IRS lawyer: By the way, the hard drives of some other employees who dealt with Lois Lerner also crashed

posted at 2:41 pm on July 21, 2014 by Allahpundit

We’ve reached a sufficiently high level of implausibility now, I think, that this story technically qualifies as a news-of-the-weird palate cleanser, not actual news.

Assuming the data isn’t recovered and no one is punished, as seems likely, this is a get-out-of-jail-free card for the next president’s administration, no? If some Democratic Senate oversight committee demands to see e-mails from President Christie’s underlings and the reply comes back that the hard drives were all corrupted, what’s the grounds for complaint?

IRS Deputy Associate Chief Counsel Thomas Kane said in transcribed congressional testimony that more IRS officials experienced computer crashes, bringing the total number of crash victims to “less than 20,” and also said that the agency does not know if the lost emails are still backed up somewhere.

The new round of computer crash victims includes David Fish, who routinely corresponded with Lois Lerner, as well as Lerner subordinate Andy Megosh, Lerner’s technical adviser Justin Lowe, and Cincinnati-based agent Kimberly Kitchens.

Per WaPo, the International Association of Information Technology Asset Managers published a list of six unanswered questions for the IRS’s IT wizards today. Question one:

1.) What happened to the IRS’s IT asset managers who appear to have disappeared at a key juncture?

Ordering the destruction of a hard drive and documenting that process would be handled by trained, certified IT asset managers, according to IAITAM. But the group’s records show that at least three IRS IT asset managers were shuffled out of their positions around the time of the May 2013 inspector general’s report that detailed the agency’s targeting practices.

IAITAM said investigators need to “determine if these in-house IT asset managers were removed from the picture as the IRS email investigation heated up.”

Also, where’s the documentation for all this? If the hard drives were professionally destroyed because they were corrupted beyond repair, there must be an invoice somewhere attesting to that. The hard drives of “less than 20″ employees can’t just conveniently go missing, not at the one federal agency more than any other that demands scrupulous documentation in its interactions with the public.

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Miss Lamar

Schadenfreude on July 21, 2014 at 4:12 PM

I was thinking the same thing last week. When it’s getting harder and harder to take care of your own, why should I be sending my money in to take care of illegals and everything else this corrupt administration wants?

leftamark on July 21, 2014 at 3:18 PM

Because they recently hired over 100,000 armed agents and have been buying up bullets by the planet-load?

HikaruKitsune on July 21, 2014 at 4:15 PM

The hard drives of “less than 20″ employees can’t just conveniently go missing, not at the one federal agency more than any other that demands scrupulous documentation in its interactions with the public.

In this administration, such circumstances are merely COINCIDENCE!

GarandFan on July 21, 2014 at 4:18 PM

We Republicans/Conservatives/Libertarians tried to tell you 0-bots what he was saying, where he said it, where he was going to lead us–heck, we even copied/pasted DIRECT QUOTES IN CONTEXT from his speeches–but would you listen?

NoooOOOooo…and NOW look at the Fine Mess you have us in…

Newtie and the Beauty on July 21, 2014 at 4:19 PM

We Republicans/Conservatives/Libertarians tried to tell you 0-bots what he was saying, where he said it, where he was going to lead us–heck, we even copied/pasted DIRECT QUOTES IN CONTEXT from his speeches–but would you listen?

NoooOOOooo…and NOW look at the Fine Mess you have us in…

Newtie and the Beauty on July 21, 2014 at 4:19 PM

The most important one, his “Civilian Force, just as well funded and armed as any military”.

Which he has done by loading up every single Federal Agency with Armed Agents and SWAT-style Weaponry…

HikaruKitsune on July 21, 2014 at 4:22 PM

They honestly think that we are that d*mn stupid that we can’t see through this?

This is beyond parody.

Gothguy on July 21, 2014 at 2:46 PM

No they don’t. They expect us to see through it. The object is not to simply get away with their criminal corruption, but also to demonstrate to the public that there’s not a damn thing we can do about it.

It’s intended to totally demoralize any opposition to fascist government and force total surrender.

slickwillie2001 on July 21, 2014 at 4:23 PM

Dang, that picture makes her look like Joe Pesci in drag.

DumboTheAvenger on July 21, 2014 at 4:23 PM

Hmmmm… Virus?

Ward Cleaver on July 21, 2014 at 4:24 PM

In this administration, such circumstances are merely COINCIDENCE!

GarandFan on July 21, 2014 at 4:18 PM

“Mr Bond, they have a saying in Chicago: ‘Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it’s enemy action’.”

20+ hard drives and still counting….it’s deliberate action designed to eliminate evidence.

Athos on July 21, 2014 at 4:25 PM

No they don’t. They expect us to see through it. The object is not to simply get away with their criminal corruption, but also to demonstrate to the public that there’s not a damn thing we can do about it.

It’s intended to totally demoralize any opposition to fascist government and force total surrender.

slickwillie2001 on July 21, 2014 at 4:23 PM

As the collective says, ‘Resistance is futile’

Athos on July 21, 2014 at 4:27 PM

The most important one, his “Civilian Force, just as well funded and armed as any military”.
Which he has done by loading up every single Federal Agency with Armed Agents and SWAT-style Weaponry…
HikaruKitsune on July 21, 2014 at 4:22 PM

You have it SO correct, HK…

Newtie and the Beauty on July 21, 2014 at 4:33 PM

SNAFU

crosshugger on July 21, 2014 at 4:39 PM

This government is so corrupt and who outside of this nation would want to move here. We have the values of a 3rd world nation. What do you think of that NED PEPPER? The president usurps power and uses the IRS on his political enemies and thats just the drop in the bucket on what crimes the feds do. Isn’t there a democrat or Gop to speak out against all this?

garydt on July 21, 2014 at 4:42 PM

is the IRS the only govt agency that doesn’t backup its data? emails are not stored locally, these hard drive losses are a distraction. where are the backup tapes of agency email/data?

burserker on July 21, 2014 at 4:49 PM

All I can say is wow.

All I can do is vote, and hope it’s enough.

Oxymoron on July 21, 2014 at 4:50 PM

Lois Lerner is the face of evil with a heart of evil as well. That is what I see when her face is forced in front of me.

FireBlogger on July 21, 2014 at 5:08 PM

All hard drives and all email servers that Lois Lerner ever communicated on have mysteriously crashed and are unrecoverable. And the NSA copies of all of the emails also are unrecoverable. So forget about it.

paulsur on July 21, 2014 at 5:20 PM

When you elect lawyers and not computer scientists to Congress, this is what you get.

corona79 on July 21, 2014 at 5:29 PM

When will people begin to revolt? Never, that’s when, because they’re all so busy and afraid. Cowards.

HiJack on July 21, 2014 at 5:48 PM

Darryl Issa: “The next witness is the IT Director for the IRS. Mr. Director, what happened to Ms. Lerner’s emails?”

IRS IT Director: “Well Mr. Chairman, it’s like this; her hard drive crashed so all her emails for 3 years are completely gone.”

Darryl Issa: “You’re in contempt of Congress and remanded to the House Jail until this matter is resolved. Our next witness is the Deputy IT Director for the IRS. Mr. Deputy Director. What happened to Ms. Lerner’s emails?”

Repeat until the emails turn up.

Russ in OR on July 21, 2014 at 5:49 PM

The IRS is the modern day KGB. They will freeze your assets and have armed agents at your door pronto if you don’t play along.
What can be done?

redshirt on July 21, 2014 at 6:14 PM

This country really is a joke.

Viator on July 21, 2014 at 6:16 PM

If some Democratic Senate oversight committee demands to see e-mails from President Christie’s underlings and the reply comes back that the hard drives were all corrupted,

They will hang him from his balls.

Viator on July 21, 2014 at 6:19 PM

Lois and Barry should be buying some Lotto and scratch off tickets. What are the chances?

CW on July 21, 2014 at 6:19 PM

the dog ate my hard drive.

Sachiko on July 21, 2014 at 2:46 PM

Somebody came up with the term “pooched,” as in “they pooched the hard drive.”

PersonFromPorlock on July 21, 2014 at 6:33 PM

If some Democratic Senate oversight committee demands to see e-mails from President Christie’s underlings and the reply comes back that the hard drives were all corrupted

GOP President, Democrat House, GOP Senate and the IRS loses emails related to the targeting of progressive groups . . .

Every low information voter would know every detail. It would lead every newscast, be mocked savagely by Colbert and the like, movies would come out pronto.

The House would successfully pass impeachment articles and since GOP presidents have way more honor and ethics, plus an entire media against them, the GOP president would resign.

If he didn’t resign, the weak kneed GOP members of the Senate would bow to media pressure and vote to impeach.

But then a GOP president would have been impeached for fast and furious 6 years ago . . .

PastorJon on July 21, 2014 at 6:36 PM

This has gone from

“dog ate my homework”

to

“dog ate my homework, stole the car, drove all over town to my study group members homes, broke in and ate their homework too.”

CapnObvious on July 21, 2014 at 6:39 PM

anyone who refuses to believe that IRS multiple hard drive crashes are not coincidences is:

1 A racist.
2 Going to get a tax audit.

MaiDee on July 21, 2014 at 6:51 PM

So, basically, this woman actually has a face that can stop a hard drive.

trigon on July 21, 2014 at 7:07 PM

For those of you keeping score at home, this now raises the odds against to an astounding 1 10^57. We’re talking about a number so large, it actually eclipses the number of stars in the known Universe, all of it. Yet, equally as astounding, this has received no credible coverage on the alphabet media circuit. Thank goodness for outlets like the Daily Caller to actually report on this stuff.

Let me add something here. With a failure rate of 3.5% per year, per computer, the odds of any specific drive failing during a specific week, are 1 in 1000. The analysis of the odds used are the result of a simple calculation based on the manufacturer’s published parameters. For each computer added, the exponent increases by one. So, when the second specific computer needed went down at the precise moment it was needed, the odds of those two melting down in the manner described by Congressional testimony became 1 in 1000 squared. That’s how we get to where we are, with 19 computers, that’s 1000 raised to the Nineteenth power, enjoy!

I’m positive that on tonight’s or tomorrow’s episode of, “The Five,” either Bob Beckel or Juan Williams will repeat that tired old mantra, “there’s no evidence of any wrongdoing here, computers crash and that doesn’t mean they’re hiding anything.” Talk about a statement that makes me want to literally jump through my television and choke somebody. What more do any of us need.

To put the number 1 followed by 57 zeros in perspective, I’m going to propose the following thought experiment. Let’s pretend, just for the moment, that you have a super dexterous tongue. Your tongue, and jawbone for that matter are capable of counting digits at the same rate that subatomic particles vibrate, which would be 10^20 digits per second. putting aside for the moment the happiness extended to your spouse or significant other, let us further pretend that you’ve been counting since the proverbial big bang, some 20 Billion years ago. No breaks or vacations, no meals, and no sleeping, only counting has filled your time. You still, as of today would not have reached a number as large as 10^57. In fact, you would need to replicate your effort to date another 317 Quintillion times in order to reach your target. (If you wish to see this expressed in exponential form, it is 3.17 x 10^20.) Those are the odds that the IRS has claimed happened in a completely random manner.

Flyovercountry on July 21, 2014 at 7:18 PM

In the olden days when I grew up, this was known as obstruction of justice and was not tolerated. Nowadays, if you believe your lying eyes, you get this…………

1 A racist.
2 Going to get a tax audit.

MaiDee on July 21, 2014 at 6:51 PM

antipc on July 21, 2014 at 7:21 PM

Screw this. The IRS is like a fat king who shoots people for not being skinny enough. Just tell us when the guerrilla war starts in earnest to shut this horrible parasitical excuse for a government agency down.

Aitch748 on July 21, 2014 at 7:30 PM

President Christie

Oh please. NO

cat_owner on July 21, 2014 at 7:30 PM

So, basically, this woman actually has a face that can stop a hard drive.

trigon on July 21, 2014 at 7:07 PM

Not only that, but the mere appearance of an email to or from her causes hard drives to spontaneously crash themselves.

Athos on July 21, 2014 at 7:32 PM

I don’t believe Republicans have held enough money out of the IRS budget. They really need to withhold enough that they have to layoff their whole I.T. department, which has to be the most incompetent IT department on the planet, they have to withhold enough that the IRS will have to make a choice between keeping political operatives or career employees there. They’re going to have to withhold enough so the IRS will only have enough people to do its job and not harass political people.

Once they’re done with that, then they can go to the ATF, FBI, and FEC, and cut their budgets enough so they get the idea they need to stay out of politics. They should then, after all is said and done, impeach Eric Holder. Now, if they do all of that, there could be results from these investigations because I really don’t believe a single word the IRS says about these hard drives and I don’t believe anything the DOJ says about their investigations, and I really don’t believe the DOJ deserves any Presidential protections as applies to Fast and Furious and Benghazi.

bflat879 on July 21, 2014 at 7:36 PM

Anyone else looking at these shifting IRS stories thinking “Monty Python Cheese Shop” sketch?

Sacramento on July 21, 2014 at 7:38 PM

This may be obvious to everyone else, but it just occurred to me. This moves the coverup at least a level or 2 higher up the food chain than Lerner. I wouldn’t think it would be that hard to look at an org chart and figure out the most likely suspects.

Whoever developed and implemented the coverup strategy of destroying the hard drives should spend many, many years in prison. This is the name we need from Lerner. Then that person can be squeezed to find out how much higher it goes.

huckleberryfriend on July 21, 2014 at 7:39 PM

People keep saying to give Lerner immunity, Holder already did that. What we need is someone who was just under her who isn’t married to a wealthy lawyer and can’t afford to lose their job or be bogged down with large legal fees. I really really want someone in jail for this. Obama cannot get away with weaponizing government departments.

Cindy Munford on July 21, 2014 at 7:51 PM

Flyovercountry on July 21, 2014 at 7:18 PM

I’m not sure what you said there but it sounded quite racist. /

Kataklysmic on July 21, 2014 at 7:55 PM

I have some old Bob Newhart and Bill Cosby records that the IRS saga makes sound like documentaries by comparison. “Yes Officer, she was just telling me about it.”

Barnestormer on July 21, 2014 at 7:57 PM

This moves the coverup at least a level or 2 higher up the food chain than Lerner. I wouldn’t think it would be that hard to look at an org chart and figure out the most likely suspects.

huckleberryfriend on July 21, 2014 at 7:39 PM

That would be Nicole Flax, the Chief of Staff to the IRS Commissioner Steven Miller – and one of the possible links to the WH over the deliberate targeting of conservative organizations. The challenge is that her hard drive was one of the one’s that ‘coincidentally’ crashed immediately after the IRS was notified not only of litigation by targeted organizations, but of Congressional inquiries.

As far as I know, none of the House committees investigating the IRS abuses of power have called for Flax to testify again or take the 5th in lieu of testifying under oath.

Flax also, during this timeframe, directed Lerner and other IRS officials that any responses to any questions from conservative organizations, litigants, the press, or Congressional investigators, had to go through her and receive her approval.

She’s neck deep in this, yet for some reason isn’t getting any attention by anyone investigating this case…and far less than Lois Lerner.

Athos on July 21, 2014 at 8:04 PM

The most important one, his “Civilian Force, just as well funded and armed as any military”.
Which he has done by loading up every single Federal Agency with Armed Agents and SWAT-style Weaponry…
HikaruKitsune on July 21, 2014 at 4:22 PM

You have it SO correct, HK…

Newtie and the Beauty on July 21, 2014 at 4:33 PM

And the Brownshirts would still lose.

8 weight on July 21, 2014 at 8:24 PM

I understand that accidents happen. Mistakes happen. Errors happen.

But when every… EVERY! Accident, mistake or error that happens is 100% to the benefit of Prez O’BoutMe, then the covering excuse of accident, mistake and/or error is suspect.

WestTexasBirdDog on July 21, 2014 at 8:38 PM

Assuming the data isn’t recovered and no one is punished, as seems likely, this is a get-out-of-jail-free card for the next president’s administration, no?

Really?

You still have a since of fairness that should have been wiped out long ago.

Republicans don’t own the media. Nothing Republicans do will ever be innocent, even when it is innocent. Nothing will ever be Democrats fault.

That is the reality.

Democrats own everything. Even winning elections is not going to get the Republicans anything.

Watch how the media/Democrats have manipulated Conservatives to knee jerk blame Republicans for what the Democrats do.

Every time, there is corruption, it is never the Democrats who are evil. It is those dastardly Republicans who let them get a way with it. It is such a part of our culture now, that most people don’t even consider that Republicans aren’t at fault for everything. Even among Republicans. Especially among commenters on blogs like Hot Air… always Boehner’s fault, or Issa’s fault.

petunia on July 21, 2014 at 8:45 PM

Federal pensions need to be suspended until this is resolved.

malclave on July 21, 2014 at 8:54 PM

Oddly, I do not find this funny in any sense, at all.

Usually I’m with Allah on the Irony Beat Chart, but not on this one. It infuriates me to no end.

budfox on July 21, 2014 at 9:26 PM

Assuming the data isn’t recovered and no one is punished, as seems likely, this is a get-out-of-jail-free card for the next president’s administration, no?

Really?

You still have a since of fairness that should have been wiped out long ago.

Republicans don’t own the media. Nothing Republicans do will ever be innocent, even when it is innocent. Nothing will ever be Democrats fault.

That is the reality.

Democrats own everything. Even winning elections is not going to get the Republicans anything.

Watch how the media/Democrats have manipulated Conservatives to knee jerk blame Republicans for what the Democrats do.

Every time, there is corruption, it is never the Democrats who are evil. It is those dastardly Republicans who let them get a way with it. It is such a part of our culture now, that most people don’t even consider that Republicans aren’t at fault for everything. Even among Republicans. Especially among commenters on blogs like Hot Air… always Boehner’s fault, or Issa’s fault.

petunia on July 21, 2014 at 8:45 PM

Yeah really? Even if we should win the presidency, the greedy-unions that represent a shadow management structure throughout the federal bureaucracy will remain, and they are hardcore prog Democratics. No hard drives will be mysteriously lost in a Republican administration.

Democratics will impeach a Republican president in a heartbeat, and the liberal media will cheer them on, -good times, just like with Nixon, right? Enough Republicans will go along, because, -you know, “rule of law”, and “we’re better than that” and all.

It will never be the same for a Republican, because we think differently, and Republicans refuse to use Alinsky rules because they think it’s beneath them.

slickwillie2001 on July 21, 2014 at 9:31 PM

If this is all just swept under the carpet like the other scandals, that will signify an unbelievably massive level of rot and corruption in the government. In fact, I think that it might truly signify the end of the republic.

The power wielded by the IRS and those with access to its information is obviously enormous. Perhaps only the military and some letter agencies hold as much inherent power with it’s attendant potential to control and harm citizens. Abuse of any of them that can’t be controlled signifies the end. Damn these people to hell.

justltl on July 21, 2014 at 9:34 PM

Also, where’s the documentation for all this?

It’s with the hard drives, unintentionally destroyed intentionally.

rukiddingme on July 21, 2014 at 9:37 PM

It will never be the same for a Republican, because we think differently, and Republicans refuse to use Alinsky rules because they think it’s beneath them.

slickwillie2001 on July 21, 2014 at 9:31 PM

Republicans refuse to use Alinsky rules against Leftists because they think it’s beneath them but the gopE will use them against conservatives. See Mississippi.

Jayrae on July 21, 2014 at 9:49 PM

petunia on July 21, 2014 at 8:45 PM

True.
Hard to believe, but true.
I myself mainly blame the leftist/liberal Media.
I think that we are about an inch from the Left achieving a virtual dictatorship. That sounds crazy, but how do people think that tyrannical governments arise? People obviously scoff at the idea that it can happen here – and somehow believe that we are magically protected from what has happened repeatedly throughout history elsewhere.
Sadly, people will only begin to wake up when we start getting those real or figurative late night knocks on the door and individuals start to disappear for “transgressions” of one sort or another.

justltl on July 21, 2014 at 9:57 PM

People living under despotic regimes elsewhere at least had a glimmer of hope that the United States, former beacon of freedom, would somehow, someway aid them in their quest for freedom. Who is going to come to the aid of freedom fighters here, should things come to that?
The correct answer is – nobody.

justltl on July 21, 2014 at 10:03 PM

Why are they still allowed to pretend that their laptop/desktop computer is where the emails were stored? All, and I mean all, government email server systems are handled such that the actual email account is stored centrally, while the client computer holds replications. On secure servers (meaning classified material), the client emails are only replicated live on the fly in the email program (Outlook), and never remain on the client drive’s PST file. A client hard drive getting toasted loses NOTHING of the emails for that client’s user account.

Not even a halfway good lie.

Freelancer on July 21, 2014 at 10:04 PM

The only solace that I can find is that the American population is well armed and will at least make life “uncomfortable” for those of the Media and Government responsible for the end of the nation.

justltl on July 21, 2014 at 10:08 PM

The IRS is the modern day KGB. They will freeze your assets and have armed agents at your door pronto if you don’t play along.
What can be done?

redshirt on July 21, 2014 at 6:14 PM

1) Don’t keep your assets in a bank.
2) Don’t let armed agents into your house
3) If they break in, fire away. You’re dead anyway at that point, so you might as well take a few with you.

Harbingeing on July 21, 2014 at 10:15 PM

These are the times that try men’s souls: The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of his country; but he that stands by it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. – Thomas Paine 1776

justltl on July 21, 2014 at 10:18 PM

This is all a distraction. What the American people really want to know is what was on those missing 18 minutes of tape!-DNC

Dr. ZhivBlago on July 21, 2014 at 10:29 PM

Here’s a joke:

Guy asks the IRS how many drives crashed?

IRS says: how many you want to look at?

yuk, yuk, yuk

Here’s another joke:

Guy asks Lerner: How you doing?

Lerner answers: It’s a living

The RINOs and the IRS
excerpted from the new revised jabberwocky

The RINOs and the IRS
Were walking close at hand;
They wept like anything to see
Such quantities of sand:
“If this were only cleared away,”
They said, “it would be grand!”

“O TeaParty, come and walk with us!”
The RINOs did beseech.
“A pleasant walk, a pleasant talk,
Along the briny beach:
We cannot do with more than four,
To give a hand to each.”

“The time has come,” the RINOs said,
“To talk of many things:
Of shoes–and ships–and sealing-wax–
Of cabbages–and kings–
And why the sea is boiling hot–
And whether pigs have wings.”

“It seems a shame,” the RINOs said,
“To play them such a trick,
After we’ve brought them out so far,
And made them trot so quick!”
The IRS said nothing but
“The butter’s spread too thick!”

“I weep for you,” the RINOs said:
“I deeply sympathize.”
With sobs and tears he sorted out
Those of the largest size,
Holding his pocket-handkerchief
Before his streaming eyes.

“O TeaParty,” said the IRS,
“You’ve had a pleasant run!
Shall we be trotting home again?’
But answer came there’s no hard drive–
And this was scarcely odd, because
They’d eaten every one.

epilogue
The eldest TeaPer looked at them,
But never a word he said:
The eldest Teaper winked his eye,
And shook his heavy head–
Meaning to say he did not choose
To believe a single word they said.

entagor on July 21, 2014 at 10:39 PM

Anyone else looking at these shifting IRS stories thinking “Monty Python Cheese Shop” sketch?

Sacramento on July 21, 2014 at 7:38 PM

I’m hoping it ends the same.

Random Numbers (Brian Epps) on July 21, 2014 at 11:05 PM

The most important one, his “Civilian Force, just as well funded and armed as any military”.
Which he has done by loading up every single Federal Agency with Armed Agents and SWAT-style Weaponry…
HikaruKitsune on July 21, 2014 at 4:22 PM

And we really think he’s going to just “step down” in January 2017?

I’m increasingly unsure. The accelerating pace of fiascoes, them giving us the finger with stupid lies like these from the IRS…you have two years or less to prepare for the worst.

Who is John Galt on July 22, 2014 at 12:22 AM

The Fourth Estate is sleeping on this one.

unclesmrgol on July 22, 2014 at 12:47 AM

A virus doesn’t make data unrecoverable. The only way to make data unrecoverable is to physically destroy the hard drive.

NotCoach on July 21, 2014 at 3:14 PM

If it does a successive re-write with at least 7 passes, then it certainly can.

GWB on July 21, 2014 at 3:59 PM

That’s not even necessary. All modern hard drives have firmware that will wipe every bit of data on the hard drive in a single pass. In fact, most computer BIOSes “lock” the hard drive when they start up to prevent that command from being given by mistake or by a virus.

In this case, lock is just a software command to the drive firmware that prevents these commands until the drive is unlocked.

The days of having to wipe a hard drive multiple times with different data streams is past. You can still do that if you want, but it’s probably 20 times faster to just issue the firmware command.

There Goes the Neighborhood on July 22, 2014 at 12:50 AM

All it takes is one person to admit this was intentional. There must be quite a number. I would be getting nervous if I was part of the widening radius of destroyed hard drives.

It screams for Independent Counsel.

J.B. Say on July 22, 2014 at 1:00 AM

Does anyone else besides me suspect that both the Dems as well as the GOPe were happy to have the IRS target the Tea Party groups, and that both sides may have a vested interest in a potential investigation going nowhere?

Also, while I appreciate reading the often funny and snarky comments about the sad state of affairs, it would seem to me that perhaps conservative blogs and their readers should rather try to brainstorm potential solutions. For instance, what would happen if millions of outraged taxpayers were to suddenly revise their W-4 forms, and increase their dependents by one. And since the progressive media will not help with the investigations, how about a brief e-mail “form letter” to their major advertisers, stating you will no longer support their businesses, unless they pressure the media to return to their historical role as the watchdog over government, and then follow through by avoiding their products. Perhaps you could even buy several papers for the price of one from the vending machines, and use them for their best purpose to line your bird cages etc. Does anyone know of an automatic phone “bot” that would send a short pre-recorded message to my Congress critters, that could be automated and sent say q 1 minute (every minute)?

Personally, I would strongly support the “Fair Tax”, as a replacement for the present system, and I feel that a change to that method of taxation would do more than anything to rein in the power and size of big government than any other proposal, short of the tar and feather/pitchfork solution.

tickrdr

tickrdr on July 22, 2014 at 1:33 AM

“Less than 20?”

What? Not 15 or 12 or 18? Sounds like someone is keeping the exact number unknown so that as the need arises another drive can “crash” and be part of that number.

What a fraud. What a stinkin’ fraud.

ProfShadow on July 22, 2014 at 2:19 AM

This is worse than them saying: “we destroyed all the evidence because it would make us look bad…what are YOU going to do about it?” Isn’t there a point where a story is so unbelievable that it’s equivalent to, or worse than an out and out lie? And are any of these statements taken under oath? This takes lying to a never before seen level!

bigGwillie on July 22, 2014 at 2:22 AM

Nothing will happen, Boehner is still crying.

celtic warrior on July 22, 2014 at 2:53 AM

I’m beginning to think that the only way to escape these democrats is to die and go to heaven. I’ll be free of most of them up there.

Mojave Mark on July 22, 2014 at 4:45 AM

By the end of this story, the IRS won’t have any functioning hard drives.

ProfShadow on July 22, 2014 at 4:56 AM

Mojave Mark on July 22, 2014 at 4:45 AM

That’s probably true Mark, but you must remember, many are called but few are chosen.

celtic warrior on July 22, 2014 at 5:00 AM

By the end of this story, the IRS won’t have any functioning hard drives.

ProfShadow on July 22, 2014 at 4:56 AM

…and nobody has to pay taxes. Dude!

ElectricPhase on July 22, 2014 at 6:56 AM

Assuming a one percent failure rate, the chances that 20 hard drives will fail is one in 1 in 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.

Haiku Guy on July 22, 2014 at 7:24 AM

When they kick the computer while it’s running, it’s likely to crash the hard drive.

sadatoni on July 22, 2014 at 8:06 AM

entagor on July 21, 2014 at 10:39 PM

+1 million! Well done sir!

dominigan on July 22, 2014 at 10:02 AM

When they kick the computer while it’s running, it’s likely to crash the hard drive.

sadatoni on July 22, 2014 at 8:06 AM

They’d have to do a whole lot more than kick them. Most drives are shock rated 50+ G’s while operating and 300+ G’s at rest. Here are some sample ratings I found in an article…

DRIVE: operating shock, at-rest shock
Hitachi 7K250: 55 G, 350 G
Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 9: 60 G, 300 G
Seagate Barracuda 7200.9: 63 G, 350 G
Western Digital WD2500JB: 65 G, 350 G

dominigan on July 22, 2014 at 10:07 AM

IRS seeks help destroying another 3,200 hard drives

Days after IRS officials said in a sworn statement that former top agency employee Lois G. Lerner’s computer memory had been wiped clean, the agency put out word to contractors Monday that it needs help to destroy at least another 3,200 hard drives.

The Internal Revenue Service solicitation for “media destruction” services reflects an otherwise routine job to protect sensitive taxpayer information, but it was made while the agency’s record destruction practices remain under a sharp congressional spotlight.

It’s nice to see that the IRS is finally looking towards protecting private taxpayer information, particularly after Lois Lerner sent millions of pages of taxpayer information to the FEC and DoJ – the latter in an attempt to get criminal investigations and prosecutions started against the conservative organizations that were being deliberately and abusively targeted by the IRS 2010-2013.

Of course, it’s just coincidence that as the IRS has a major problem with IT best practices and the convenient coincidence of all of the major players in the IRS abuses of power having hard drive crashes, that the IRS seeks outside assistance to help it destroy additional hard drives.

I wonder how many of these 3200 come from the email servers?

Athos on July 22, 2014 at 12:11 PM

Quit paying taxes to these goons and thugs.

Schadenfreude on July 21, 2014 at 2:44 PM

I was thinking the same thing last week. When it’s getting harder and harder to take care of your own, why should I be sending my money in to take care of illegals and everything else this corrupt administration wants?

leftamark on July 21, 2014 at 3:18 PM

Simple answer for those who can manage — Craigslist for odd jobs all less than $600, and/or barter society.

fred5678 on July 22, 2014 at 12:25 PM

burrata on July 21, 2014 at 2:46 PM

Agreed. President Christie? AP are you mocking us?

Until the taxpayers of this country, myself included, put aside our personal obligations and physically shut down every IRS office in the country this will continue. There is no will in government to fix this at any level. Chain and padlock the doors, and dare the IRS to try and cross the picket lines.

cornbred on July 22, 2014 at 12:51 PM

Does anyone else besides me suspect that both the Dems as well as the GOPe were happy to have the IRS target the Tea Party groups, and that both sides may have a vested interest in a potential investigation going nowhere?

tickrdr on July 22, 2014 at 1:33 AM

Groups were trying to get status before the 2012 election. Apparently complaints had been made to some Republican members of Congress. But Republicans in Congress started making noise after the election.

I may not have the links anymore, but I recall my surprise when
I read a certain Senator said he had received complaints preceding the election. That should have been an election issue. They would have had leverage. At that point I knew they had stiffed the Teapers

Next come key primaries where the Chamber vowed to crush tea party. Again endless hearings. Some groups got approved but notice the IRS still holds such groups suspect. Because no one has been held accountable in the IRS to this day, there is no protection for tea party

We do not know how many new groups might be in IRS limbo and you cannot measure how many people decided not to form registered groups out of fear of the IRS taking apart their business

IMHO this is being used as intimidation to keep the teaper out of coming elections. If they can get their GOP majority, without teaper presence, they can slam dunk amnesty.

For this reason, they are letting Obama flood the nation. And they think with enough new blood, they can kill the tea party

To Romney lovers – the Romney group was involved in changing party rules at the 2012 convention to block grass roots

Here is the letter from Morton Blackwell on what happened. 2012 was a year they really didnt want a convention filled with grass roots teapers

entagor on July 22, 2014 at 5:04 PM

Lerner gets a Nobel Peace Prize and hired by Acorn as Executive Director.

Goodie on July 22, 2014 at 5:54 PM

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