Rubio: Immigration reform won’t happen for another 10 years unless border security comes first

posted at 7:21 pm on July 23, 2014 by Allahpundit

His staff and supporters will be quick to remind you that he’s always said he prefers the “security first” option. Okay, but his preference didn’t stop him from co-sponsoring a mammoth comprehensive bill championed by Democrats like Chuck Schumer. In fact, let’s compare Rubio’s rhetoric now versus then. Here he is in June 2013 describing the Gang of Eight bill:

Rubio, responding to the concern that legalization might be delayed and therefore be subjected to the policies of future administrations: Let’s be clear. Nobody is talking about preventing the legalization. The legalization is going to happen. That means the following will happen: First comes the legalization. Then come the measures to secure the border. And then comes the process of permanent residence. What we’re talking about here is the system of permanent residence. As for the legalization, the enormous majority of my colleagues have accepted that it has to happen and that it has to begin at the same time we begin the measures for [the border]. It is not conditional. The legalization is not conditional.

That was the fatal flaw in the bill. If you could somehow arrange a comprehensive deal in which enforcement not only comes first but has been measurably improved before legalization begins, you’ll get some (but not all) border hawks to sign on. A comprehensive bill that makes security its top priority, ensuring that this is the last mass amnesty that America ever undertakes, is worth considering. A bill that legalizes illegals before anything concrete has been achieved on the border isn’t. That’s a recipe for more mass illegal immigration and more amnesties down the road. A nonstarter.

And yesterday, speaking to NPR, Rubio seems to have realized it:

Rubio told Inskeep its political failure came about because his fellow senators did not heed his own warnings to impose border security measures strict enough to satisfy House Republicans.

Rubio said that for major legislation to pass “any time in the next decade,” immigration problems will have to be tackled in steps: first, greater border security, then modernizing the legal immigration system. Only after those goals are accomplished will the country be able to decide “what to do with the 11 or 12 million human beings that are in this country illegally,” he said.

He reiterated the point in a speech this morning:

I don’t know how else to read this except as a formal repudiation of comprehensive immigration reform — coincidentally, just as 2016 speculation is heating up! (When asked about that by NPR, he said he’d make a decision about running in the next few months.) I’ve been skeptical that he’ll run, either because Jeb Bush will jump in and bigfoot him out of the race by stealing his Florida base of donors and advisors or because Rubio will conclude that he can afford to wait. But there’s no ignoring the evidence lately that he’s thinking hard about it. He’s running away from amnesty ahead of the primaries; he’s starting to swipe at Hillary for being old news; he’s giving thoughtful, well received economic speeches aimed at middle-class voters, among whom Hillary may be especially vulnerable; and he’s trying to move — a little bit — towards the center on social issues. Here’s a passage on gay marriage from today’s speech that denounces discrimination against gays and assures SSM supporters that he respects their position while also reassuring conservatives that he’s on their side. If the embedded text is too small for you to read, click here and it’ll take you to a bigger version.

If Jeb has already decided to run I assume word would have gotten back to Rubio by now, either from Bush himself or from their mutual acquaintances. The fact that Rubio’s moving full speed ahead with his own campaign makes me think Bush really is undecided at this point or, maybe, that he’s quietly decided against running but is keeping that quiet for the moment. Other Republicans seem to have the same impression: Lately Rob Portman has made some noise suggesting he might be eyeing a run, and since he’d run as a moderate (he’s a rare Republican who’s pro-gay marriage, remember), he must have reason to believe there’ll be some space in that niche for him. Which, maybe, means no Jeb. Hmmmm.


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Did Rubio actually learn something or is he putting us on?

HiJack on July 23, 2014 at 7:24 PM

Rubio: Immigration reform won’t happen for another 10 years unless border security comes first

…Says two-face.

FloatingRock on July 23, 2014 at 7:26 PM

Rob Portman was one of the Senators who gave money to Cochran. Conservatives won’t forget.

As for Rubio, he lost his chance last year. No amount of back tracking will change that.

cat_owner on July 23, 2014 at 7:26 PM

Did Rubio actually learn something or is he putting us on?

HiJack on July 23, 2014 at 7:24 PM

No, just saying what he thinks we want to hear. If elected, he’ll change his tune.

President Rubio?

Nope. Nope. Nope.

31giddyup on July 23, 2014 at 7:28 PM

Triangulating double talk.

Dongemaharu on July 23, 2014 at 7:28 PM

Did Rubio actually learn something or is he putting us on?

HiJack on July 23, 2014 at 7:24 PM

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice….

portlandon on July 23, 2014 at 7:29 PM

Rubio is just a poor mans Ted Cruz or Rand Paul. Both are more attractive as candidates and neither have supported comprehensive reform of ANYTHING. Rubio is a puppet.

DontDroneMeBro on July 23, 2014 at 7:30 PM

First of all, never trust this guy who betrayed his own word on amnesty.

And any bill must not contain ‘contingent amnesty.’ Like: “after 3 years, if security is in place, then we give amnesty… er earn-esty.” None of that. Instead, security of the border, and effective e-verify, must be effectively in place for several years, and only then do we consider amnesty.

Why no contingent amnesty? One reason is the 1986 bill which had “enshrined in law” that amnesty would only be given after there was border security. Well, nope, we got the amnesty, not the security. And there are other reasons to not do contingent amnesty. But that’s the main one. Pass a bill now (or in 2017) that concentrates solely on border security and e-verify. Years later then we can consider amnesty.

anotherJoe on July 23, 2014 at 7:33 PM

If he means it, why the qualification that it won’t happen for 10 years? Definitely no imm reform for 10 years unless border is secured!!! But 10 years from now, whatevs.

jdpaz on July 23, 2014 at 7:34 PM

Never voting for you, Bush Puppet.

Jedditelol on July 23, 2014 at 7:36 PM

They will never secure the border and nothing they say they will do before X never never happens. It’s the same old BS.

I like the laws we have now. Enforce them. And, no I would never vote for this liar.

Blake on July 23, 2014 at 7:36 PM

I don’t know how else to read this except as a formal repudiation of comprehensive immigration reform — coincidentally, just as 2016 speculation is heating up!

About time, and it’s past time for many of the other GOPe to learn that ‘comprehensive reform’ as pitched by the Democrats is neither comprehensive, or reform, or even actually directed at fixing the core problem – be it healthcare, immigration, or taxation.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice….

portlandon on July 23, 2014 at 7:29 PM

And that is exactly what Rubio is facing, and why his next Senate campaign will be so very troublesome. I’m hearing in a number of places in FL, that’s a common refrain…and one entirely of his own making. I for one, while I appreciate his move back to the right, would not vote for him based on his membership of the Gang of 8.

Athos on July 23, 2014 at 7:36 PM

Along with Rubio’s other problems, I don’t want a candidate with no executive experience.

jaime on July 23, 2014 at 7:37 PM

Always watch the hand Rubio is trying to distract you from watching.

It’s an old magician’s trick.

viking01 on July 23, 2014 at 7:37 PM

So, he’s evolved on the issue. Scant credibility, but we could probably do worse.

TitularHead on July 23, 2014 at 7:42 PM

RUBIO says he does not see immigration reform passing in next decade unless border security handled separately and first

IOW: Those evil racist teapeople won’t let me pass amnesty right now. But I’m with you, wink, wink.

faraway on July 23, 2014 at 7:44 PM

By the way, everyone here protesting Rubio(including me), you’ll have to vote for him anyway or be responsible for getting a worse Democrat elected. Right? Same as the people who didn’t vote for Romney.

Dongemaharu on July 23, 2014 at 7:45 PM

“Did Rubio actually learn something or is he putting us on?

HiJack on July 23, 2014 at 7:24 PM”

In all fairness to Rubio, he is lying the only question is did he lie once or twice…

When running for Senator he was against ‘amnesty’.

As poster boy for S.744, he was for ‘amnesty’.

Now, he’s against ‘amnesty’.

So, he lied once or he lied twice. Pick one.

Either way he lied to his constituents and the American people about a very important nation-changing issue.

Rubio is walking, talking toast.

DrDeano on July 23, 2014 at 7:45 PM

Did Rubio actually learn something or is he putting us on?

HiJack on July 23, 2014 at 7:24 PM

What do you think?

coolrepublica on July 23, 2014 at 7:46 PM

Rubio is a puppet.

DontDroneMeBro on July 23, 2014 at 7:30 PM

Perhaps. Schumer’s and Pelosi’s puppet.

But we pretty much know now that Rubio planned to do a Judas on amnesty. That’s because his Chief of Staff turned out to be Cesar Conda (check out the google on Conda), an immigration lawyer and aggressive amnesty proponent. This was Rubio’s Chief of Staff. Rubio was going to do an about face on amnesty, we could have predicted that. In this sense, Rubio was a Trojan Horse, and planned it that way. It’s outright betrayal. http://watchdogwire.com/florida/2013/05/19/laura-ingraham-marco-rubio-has-betrayed-conservatives/

anotherJoe on July 23, 2014 at 7:47 PM

It’s the ice cream man!

Galtian on July 23, 2014 at 7:48 PM

Only after those goals are accomplished will the country be able to decide “what to do with the 11 or 12 million human beings that are in this country illegally,” he said.

That 11 – 12 million figure has been thrown around since 2001. The real number is more like 20+ million.

In 1986 then Representative Chuckie Schumer swore there were only about 250,000 illegals; 300,000 tops. The actual number turned out to be $2.7 million.

bw222 on July 23, 2014 at 7:48 PM

While I would never vote for Rubio, I do prefer him to Paul Ryan and the stupid grin.

bw222 on July 23, 2014 at 7:49 PM

Rubio killed himself a long time ago. He’s done. Oh well. Guess we’ll have to choose one of the other potential candidates – everyone of which has also openly supported some type of “amnesty”.

cdog0613 on July 23, 2014 at 7:50 PM

Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain !!

The great mediocre and powerful effete Oz Rubio has spoken !!

viking01 on July 23, 2014 at 7:52 PM

Changing the message, but not the goal.
The goal should be to return as many as is economically feasible to their home nations. That should include around 95% of the ones we already have and 99.99% of the ones that just arrived and 100% of those not here yet. If they need to actually be replaced with immigrants, then speed up the processing of those that fit the jobs requirements who are already in line with a 10 year waiting list to come here.
The goal should be to return this nation to a nation of laws.

astonerii on July 23, 2014 at 7:54 PM

Frigg you Rubio.

I certainly hope you return to the private sector (return or a first? has he ever had a real job?) immediately following your next primary election you anti-American citizen POS.

Garyinaz66 on July 23, 2014 at 7:55 PM

Eh… pulling a fast one on us? Good try.
Fool me twice…. Shame on me.

PS: Remember that one dollar bill in the mail? I do… no more biscuits for you Mr. Rubio.

antisocial on July 23, 2014 at 7:55 PM

Perhaps. Schumer’s and Pelosi’s puppet.

anotherJoe on July 23, 2014 at 7:47 PM

If you remember, Schumer said Rubio is “one of our Republicans.”

bw222 on July 23, 2014 at 7:56 PM

Hillarious: the Floridian Comb-Over Snake is slithering away from its own signature legislation.

But that aside for a moment: border security first… then what? Amnesty? It will be as wrong then as it is now. No legalization, never – period.

Red Widow on July 23, 2014 at 8:02 PM

Rubio has zero credibility on this issue.

He has lied too many times. He will take whatever position he believes is most politically expedient for him at the moment.

Go away, Rubio. It’s not going to happen. We know what you are.

AZCoyote on July 23, 2014 at 8:03 PM

Rubio is a treasonous little worm who should move south of the border to be with his true constituents. He’s a lowlife POS.

Border security is a total joke without interior enforcement – i.e. deporting the invading illegals and making sure that those who have infiltrated our nation are NEVER, EVER, EVER able to come back here under any circumstances, whatsoever. Never ever, ever. Kick their sorry, pathetic azzes out and don’t ever let them back in. Same for Rubio, the rest of the traitors in the Vichy Gop and all the America-hating piecesOS in the dems and their Indonesian Imbecile.

Would somebody please shut Rubio up, though. I’m tired of him running his pie hole when he’s a non-entity. The only time Rubio should be talking is when he’s defending himself against treason charges. Other than that, he should never be seen or heard from again. Dipsh!t.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on July 23, 2014 at 8:04 PM

That 11 – 12 million figure has been thrown around since 2001. The real number is more like 20+ million.

In 1986 then Representative Chuckie Schumer swore there were only about 250,000 illegals; 300,000 tops. The actual number turned out to be $2.7 million.

bw222 on July 23, 2014 at 7:48 PM

Ok, there were 10 times the number of illegals that Schumer contended there were in 1986, so if we assume Schumer is being consistent, and extrapolate, there should be a lot more than 11 million illegals now. And judging by southern California, the numbers have just exploded in the last 5 years, it’s obvious. No way is there just 11 million. That’s a joke. Socal alone probably has several million.

anotherJoe on July 23, 2014 at 8:04 PM

Well, I’ll be the first to state it since no one else on HA has stated it:

Rubio is a two faced lying political ho! He will never be elected POTUS and will be lucky to be reelected to the Senate. He must be primaried so conservatives can be labeled racists by the GOPe. Allen West should primary him. Would that be Karma if West beat him?

they lie on July 23, 2014 at 8:18 PM

Dear Rubio,

We don’t need amnesty before, during, or after securing the border.

Mkay thanks.

X

xblade on July 23, 2014 at 8:20 PM

Rubio said that for major legislation to pass “any time in the next decade,” immigration problems will have to be tackled in steps: first, greater border security …

No, Senator, not greater border security, but TOTAL and COMPLETE border security that is verified beyond doubt.

Even here, he’s leaving the door open.

TXUS on July 23, 2014 at 8:21 PM

Did Rubio actually learn something or is he putting us on?

HiJack

He still hides behind the “immigration reform” weasel word label, so what do you think?

xblade on July 23, 2014 at 8:22 PM

I still think Rubio is testing the waters (2016)..But it does look like he is testing them..:)

Dire Straits on July 23, 2014 at 8:31 PM

Border security may well determine the next POTUS.

A few good epidemics (under ZeroCare) and Capone-style gang warfare* across the country and anything anybody says about “immigration reform” is irrelevant.

* This doesn’t even take into account the coming race war between the Crips and the Bloods on one side and MS-13 and the Zetas on the other.

formwiz on July 23, 2014 at 8:32 PM

He will make a great president

terryannonline on July 23, 2014 at 8:39 PM

He will make a great president

terryannonline on July 23, 2014 at 8:39 PM

Of Mexico or Guatemala. You can follow the treasonous little worm there. Bon voyage.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on July 23, 2014 at 8:41 PM

So while the Federal gov’t spends the next 10 years arguing about border security, State and Local gov’ts should be doing whatever they can to prevent ILLEGAL aliens from invading their areas.

Governors, Mayors and other Local/State elected officials can:

- Provide Maximum enforcement of laws against ILLEGAL Drugs

- End Sanctuary City policies

- Enforce zoning laws against overcrowded homes/rentals

- Encourage the use of E-Verify for local businesses

- Don’t allow “Day Labor” pick-up locations

- Don’t give driver’s licenses to ILLEGAL aliens

- End in-state tuition rates for ILLEGAL aliens

- Report the number of “English Language Learners” in public school systems and the cost of English Learner programs

- Use English for all government business. Let foreigners provide their own translators if necessary.

What else needs to be added to this list?

If the elected officials in your area are not actively working to stop ILLEGAL immigration, then VOTE THEM OUT OF OFFICE.

Make ending ILLEGAL immigration the top issue in the 2014 elections.

wren on July 23, 2014 at 8:41 PM

In other news, Roger Simon still has sex with his mother.

jaime on July 23, 2014 at 8:43 PM

He will make a great president of La Raza

terryannonline

FIFY.

xblade on July 23, 2014 at 8:44 PM

Make ending ILLEGAL immigration the top issue in the 2014 elections.

wren on July 23, 2014 at 8:41 PM

Do we really want to do that??!!!??..Ahead of Obamacare and the lousy economy??!!??..Really??..:)

Dire Straits on July 23, 2014 at 8:46 PM

Rubio is a weasel and even if it was a choice between him or a third Obama term he wouldn’t get my vote.

Ukiah on July 23, 2014 at 8:59 PM

Did Rubio actually learn something or is he putting us on?

HiJack on July 23, 2014 at 7:24 PM

Both. He learned his poll numbers haven’t been in double-digit territory ever since his high-profile support for amnesty…so he’s putting us on.

lynncgb on July 23, 2014 at 9:06 PM

If only he added…….

and as Obama has shown us the last few months, border security means a 1500 mile wall.

Then I might open up to Rubio. But all this means is that border security is ….whatever they decide it means at the moment. Which of course says nothing except open borders.

KMav on July 23, 2014 at 9:07 PM

Rubio told Inskeep its political failure came about…

Failure? That depends on your perspective, from Shumer’s point of view it was a great success, it severely weakened Rubio’s presidential potential and it gave the Democrats a big (false) racist/bigot club with which to beat the Republicans with over immigration.

Sadly, only now Rubio is finally starting to see the light. I’d say that makes him too dense for the office of President of the United States.

RJL on July 23, 2014 at 9:14 PM

We Floridians respect Jeb’s lapdog waterboy as much as we respect Jeb.
NOT AT ALL.

The only thing “The legend in his own mind” will be president of is the Marco Rubio Fan Club or Hair Club for Men.

Jayrae on July 23, 2014 at 9:15 PM

And they call Romney a flip flopper.Desperate much you lying amnesty loving fraud?

redware on July 23, 2014 at 9:20 PM

We Floridians respect Jeb’s lapdog waterboy as much as we respect Jeb.
NOT AT ALL.

The only thing “The legend in his own mind” will be president of is the Marco Rubio Fan Club or Hair Club for Men.

Jayrae on July 23, 2014 at 9:15 PM

He should go back to being an orchestra-leader.

slickwillie2001 on July 23, 2014 at 9:24 PM

Make ending ILLEGAL immigration the top issue in the 2014 elections.

wren on July 23, 2014 at 8:41 PM

Do we really want to do that??!!!??..Ahead of Obamacare and the lousy economy??!!??..Really??..:)

Dire Straits
on July 23, 2014 at 8:46 PM

Yes. ILLEGAL immigration makes so many of our current problems worse.

- ILLEGAL aliens who don’t pay their medical bills increase healthcare costs for the rest of us.

- ILLEGAL aliens who do not have health checks before entering our country, increase our healthcare costs when they bring contagious diseases, that Americans may not have immunity to, with them.

- ILLEGAL aliens who work “under the table” fill jobs that should go to American citizens or legal residents.

- ILLEGAL aliens who send money back to their home countries, are draining resources from the American economy.

- ILLEGAL aliens send their children to public schools to learn English. It is more expensive to educate non-English speaking students. Resources are spent on ILLEGAL aliens that should be spent on American children and children of legal residents.

- ILLEGAL aliens who cannot work legally in the U.S. often earn their living by selling drugs. Bringing more ILLEGAL drugs into our communities hurts our children and increases crime.

- ILLEGAL aliens do not have “documentation” so nobody knows who they really are or if they have criminal or terrorist backgrounds. Allowing tens of millions of ILLEGAL aliens into our country is a national security threat.

- ILLEGAL aliens who drive without licenses or auto insurance increase insurance costs for the rest of us.

- ILLEGAL aliens who have demonstrated that they will not follow our laws contribute to a lawless society.

- ILLEGAL aliens cannot vote, but they are counted in the U.S. Census which is used to determine Congressional representation. So ILLEGAL aliens do distort our political system.

Do others have anything else to add to this list?

Any elected official who does not work hard to end ILLEGAL immigration does not represent the best interests of American citizens and legal residents. Therefore they should be VOTED OUT OF OFFICE!

wren on July 23, 2014 at 9:34 PM

His speech today.

terryannonline on July 23, 2014 at 9:37 PM

wren on July 23, 2014 at 9:34 PM

Game.Set.Match.

Well done, wren …

ShainS on July 23, 2014 at 9:43 PM

Game.Set.Match.

Well done, wren …

ShainS on July 23, 2014 at 9:43 PM

Thank you ShainS! I am a tennis fan too!

wren on July 23, 2014 at 9:45 PM

wren on July 23, 2014 at 9:34 PM

I don’t think that is “primary” with most folks right now….Better to stick with Obiecare and the bad economy right now..We can rattle sabers over that in the future..:)

Dire Straits on July 23, 2014 at 9:59 PM

I don’t see myself trusting Marco Rubio for about 10 more years. Time to watch what he does, not what he says.

joecollins on July 23, 2014 at 10:15 PM

Who is this dude Rubio? I don’t know the man, but he looks a lot like Schumer’s Bi!ch.

Alabama Infidel on July 23, 2014 at 10:20 PM

What a slimy little weasel he is. First, he says what voters want to hear to get elected, then he shows his real intentions when he thinks it’s safe and then, amid the firestorm of voter anger, he backtracks to what he thinks will get him into our White House. Does he think we all have amnesia?

blackgriffin on July 23, 2014 at 10:22 PM

While we’re all jumping on Rubio I still have to ask – does the GOP REALLY think Jeb Bush is a winner or do they just intend to pretend the Independent vote will make up for Conservatives?

katiejane on July 24, 2014 at 7:43 AM

This is the first thing you have said that makes sense. Now, why don’t you put pen to paper and propose a five year plan to secure the border using the National Guard, double or triple fencing, drones and electronic monitoring. After the border is secured, we can discuss immigration policy which must include elimination of the anchor babies and chain migration. And by the way, positioning the Border Patrol 45 miles away from the actual border does not secure the border. Troops and Border Patrol must be stationed ON THE BORDER!

casaler on July 24, 2014 at 8:05 AM

That was a very good speech given by Rubio..The guy can communicate..:)

Dire Straits on July 24, 2014 at 9:05 AM

Only after those goals are accomplished will the country be able to decide “what to do with the 11 or 12 million human beings that are in this country illegally,” he said.

May I suggest we turn them into Soylent Green?

earlgrey on July 24, 2014 at 9:41 AM