Kerry lands in Cairo as Hamas, Israel refuse cease fire

posted at 8:41 am on July 22, 2014 by Ed Morrissey

John Kerry’s back in Cairo, but the Egyptians don’t appear to be thrilled to have him as a guest. The US Secretary of State got held up in this notable break from protocol while entering the presidential palace to meet President al-Sisi:

Kerry returned to Egypt to press forward on a cease fire in Gaza that neither of the combatants want at the moment. Hamas refuses to accept Egypt’s terms, which amount to a total loss. Israel, now that it’s been forced into a ground campaign, wants to destroy the tunnel system used by Hamas to attack Israel before finishing its operations:

The Islamist militant organization Hamas said Monday that it would not agree to a cease-fire with Israel until its demands were met, as Israel warned that its incursion into the Gaza Strip could continue for days or even weeks.

The stark assessments offered little hope for quick progress toward ending a 14-day-old conflict that has inflicted heavy costs on each side.

Seven more Israeli soldiers were killed in fierce fighting Monday, bringing the Israeli military toll to 27 dead, more than twice as many as in Israel’s last Gaza ground incursion in 2009 and the highest toll since Israel’s war with Lebanon in 2006. Two Israeli civilians have died in the conflict.

More than 560 people in Gaza, many of them women and children, have been killed since Israel’s Operation Protective Edge began.

Israeli Defense Minister Moshe Yaalon said the Gaza military operation, which is now focused on finding and destroying underground tunnels, would continue “as long as necessary until the completion of the task and the return of the quiet in the whole of Israel.”

Kerry eventually wants to go to Israel to discuss a cease-fire with the Netanyahu government, but the Israelis warn that Kerry will get the same friendly treatment he just received in Cairo should he arrive:

On Sunday, the top American diplomat sparked controversy when he inadvertently was recorded talking to aide and questioned the “pinpoint” accuracy of Israel’s military operations in Gaza.

A former Israeli ambassador to Washington, Michael Oren, told Israeli television Monday that Mr. Netanyahu’s government had “not invited” Mr. Kerry to try and broker a cease-fire. …

A senior administration official said the U.S. believed Israel was generally on board with an immediate cease-fire because Mr. Netanyahu indicated as much in his conversations with Mr. Obama and Mr. Kerry, and Israel supported the Egypt proposal last week.

Israel will support a new proposal, the U.S. believes, if leaders feels there is a diplomatic solution that addresses their concerns about ending rocket fire from Hamas.

Don’t bet on it. The ground incursion has changed the calculation, especially with the loss of IDF personnel and the attempts by Hamas to infiltrate Israel through the tunnels. Israel has the justification of the war Hamas provoked and prolonged to go after the tunnels and greatly reduce the capabilities of Hamas in Gaza. That opportunity will not arise again soon. Now that the operation is under way, Israel at least wants to destroy the tunnels that go under Gaza’s borders. And as long as Hamas keeps firing missiles and using those tunnels to conduct attacks, they have no reason to stop.

One former State Department official tells CNN the same thing:

Talks should focus on a return to the cease-fire deal that stopped the conflict between Israel and Hamas in November 2012, the President said at the White House. “We don’t want to see any more” civilian deaths in Gaza or Israel, he said.

But some observers say the chances of a breakthrough remain slim.

“It is going to be very difficult to get a cease-fire right now, you see the objectives of both sides have changed a little bit over the last few days,” said David Tafuri, a former U.S. State Department and U.N. official

“Hamas is now using tunnels to make ground attacks in Israel — clearly they feel like they haven’t done enough damage with the rockets,” said Tafuri, who now works for the law and lobbying firm Patton Boggs. “Israel is now focused on destroying those tunnels. Israel says it needs more time to get all of the tunnels.”

Tzipi Livni, the Justice Minister from Netanyahu’s leftward opposition, also dismissed the idea of a cease-fire now:

Justice Minister Tzipi Livni dismissed on Tuesday the possibility of an imminent halt in fighting between Israel and Hamas in Gaza, adding that the IDF ground incursion in the Strip was impossible to avoid.

“There is no real option for a cease-fire now. This operation is unavoidable,” the left-wing minister told Army Radio.

“Hamas is not close to a cease-fire in terms of its conditions,” she added. “Its [Hamas's] conditions are not conditions that are accepted – not by us, not by the Egyptians, not by the Americans, not by the Palestinian Authority and I’m certain that Israel will not agree.”

At the same time as it tracks down the tunnel systems, the IDF is still on a search-and-destroy mission for Hamas’ rocket batteries. Josh Rogin reported yesterday that the UN made that a little more difficult last week:

When 20 rockets were discovered last week in a U.N.-funded school in Gaza, the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees was quick to condemn the storage of weapons of war in a building meant to educate children.

But rather than turn them over to a third party, or arrange for their disposal, the agency, known as UNRWA, handed them over to the local police force, which was established by Hamas, and is believed to be under the militant group’s control. In other words, the supposedly neutral agency may have given weapons to one of the combatants in a conflict that has claimed more than 360 lives in the past two weeks.

“We are examining what happened with these rockets. If UNRWA did pass it to Hamas it strongly harms [UNRWA’s] credibility and impartiality,” an Israeli official told The Daily Beast.

UNRWA spokesman Chris Gunness told The Daily Beast on Sunday that after finding the rockets on July 17 in a vacant UNRWA school in Gaza, the organization contacted the local police bomb squad, which came and took the rockets away. Gunness said he didn’t see an issue with the handover, because the local authorities who took control of the rockets reported to the Palestinian government in Ramallah, not to Hamas, which heads the government and runs the police force in Gaza.

“According to longstanding UN practice in UN humanitarian operations worldwide, incidents involving unexploded ordnance that could endanger beneficiaries and staff are referred to the local authorities,” Gunness told The Daily Beast in a statement. “Local authorities fall under the government of national consensus in Ramallah. They pledged to pass a message to all parties not to violate UNRWA neutrality.”

Be sure to read it all. Ramallah’s writ hasn’t run in Gaza for years, thanks to the Hamas takeover that occurred shortly after the Israeli withdrawal under Ariel Sharon. Furthermore, the UN had other options, albeit necessarily limited, short of handing over the missiles back to Hamas-linked police forces. If the UN wants to be seen as an honest broker, it might want to refrain from rearming one of the combatants, especially after having its facilities exploited and staff put in danger by that very organization.


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With Kerry on the scene providing diplomacy World War III might break out.

ConstantineXI on July 22, 2014 at 8:44 AM

Maybes al Sisi doesn’t trust Kerry,…I mean Team Hopey!!!

canopfor on July 22, 2014 at 8:44 AM

This doesn’t happen often – Secretary Kerry got wanded by an Egyptian security officer on his way into the presidential palace here

They probably wanted to make sure he wasn’t one of those exploding donkeys.

Flange on July 22, 2014 at 8:44 AM

Hmmmmm,…….Jewish Bears,….interesting:

Haaretz.com @haaretzcom · 6m

From grizzly bears to Gaza rockets: Alaskan Jews head to Israel http://dlvr.it/6P469s

http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/jewish-world-news/1.606612?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Israeli-Palestinian conflict
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US Secretary of State John Kerry and Egyptian President Sisi meet in Cairo to discuss the situation in Gaza – @haaretzcom
End of alert

canopfor on July 22, 2014 at 8:46 AM

Did he bring his wetsuit and windsurfing board? If so, the trip won’t be a total waste from Kerry’s point of view.

Fenris on July 22, 2014 at 8:48 AM

Kerry brought greetings to Egypt’s leaders from his boss, Barry O, the Muslim Brotherhood loving leader of the USA….

albill on July 22, 2014 at 8:49 AM

Kerry brought greetings to Egypt’s leaders from his boss, Barry O, the Muslim Brotherhood loving leader of the USA….

albill on July 22, 2014 at 8:49 AM

Don’t forget, one of Obama’s seemingly endless number of half brothers is the chief US fundraiser for the muzzie bros.

ConstantineXI on July 22, 2014 at 8:51 AM

MeanWhile,…………………..:

https://twitter.com/markknoller

Mark Knoller @markknoller · 1m

This afternoon Pres Obama embarks on a 3-day Dem fundraising trip that takes him to 6 events in Seattle, San Francisco and Los Angeles.

canopfor on July 22, 2014 at 8:51 AM

The Egyptians rightly don’t see Ketchup Boy or his boss as honest brokers – after all, they’ve been agitating for the return of the Muslim Brotherhood.

As for the UN, they’ve exposed themselves as partisans. Prediction – sometime before 2017, the UN “Security” Council will call for the elimination of Israel.

Steve Eggleston on July 22, 2014 at 8:52 AM

Why should the Egyptians trust Kerry? We, as Americans, don’t trust him.

DAT60A3 on July 22, 2014 at 8:53 AM

https://twitter.com/IDFSpokesperson

http://www.idfblog.com/blog/2014/07/18/live-updates-ground-operation-gaza/

Since the beginning of Operation Protective Edge more than 1,790 rockets have been fired from Gaza at Israel.

Tuesday, July 22

10:50 AM: A vehicle carrying seven soldiers was attacked on July 20. Six of their bodies have been identified and efforts to identify the 7th soldier are ongoing.

10:02 AM: Rocket sirens in Tel Aviv.

9:25 AM: The Iron Dome missile defense system intercepted 7 rockets above Ashdod.

6:00 AM: The IDF confirms that yesterday, Sgt. First Class Oded Ben Sira was killed on the battlefield defending the citizens of Israel. May his memory be blessed.

3:28 AM: Four rockets were fired from Gaza towards Be’er Sheva. One was intercepted by Iron Dome and three hit open areas.

1:48 AM: A rocket fired from Gaza hit an open area near Kafr Qasim in central Israel, nearly 100 km from Gaza.

1:35 AM: A Palestinian terrorist shot and severely injured an Israeli civilian in Judea and Samaria. IDF Forces are searching the area.

canopfor on July 22, 2014 at 8:53 AM

Retweeted by IDF
Nick Casey @caseysjournal · 17h

You have to wonder w the shelling how patients at Shifa hospital feel as Hamas uses it as a safe place to see media

https://twitter.com/caseysjournal/status/491282354778816512/photo/1

IDF @IDFSpokesperson · 1m

We caught Hamas terrorists using an ambulance to travel in Gaza http://youtu.be/7O114V9PdmM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7O114V9PdmM&feature=youtu.be

canopfor on July 22, 2014 at 8:55 AM

According to the Times of Israel, there is an Israeli soldier missing in Gaza. He was in the same vehicle as six other soldiers who were killed, so it is likely he was too, but his body has not been recovered. Hamas says they have him.

One of the remains of the six soldiers (one of the US citizen lone soldiers) were of such that the remains were not buried in the usual shroud, but in a wooden coffin – sad evidence there wasn’t much to bury.

This may be why they haven’t recovered the seventh body – there may be little left of the poor man.

Wethal on July 22, 2014 at 8:59 AM

…As for the UN, they’ve exposed themselves as partisans. Prediction – sometime before 2017, the UN “Security” Council will call for the elimination of Israel.

Steve Eggleston on July 22, 2014 at 8:52 AM

They won’t be so blatant. Open borders will have the same effect, and the sheeple portion of the population will go along with that, where they wouldn’t without outright calls for elimination.

Fenris on July 22, 2014 at 8:59 AM

Israeli-Palestinian conflict
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Israel’s army confirms it has fired warning shots at Al Jazeera’s office in Gaza – @davidpoort

Israeli-Palestinian conflict
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Humanitarian cease-fire not on the agenda right now, senior Israeli officials says – @BarakRavid via @haaretzcom

Israeli-Palestinian conflict
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US Secretary of State John Kerry announces US is providing $47 million to help address humanitarian situation in Gaza – via @NBCNews

canopfor on July 22, 2014 at 9:00 AM

Kerry eventually wants to go to Israel to discuss a cease-fire with the Netanyahu government, but the Israelis warn that Kerry will get the same friendly treatment he just received in Cairo should he arrive:

Anybody who saw Special Report last night knows that this is a fool’s errand even bigger than the horse-faced fool sent by Obama. Israel says a cease fire starts with neutering Hamas’s ability to fire missiles at civilian targets. Hamas says a cease fire starts with the Jews being driven into the sea. So….. it is hard to see where Kerry is finding this common ground to start negotiating between the Israelis and the terrorists.

Kerry got wanded to send a message- Why the hell are you here?

Happy Nomad on July 22, 2014 at 9:00 AM

This doesn’t happen often – Secretary Kerry got wanded by an Egyptian security officer on his way into the presidential palace here

Quite likely the security officer had been provided with pictures of the American delegation; however the photos of Kerry were pre-botox.

The guard clearly acted on the assumption that this man was an impostor (which of course he was, but only in that Kerry is play-acting being Secretary of State).

Dolce Far Niente on July 22, 2014 at 9:01 AM

BTW- Don’t think it is coincidence that Kerry is off on an uninvited mission to broker peace ahead of Obama going off and sucking even more money down from rich Jews in California. Obama may hate Jews but he sure knows how to pander to them and they are stupid enough to buy the lie.

Happy Nomad on July 22, 2014 at 9:02 AM

The Palestinians might load him up with explosives for a terror attack.

abobo on July 22, 2014 at 9:03 AM

http://www.breakingnews.com/topic/gaza-ps/

Gaza, PS
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‘We support Israel’s right to self-defense’ John Kerry tells news conference in Cairo – live video
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Israeli-Palestinian conflict
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US Secretary of State John Kerry says it is clear that there is a framework available for ending the Israeli-Palestinian violence – live video
End of alert

canopfor on July 22, 2014 at 9:03 AM

Well DUH:

Mark Knoller @markknoller · 9s

Pres Obama has taken some political heat from Republicans & Democrats for his fundraising trip last week during crises in Ukraine & Gaza.

canopfor on July 22, 2014 at 9:05 AM

Pres Obama has taken some political heat from Republicans & Democrats for his fundraising trip last week during crises in Ukraine & Gaza.

canopfor on July 22, 2014 at 9:05 AM

Why do you think that he canceled on Kimmel? He’s still going to California to fundraise but he isn’t going to do late night. These are the sacrifices the nation asks of Obama. Not to mention only two weeks at the Vineyard.

Happy Nomad on July 22, 2014 at 9:08 AM

Gunness said he didn’t see an issue with the handover, because the local authorities who took control of the rockets reported to the Palestinian government in Ramallah, not to Hamas, which heads the government and runs the police force in Gaza.

The UN’s entry for “Joke of the Year”

mankai on July 22, 2014 at 9:09 AM

Please, please Israelis, wand Kerry before he’s allowed into any government building. Just for the fun of it.

Wethal on July 22, 2014 at 9:10 AM

If there is a situation so tangled up and bad that it seems it just can’t get any worse, the call goes out to send in Kerry, the worker of miracles, the savior of Syria, the cretin of Crimea, the gaffer of Gaza. And somehow, against all odds, things do get worse.

~~~

Send in the clowns
There ought to be clowns
Send in the clowns
Don’t bother, they’re here

Adjoran on July 22, 2014 at 9:11 AM

Next time they’ll make him use the back door and wait till Al-Sisi finishes his nap.

Karma is an evil partner.

BobMbx on July 22, 2014 at 9:11 AM

Pres Obama has taken some political heat from Republicans & Democrats for his fundraising trip last week during crises in Ukraine & Gaza.

canopfor on July 22, 2014 at 9:05 AM

Why do you think that he canceled on Kimmel? He’s still going to California to fundraise but he isn’t going to do late night. These are the sacrifices the nation asks of Obama. Not to mention only two weeks at the Vineyard.

Happy Nomad on July 22, 2014 at 9:08 AM

Obama is fundraising for who??? The democrats or himself??
I doubt other democrats will ever see any of that money.
It’s more like a pre-retirement ripoff operation…..
People giving money at these events are the real idiots.

redguy on July 22, 2014 at 9:18 AM

It only encourages Hamas in both the short term and long term to have the US or any country asking for a ceasefire. If Hamas does not publicly make it known that they are getting their azz whupped and request a ceasefire, then no should do it for them.

Aplombed on July 22, 2014 at 9:22 AM

Who went with him to wear the official “I’m with Stupid” shirt?

CurtZHP on July 22, 2014 at 9:23 AM

The Obama administration has all but accused Egypt of collaborating with Israel on Hamas policy, so his visit to Cairo must be in hopes of trying to get some daylight between Egypt and Israel. Hahaha– too bad the Obama administration already so thoroughly screwed up our alliance with Egypt! What a disaster this administration has proven to be; so bad they cannot even pressure friendly countries!

I love that Egyptian security wanded the horse-man. Treating Kerry as a security risk is a perfect symbol of how far this relationship has fallen.

MTF on July 22, 2014 at 9:25 AM

Give Hamas the Genghis Khan speech that jump started your career, Lurch. That will impress them to no end.

Deano1952 on July 22, 2014 at 9:26 AM

Gaza, PS
5m
Hamas should seek negotiations to end Gaza fighting based on Egyptian cease-fire proposal, Kerry says – @Reuters

canopfor on July 22, 2014 at 9:28 AM

Send in the clowns
There ought to be clowns
Send in the clowns
Don’t bother, they’re here

Adjoran on July 22, 2014 at 9:11 AM

The Obama administration theme song.

talkingpoints on July 22, 2014 at 9:29 AM

Hamas delenda est.

Throat Wobbler Mangrove on July 22, 2014 at 9:29 AM

Here in Europe there is overwhelming support for the Palestinians, not because of the righteousness of their cause but for the realization they know Israel will not bother them.

celtic warrior on July 22, 2014 at 9:38 AM

canopfor on July 22, 2014 at 9:05 AM

Why do you think that he canceled on Kimmel? He’s still going to California to fundraise but he isn’t going to do late night. These are the sacrifices the nation asks of Obama. Not to mention only two weeks at the Vineyard.

Happy Nomad on July 22, 2014 at 9:08 AM

Happy Nomad: Cancelling Kimmel, I think they might think, it’ll
look bad to the American people, even tho, the WH
could care less:)

canopfor on July 22, 2014 at 9:38 AM

This doesn’t happen often – Secretary Kerry got wanded by an Egyptian security officer on his way into the presidential palace here

It was a skeletal wand – searching for a spine.

karra on July 22, 2014 at 9:50 AM

https://twitter.com/APDiploWriter

Matt Lee @APDiploWriter · 13m

“Raiders of the Lost Protocol” RT @ShibleyTelhami: Highly unusual: “#SecKerry checked by #Egypt security at palace” http://reut.rs/1p9Rs5S
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Kerry, aides checked by security at Egyptian presidential palace

CAIRO Tue Jul 22, 2014 7:56am EDT
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(Reuters) – Egyptian security officers checked U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry and his top aides with a metal detector as they arrived for a meeting on Tuesday with President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi, an unusual screening for a senior State Department official.

Foreign officials usually extend every courtesy to Washington’s top diplomat.

Footage taken at the Egyptian presidential palace and seen by Reuters showed an official briefly raising a handheld metal-detecting wand to the lower part of Kerry’s jacket before waving him through for the meeting, which is to discuss how to stop the two-week conflict between Hamas and Israel in the Gaza Strip.

More than 500 people, the vast majority Palestinians, have died in the fighting.

Kerry appeared for only a few seconds in the footage, which showed his senior aides walking through a stationary metal detector and being checked with a handheld wand. At least one was asked to empty his pockets.

The aides included Kerry’s deputy chief of staff Jonathan Finer, senior adviser David Thorne and spokeswoman Jen Psaki.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/22/us-egypt-usa-kerry-security-idUSKBN0FR15V20140722

https://twitter.com/statedeptspox

canopfor on July 22, 2014 at 9:52 AM

One of these days I want to see Israel tell the world “Eff you and effin cease fires. We’re crushing the bastards this time”.

There will be no peace until every one of the islamo-nazis are killed or scattered to the winds and their sponsor states destroyed. That’s what it took to end German fascism and its what its going to take to end the Arab’s.

RobertE on July 22, 2014 at 9:54 AM

https://twitter.com/ShibleyTelhami

Shibley Telhami @ShibleyTelhami · 55m

In Cairo news conference, Kerry refuses to take questions “because efforts are still under way.” Nothing new was announced on #Gaza.

canopfor on July 22, 2014 at 9:55 AM


https://twitter.com/APDiploWriter

Matt Lee @APDiploWriter · 39s

Bibi compares Hamas to al-Qaida, Boko Haram, ISIS, Hezbollah; says they all harbor “unresolvable grievances.” #Israel #Palestinians

canopfor on July 22, 2014 at 9:57 AM

Here in Europe there is overwhelming support for the Palestinians, not because of the righteousness of their cause but for the realization they know Israel will not bother them.

celtic warrior on July 22, 2014 at 9:38 AM

Well that and the Europe being over-run by Muslims thing.

Happy Nomad on July 22, 2014 at 9:57 AM

Happy Nomad: Cancelling Kimmel, I think they might think, it’ll
look bad to the American people, even tho, the WH
could care less:)

canopfor on July 22, 2014 at 9:38 AM

Yeah but no way are they going to cancel the royal vacation to Martha’s Vineyard. That would rile the Yeti and you do that at your own peril. She couldn’t even wait starting her vacation for two hours so the taxpayer could save a few hundred thousand on air costs getting the filthy disgusting family to whatever palatial estate they managed to mooch that year. And God forbid that the dog was left behind when the Air Force has perfectly good V-22s sitting around.

Happy Nomad on July 22, 2014 at 10:01 AM

MeanWhile,…………………..:

https://twitter.com/markknoller

Mark Knoller @markknoller · 1m

This afternoon Pres Obama embarks on a 3-day Dem fundraising trip that takes him to 6 events in Seattle, San Francisco and Los Angeles.

canopfor on July 22, 2014 at 8:51 AM

Mooch will be collecting money in Chicago tomorrow. Think she’ll mention the 40 shot there over the weekend? Maybe a few crocodile tears for the 11 year-old girl that died???

WhirledPeas on July 22, 2014 at 10:30 AM

“I am frequently asked if I have visited Israel, whereas yet, it is simply assumed that I have. Well, I don’t travel. I really don’t, and if I did, I probably wouldn’t visit Israel. I remember how it was in 1948 when Israel was being established and all my Jewish friends were ecstatic, I was not. I said: what are we doing? We are establishing ourselves in a ghetto, in a small corner of a vast Muslim sea. The Muslims will never forget nor forgive, and Israel, as long as it exists, will be embattled. I was laughed at, but I was right. I can’t help but feel that the Jews didn’t really have the right to appropriate a territory only because 2000 years ago, people they consider their ancestors, were living there. History moves on and you can’t really turn it back.”

Isaac Asimov

I knew I loved his novels and stories for a reason.

libfreeordie on July 22, 2014 at 10:30 AM

https://twitter.com/WilliamsJon

Israeli-Palestinian conflict
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UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon makes call to Israel and Palestine: ‘Too many Palestinian and Israeli mothers are burying their children’ – @WilliamsJon
see original on twitter.com
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Jon Williams @WilliamsJon · 11m

Ban: “My message to Palestinians & Israelis alike – stop fighting, start talking.” #Gaza

Jon Williams @WilliamsJon · 12m

Ban: Too many Palestinian & Israeli mothers burying their children. #Gaza

Jon Williams @WilliamsJon · 15m

#UNSG Ban: Condemn rocket Hamas attacks. Must stop immediately. No country would accept rockets raining down on cities. #Gaza #Israel

Jon Williams @WilliamsJon · 18m

Netanyahu: We are making every effort to avoid civilian casualties. Hamas holding people of #Gaza hostage – hiding behind them. #Israel

Jon Williams @WilliamsJon · 21m

“We did not seek this escalation” @netanyahu says at news conference with #UN SG Ban Ki-moon. “World must hold Hamas accountable.” #Gaza

canopfor on July 22, 2014 at 10:32 AM

Jon Williams @WilliamsJon · 22m

Kudos to @FirasBBC: attacked by protestor in #Israel live on air @BBCArabic. Remains on air, out of vision! #Gaza https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sso5Fngs3f8&app=desktop

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sso5Fngs3f8&app=desktop

canopfor on July 22, 2014 at 10:34 AM

…Isaac Asimov

I knew I loved his novels and stories for a reason.

libfreeordie on July 22, 2014 at 10:30 AM

I also loved his novels when I was a child.

Fenris on July 22, 2014 at 10:47 AM

One of these days I want to see Israel tell the world “Eff you and effin cease fires. We’re crushing the bastards this time”.
RobertE on July 22, 2014 at 9:54 AM

What’s the difference between Israel saying “eff off” to the world, and an “Obamaphone” recipient bragging about his/her iPhone to people who had to pay for their smart phones themselves? I won’t hold my breath for an answer.

libfreeordie on July 22, 2014 at 10:56 AM

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Delta cancels all flights to Israel indefinitely, citing report of rocket near Tel Aviv airport – @AP
End of alert
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https://twitter.com/AP

The Associated Press @AP · 35s

MORE: A Delta Boeing 747 from New York was heading for Tel Aviv when it turned around and flew to Paris: http://apne.ws/1lqB3px

The Associated Press @AP · now

BREAKING: Delta cancels all flights to Israel indefinitely, cites report of rocket near Tel Aviv airport.

canopfor on July 22, 2014 at 11:15 AM

Israeli-Palestinian conflict
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More: A Delta Boeing 747 from New York was flying over the Mediterranean headed for Tel Aviv when it turned around and flew to Paris instead over missile fear – @AP

canopfor on July 22, 2014 at 11:18 AM

Israeli-Palestinian conflict
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Report: American Airlines says it is meeting to discuss flights in and out of Tel Aviv – @NBCNews

canopfor on July 22, 2014 at 11:18 AM

Lurch is the Rodney Dangerfield of foreign policy.

formwiz on July 22, 2014 at 11:21 AM

Kerry should consider himself lucky that no one, the Egyptians, the Israeli’s, the Libyan’s, no one, shot him down.
Now, he should take a tour of the pyramids, and leave, before people change their minds.

Another Drew on July 22, 2014 at 11:33 AM

(in re Isaac Asimov)

I knew I loved his novels and stories for a reason.

libfreeordie on July 22, 2014 at 10:30 AM

On the other hand, I enjoyed his work for many years despite my disagreements with large swaths of his personal and political philosophies.

Please note that the Jews who settled Israel in the beginning, BOUGHT every inch of land they occupied, and it was the British, French, and other Western allies who deeded over additional territory BELONGING TO THE AXIS ALLIES after WW2 — which has always been the prerogative of the winning side.

After all, that is how Russia, Germany, France (check out the wars in the Aquitaine and along the channel), China, and others gained much of their territory. And then there’s that little matter of the English war with the French that settled what became the Canadian boundary, and a little dust-up between Texas and Mexico.

You can’t turn back history.

AesopFan on July 22, 2014 at 11:33 AM

I also loved his novels when I was a child.

Fenris on July 22, 2014 at 10:47 AM

“When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.”

Not that the Great Man himself was childish, of course.
Some of his protagonists are.

AesopFan on July 22, 2014 at 11:37 AM

Kerry brougth 42 millon for the terrorists.

coolr fully approves.

Schadenfreude on July 22, 2014 at 11:50 AM

brougth brought

Schadenfreude on July 22, 2014 at 11:50 AM

I can’t help but feel that the Jews didn’t really have the right to appropriate a territory only because 2000 years ago, people they consider their ancestors, were living there. History moves on and you can’t really turn it back.”

Yet in the same breath, our stereotypically Jew hating fake “professor”, will back the racists at La Raza claiming they should have the Southwest back.

F X Muldoon on July 22, 2014 at 11:56 AM

sraeli-Palestinian conflict
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FAA issues notice prohibiting all US airlines from flying to or from Tel Aviv’s airport for up to 24 hours – @NBCNightlyNews, @themarkberman

canopfor on July 22, 2014 at 12:39 PM

I can’t help but feel that the Jews didn’t really have the right to appropriate a territory only because 2000 years ago, people they consider their ancestors, were living there. History moves on and you can’t really turn it back.”

Yet in the same breath, our stereotypically Jew hating fake “professor”, will back the racists at La Raza claiming they should have the Southwest back.

F X Muldoon on July 22, 2014 at 11:56 AM

√√√√√

slickwillie2001 on July 22, 2014 at 1:08 PM

Ed mentioned Tzipi Livni, the Justice Minister from Netanyahu’s leftward opposition, also dismissed the idea of a cease-fire now:
above.

Breitbart reports that:

For context, it is important to note that Livni is one of the Israeli politicians favored by the far-left American group J Street, which has opposed Israel’s defensive wars in Gaza in the past, and which pulled out of a pro-Israel rally in Boston this week, reportedly after pressure from its members.

Also: Former Israeli ambassador to the U.S. Michael Oren went further on Monday, noting that Kerry had clearly not been invited to the ceasefire talks by Egypt, and that the Obama administration had come to be seen as a hindrance, not a help, in Israel’s diplomatic efforts.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/07/22/Israel-Kerry-Go-Home

We don’t want him either, LOL

bluefox on July 22, 2014 at 2:47 PM