to say that defacto Jim Crow was fine and only dejure Jim Crow was a problem.

libfreeordie on July 23, 2014 at 8:55 PM

If Israel occupied Gaza, how did Hamas come into power?

sentinelrules on July 23, 2014 at 8:56 PM

UK gave land it held to the Jews. What don’t you get about that? Muslims in Israel were duped into leaving, and have not been welcomed into those nations that duped them.

Akzed on July 23, 2014 at 8:16 PM

You should mention that the British, with the blessing of the UN, also gave lands to Jordan, Egypt, and…yes…Palestinians. However, the Palestinians refused to participate in the process and many Palestinians that didn’t leave the lands that were granted to Israel attacked Jewish towns or Jewish quarters within towns. These attacks were in combination with the attacks from neighboring countries. I’m sure many Palestinians suffered from instances of injustices during this time of war, but they hardly deserve the majority of sympathy in all of this.

Additionally, fatlibertarianinokc needs to learn that the Turks ruled the area prior to the British taking control during WW I.

corkie on July 23, 2014 at 8:57 PM

to say Israel doesn’t occupy Gaza is to…CORRECT.

libfreeordie on July 23, 2014 at 8:55 PM

I fixed this for you. There’s no way to argue that Israel occupies Gaza. You failed at this effort last week after it was explained to you (apparently for the first time).

corkie on July 23, 2014 at 9:00 PM

Rothman is allergic to facts and history, per usual:

libfreeordie on July 23, 2014 at 8:55 PM

Are you really stupid enough to believe that series of maps? For starters, the British controlled 100% of the area in 1946, and the Israelis don’t control the West Bank areas shows in the last sequence.

Stop allowing yourself to be so easily fooled.

corkie on July 23, 2014 at 9:04 PM

Let’s say Russia took over America because they decided it was “their land” and all we had left was Dallas Texas. Would it be “aggression” for the remaining Americans to fire some rockets into the surrounding states?

fatlibertarianinokc on July 23, 2014 at 8:19 PM

Terrible example, and not at all applicable. Here’s a better one. Let’s say that the USSR gave Armenia, Azerbaijan, and Georgia their own countries, but the Armenians rejected the borders, refused to form an independent government, and then started firing rockets into Azerbaijan. Who is the aggressor?

corkie on July 23, 2014 at 9:09 PM

Figures our liberal would agree with stupidity.

itsspideyman on July 23, 2014 at 9:16 PM

Terrible example, and not at all applicable.

corkie

If we’re to follow through with his lame example, apparently it would be okay for Mexico to fire rockets into Texas because we’re the real aggressors, lol.

xblade on July 23, 2014 at 9:28 PM

UK gave land it held to the Jews. What don’t you get about that? Muslims in Israel were duped into leaving, and have not been welcomed into those nations that duped them.

Akzed on July 23, 2014 at 8:16 PM

Muslims that stayed in Israel and refused to leave after being ordered to by attacking Arab armies in 1948 are now Israeli citizens, and among the most privileged, free and secure arabs in the entire Middle East.

slickwillie2001 on July 23, 2014 at 9:31 PM

After some participation and a little more reading here, I have come to a conclusion. We cannot get intelligent responses from people who formed their positions without intelligence. This ‘conflict’ started sometime back with ‘Let my people go’. I don’t think it will be resolved in my lifetime.

DemetriusPhalerum on July 23, 2014 at 9:33 PM

libfreeordie on July 23, 2014 at 8:55 PM

We don’t support the Stormfront or KKK positions on Israel and Hamas around here.

mankai on July 23, 2014 at 9:45 PM

Joy reid needs to do some research before she interviews people. I think that would be a prerequisite of doing television interviews.

jaywemm on July 23, 2014 at 9:46 PM

DemetriusPhalerum: agreed. About the only truly disappointing part of these discussions, each time, is the demonstration of how many full blown, dedicated Nazis still walk among this.

I wish we could do to all of them what we did in 1944 and 1945.

Tom Servo on July 23, 2014 at 9:49 PM

She copied the interview with Mark Regev done by Jon Snow on BBC4. It was frustrating to see that an ocean away, the American interviewer had to parrot the BBC dude.

allstonian on July 23, 2014 at 9:53 PM

Tom Servo: “…each time, is the demonstration of how many full blown, dedicated Nazis still walk among this.”

And the “dedicated Nazis” are the ones who disguise themselves as the tolerant, loving, accepting people.

allstonian on July 23, 2014 at 9:55 PM

New ones will arise, Tom. Thousands of years of this and nothing has changed. From Philistines to Palestinians, Marduk to Muslim, nothing has changed.

DemetriusPhalerum on July 23, 2014 at 9:56 PM

Rothman is allergic to facts and history, per usual:

http://hnn.us/article/156321

Also Reid is correct, to say Israel doesn’t occupy Gaza is to say that defacto Jim Crow was fine and only dejure Jim Crow was a problem.

libfreeordie on July 23, 2014 at 8:55 PM

You really should look at Stormfront, I think you would find them an organization very compatible with your views. Here, I’ve done an analysis for you:

Issue……………..Libby………….Stormfront

Racist?……………..√………………√
Stupid?……………..√………………√
Jew-Hating?………..√………………√

Yep, a perfect three out of three. You are made for each other.

slickwillie2001 on July 23, 2014 at 10:24 PM

Gaza is a rat’s nest

TexasJew on July 23, 2014 at 10:27 PM

Let’s think about that one. Let’s say Russia took over America because they decided it was “their land” and all we had left was Dallas Texas. Would it be “aggression” for the remaining Americans to fire some rockets into the surrounding states?

fatlibertarianinokc on July 23, 2014 at 8:19 PM

Hey, fatlibertarianinokc, why don’t you try and get a show on MSNBC. You’re obviously as ignorant and bigoted as Joy Reid.

Any half-wit knows that Israel is not occupying Gaza. You’re whole Russian-taking-over-America analogy doesn’t make sense. Seriously, give MSNBC a call. You’d fit right in over there.

hepcat on July 23, 2014 at 10:28 PM

fatlibertarianinokc,

Are you really Joy Reid. Is fatlibertarianinokc you’re nom de stupid.

hepcat on July 23, 2014 at 10:31 PM

I know the folks among us with brains question why someone like Mr. Regev would go on a channel like MSNBC, considering their anti-semitic leanings, but sometimes you do have to at least attempt to set the record straight, if only because there might be a handful of viewers out there who catch some real facts.

Othniel on July 23, 2014 at 11:47 PM

I felt like I was in the twilight zone. I couldn’t even watch it all. That commentator has no reasoning skills whatsoever.

dougless on July 24, 2014 at 12:30 AM

MSNBC, the spokespersons and the home of Hamas-based propaganda. The left must be so proud.

TarheelBen on July 24, 2014 at 12:53 AM

Back when I was a fire-breathing mindless “Republican” I was always told to support Israel. I never really did, to my credit, but I was just told too. I was consistently fed propaganda about how important Israel’s survival was. In fact – I was given the false impression that Israel’s survival was linked to our survival.

In order to create this impression I was always told just one side of the story – poor Israel, surrounded by people who hate them. Poor Israel – rocket attacks.. Sob, sob. But never the other side? Why? Why can’t I hear the other side?

Cuzz God loves them so much? Say’s who? Some tyrannical murdering thug?

Someone CONVINCE ME why I should be on Israel’s side.

fatlibertarianinokc on July 23, 2014 at 7:39 PM

Hahahahaha

Oh PLEASE You expect us to believe when you were a “Republican” that people came to your home and instructed you on what to think and how to act? That’s odd because we’ve never had visits from weird Republo-fascists. I’d kick their ass if they did. Maybe it was a religious group! You must be a weak weenie anyway!

Or a liar!

Nana on July 24, 2014 at 1:32 AM

Nana on July 24, 2014 at 1:32 AM

It can and seems to be both.

Kenosha Kid on July 24, 2014 at 3:51 AM

fatlibertarianinokc on July 23, 2014 at 8:19 PM

Let’s just stick with the fact that Israel is a sovereign state and has a right to protect itself.

Interesting fairy tale you posted there though.

hawkdriver on July 24, 2014 at 5:52 AM

Someone CONVINCE ME why I should be on Israel’s side.

fatlibertarianinokc on July 23, 2014 at 7:39 PM

You’re an Anti-Semite. No one will be able to convince you of anything.

hawkdriver on July 24, 2014 at 5:53 AM

I fixed this for you. There’s no way to argue that Israel occupies Gaza. You failed at this effort last week after it was explained to you (apparently for the first time).

corkie on July 23, 2014 at 9:00 PM

Just a reminder about the character you’re dealing with.

I have said many times that I post here for gags, stunts and shows.

libfreeordie on June 24, 2014 at 9:00 PM

He plays games, and even admits it, which means he is an idiot whether or not he’s actually as dumb as he always comes across.

non-nonpartisan on July 24, 2014 at 6:31 AM

You’re an Anti-Semite. No one will be able to convince you of anything.

hawkdriver on July 24, 2014 at 5:53 AM

It’s simple, really-anyone who takes the Palestinian side over Israel’s is not a friend of Western civilization.

In light of that, how is it possible to even reason with people like Joy Reid? They are crazy, no exaggeration, as she perfectly proved.

non-nonpartisan on July 24, 2014 at 6:42 AM

“Let’s think about that one. Let’s say Russia took over America because they decided it was “their land” and all we had left was Dallas Texas.”

Why do you introduce inappropriate and clumsy analogies to describe Jordan usurping Palestinian territory?

Further, what does Jordan (who has taken by far more land from Palestine than Israel) have to do with Hamas ignoring multiple agreed to cease fires in order to lob rockets into Israel?

You are a confused lil’ person, aren’t you?

GrassMudHorsey on July 24, 2014 at 8:00 AM

Note that Hamas has formally declared that they will NEVER agree to any ceasefire that doesn’t lift the blockade by Egypt and Israel that keeps weapons and rockets from flowing freely into Gaza.

That pretty much says it all, although the lying scum who defend the murdering Hamas barbarians will probably applaud it as a peaceful gesture, because that’s what lying scum do.

Adjoran on July 24, 2014 at 8:01 AM

It’s too painful for me to watch anything from MSNBC. Whenever I want to piss myself off with this type of “reporting” I just listen to Obama’s lies. Once I’m fired-up and pissed off enough I go for a workout on my heavybag.

Cherokee on July 24, 2014 at 8:08 AM

I have said many times that I post here for gags, stunts and shows.

libfreeordie on June 24, 2014 at 9:00 PM

He plays games, and even admits it, which means he is an idiot whether or not he’s actually as dumb as he always comes across.

non-nonpartisan on July 24, 2014 at 6:31 AM

See, I told ‘ya libfreeandbeatmeup is a masochist.

Cherokee on July 24, 2014 at 8:11 AM

This MSNBC moment was brought to you by Hot Air, the great commercial supporter of MSNBC and main source of advertising revenue via the clicks that it gives us. Without Hot Air you wouldn’t have MSNBC.

ajacksonian on July 24, 2014 at 8:16 AM

Someone CONVINCE ME why I should be on Israel’s side.
fatlibertarianinokc on July 23, 2014 at 7:39 PM

Why should anyone bother? By your own words, you’ve demonstrated to others that you are little more than an ignorant purveyor of verbal excretement.

zoyclem on July 24, 2014 at 8:21 AM

We should sell southern California to the Israelis. Win-win.
Friendly reminder for the pro-Palestinians here to mark their calendars for this year’s annual Rachel Corrie Memorial Dinner, which will be sponsored by Caterpillar Corp. and held at IHOP.

justltl on July 24, 2014 at 8:28 AM

Noah,

There is a reason Rush Limbaugh has ceased running clips from MSNBC on his radio show. There is no purpose in even giving the enemy’s propaganda the light of day when it has already been marginalized to ratings irrelevancy.

MSNBC is Jim Jones. They hand out spiked Koolaid to the cultists only.

Glad to see libfree is representing as a proud viewer of that network.

BKennedy on July 24, 2014 at 8:31 AM

I once asked a dear Egyptian friend of mine why the Arab world doesn’t sequester an area as a homeland for the Palestinians. He informed me that the issue is not really about a Palestinian homeland and that, in fact, the Arab world pretty much views the Palestinians as trailer trash.

justltl on July 24, 2014 at 8:39 AM

Joy Reid and MSNBC are shameful co-conspirators to Hamas and the Evil they are and they do. Those who cover up Evil (Hamas) are in fact Evil themselves.

LeftisnotRight on July 24, 2014 at 8:44 AM

Someone CONVINCE ME why I should be on Israel’s side.

fatlibertarianinokc on July 23, 2014 at 7:39 PM

During his life, Arafat drove relentlessly toward the eradication of Israel, ignoring efforts toward peace and negotiation. Even in 2000 when then-Prime Minister Ehud Barak offered to return Israel to the 1967 borders and cede control of Eastern Jerusalem to the Palestinians, Arafat refused.

At that moment, the PLO lost all claims to legitimacy. Were the argument truly about who owned what swath of soil, Arafat would have eagerly accepted both peace and the territory the Palestinians claimed.

Instead, Arafat walked away from the table without making a counter-offer, scuttling the peace process and ensuring further bloodshed.

If it is right for America to bomb al-Qaeda strongholds in Afghanistan – and it is – then it is equally justifiable for Israel to bomb the terrorist strongholds in the occupied territories.

Washington Nearsider on July 24, 2014 at 8:54 AM

why would ANYONE go on ANY cnn show, why?

mmcnamer1 on July 24, 2014 at 8:56 AM

Back when I was a fire-breathing mindless “Republican” I was always told to support Israel. I never really did, to my credit, but I was just told too. I was consistently fed propaganda about how important Israel’s survival was. In fact – I was given the false impression that Israel’s survival was linked to our survival.

Someone CONVINCE ME why I should be on Israel’s side.

fatlibertarianinokc on July 23, 2014 at 7:39 PM

Thank you for getting one thing right, that Republican’s are supporters of Israel. The 2004 settlement in which Israel drove it’s own citizens kicking and screaming out of Gaza, leaving an infrastructure in which the Palestinians could create their own community is proof enough for me that Israel wants peace. They left three hothouses at a cost of millions of dollars, only to have it town down by the Palestinians while they elected Hamas as their representatives.

Now you tell me, if Israel was in control, would they have allowed them to elect a terrorist organization that does not recognize Israel’s right to exist to be elected.

As for convincing you, forget it. Your mind is forever closed. You’re an anti-semite and nothing will convince you.

itsspideyman on July 24, 2014 at 9:03 AM

I once asked a dear Egyptian friend of mine why the Arab world doesn’t sequester an area as a homeland for the Palestinians. He informed me that the issue is not really about a Palestinian homeland and that, in fact, the Arab world pretty much views the Palestinians as trailer trash.

justltl on July 24, 2014 at 8:39 AM

I’ve heard much the same thing. They are pariahs among their own people.

itsspideyman on July 24, 2014 at 9:04 AM

So what is a “Palestinian”?

If I remember my history correctly, the whole REGION got that name from the Romans, who didn’t want do deal with the idea of an independent Jewish nation. Remember Barabbas? That area had been trouble for the Romans.

Jesus…crucified because he claimed to be the Messiah. The Jewish people wanted a conquering savior who would defeat the Romans. The Sanhedrin handed him over to crucifixion since Jesus wasn’t the messiah they wanted or had use for, and he blasphemed for claiming to be the Son of God, and because he taught with a wisdom that they simply couldn’t contend with…He spoke (speaks) with the authority of one who knows Truth.

70 A.D. the temple is destroyed, and it’s at that point, I believe (correct me if I’m wrong here, this is from memory) the ENTIRE area is renamed Palestina, where Arabs, Jews, and others lived. The folk in that area were then Palestinian Jews, Palestinian Arabs, and Palestinian Christians, among others.

Fast forward, and we see that even the Ottomans had trouble with that region.

If one takes the time to read the events of the ’30′s and ’40′s, it should be relatively obvious that land was divvied up for all.

I don’t understand why the Jordanians, Syrians, or anyone BUT the Israelis has ever given shelter to the refugee group now commonly named as the “Palestinians”.

RI_Red on July 24, 2014 at 9:06 AM

fatlibertarianinokc on July 23, 2014 at 8:19 PM

Bad analogy Mental Midget – since there is well-documented proof of Jewish occupation PREDATING the “Palestinians,” please enlighten us as to who took what, from whom, and when?

The Crusades, which are badly maligned, were fought because the MUSLIMS invaded the land and took it.

If you are going to revise history, you have to go back one HELL of a lot futher than you are attempting to here.

PJ Emeritus on July 24, 2014 at 9:14 AM

The Jews are the indigenous people of Israel. Go to Shiloh and see for yourself. What has happened is that Arafat created a myth that the Left wingers and the Pat Buchanan types now both embrace. It is based in ignorance of history.

The Jews have been a nation in Israel for over 3800 years. The arabs in Israel have to decide if they want to live there in peace or not. If not they need to go back to their own countries and stop the war against the Jews. Or they will lose. Even the Jews in Israel who are left wingers are not going to commit suicide and that is what the Obama/EU/UN policies would require.

See http://www.mythsandfacts.org

georgealbert on July 24, 2014 at 9:20 AM

fatlibertarianinokc on July 23, 2014 at 7:22 PM

Are you, by any chance, living on what was once Indian (oh excuse me Native American) land?

Shay on July 23, 2014 at 7:27 PM

Better question might be. If American Indians started lobbing rocket into major cities….would they be justified in light of history and not current day events. Just a thought.

HonestLib on July 24, 2014 at 9:21 AM

Reid didn’t want answers to her (basically rhetorical) questions. She and her other anti-Israel ilk are only interested in pimping “Palestine.”

mkenorthshore on July 24, 2014 at 9:25 AM

You all do know that “fatlibertarianinokc” is the new name of “libfreeordie”, right?

Cherokee on July 24, 2014 at 9:29 AM

It’s a fascinating debate – “Did Israel steal the land”?

Apparently conservatives support someone coming in and murdering me and stealing my home, as long as they’re Jewish.

All I can say is – can you at least try to see it the conflict through un-biased and non-religious eyes? Pretend WE were THEM. What would we do???

fatlibertarianinokc on July 23, 2014 at 7:22 PM

I realize I’m late to the party, but this is an educational piece if you have the time to watch it:

http://hotair.com/archives/2011/09/20/video-a-brief-history-of-the-israeli-palestinian-conflict/

Almost undoubtedly you won’t watch it or you will label it as misleading, but it’s animated so you won’t have to read anything.

Mark Boabaca on July 24, 2014 at 9:37 AM

Cherokee on July 24, 2014 at 9:29 AM

You should demand he “return” your property

PJ Emeritus on July 24, 2014 at 10:15 AM

Better question might be. If American Indians started lobbing rocket into major cities….would they be justified in light of history and not current day events. Just a thought.

HonestLib on July 24, 2014 at 9:21 AM

No, that’s also a bad analogy. The American Indians had more claim to the land than the European settlers. (We can discuss the poor compromises made by both groups during the period some other time.) The Palestinians don’t have more claim to the land than the Jews. The Palestinians received their land grand from the British in 1948. They were the ones that refused to participate in the process. You seem intellectually honest, so you probably just require a brief history lesson to properly understand the situation.

corkie on July 24, 2014 at 10:17 AM

PJ Emeritus on July 24, 2014 at 10:15 AM

Lol…naw, that’s ok. I acquired a new one in Ponte Vedra Beach, Florida.

Cherokee on July 24, 2014 at 10:34 AM

Pro-Islamofascist biatch,just like our President!

redware on July 24, 2014 at 10:38 AM

Media carries with it a credibility that is totally undeserved. You have all experienced this, in what I call the Murray Gell-Mann Amnesia effect. (I call it by this name because I once discussed it with Murray Gell-Mann, and by dropping a famous name I imply greater importance to myself, and to the effect, than it would otherwise have.)

Briefly stated, the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect works as follows. You open the newspaper to an article on some subject you know well. In Murray’s case, physics. In mine, show business. You read the article and see the journalist has absolutely no understanding of either the facts or the issues. Often, the article is so wrong it actually presents the story backward-reversing cause and effect. I call these the “wet streets cause rain” stories. Paper’s full of them.

In any case, you read with exasperation or amusement the multiple errors in a story-and then turn the page to national or international affairs, and read with renewed interest as if the rest of the newspaper was somehow more accurate about far-off Palestine than it was about the story you just read. You turn the page, and forget what you know.

That is the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect. I’d point out it does not operate in other arenas of life. In ordinary life, if somebody consistently exaggerates or lies to you, you soon discount everything they say. In court, there is the legal doctrine of falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus, which means untruthful in one part, untruthful in all.

But when it comes to the media, we believe against evidence that it is probably worth our time to read other parts of the paper. When, in fact, it almost certainly isn’t. The only possible explanation for our behavior is amnesia.

Michael Crichton, 2002

Caiwyn on July 24, 2014 at 10:39 AM

This was talked about on Mark Levin’s Radio Show yesterday. Quick points:

1) This “news” station is propagating one side’s story.
2) The news lady is an idiot in that she doesn’t get “current” facts correct/straight on Non-occupation of Gaza.
3) She also mis-characterizes the engagement of this current conflict as well.

As for the history of this conflict… I see a few people that stating such moronic analogies to compare this to. It’s pretty apparent that Israel is protecting themselves, and only attack having to defend herself. On top of that, they give FAIR warning to the enemy when attacking.

BKennedy on July 24, 2014 at 8:31 AM

I agree about Rush’s Take too!

-west

mr_west on July 24, 2014 at 10:42 AM

Great point of view on the issue in the Middle East…………..
http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/shalom-motherfr/

Cherokee on July 24, 2014 at 10:49 AM

That interview was laughable, but the message was clear.

Don’t worry Hamas, Hezbollah and every other jihadi terrorist in the Middle East, MSNBC and the rest of the US liberal media has got your back.

Just disgusting.

fogw on July 24, 2014 at 10:53 AM

I do not understand why Israel does not just level Gaza and all the “civilians” who are in the way. They would be rid of Hamas, and the leftist backlash would not be any greater than it is now.

Maybe a bonus would be that people like Joy Reid would have apoplectic attacks that would precede their fatal heart attacks.

NOMOBO on July 24, 2014 at 10:55 AM

Are you, by any chance, living on what was once Indian (oh excuse me Native American) land?

Shay on July 23, 2014 at 7:27 PM

a more accurate term would be: Aboriginal Americans

WaldoTJ on July 24, 2014 at 10:58 AM

Joy Reid gives new meaning to the words “stupid” and “fugly.” By the way, I think Halle Berry is hot.

bw222 on July 24, 2014 at 10:59 AM

I was curious about who this Hamas shill Joy Reid is. Turns out that not only is she a Hamas shill, she is a first class race hustler.

She is the online editor of grio.com (no, I will not link it). I checked it out and it should be called imaracevictim.com Al Sharpton is one of their regular contributors.

This woman is one of the best examples of the worst of America. If seperatism is what she is after, maybe she can convince Hamas to give her half of Gaza to settle.

Her presence in this country disgusts me.

NOMOBO on July 24, 2014 at 1:00 PM

Someone CONVINCE ME why I should be on Israel’s side.

fatlibertarianinokc on July 23, 2014 at 7:39 PM

Maybe you should instead tell us why we should be on the side of these guys

The Schaef on July 24, 2014 at 2:28 PM

Hey, has anyone made a George Zimmerman/Israel comparison yet?

“Just take your beating George/Joos! You deserve it!”

BigAlSouth on July 25, 2014 at 8:07 AM

Maddening is the word. What an idiot this interviewer is.

princetrumpet on July 26, 2014 at 10:12 AM

Joy Reid?

Oh yeah, I remember her. She’s the one who looks straight into the camera and tells me how much she hates me.

MaggiePoo on July 27, 2014 at 12:37 PM

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