Sally Kohn: How can Israel supporters argue the IDF’s violence is justified, but Hamas’ isn’t?

posted at 10:01 pm on July 22, 2014 by Guy Benson

I now present to you my Twitter exchange with progressive pundit Sally Kohn,* sans commentary:

Her rebuttal, as of this writing? Crickets.  Maybe she’ll eventually enlighten us with additional insights into the moral pillars of her faith.  And maybe those who read the above conversation will consider the state of Ms. Kohn’s moral compass when judging her counsel on other matters.

 

*Disclosure: I’ve met Sally on a number of occasions and have found her to be funny and delightful.  She’s dead wrong about virtually everything, though, and this level of sophistic “analysis” belies a disappointing intellectual shallowness that I struggle to reconcile with her in-person charm.  Oh well.

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Because Israel Hamas has no qualms at all about killing using a hundred civies to get shield one terrorist. That’s why they shell hide weapons in apartment buildings and schools rather than take out the enemy with snipers and commando raids. They quite simply don’t give a rip about dead palestinian kids. On the contrary too often they go out of their way to murder kids, and then the Israeli court system leftist opinion always rules “not guilty.”

There seem to be no case of blatant murder sufficient to get an Israeli court leftist opinion to rule against a member of the IDF Hamas, or to get an american righty lefty to acknowledge that Israel Hamas has never had the moral high ground.

Tlaloc on July 23, 2014 at 7:36 PM

Fixed

corkie on July 23, 2014 at 10:27 PM

She is dumb enough to work for Obama as head of a Department!

The PALASTINIANS ARE the garbage of the middle east – no one wants them

Syria, JOrdan, Egypt, Saudi all think they are crap!

they don’t work, they cheat,they steal and they lie!

Israel helped them until Arafat came along and started bombing Israeli pizza parlors and busses.

HOW many cease fires have they broken?

and Obama and the UN want more cease fires – F em

Obamatrix on July 23, 2014 at 10:28 PM

If they can exist without murdering children why do they keep murdering children?

Tlaloc on July 23, 2014 at 7:40 PM

Why does Obama keep murdering children with his drone strikes? Why does Hama keep trying to murder children with rocket attacks. Do you ever ask yourself honest questions?

corkie on July 23, 2014 at 10:29 PM

Just so I’m clear, is your disagreement with me based on the fact that

Now I know I’m up against some ‘I support Israel so so so so much that I say nuke ‘em all!’ and ‘You love Hamas!!’ types.
But my point – which seems to have sent many into fits – is simply that the answer to those questions above is ‘no’.
you feel their should be absolutely zero constraints on how Israel conducts itself – both through military action against and policy dealing with the Palestinians? Do you feel that they should operate with impunity? Are you saying that human rights and moral obligations should be absent from any action they take?
verbaluce on July 23, 2014 at 6:56 PM

Once again, as always, you come with the total dishonesty.

YOU came forth with the claim that “overwhelming force” NEVER worked and that an “iron fist” never worked.

You made no argument about whether or not Israel was or had used “overwhelming force” or was or had used “an iron fist”, you simply made stupid, dishonest, and non-factual assertions that you believe to be intelligent based on your emotions.

You were quickly and completely proven wrong, people cited to tons of historical evidence that overwhelming force does in fact work and that an “iron fist” does in fact work. Nobody argued that Israel “nuke” Gaza or that Israel “rule with an iron fist”. People simply responded to your completely factual, uneducated, ignorant and dishonest “point”.

Rather than admit you said something incredibly stupid (as you always do), you double down by going the dishonest extra mile and now claim that people are arguing that there be “no constraints” on Israel and that Israel should “nuke them all”.

Once again, as always, I ask – why can’t you ever engage in honest debate about anything? If you had a position that you believe was correct, you would argue it based on facts and logic. That you always lie must tell you that you are wrong on the substance.

You say incredibly dishonest and stupid things such as:

you feel their should be absolutely zero constraints on how Israel conducts itself

Nobody argued for “no constraints”. What people pointed out, correctly, is that a) the constraints leftist anti-Semites such as yourself seek to impose on Israel are stupid and do not have any historical support. You seek to impose unrealistic constraints such as “proportionality”, implying that Israel is only allowed to kill as many terrorists from Hamas as Hamas successfully kills Jews. We are not against the idea of reasonable constraints (for instance, don’t bomb a hospital if Hamas is not using that Hospital to house missiles, etc., would be a reasonable constraint. Telling Israel that they cannot bomb “x” location because Hamas is purposefully using women to shield its missile launchers is not a reasonable constraint)

Do you feel that they should operate with impunity?

See all of the above points as to why this is, once again, a dishonest straw-man from you.

Are you saying that human rights and moral obligations should be absent from any action they take?

See all of the above points as to why this is, once again, a dishonest straw-man from you.

In sum, you said something so completely idiotic and objectively untrue(overwhelming force never works) and were taken down so badly, that you are left, once again, with trying to cover your tracks with dishonest straw-men. You make idiotic claims saying they are our arguments, when you know that not to be true.

So, again, in what world can you believe you are correct on the substance when you are completely and utterly unable to do anything but lie each time you comment?

I know you won’t respond with anything resembling honesty, because you never do.

But, at least admit that you are entirely ignorant of history as proven by your comment that “overwhelming force never works”.

Monkeytoe on July 24, 2014 at 9:20 AM

If they can exist without murdering children why do they keep murdering children?

Tlaloc on July 23, 2014 at 7:40 PM

As always, dishonest and stupid.

Monkeytoe on July 24, 2014 at 9:21 AM

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