Paul Ryan, 2016?

posted at 12:01 pm on July 23, 2014 by Noah Rothman

Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI), the Republican Party’s bookish former vice presidential nominee, is starting to look like a candidate for the presidency in 2016.

In August, Ryan will publish a book with a distinctly campaign-themed title, The Way Forward. On Tuesday, the Federal Election Commission approved of a nationwide book tour sponsored by Ryan’s publisher and the Political Action Committee the Wisconsin congressman founded, Prosperity Action PAC.

“The book will address “the state of the conservative movement in America today, discuss how it contrasts with liberal progressivism, and explain what must be done to save what Representative Ryan refers to as the ‘American Idea,’” the FEC proposal read.

This development comes as the congressman prepares to deliver a major address on conservative social policy. Preliminary reports indicate that Ryan hopes to shape the conservative approach to a variety of contentious socio-economic issues including poverty, education, tax and regulation policy, criminal justice reform, and the consolidation and streamlining of social safety net programs.

Interestingly, Ryan, a fiscal conservative known for advocating budgetary restraint, will be advocating for smarter spending rather than austerity in his speech.

“People familiar with the matter said Mr. Ryan’s plan wouldn’t grow or slash the deficit. Instead, it would expand spending in certain areas, such as work incentives, and cut spending in areas that he will argue are not benefiting the poor,” The Wall Street Journal reported on Tuesday.

The proposals will focus on increasing opportunities for low-income households instead of highlighting ways to cut social welfare programs, said Bob Woodson, president of the Center for Neighborhood Enterprise who has spent more than a year visiting poor cities with Mr. Ryan.

“He’s coming up with a new construct and I’ve encouraged him,” Mr. Woodson said in an interview. “We cannot and should not generalize about poor people. There are the deserving poor and the undeserving poor. It used to be that way and it became politically incorrect. We are returning to some of the old values that served people very effectively until the welfare reforms of the 1960s.”

This is not Ryan’s first attempt to rebrand his party as one which addresses the concerns of poor and middle class voters. His first effort to address poverty issues from a conservative perspective, however, was met with a flurry of criticism from the left and including more than a handful of accusations of racism.

“We have got this tailspin of culture, in our inner cities in particular, of men not working and just generations of men not even thinking about working or learning the value and the culture of work, and so there is a real culture problem here that has to be dealt with,” Ryan told a conservative radio host in March.

In spite of the fact that this precise sentiment was expressed by President Barack Obama, among others, liberal commentators and Democratic congressional representatives said Ryan had exposed his own racial antipathy in this statement.

“When Barack Obama says such things, which are undeniably correct, he is a brave truth-teller; when Paul Ryan says them, he is making an odious play for racist votes,” National Review editor Rich Lowry wrote at the time.

Ryan apologized and clarified his comments, but he shouldn’t have. The manufactured outrage over the House Budget Committee chairman’s choice of words was inevitable, and the charge that Ryan is indulging in “dog whistle” racism will surely be resurrected in the coming months. The attack is an result of the fact that the liberal approach to anti-poverty efforts has few successes to tout. The last defense of the progressive entitlement state is to impugn the motives of those who seek to reform it.

In spite of the objective failure of the War on Poverty to achieve its goals, Democrats continue to enjoy the legacy benefits associated with that campaign. It is a factor contributing to the vast gap between Democrats and Republicans on which party is more trusted to care about everyday concerns important to the vast majority of middle and lower class voters. Any Republican effort to chip away at the perception in the press and among left-of-center voters that the Democratic Party maintains a monopoly on empathy must be vigorously resisted.

Paul Ryan is in for a brutal summer and early fall, but he can take it. His will be a smart campaign aimed at peeling off some layers of President Barack Obama’s winning electoral collation ahead of 2016. At least, that’s what the congressman’s “book tour” looks like in July.


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Meredith on July 23, 2014 at 12:45 PM

Thank you for your emotional, content free post.

I am not a True-Con. I supported Romney in 2012. Heck, I like Romney in 2016. I was also lamenting Romney’s horrific choice of Ryan as his VP, when a lot of conservatives were roaring their approval. A few of us knew then that Ryan was a fraud, and nothing since has caused us to change our opinion.

Romney had the strongest (anti) immigration plank in the 2012 GOP line-up. Ryan was and is an amnesty shill. Romney, despite his apostasy on various issues dear to conservatives, had his own power base and organization outside the Republican Party, and could be counted on to go his own way on important issues. Ryan is a party boy through and through, like Rubio, and will do as he’s told.

But he is clean and articulate, so I can see why you like him.

Joseph K on July 23, 2014 at 1:07 PM

May I remind everyone that he lost a debate to Joe Biden. It wasn’t even close. Furthermore, the GOPe must really be running scared if they’re down to Paul Ryan. I guess Bush, Christie, and Rubio are far too damaged. Not that they care about winning or anything.

joekenha on July 23, 2014 at 12:14 PM

He did not lose that debate. Even the liberal women I know thought Biden behaved like a horse’s behind while Ryan was a gentleman.

That did not gain the Obama Biden team any votes. All Bidens guffaws and snorts did was distract from Ryan’s arguments that the MSM did not give much air time to. Biden was playing defense and not much more.

KW64 on July 23, 2014 at 1:09 PM

Meredith has chimed in.
Now-where’s Petunia?
*runs*

annoyinglittletwerp on July 23, 2014 at 1:13 PM

OT, but … WOW …

Politics: VIDEO: Rick Perry reveals that Obama threatened governors at recent meeting

http://www.caintv.com/video-rick-perry-reveals-that

pambi on July 23, 2014 at 1:03 PM

WOW is right. This should “out there” everywhere. Thanks for passing it on.

31giddyup on July 23, 2014 at 1:14 PM

Ryan is not a fiscal conservative.

Irritable Pundit on July 23, 2014 at 1:17 PM

didn’t you hear?? She’s a Speed Demon!!!!!!

We can’t vote for someone who breaks the LAW!!!!!!!!!!!!!

O.K., I kid….but not about her Toyota Tundra pick up!

SARAH!! Ditch the Toyota, girl.

ToddPA on July 23, 2014 at 12:39 PM

Wrong. Avoid anything made by greedy-UAW goons.

slickwillie2001 on July 23, 2014 at 1:19 PM

If Biden runs then Ryan needs to limit the number of debates because Biden is a better debater then Ryan.

BoxHead1 on July 23, 2014 at 1:19 PM

It still has to be a appealing conservative.

i.e. – Mark Levin won’t win any election for any office – ever.

It takes more than just conservative values – must more.

jake-the-goose on July 23, 2014 at 1:03 PM

I offered a list of 4 conservatives upthread, and Mr. Levin was not among them.

Sarah Palin; Ted Cruz; Allen West; Ben Carson….

All of them are appealing…at least to me they are. And all of them are HATED by the left. Which makes them all the more appealing to me.

bimmcorp on July 23, 2014 at 1:21 PM

KW64 on July 23, 2014 at 1:09 PM

I’m not a Ryan fan but agree with you about the debate. Biden was an absolute clown and an even bigger embarrassment (if that’s possible)
than he had been before.

cat_owner on July 23, 2014 at 1:21 PM

Ryan is not a fiscal conservative.

Irritable Pundit on July 23, 2014 at 1:17 PM

No, but he plays one on TV.

cat_owner on July 23, 2014 at 1:22 PM

The 70% of voters who deplore the extremists are fed up with the pie-in-the-sky BS coming from both bases.

Meredith on July 23, 2014 at 12:45 PM

Those 70% of voters should get in the trenches or go home and watch more TV.

portlandon on July 23, 2014 at 1:23 PM

Congress is in low regard and virtually any candidate coming out of Congress will catch some negatives out of that. This next campaign should play off lack of demonstrated executive and managerial ability on the other side. The public is going to be yearning for someone who can make things work. That is why successful governors should be preferred.

KW64 on July 23, 2014 at 1:24 PM

Paul Ryan is in for a brutal summer and early fall, but he can take it. His will be a smart campaign aimed at peeling off some layers of President Barack Obama’s winning electoral collation ahead of 2016.

+ 100..Agreed..I can only hope there will be others (GOP) that go to the urban areas..I like this strategy..:)

Dire Straits on July 23, 2014 at 1:25 PM

Wrong. Avoid anything made by greedy-UAW goons.

slickwillie2001 on July 23, 2014 at 1:19 PM

I agree…well she could buy a FORD.

I’m old school when it comes to makes and models…

but GM and Chrysler are dogsh*t at this point..

and the UAW are goons….

ToddPA on July 23, 2014 at 1:26 PM

Biden Ryan debate 2016

Ryan: We need to legalize the 12 million undocumented immigrants living in the shadows. We must not be hateful. Good Christians believe in open borders.

Biden: Here we agree, my good friend . We need to pass Amnesty for all undocumented immigrants in this country and give them all reparations for having forced them to live in the shadows.

Ryan: Right you are chum. We need to make sure this is an open and bilingual country. No more racist border.

Biden: I hear you Brother. On this issue there is no daylight between us.

BoxHead1 on July 23, 2014 at 1:27 PM

If you TruCons are against him–especially TC extraordinaire Punk-Chop and the omnipresent, odious Schadenfreude–I’m all for Ryan throwing his hat in the ring.

He’s attractive, smart, likeable, and practical. I think he cares more about the country than he does about himself, which distinguishes him from the Celebrity Airhead from Alaska, whom politically braindead TruCons are still ridiculously pining for.

No wonder far-right dopes with their purity tests can’t stand him. Do the extremists on both sides have ANY idea what they really want? More importantly, do they have the slightest inkling of whether or not their goals are actually attainable in our current political system?

The 70% of voters who deplore the extremists are fed up with the pie-in-the-sky BS coming from both bases.

Meredith on July 23, 2014 at 12:45 PM

Kiss of death right there.

There Goes the Neighborhood on July 23, 2014 at 1:27 PM

The right message within the market place of ideas are typically Rand’s of a smaller less intrusive government. It expands the party, resonates with a younger audience and peels off many minority voters. I’m just not sure he is the right material to be president.

As voters wanting our next GOP president to succeed, we need someone competent, well spoken and with enough management skills to handle the job. Governmental philosophy alone will not guarantee success.

Tater Salad on July 23, 2014 at 1:28 PM

Funny that in the middle of this insane border crisis which can largely be attributed to all the amnesty talk of Obama and the Republican leadership, and we are saying that now more than ever Republicans should not share the amnesty position with the Dems, but at the same time now all the talk is about the biggest amnesty shill of all the Republicans (except Rubio) being our candidate? Will the insanity never end?

anotherJoe on July 23, 2014 at 1:28 PM

Tater Salad on July 23, 2014 at 1:28 PM

Plus most of his “big ticket” plans have been for balancing over a number of years..Not draconian in the first year that would cause chaos..imho..:)

Dire Straits on July 23, 2014 at 1:32 PM

You mean the Paul Ryan who co-wrote the law that took away 1% of not only future veteran’s retirement/disability pensions, but current veterans, including all of our wounded warriors but only affected future government hires?
Or the Paul Ryan who wants to toss all veterans from VA benefits unless they are wounded in combat?

You mean that guy?

Or do you mean the guy who voted for TARP, auto bailouts, 2008 and 2009 stimulus and the Bridge To Nowhere?

I won’t vote for either of those Paul Ryan’s, or the newly created one if he runs in 2016, lol.

NHElle on July 23, 2014 at 1:33 PM

The 70% of voters who deplore the extremists are fed up with the pie-in-the-sky BS coming from both bases.

Meredith on July 23, 2014 at 12:45 PM

Merideth speaks for 70% of the voters, you know.

faraway on July 23, 2014 at 1:36 PM

If Biden runs then Ryan needs to limit the number of debates because Biden is a better debater then Ryan.

BoxHead1 on July 23, 2014 at 1:19 PM

I have complete confidence that Ryan could take Biden in a real debate. But these political debates aren’t really debates. They’re a kind of political showmanship that Biden is actually rather good at.

In the VP debate, Ryan avoided making any big mistakes and avoided being too aggressive against an older man. His handlers were probably quite happy with his performance, and reminded him that Biden’s over-aggressiveness made him look calm and reserved.

Of course, they were wrong. A whole lot of a debate performance is to demonstrate that you can go toe-to-toe with an opponent and not back down. Biden was so ridiculously over-the-top in his performance that the very last thing Ryan should have done was to be polite and accept it.

Imagine if he had told Biden “Knock it off with the childish hand-waving and sputtering. If you can’t make your point without trying to insult me at every turn, then you don’t have a point to make.” The media would have been absolutely horrified and thrown a hissy-fit about his disrespect. But most people would have said, “Ok, I could vote for this guy.” Which is the real goal of a political debate.

There were a whole lot of people expecting Ryan to make Biden look bad. A lot of them thought Ryan would show Palin how it’s done. But the actual outcome was the opposite. Palin demonstrated how to handle Biden in a debate.

There Goes the Neighborhood on July 23, 2014 at 1:38 PM

The right message within the market place of ideas are typically Rand’s of a smaller less intrusive government. It expands the party, resonates with a younger audience and peels off many minority voters. I’m just not sure he is the right material to be president.

Tater Salad on July 23, 2014 at 1:28 PM

I used to agree; it’s too bad he exposed himself as an amnesty supporter. Now he can’t be trusted on the issue even if he pretends to change his tune.

FloatingRock on July 23, 2014 at 1:38 PM

What we need is somebody like Rand Paul but who is an opponent of amnesty-by-any-name.

And if that candidate doesn’t arise, I’ll be supporting Jeff Sessions.

FloatingRock on July 23, 2014 at 1:39 PM

Not a chance.

The establishment, DimocRat wing of the Republican party would be all for him.

The other 75% of the GOP, would either be luke warm or cold to downright hostile toward Ryan running for Pres.

I’m in the downright hostile crowd. He can go pound sand as far as I’m concerned.

Meople on July 23, 2014 at 1:39 PM

NO!

NO!

NOOOOoOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

PLEASE GOD NO NO NO!

NOOOO!

tcufrog on July 23, 2014 at 1:40 PM

i wont vote for him..

Midas on July 23, 2014 at 1:40 PM

I got my annual RNC member re-up phone call this morning. I calmly explained how I would no longer be a member and would be donating directly to the candidates I feel actually will represent me going forward. They kept repeating the same “Obama and the liberals” lines over and over and I just let them know the enemy within our party has proven itself to be just as dangerous and will apparently fight harder against people like me than against “Obama and the liberals” so why would I pay for that. It was odd, the whole repeat over and over, it almost could have been a recording for the the actual responses I was getting.

hollygolightly on July 23, 2014 at 1:42 PM

Shrug. i wont vote for him.

Midas on July 23, 2014 at 1:42 PM

yeah…let me know how well that works out.

dmacleo on July 23, 2014 at 1:44 PM

Paul Ryan looted military retiree pensions and upheld tax credits for illegals. He was lauded by Democrats for his actions. I will have nothing to do with him.

Happy Nomad on July 23, 2014 at 1:45 PM

I got my annual RNC member re-up phone call this morning. I calmly explained how I would no longer be a member and would be donating directly to the candidates I feel actually will represent me going forward. They kept repeating the same “Obama and the liberals” lines over and over and I just let them know the enemy within our party has proven itself to be just as dangerous and will apparently fight harder against people like me than against “Obama and the liberals” so why would I pay for that. It was odd, the whole repeat over and over, it almost could have been a recording for the the actual responses I was getting.

hollygolightly on July 23, 2014 at 1:42 PM

The response you got is typical. They don’t have a response. They have been proven they NEED DimocRat votes, just to keep them in office, a la Mississippi.

The GOP/RNC “leadership” HATES the Tea Party and everyone who dares to support it. This is the most telling fact of all.

The Tea Party represents everything the GOP no longer believes in. If the GOP still REALLY believed in smaller, less intrusive government, lower taxes and getting back to the Constitution, there WOULDN’T BE a Tea Party.

Meople on July 23, 2014 at 1:51 PM

In the VP debate, Ryan avoided making any big mistakes and avoided being too aggressive against an older man. His handlers were probably quite happy with his performance, and reminded him that Biden’s over-aggressiveness made him look calm and reserved.

There Goes the Neighborhood on July 23, 2014 at 1:38 PM

I agree for the most part.

Biden didn’t make himself very likable in that debate but he did make Ryan look like a wimp. No one was going to vote Obama because of Biden anyway. Mitt on the other hand was counting on his “conservative” VP to bring in the grassroots. So Biden won BIG.

A note: Does anybody remember a point or message that Ryan hammered Biden on – NO. Because he didn’t.

Palin got Biden on taxes and Obama’s proposed 250k cut off. But that was a different debate. The market had crashed and everyone was still very confused about the future of the country and what the solution would be. The substance of that debate didn’t hinge on Obama’s 4 years of socialist governance.

Palin came off well enough (better then Biden) and did not look like a wimp ie Palin at least did no damage to the Mcain Palin brand.

Ryan had 4 years of bad governance to hammer biden with. WHat happenned? He whimpered and deferred for the whole debate. A potentially historic and heroic moment gone down the drain. Ryan was benched after his debate. We barely saw him again. At least Mitt had one glowing debate performance.

BoxHead1 on July 23, 2014 at 1:54 PM

I forgot to add from your comment.

… Of course, they were wrong. A whole lot of a debate performance is to demonstrate that you can go toe-to-toe with an opponent and not back down. Biden was so ridiculously over-the-top in his performance that the very last thing Ryan should have done was to be polite and accept it…

There Goes the Neighborhood on July 23, 2014 at 1:38 PM

BoxHead1 on July 23, 2014 at 1:56 PM

If the GOP still REALLY believed in smaller, less intrusive government, lower taxes and getting back to the Constitution, there WOULDN’T BE a Tea Party.

Meople on July 23, 2014 at 1:51 PM

Spot on!

hollygolightly on July 23, 2014 at 2:01 PM

Oh yay!Another RINO to stay home for.And he was such a wonderful VP candidate(sarc).

redware on July 23, 2014 at 2:03 PM

Governors only as far as I’m concerned for 2016. The only candidate from Congress I’m willing to support is Ted Cruz.

Ben Carson is a great guy and I wish him well, but we’ve come to a point where we need someone with some kind of political base and leadership experience that is outside of Washington, and Governors are that by definition.

BKennedy on July 23, 2014 at 2:05 PM

Why settle for Paul Ryan? Let’s see if his best buddy Luis Gutierrez is available.

xblade on July 23, 2014 at 2:05 PM

I cannot get my Texas GOP reps to explain the benefits of the amnesty push they are on. Pete Olson’s underling in Sugar Land got crappy with me and told me it was about compromise two weeks ago but what the heck is the compromise if it still leads to amnesty?

The GOP needs to come clean on its intentions. The CoC is walking lockstep with the dems on this issue.

DanMan on July 23, 2014 at 2:11 PM

Ryan/Cruz 2016 or Cruz/Ryan 2016

Cherokee on July 23, 2014 at 2:13 PM

He did not lose that debate. Even the liberal women I know thought Biden behaved like a horse’s behind while Ryan was a gentleman.

That did not gain the Obama Biden team any votes. All Bidens guffaws and snorts did was distract from Ryan’s arguments that the MSM did not give much air time to. Biden was playing defense and not much more.

KW64 on July 23, 2014 at 1:09 PM

Ryan could have called Biden out any time during the debate, but chose not too.

I suppose, in your opinion, Paul Ryan didn’t get rolled by the dumbest woman in the Senate – a former gym teacher – on the budget either.

bw222 on July 23, 2014 at 2:16 PM

A better title for Ryan’s book would be “Kick the Can Down the Road.”

bw222 on July 23, 2014 at 2:17 PM

If Romney/Ryan had won in ’12, the We’d already have Amnesty now, and the children would be greeted with open arms, a teddy bear, and work permits.

No Ryan. Ever.

portlandon on July 23, 2014 at 12:09 PM

Ryan is a lackluster campaigner. Does anyone remember anything about Ryan in the 2012 campaign other than the night he got his butt kicked by the dumbest VP in history?

bw222 on July 23, 2014 at 2:20 PM

A better title for Ryan’s book would be “Kick the Can Down the Road.”

bw222

I like “How to Spend Like a Drunken Liberal While Pretending to be a Fiscal Conservative.” A little long though, lol.

xblade on July 23, 2014 at 2:23 PM

The disconnect between Hot Air and its commenters is much like the disconnect between the GOP and conservative voters.

SirGawain on July 23, 2014 at 12:13 PM

+100%. Salem (those wonderful people who give you Michael Medved and Hugh Hewitt) Sucks!

bw222 on July 23, 2014 at 2:24 PM

Ryan for POTUS?
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
breath
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

I’d vote for Shillary over that lying Chamber of Cheap Labor stooge.

they lie on July 23, 2014 at 2:25 PM

Unelectable Paul Ryan was one of the most ineffective, useless running mates ever. This overrated, pro-amnesty politician with an irritating grin did not help Romney in a single state, and his meek debate performance made Biden look strong. Yes, he lost the debate to Biden, and Ryan’s supposedly strong debating skills were supposedly a big reason why he was even chosen.

But, worst of all, Paul Ryan is as big an illegal alien amnesty shill as they come.

Paul Ryan disgustingly refers to illegal aliens as “exploited Americans”:
http://twitchy.com/2013/07/11/washington-post-paul-ryan-called-illegal-aliens-exploited-americans/

The fact that pro-amnesty liberal blogger and MSNBC superfan Noah Rothman is a cheerleader for Paul Ryan is all anyone needs to know.

bluegill on July 23, 2014 at 2:26 PM

Ryan is a lackluster campaigner. Does anyone remember anything about Ryan in the 2012 campaign other than the night he got his butt kicked by the dumbest VP in history?

bw222

What I remember most is that in some early exit polling after the election, voters said Ryan was a drag on the ticket. I wish I had bookmarked it because I haven’t been able to find it since.

xblade on July 23, 2014 at 2:27 PM

The GOP needs to come clean on its intentions. The CoC is walking lockstep with the dems on this issue.

DanMan on July 23, 2014 at 2:11 PM

Actually the Chamber of Commerce walks in lockstep with the Dems on a number of issues.

bw222 on July 23, 2014 at 2:27 PM

To determine a true ‘winner’ in any future Presidential/Vice-Presidential debate, we should have the debaters face-off in a game of “Guitar Hero”….Any recommendations for the song(s) that should be selected to determine the ‘winner’? Biden might select Foreigner’s “Dirty White Boy”….and Ryan?

tanked59 on July 23, 2014 at 2:30 PM

I suppose, in your opinion, Paul Ryan didn’t get rolled by the dumbest woman in the Senate – a former gym teacher – on the budget either.

bw222 on July 23, 2014 at 2:16 PM

Patty Murray just presents the agenda she is told to present. That is why she was allowed to have the committee chairmanship. She could be relied on to stick to the party line she was handed without ever having any ideas of her own. Ryan’s frustration was that she is a parrot not susceptible to rational argument. Also, given that the MSM would blame any breakdown on the GOP Ryan’s hand was not strong.

KW64 on July 23, 2014 at 2:34 PM

Paul Ryan is in for a brutal summer and early fall, but he can take it.

May it not be autumnal.

Schadenfreude on July 23, 2014 at 2:36 PM

Listen to sell-out Paul Ryan make a fool of himself on the Mark Levin show:
http://youtu.be/QrA5igk3pjE

Paul Ryan speed talks too much. The speed talking doesn’t make him sound smart. He comes off like a smug brat trying to bamboozle people.

bluegill on July 23, 2014 at 2:37 PM

The people I watched the VP debate with said they were annoyed with Paul Ryan’s mousey demeanor and said they wanted to slap that annoying, permanent grin off Paul Ryan’s face. And these were people who wanted the Romney ticket to win.

bluegill on July 23, 2014 at 2:41 PM

No No No

Here in Wisconsin, Ryan always wants your money but he refuses to respond to citizens outside his district.

ignatzk on July 23, 2014 at 2:41 PM

How is it, Mr. Rothman, that you glibly throw out the description “Ryan, a fiscal conservative”?

Simply throwing it out there don’t make it so.

Thanks.

hrh40 on July 23, 2014 at 12:31 PM

To Noah Schumer and Boxer are conservatives.

bw222 on July 23, 2014 at 2:45 PM

N.O.P.E.
I was never fooled by Ryan. He signs up for ALL Big Government, even TARP. What a disgrace.

Anyone who gets rolled by idiot Biden does not deserve office.

Just loved how Mark Leibovich ripped up Ryan for the “legend in his own mind” dork that he is in his book “This Town.” That alone was well worth the read.

Jayrae on July 23, 2014 at 2:50 PM

Any Republican effort to chip away at the perception in the press and among left-of-center voters that the Democratic Party maintains a monopoly on empathy must be vigorously resisted.

-Noah Rothman

Huh?

bluegill on July 23, 2014 at 2:50 PM

1. 70% of the voters do not deplore the extremists.

a. Most of them aren’t even told what the extreme liberal left holds. They are constantly lied to.

b. Most of the 70% of voters don’t deplore anything other than a caricature of conservatives — racist, sexist, xenophobic… etc. The same media that covers for liberal liars aggressively sells this lie.

c. This “deploring” of the extremes is a liberal invention to get Republicans to accept more liberal positions.

d. An articulate, principled, optimistic conservative would soon upset this sort of myth.

2. How do you call yourself a conservative when you’ve given up on cutting the budget/deficit?

3. I really think Paul Ryan is a coward — he issued a debate challenge and disappeared. And then — above someone pointed out his getting rolled by Murray (exactly right) — he tried to insist he had nothing to do with cutting the vet COLA…he’s appalling.

EastofEden on July 23, 2014 at 2:54 PM

NO NO NO!

maryo on July 23, 2014 at 2:54 PM

Not sure what kind of candidate he would be.

jake-the-goose on July 23, 2014 at 1:00 PM

Someone was asleep during the entire 2012 campaign. State 1 memorable thing Ryan did or said.

bw222 on July 23, 2014 at 2:55 PM

How is it, Mr. Rothman, that you glibly throw out the description “Ryan, a fiscal conservative”?
Simply throwing it out there don’t make it so.
Thanks.
hrh40 on July 23, 2014 at 12:31 PM

Noah Rothman is an unapologetic liberal who doesn’t care about conservatism. He has admitted as much.

Not only is Noah Rothman a RINO, but he’s also a so-so writer. His posts are dull, sloppy and lack insight.

bluegill on July 23, 2014 at 2:56 PM

He did not lose that debate. Even the liberal women I know thought Biden behaved like a horse’s behind while Ryan was a gentleman.

That did not gain the Obama Biden team any votes. All Bidens guffaws and snorts did was distract from Ryan’s arguments that the MSM did not give much air time to. Biden was playing defense and not much more.

KW64 on July 23, 2014 at 1:09 PM

Biden IS a horse’s behind and is ignorant and stupid to boot.
His intellectual age is around 10, and you don’t need to spend much time around him to know that he is an odious pompous lying bore.

maryo on July 23, 2014 at 2:58 PM

I really don’t even see Ryan running. And did anyone see the story about Michelle Bachman considering another run?? *sigh*

Jack_Burton on July 23, 2014 at 2:58 PM

Built in the USA:

Are you tired about hearing that your Toyota Tundra is a “foreign” truck? Despite a mountain of evidence that the Tundra is one of the most American trucks on the market, people still make ignorant comments about the Tundra’s lineage. Time to shut them up…

Finally, after months of procrastination, we’ve got some Made In America stickers for the Toyota Tundra!

http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/new-made-in-america-tundra-stickers/

davidk on July 23, 2014 at 3:00 PM

Surprised there’s been no coverage of the MU Law poll out today showing Gov Walker losing to Mary Burke among likely voters.

mypalfish on July 23, 2014 at 3:02 PM

Surprised there’s been no coverage of the MU Law poll out today showing Gov Walker losing to Mary Burke among likely voters.

mypalfish on July 23, 2014 at 3:02 PM

Because it shows them tied?

M240H on July 23, 2014 at 3:08 PM

jake-the-goose on July 23, 2014 at 1:00 PM

Pro-illegal alien amnesty commenters like jake-the-goose are always among those who are most pleased with Ryan’s performance in Congress.

Paul [Ryan] is right – and this speech is a hopeful indication of his future direction.
People will snipe at him – the Amnesty freaks will freak – etc.
He is possibly the next Chairman of Ways and Means – this is good.
jake-the-goose on March 17, 2014 at 6:17 PM

One issue Amnesty freaks are beginning to sound like paranoid d-illusionists. I think they many are just that.
jake-the-goose on March 19, 2014 at 7:57 PM

Paranoia abounds this evening.
You amnesty freaks should get a room.
jake-the-goose on March 19, 2014 at 8:42 PM

bluegill on July 23, 2014 at 3:09 PM

Imagine if he had told Biden “Knock it off with the childish hand-waving and sputtering. If you can’t make your point without trying to insult me at every turn, then you don’t have a point to make.” The media would have been absolutely horrified and thrown a hissy-fit about his disrespect. But most people would have said, “Ok, I could vote for this guy.” Which is the real goal of a political debate.

. . .

There Goes the Neighborhood on July 23, 2014 at 1:38 PM

I would have loved to have seen Ryan say this. The closest Ryan came to pushing back during that debate was when he said, “I know you’re under a lot of duress to make up for lost ground but I think people would be better served if we don’t keep interrupting each other.” That was pretty weak sauce.

Throat Wobbler Mangrove on July 23, 2014 at 3:12 PM

State 1 memorable thing Ryan did or said.

bw222 on July 23, 2014 at 2:55 PM

I’ll bite

To my great disappointment, it appears that the politics of division are making a big comeback. Many Americans share my disappointment – especially those who were filled with great hope a few years ago, when then-Senator Obama announced his candidacy in Springfield, Illinois.

Paul Ryan

And if small businesspeople say they made it on their own, all they are saying is that nobody else worked seven days a week in their place. Nobody showed up in their place to open the door at five in the morning. Nobody did their thinking, and worrying, and sweating for them.

Paul Ryan

Our founders got it right when they wrote in the Declaration of Independence that our rights come from nature and nature’s God, not from government.

Paul Ryan

Millions of young Americans have graduated from college during the Obama presidency, ready to use their gifts and get moving in life. Half of them can’t find the work they studied for, or any work at all. So here’s the question: Without a change in leadership, why would the next four years be any different from the last four years?

Paul Ryan

How’s that?

jake-the-goose on July 23, 2014 at 3:13 PM

bluegill on July 23, 2014 at 3:09 PM

Still eating Parrot food I see.

You are nothing is not consistent – no wait – you are nothing.

jake-the-goose on July 23, 2014 at 3:14 PM

It still has to be a appealing conservative.

i.e. – Mark Levin won’t win any election for any office – ever.

It takes more than just conservative values – must more.

jake-the-goose on July 23, 2014 at 1:03 PM

Correct.. You know what isn’t appealing; harassing buses of unaccompanied Central American children. I think that even people who don’t approve of how Obama has reacted to the situation dislike those ugly tactics. If that is all conservatives have, then they deserve to lose. The Republican Party needs to have a positive agenda and I’m interested to hear what Ryan has to say about it.

Illinidiva on July 23, 2014 at 3:25 PM

State 1 memorable thing Ryan did or said.
bw222 on July 23, 2014 at 2:55 PM

Memorable, but not in a good way:

“We cannot have a permanent underclass of Americans exploited in America.”

-Pro-amnesty Paul Ryan on illegal aliens in the US

bluegill on July 23, 2014 at 3:26 PM

Paul Ryan

How’s that?

jake-the-goose on July 23, 2014 at 3:13 PM

Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., says there is growing intolerance for supporters of traditional marriage, defends states’ rights to define marriage – @NBCNews

davidk on July 23, 2014 at 3:27 PM

Illinidiva on July 23, 2014 at 3:25 PM

I agree – I liked your post

jake-the-goose on July 23, 2014 at 3:28 PM

Google Ryans 2012 speeches and cut random sections in order to show … he had speech writers. Ryan probably doesn’t remember what he said in 2012 – that’s how tepid he was.

This is my favorite J-T-G Ryan quote

To my great disappointment, it appears that the politics of division are making a big comeback. Many Americans share my disappointment – especially those who were filled with great hope a few years ago, when then-Senator Obama announced his candidacy in Springfield, Illinois

.

Yeah, we all had such great hope in Obama when he announced in springfield. We all remember what we were doing when his great announcement was made, right? I called everyone I knew. I was so happy/

BoxHead1 on July 23, 2014 at 3:30 PM

And if that candidate doesn’t arise, I’ll be supporting Jeff Sessions.

FloatingRock on July 23, 2014 at 1:39 PM

Jeff Sessions is my hero on this and many other issues.

I have lived in 3 states, none Alabama, since 2006 and I have been calling and thanking him since the first big showdown in 2006.

fred5678 on July 23, 2014 at 3:36 PM

Meredith on July 23, 2014 at 12:45 PM

Thank you for your emotional, content free post.
….

Joseph K on July 23, 2014 at 1:07 PM

I disagree — she had LOTS of “content”, but no logic.

What good is it for Ryan (or any other politician) to “save the country and its economy” if he plans to give it away to foreign invaders? Duh.

fred5678 on July 23, 2014 at 3:44 PM

Correct.. You know what isn’t appealing; harassing buses of unaccompanied Central American children. I think that even people who don’t approve of how Obama has reacted to the situation dislike those ugly tactics. If that is all conservatives have, then they deserve to lose. The Republican Party needs to have a positive agenda and I’m interested to hear what Ryan has to say about it.

Illinidiva on July 23, 2014 at 3:25 PM

Yet, according to your pathetic, drunken reasoning, deriding, mocking and discarding the entire southern population of the United States with your bigoted hyperbole is totes appealing…that about right, Dipstick?

bimmcorp on July 23, 2014 at 3:47 PM

I agree – I liked your post

jake-the-goose on July 23, 2014 at 3:28 PM

Have you been drinkin’ today, Jake??

bimmcorp on July 23, 2014 at 3:48 PM

Yet, according to your pathetic, drunken reasoning, deriding, mocking and discarding the entire southern population of the United States with your bigoted hyperbole is totes appealing…that about right, Dipstick?

bimmcorp on July 23, 2014 at 3:47 PM

You’ve certainly been living up to the stereotypes as of late. Yes, let’s all go form a posse and harass buses of minor children from Latin America.

Illinidiva on July 23, 2014 at 4:00 PM

Have you been drinkin’ today, Jake??

bimmcorp on July 23, 2014 at 3:48 PM

Not yet

jake-the-goose on July 23, 2014 at 4:03 PM

There are litmus tests that will guarantee a loss for the GOP nominee in 2016.

One of those is being in favor of “fixing our broken immigration system”.

Another would be being in favor of “fixing the ACA” or “repeal and replacing the ACA”.

Ryan 2016 is a guaranteed loser.

Bold colors gentlemen.

ReaganCajun on July 23, 2014 at 4:09 PM

Hah. I’d sooner vote for Jeb Bush. If I want open borders, I’ll go right to the leader, not the pale imitation.

Cicero43 on July 23, 2014 at 4:11 PM

You’ve certainly been living up to the stereotypes as of late. Yes, let’s all go form a posse and harass buses of minor children from Latin America.

Illinidiva on July 23, 2014 at 4:00 PM

What part of illegal do you not understand, you drunken sot?

bimmcorp on July 23, 2014 at 4:13 PM

Paul Ryan

How’s that?

jake-the-goose on July 23, 2014 at 3:13 PM

Actually none of those quotes were memorable at all, and I guarantee not a single other person on here remembers any of them

Ryan did have one memorable quote actually at the RNC I think:

“College graduates should not have to live out their 20’s in their childhood bedrooms, staring up at fading Obama posters and wondering when they can move out and get going with life”

That was about the only memorable thing he did/said the whole campaign

His career ended with that pathetic debate performance

thurman on July 23, 2014 at 4:26 PM

Ryan is the smartest guy in the party…too smart with zero charisma

He can’t win a national election. Sad, but true

And he did allow Biden to run away in the stupid debate.

Redford on July 23, 2014 at 4:28 PM

What part of illegal do you not understand, you drunken sot?

bimmcorp on July 23, 2014 at 4:13 PM

That is your excuse as to why it is okay to harass and scare children?

Illinidiva on July 23, 2014 at 4:36 PM

Is his book tour sponsored by Goldman Sachs? This guy is supposedly the “smart kind of Republican” yet when the GOP could have used some of his “bookish” smarts or conservatism he was begging for the passage of TARP.

JQA on July 23, 2014 at 4:37 PM

Ryan is the smartest guy in the party…too smart with zero charisma
Redford on July 23, 2014 at 4:28 PM

How did this “Paul Ryan is so smart” line start? I haven’t seen any evidence of his supposed superior intelligence.

bluegill on July 23, 2014 at 4:37 PM

Ryan is the smartest guy in the party…too smart with zero charisma
Redford on July 23, 2014 at 4:28 PM

How did this “Paul Ryan is so smart” line start? I haven’t seen any evidence of his supposed superior intelligence.

bluegill on July 23, 2014 at 4:37 PM

The same way Biden was a “foreign policy expert.” These folks are smart within the D.C. bubble, anointed by the Beltway media. It’s a ruling class thing.

You have to understand that Washington D.C. is a bizarro world in which people who lack even basic skills and intellectual abilities thrive and make millions. Welcome to the Machine.

JQA on July 23, 2014 at 4:41 PM

Norfolknway ! ! !

Nat George on July 23, 2014 at 4:43 PM

That is your excuse as to why it is okay to harass and scare children?
Illinidiva on July 23, 2014 at 4:36 PM

This kind of laughable, pathetic, dishonest smear from Illinidiva really shows how desperate the pro-amnesty people are.

85% of the illegals are not children. How ridiculous to call a desire to enforce immigration law and to secure the border “scaring children.”

Where is the concern for Americans who are victims of the illegal alien invasion?

I bet this 93 year old woman, who was raped and murdered by one of the illegal alien so-called “children,” was very scared at the end of her life. But her fear isn’t important, right?
http://www.ketv.com/news/update-93-year-old-woman-dies-after-attack-sexual-assault-in-home/21142340

bluegill on July 23, 2014 at 4:45 PM

I believe that 2012 was politically a tipping point for Republican candidates. I don’t think a Republican will ever be elected again.

2012 was the embodiment of the “Santa Claus” campaign with the Democrats promising everything to everybody. It worked, just promise the majority of the voting illiterates of our country whatever they demand and unlike the bread and circuses of the Romans Democrats don’t even have to substantially deliver; a few more free cellphones, expand the items that can be purchased on food stamps and you’re good to go.

I think the Executive office is lost to Republicans for decades if not forever, I just hope the Republicans can get tough enough to take and hold the House and Senate, and even that that hope is fleeting.

E9RET on July 23, 2014 at 4:46 PM

That is your excuse as to why it is okay to harass and scare children?

Illinidiva on July 23, 2014 at 4:36 PM

Bull shlt, ‘lady’…Most of the illegals are older and many are members of MS13. Our Texas jails are full of the scum. And they are hardly harassed or scared.

The illegals need to be rounded up and sent right back where they came from. Period. I do not care how old or how askeered the little varmints are, either. They made it through the badlands of meheeco just fine. They’ll be just fine on the bus back home.

Take you bleeding heart liberalism and stick it, booze-breath.

bimmcorp on July 23, 2014 at 4:51 PM

I believe that 2012 was politically a tipping point for Republican candidates. I don’t think a Republican will ever be elected again.

2012 was the embodiment of the “Santa Claus” campaign with the Democrats promising everything to everybody. It worked, just promise the majority of the voting illiterates of our country whatever they demand and unlike the bread and circuses of the Romans Democrats don’t even have to substantially deliver; a few more free cellphones, expand the items that can be purchased on food stamps and you’re good to go.

I think the Executive office is lost to Republicans for decades if not forever, I just hope the Republicans can get tough enough to take and hold the House and Senate, and even that that hope is fleeting.

E9RET on July 23, 2014 at 4:46 PM

You may be right. The issue is the urban areas versus the rural areas. Take a look at the Philadelphia suburbs which has not been won since HW Bush.

JQA on July 23, 2014 at 4:59 PM

Illinidiva on July 23, 2014 at 4:36 PM

bimmcorp on July 23, 2014 at 4:51 PM

Illinidiva – you have just been hammered by a Keyboard Tough Guy.

It’s incredible the rhetoric people will use when they don’t have to face and speak to someone. Keyboard strength – is a weakness to be sure.

I have been guilty of it myself.

We can do better.

jake-the-goose on July 23, 2014 at 5:00 PM

It’s incredible the rhetoric people will use when they don’t have to face and speak to someone. Keyboard strength – is a weakness to be sure.

jake-the-goose on July 23, 2014 at 5:00 PM

Sweetheart, I moderate my comments on here. Face-to-face I would have no problem using a lot more colorful language to describe your sickening support for illegal alien amnesty.

bluegill on July 23, 2014 at 5:05 PM

Sweetheart, I moderate my comments on here. Face-to-face I would have no problem using a lot more colorful language to describe your sickening support for illegal alien amnesty.

bluegill on July 23, 2014 at 5:05 PM

Somehow – you – I beleive

jake-the-goose on July 23, 2014 at 5:08 PM

Paul “Amnesty Now!” Ryan?

Pass the air sickness bag.

DaMav on July 23, 2014 at 5:57 PM

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