Just another weekend in the gun free zone of Chicago

posted at 2:01 pm on July 20, 2014 by Jazz Shaw

So… how’s that whole gun free zone thing in Chicago working out? Even though they came close to setting a new record over the 4th of July, things in the Windy City aren’t slowing down much. The toll just for Friday afternoon through Saturday morning was impressive in a pretty horrid way.

A 10-year-old girl was shot in the head and critically injured by a stray bullet fired into her home in the Garfield Park neighborhood Friday afternoon, authorities said.

The girl, and another 12-year-old shot in the same neighborhood, are among 22 people shot between about 3:30 p.m. and 3 a.m.

The 10-year-old was shot in the head in the 3900 block of West Gladys Avenue about 9:35 p.m., said Police News Affairs Officer Amina Greer. The girl was taken, initially in critical condition, to Mount Sinai Hospital, according to the Chicago Fire Department, and later was considered in extremely critical condition, according to police. Police said she was brain dead.

If you have the stomach for it, you have to click through to the complete story to get the full sense of just how bad things are. Various victims, singly or in groups of twos and threes, were intentionally attacked or simply caught in the crossfire as collateral damage. The violence ranged from those who died on the spot to “grazing wounds” which required minor treatment. One woman was described as having a non-life-threatening gunshot wound above her right eye. I’m not entirely sure how a shot above the eye winds up being “non-life-threatening” but I’m glad she’s going to be okay.

I thought Rahm Emanuel was supposed to clean up this town, and his various anti-gun ownership moves were going to be a big part of the solution. Or am I misremembering that? In any event, one has to wonder how firmly his supporters are standing behind him, given the results these policies are producing. According to at least one headline, people may be getting fed up with it.

Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel could have his hands full in his reelection campaign if a certain challenger decides to run against him, a new poll released Friday shows.

In a poll commissioned by the Illinois Observer and conducted by Strive Strategies, 40 percent of respondents said they would vote for Cook County Board President Toni Preckwinkle over Emanuel if Preckwinkle opted to run in the 2015 election.

Twenty-eight percent of respondents to the poll of 724 likely voters, which was conducted using robocalls and has a margin of error of 3.49 percent, said they were undecided in the hypothetical showdown of the Democratic lawmakers.

The methodology behind that poll is rather sketchy, so I wouldn’t be betting the farm on it at this point, but it could still wind up being an early indicator. Chicago is in a lot of trouble in a number of areas, but violent crime is certainly at the top of the list for most voters these days. And Rahm’s policies are clearly not working. Will this wake people up to the futility of gun free zones when they are in the middle of a street war or will they just elect a new face with the same liberal policies? Time alone will tell.


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The nuclear smack down closer in any argument with a liberal: Name one of your policies that has ever worked.

They can’t answer, or stammer some non sequitur, or whine that their policies WOULD work, but need more money.

ConstantineXI on July 20, 2014 at 2:03 PM

Is it mostly black on black crime?

OmahaConservative on July 20, 2014 at 2:03 PM

When asked if gun control laws are working in Chicago, Mayor Rahm Emanuel answered candidly: “Of course they’re working! I got elected, didn’t I?”

Socratease on July 20, 2014 at 2:05 PM

Progressive paradise.

Kenosha Kid on July 20, 2014 at 2:05 PM

The nuclear smack down closer in any argument with a liberal: Name one of your policies that has ever worked.

To a liberal, their policies actually working in reality is less important than how they make the liberal feel about him/herself.

Socratease on July 20, 2014 at 2:10 PM

Finally, the meter has moved! However, I don’t think July will ever beat the all time June record

Shot-in-the-Ass-O-Meter

Blake on July 20, 2014 at 2:12 PM

Is it mostly black on black crime?

OmahaConservative on July 20, 2014 at 2:03 PM

I live just across the state line from Chicago (35 miles) and all our news (TV radio, paper) come for the most part from Chicago. Yes, it is mostly black on black violence with about 90% of the people being shot are young black males — i.e., gangbangers, and in the case of the little girls collateral damage.

MrsGsBoyTommy on July 20, 2014 at 2:14 PM

In a fallen world–no other kind on Earth–helplessness provokes crime. How can people be so stupid as to believe otherwise?

RBMN on July 20, 2014 at 2:15 PM

I live just across the state line from Chicago (35 miles) and all our news (TV radio, paper) come for the most part from Chicago. Yes, it is mostly black on black violence with about 90% of the people being shot are young black males — i.e., gangbangers, and in the case of the little girls collateral damage.

MrsGsBoyTommy on July 20, 2014 at 2:14 PM

The majority of our gun violence (smaller scale) is just what you have described…

OmahaConservative on July 20, 2014 at 2:17 PM

“The nuclear smack down closer in any argument with a liberal: Name one of your policies that has ever worked.”

That’s a stupid question. They’ll respond with:
Social Security
Medicare
Civil Rights
Minimum wage
Weekends
Food Stamps
Etc, etc, etc

Bill-Republic of Texas on July 20, 2014 at 2:17 PM

The story was that Wyatt Earp made Dodge City a gun free zone and he was willing to meet people coming into town and actually demand their guns We have Rahm Emanuel, and his government, paying lip service to this but being held back by the PC movement from doing what’s necessary. The courts have told Illinois that citizens should have the right to have guns, yet the Illinois governments, both state and city, want to keep fighting that and make it more difficult. If they would actually deal with people caught with “illegal” weapons and allow more people to have arms, this problem would diminish before the year is out.

I just saw a video of the Detroit Chief of Police thanking armed citizens for lowering the crime rate. Perhaps Rahm Emanuel could take a hint from that and do the same. Since his government isn’t ready to do what’s necessary, let’s allow the people being held hostage in their homes by these lawless gangsters, to protect themselves. Once the lawless start accumulating casualties, you can bet the rates will go down because, the perps will be dead and those watching from the sidelines might hesitate for fear of ending up like them.

bflat879 on July 20, 2014 at 2:22 PM

Anyone here from illinidiva lately?? Hope one of those stray bullets didn’t pluck her plump azz off of her bar stool…

bimmcorp on July 20, 2014 at 2:22 PM

Darwin.

CW on July 20, 2014 at 2:23 PM

Progressive paradise.

This.

Socratease on July 20, 2014 at 2:24 PM

Keep voting for Democrats. What difference does it make.

alanstern on July 20, 2014 at 2:25 PM

My guess is it makes no difference who the voters of Chicago THINK they are voting for, they are going to get the same crap regardless. I don’t know who “Cook County Board President Toni Preckwinkle” is but I’ll put real money that he/she is a corrupt Democrat who will do the same stupid things Emanuel has done — because Emanuel did the same stupid things his predecessor and the predecessor before that and … And the chances of a non-corrupt non-Democrat getting elected are no where near as good as a snowball in Hell.

clippermiami on July 20, 2014 at 2:30 PM

We are quickly becoming a third world nation with the Democrats in charge of things.

sadatoni on July 20, 2014 at 2:31 PM

We are quickly becoming a third world nation with the Democrats in charge of things.

sadatoni on July 20, 2014 at 2:31 PM

‘Becoming’??? Hell, we’ve been that way for 8 years…

bimmcorp on July 20, 2014 at 2:35 PM

That’s a stupid question. They’ll respond with:
Social Security
Medicare
Civil Rights
Minimum wage
Weekends
Food Stamps
Etc, etc, etc

Bill-Republic of Texas on July 20, 2014 at 2:17 PM

Not really.
Qualify it with…”in the last 50 years, what liberal policy has worked and at what cost?”

Mimzey on July 20, 2014 at 2:37 PM

On the poll, the leading “other than Rahm” candidate, county board prez Preckwinkle, formally announced she isn’t running. Rahm will likely be re-elected.

Warner Todd Huston on July 20, 2014 at 2:37 PM

In the late 1980s, I lived in Lincoln Park–which runs from North Avenue (1600N) to, say, Diversy (2800N). Boys Town then ran two or three blocks from Diversy to just south of Wrigley Field. Old Town went from 1600N south to Division (1200N). Near North Side ran from Division south to the Chicago River (400N). The Loop ran from the river south to, say 500 South). Gentrified areas were spreading west from Lake Michigan in a big way. I’m not sure we’re it’s safe now, but then you didn’t really go much farther west than Halstead.

This is all to say that these killings are occurring far south of these areas. Chicago explodes when the carnage extends up to the Loop and north of it.

BuckeyeSam on July 20, 2014 at 2:38 PM

As usual, Democrats will just blame the people who flee the disaster by moving away. Not the ones who created the disaster in the first place.

RBMN on July 20, 2014 at 2:38 PM

Elections have consequences. These ones are particularly ugly consequences.

Chicago politicians and the voters who foolishly put them in charge have innocent blood on their hands.

s1im on July 20, 2014 at 2:44 PM

What do you expect when a village loses it’s idiot community organizer?

Flange on July 20, 2014 at 2:48 PM

Finally, the meter has moved! However, I don’t think July will ever beat the all time June record

Shot-in-the-Ass-O-Meter

Blake on July 20, 2014 at 2:12 PM

We should send all of our new “friends” from south of the border to shitcago for a weekend. They will pack up and go home quickly with lots of scary stories to tell their buds. Hey, whatever happened to that crisis anyway? It all just went away………………

VegasRick on July 20, 2014 at 2:52 PM

Chicago is in a lot of trouble in a number of areas, but violent crime is certainly at the top of the list for most voters these days. And Rahm’s policies are clearly not working. Will this wake people up to the futility of gun free zones when they are in the middle of a street war or will they just elect a new face with the same liberal policies? Time alone will tell.

As knee-jerk liberal as New York’s voters can be, they’ve actually not elected the official Democratic Party nominee as mayor more than 50 percent of the time in the past 80 years (they’ve been out of City Hall 44 years in that period, though they probably should have been there during the John Lindsay years). So there is some at least mild form of accountability there if the Democrats screw things up so bad voters demand a change.

Chicago? The number of years the Democrats haven’t held the mayoralty during that same 80 year span — Zero. And once you got past the end of the true machine politics under the elder Richard Daley in the late 1970s, the old sevices-for-votes deal was broken and it was simply special interests pushing more and more big government while services like policing declined.

Chicago voters are simply happy to rearrange the deck chairs on the Titanic and replace one liberal Democratic Party hack with another when things go wrong, and expect the next progressive in City Hall will finally be the answer. They won’t, because they’d have to toss out their ideology to affect any change, so as a result the city will simply go careening from one high-crime weekend to another whether or not Rahm wins re-election.

jon1979 on July 20, 2014 at 2:54 PM

…they need to talk to the Police Chief in Detroit!

JugEarsButtHurt on July 20, 2014 at 3:10 PM

That’s a stupid question. They’ll respond with:
Social Security
Medicare
Civil Rights
Minimum wage
Weekends
Food Stamps
Etc, etc, etc

Bill-Republic of Texas on July 20, 2014 at 2:17 PM

Please show all of us which one of these are actually working as intended? We’ll wait.

bgibbs1000 on July 20, 2014 at 3:10 PM

Detroit has begun to solve this problem.

“Detroit has experienced 37 percent fewer robberies than it did last year, and Police Chief James Craig is crediting armed citizens for the drop.

“Criminals are getting the message that good Detroiters are armed and will use that weapon,” said Chief Craig, who has been an open advocate for private gun ownership, the Detroit News reported. “I don’t want to take away from the good work our investigators are doing, but I think part of the drop in crime, and robberies in particular, is because criminals are thinking twice that citizens could be armed.”

Viator on July 20, 2014 at 3:12 PM

Jazz, I find your sarcasm quite insensitive in this post

Chicago is not a gun-free zone, if it were…there would be no guns

I hope that’s a simple concept to understand

America will never be a gun free zone until every state bans guns from private citizens and confiscates existing firearms…I think that day will eventually come to be

nonpartisan on July 20, 2014 at 3:25 PM

Never let a crisis go to waste, right, Rahm?

paulus1 on July 20, 2014 at 3:29 PM

Jazz, I find your sarcasm quite insensitive in this post

Chicago is not a gun-free zone, if it were…there would be no guns

I hope that’s a simple concept to understand

nonpartisan on July 20, 2014 at 3:25 PM

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That’s right Jazz … get the ‘terminology’ correct.
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They are “Guns are illegal, here” zones.
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America will never be a gun free zone until every state bans guns from private citizens and confiscates existing firearms…I think that day will eventually come to be

nonpartisan on July 20, 2014 at 3:25 PM

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Molon Labe, college boy (or girl).

listens2glenn on July 20, 2014 at 3:31 PM

nonpartisan on July 20, 2014 at 3:25 PM

We get it, you’re a mental midget. There’s no need to reestablish that fact every time you comment.

HumpBot Salvation on July 20, 2014 at 3:33 PM

I’ve been to Illinois a few times, but never even in the Chicago suburbs. We go out of our way to avoid that area.

And despite all the violence, I suspect Emmanuel will win again easily. Leftists never learn from their mistakes.

cat_owner on July 20, 2014 at 3:34 PM

America will never be a gun free zone until every state bans guns from private citizens and confiscates existing firearms…I think that day will eventually come to be

nonpartisan on July 20, 2014 at 3:25 PM

Come and get it! (Or THEM as it were).

VegasRick on July 20, 2014 at 3:36 PM

Chicagoland has come to the City of Lakes as the bodies drop almost daily now on the northside.

Our Enlightened Leaders have us well on the way to returning to the glory days of yesteryear when the city was known as Murderapolis.

Plus, we’re a Sanctuary City, so we got that going for us too!

Bruno Strozek on July 20, 2014 at 3:36 PM

America will never be a gun free zone until every state bans guns from private citizens and confiscates existing firearms…I think that day will eventually come to be

nonpartisan on July 20, 2014 at 3:25 PM

How do you plan on getting past the 4th Amendment?:

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

nobar on July 20, 2014 at 3:39 PM

We get it, you’re a mental midget. There’s no need to reestablish that fact every time you comment.

HumpBot Salvation on July 20, 2014 at 3:33 PM

I think you’re being generous. Unfortunately, this ability to comment without thinking is representative of the great majority of liberals.

Thinking has become a lost ability for many on the left.

Propaganda has replaced it.

darwin on July 20, 2014 at 3:40 PM

We get it, you’re a mental midget. There’s no need to reestablish that fact every time you comment.

HumpBot Salvation on July 20, 2014 at 3:33 PM

It’s like barfing. It just comes streaming out. sopartisan can’t help it.

VegasRick on July 20, 2014 at 3:43 PM

nobar on July 20, 2014 at 3:39 PM

institute a very heavy fine and I think most folks would find it prudent to turn in their arms

nonpartisan on July 20, 2014 at 3:45 PM

How do you plan on getting past the 4th Amendment?:

nobar on July 20, 2014 at 3:39 PM

Just get rid of the Bill of Rights silly.

- nonpartisan

darwin on July 20, 2014 at 3:46 PM

nobar on July 20, 2014 at 3:39 PM
institute a very heavy fine and I think most folks would find it prudent to turn in their arms

nonpartisan on July 20, 2014 at 3:45 PM

How about we tax the living sh!t out of you for being an azzhole.

VegasRick on July 20, 2014 at 3:47 PM

institute a very heavy fine and I think most folks would find it prudent to turn in their arms

nonpartisan on July 20, 2014 at 3:45 PM

What about the people who aren’t law abiding citizens? You know, criminals who prey on the defenseless?

darwin on July 20, 2014 at 3:48 PM

America will never be a gun free zone until every state bans guns from private citizens and confiscates existing firearms…I think that day will eventually come to be

nonpartisan on July 20, 2014 at 3:25 PM

institute a very heavy fine and I think most folks would find it prudent to turn in their arms

nonpartisan on July 20, 2014 at 3:45 PM

Backtracking are we?

nobar on July 20, 2014 at 3:48 PM

Come on now, we can safely blame BOOOOOOOOOOOSH!!!!!!!! for this.

jukin3 on July 20, 2014 at 3:48 PM

What about the people who aren’t law abiding citizens? You know, criminals who prey on the defenseless?

darwin on July 20, 2014 at 3:48 PM

“That’s what the police are for, silly!”

*dumbazz

VegasRick on July 20, 2014 at 3:49 PM

I just want to know from where Chicago shipped in all those redneck conservatives who are doin’ all this shootin’.

vnvet on July 20, 2014 at 3:50 PM

America will never be a gun free zone until every state bans guns from private citizens and confiscates existing firearms…I think that day will eventually come to be

nonpartisan on July 20, 2014 at 3:25 PM

Well, good thing we still have a representative government in the states … federal not so much. Or would you prefer something a bit more totalitarian?

darwin on July 20, 2014 at 3:51 PM

I just want to know from where Chicago shipped in all those redneck conservatives who are doin’ all this shootin’.

vnvet on July 20, 2014 at 3:50 PM

Well, it is on the “southside” so……………

VegasRick on July 20, 2014 at 3:51 PM

“That’s what the police are for, silly!”

*dumbazz

VegasRick on July 20, 2014 at 3:49 PM

Damn I’m stupid … of course! How dumb could I be? I bet the government could hire millions more cops … one for every home!

darwin on July 20, 2014 at 3:52 PM

Damn I’m stupid … of course! How dumb could I be? I bet the government could hire millions more cops … one for every home!

darwin on July 20, 2014 at 3:52 PM

I think sopartisan should hang a sign on her door letting everyone know her house is a gun free zone.

VegasRick on July 20, 2014 at 3:55 PM

I thought Rahm Emanuel was supposed to clean up this town, and his various anti-gun ownership moves were going to be a big part of the solution. Or am I misremembering that? In any event, one has to wonder how firmly his supporters are standing behind him, given the results these policies are producing. According to at least one headline, people may be getting fed up with it.

Jazz Shaw on July 20, 2014 at 2:01 PM

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I say send in Detroit Police Chief James Craig.

listens2glenn on July 20, 2014 at 3:55 PM

America will never be a gun free zone until every state bans guns from private citizens and confiscates existing firearms…I think that day will eventually come to be

nonpartisan on July 20, 2014 at 3:25 PM

C’mon np – when are you going to start rounding up all the guns? And which guns are you going to round up? All of them? Just handguns? Rifles too? Can I keep my skeeter gun? You are an idiot.

VegasRick on July 20, 2014 at 3:58 PM

America will never be a gun free zone until every state bans guns from private citizens and confiscates existing firearms…I think that day will eventually come to be

nonintelligent on July 20, 2014 at 3:25 PM

Wow, the Stupid in this one grows day by day.

1. How will your grand plan be paid for?

2. How can you be absolutely certain that all of the guns are gone?

3. How will you get around the Constitution?

And before answering that last question, remember that Democrat Mayor Emmanuel wanted to make 99.5% of Chicagoland a gun-free zone. But an Activist Federal Judge said the Constitution would not allow such a plan.

F-

Del Dolemonte on July 20, 2014 at 3:58 PM

institute a very heavy fine and I think most folks would find it prudent to turn in their arms

nonintelligent on July 20, 2014 at 3:45 PM

How will you make the people pay the fines? And how will you be able to prove all of the guns are gone?

F-

Del Dolemonte on July 20, 2014 at 4:00 PM

…they need to talk to the Police Chief in Detroit!

JugEarsButtHurt on July 20, 2014 at 3:10 PM

Chicago Police Chief Gary McCarthy has some interesting things to say about civilians who legally carry guns. He also blames the stangest people and things for the gun violence in Chicago; pilgrims (yes the Mayflower pilgrims), white people, lax gun laws and the guns themselves. On June 5th he a a heart attack, with 80% blockage in one artery and 100% blockage in another. But his biggest accomplishment has to be his increasable marksmanship. On a separate incident McCarthy who was also out drunk again on City Island one evening was shooting out street lights with two other police officers one of whom was McCarthy’s brother whom is a New York State Trooper. When McCarthy was confronted by an NYPD Sgt concerning the shooting incident McCarthy had retaliated against the officer later on who insisted on pursuing the shooting incident as a criminal matter. Needless to say the incident was quietly swept under the rug by the NYPD! Ah liberals – all failures lead to success.

MrsGsBoyTommy on July 20, 2014 at 4:09 PM

Is it mostly black on black crime?

Yes, almost exclusively. The violence is cultural in nature. That’s why the democrat politicians spin like the wind to ignore the 900 pound gorilla in the room.

sewer urchin on July 20, 2014 at 4:14 PM

On any given day, it’s almost safer to be a child in Palestine than to be one in Chicago.

Ricks Cafe on July 20, 2014 at 4:14 PM

How will you make the people pay the fines?
F-

Del Dolemonte on July 20, 2014 at 4:00 PM

At that point all the celebrity activists will rally to declare the fines and fees racist and demand the guns be turned back on to the “people”. Right??

Mimzey on July 20, 2014 at 4:22 PM

The escalating homicidal violence in Chicago is well documented. The question now becomes, “what to do to stop it?” Martial Law would seem the only recourse in an area essentially controlled by violent gangs. Would anyone abide such a tactic? Is there any alternative?

Dan_NV on July 20, 2014 at 4:23 PM

This tragic series of events won’t matter to the left. They’ll simply use these victims as pawns to push their agenda.

I guess we need another reminder of the reality of gun laws. I guarantee that the following three questions will NEVER be answered by liberals:

1) Will you confirm that criminals will VOLUNTARILY surrender their guns if all guns were banned?

2) If criminals will NOT surrender their guns how do you plan to ensure that ALL or a SIZABLE amount of guns have been taken away from criminals?

3) How will you GUARANTEE that criminals will never be able to obtain another gun again? Remember, we cannot secure the border regarding people so how in the world will we be able to prevent illegal guns from entering the country?

Kingfisher on July 20, 2014 at 4:23 PM

Jazz, I find your sarcasm quite insensitive in this post

Chicago is not a gun-free zone, if it were…there would be no guns

I hope that’s a simple concept to understand

America will never be a gun free zone until every state bans guns from private citizens and confiscates existing firearms…I think that day will eventually come to be

nonpartisan on July 20, 2014 at 3:25 PM

Thank you for the slow ball across the plate. By making something unlawful doesn’t stop the unlawful activity. With an unsecured boarder
stretching hundreds of miles, imposing America as a gun free zone will not make it so. Guns will flood through the boarder.

We are also talking cultures here, NP, and the gun culture runs deep and strong in the blood of Americans. If you want to change this cold culture war to hot, banning guns country wide would do it.

Gebirgsjager on July 20, 2014 at 4:25 PM

Is it mostly black on black crime?

OmahaConservative on July 20, 2014 at 2:03 PM

Bow many white people do you know with the letter “Q” in the middle of their first name?

bw222 on July 20, 2014 at 4:25 PM

institute a very heavy fine and I think most folks would find it prudent to turn in their arms

nonpartisan on July 20, 2014 at 3:45 PM

Sure, why not!? A lot of people can use their WELFARE CHECKS (provided by the taxpayers) to pay the fine then demand they need more money because they’re still starving!

Of course, any criminal will not REGISTER their guns so it will be hard to tell if an individual possesses a gun or not! Perhaps Obama, with his acute mind-reading powers can tell the police which individuals own guns and which individuals don’t! (/sarc)

Kingfisher on July 20, 2014 at 4:27 PM

I would almost say nobody could be as stupid as nonpartisan.

But I think he really is that stupid.

Just imagine the utopia where all the law abiding citizens turn in their firearms.

cozmo on July 20, 2014 at 4:28 PM

Chicago is not a gun-free zone, if it were…there would be no guns

Only a dumba$$ would believe that a criminal, who is NOT willing to abide by existing laws, would abide by any gun law!

Kingfisher on July 20, 2014 at 4:29 PM

nonpartisan on July 20, 2014 at 3:25 PM

Care to give your expert opinion as to why there are no shootings every weekend in Naperville, Downer’s Grove, Arlington Heights or Lake Forest?

bw222 on July 20, 2014 at 4:30 PM

America will never be a gun free zone until every state bans guns from private citizens and confiscates existing firearms…I think that day will eventually come to be

nonpartisan on July 20, 2014 at 3:25 PM

Sure, loser, go on ahead and ban them. You would be banning the Constitution at the same time, which would dissolve the concept of the ‘United’ States of America, and then you would play hell coming to get ‘em.

What makes you think that you candy assed libiots can come on down to Texas and succeed in prying even ONE gun out of our hands, Shltforbrains??

And I thought libfleaandcry was stupid…I had forgotten about you…

bimmcorp on July 20, 2014 at 4:41 PM

nonpartisan on July 20, 2014 at 3:25 PM
Care to give your expert opinion as to why there are no shootings every weekend in Naperville, Downer’s Grove, Arlington Heights or Lake Forest?

–happy to. I’ve lived in two of the above and spent time in all of them, along with the west side of Chicago where I was robbed at gunpoint by two Vice Lords in 1986.
All of the towns you reference are middle to very upper(LF) middle class neighborhoods, with largely intact families, and jobs. Coincidentally or not, they’re also largely white.
And Emanuel & Quinn want to disarm THEM?
Good thinking, geniuses.
The government will take my guns when I run out of ammunition. And breath.

orangemtl on July 20, 2014 at 4:45 PM

All joking and exaggeration aside, if you’ve ever been to these useless, blighted South Side neighborhoods you really must wonder what, exactly, the thugs involved hope to acquire or gain. Another vacant building? An intersection?

jangle12 on July 20, 2014 at 5:00 PM

2nd post – it’s rarely mentioned but the Aldermen from these hellholes protect their incumbency and cash flow by tipping off the gang-bangers about police activity. Of course, they are happy to bloviate about ‘gun violence’ while facilitating its continuation.

jangle12 on July 20, 2014 at 5:04 PM

Chicago cannot save itself. Reform will have to come at the state level first and then work its way down to the city. Perhaps Rauner can start the process next year but even with a Reform governor, a Dem controlled and corrupt legislature makes any improvement very difficult.

KW64 on July 20, 2014 at 5:25 PM

2nd post – it’s rarely mentioned but the Aldermen from these hellholes protect their incumbency and cash flow by tipping off the gang-bangers about police activity. Of course, they are happy to bloviate about ‘gun violence’ while facilitating its continuation.

jangle12 on July 20, 2014 at 5:04 PM

Chicago: Gangs + Politicians = Corruption?

Chicago Magazine has published a very interesting look at the links between politicians and criminal gangs in that city. It’s in three parts:

Gangs and Politicians in Chicago: An Unholy Alliance

Gangs and Politicians: How Gang Crime Stacks Up

Gangs and Politicians: Prisoner Shuffle

slickwillie2001 on July 20, 2014 at 5:32 PM

Rahm Emanuel, Toni Preckwinkle, or the execrable Karen Lewis….GOOD LUCK, CHICAGO!

tanked59 on July 20, 2014 at 5:33 PM

Looks like Rahm is responsible for more civilian deaths than Bibi.

Go get him, trolls!

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mankai on July 20, 2014 at 5:41 PM

Chicago is not a gun-free zone, if it were…there would be no guns

I hope that’s a simple concept to understand

America will never be a gun free zone until every state bans guns from private citizens and confiscates existing firearms…I think that day will eventually come to be

nonpartisan on July 20, 2014 at 3:25 PM

Is America a crack-cocaine and heroine free zone?

I’d leave it at that, but I’m not sure you’d understand it. You see, both of those things are illegal everywhere and yet there are still users and addicts all over the nation. Interestingly, many of the people in these “gun free zones” are likely also in possession of other substances/objects they shouldn’t have.

Take guns away from the good people and all you’ll have is an armed criminal population with more confidence.

Pattosensei on July 20, 2014 at 5:41 PM

Maybe Kwame Kilpatrick will run.

mankai on July 20, 2014 at 5:42 PM

nonpartisan on July 20, 2014 at 3:25 PM

The police chief in the another leftist paradise, Detroit, would beg to differ.

mankai on July 20, 2014 at 5:46 PM

…will they just elect a new face with the same liberal policies?

Sure they will! This is Chicago. You’re not counting on intelligence, are you?

GarandFan on July 20, 2014 at 5:47 PM

Black folks seem cool with it. Dudes have to establish or maintain credibility among the peers while waiting for the NBA to call or get that music contract.

BL@KBIRD on July 20, 2014 at 7:41 PM

If we are expecting different results from the same corrupt, incompetent, political machine politicians in Chicago we are the ones that are stupid. When the voters of Chicago wake up and throw “all” of these losers out then we will start to have responsible government, and not until then. I’m not holding my breath.

leader4hru on July 20, 2014 at 7:43 PM

Criminals and politicians in Chicago have never been far separated. They have always worked nicely together, as they do this very day.

The gangers getting killed each day are of absolutely no importance to the pols or to the gang leaders, all of whom reap their riches from the grinding of the Chicago machine.

What needs to change? Nothing, unless it benefits the elite in the criminal/political complex.

They are astounded anyone cares about dead gang kids. There are plenty more being bred to feed the machine, every day; isn’t that so?

Dolce Far Niente on July 20, 2014 at 7:47 PM

The majority of our gun violence (smaller scale) is just what you have described…

OmahaConservative on July 20, 2014 at 2:17 PM

Yeah, this is why no one is bothering to take exceptional action. It’s all illegal guns, all gang activity, and almost all young blacks. No one gives a crap about these antisocial vermin, so they spew platitudes until a little girl gets shot through the window in her house.

As for the local media, here’s the resident Liberal-tarian telling everyone to settle down — 420 murders a year is a big, big improvement and you silly Republicans should be cheering the Chicago mayor and police for their stunning achievements.

Jaibones on July 20, 2014 at 8:11 PM

The nuclear smack down closer in any argument with a liberal: Name one of your policies that has ever worked.

They can’t answer, or stammer some non sequitur, or whine that their policies WOULD work, but need more money.

ConstantineXI on July 20, 2014 at 2:03 PM

Good. I will be stealing that.

Xavier on July 20, 2014 at 9:31 PM

America will never be a gun free zone until every state bans guns from private citizens and confiscates existing firearms…

I think that day will eventually come to be

nonpartisan on July 20, 2014 at 3:25 PM

And we all know how well prohibitions work don’t we?

roy_batty on July 20, 2014 at 10:13 PM

nonpartisan on July 20, 2014 at 3:25 PM

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Thank you for the slow ball across the plate. By making something unlawful doesn’t stop the unlawful activity. With an unsecured boarder
stretching hundreds of miles, imposing America as a gun free zone will not make it so. Guns will flood through the boarder.

We are also talking cultures here, NP, and the gun culture runs deep and strong in the blood of Americans. If you want to change this cold culture war to hot, banning guns country wide would do it.

Gebirgsjager on July 20, 2014 at 4:25 PM

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You’re close, Gebirgsjager … The “culture” that “runs deep and strong in the blood of Americans” is one of FREEDOM of an INDIVIDUAL PERSON (as opposed to a corporate or a communal) to exercise or practice INDEPENDENT power/capability, in living ones daily walk of life.
The right of an individual person to possess and use FIREARMS is ABSOLUTE in it’s necessity to insure that a “government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth”
. . . . . . . . . .
period.

listens2glenn on July 20, 2014 at 10:51 PM

Rahm turned Chicago into a sanctuary city, it worked so well that his buddy is turning the USA into a sanctuary country. Obama is fundamentally trans forming America alright.

mediamime on July 21, 2014 at 4:49 AM

So Chicagoans would possibly like to change one Democrat mayor, for another Democrat mayor, yeah, that’ll make a big difference.

kjatexas on July 21, 2014 at 8:41 AM

Every liberal I have ever talked to/commented to, never gets it:
Murder and attempted murder is already illegal.

Why does the potential method of murdering someone matter so much to them?

It is Pre-Crime punishment. What other areas of pre-crime punishment do they support?

barnone on July 21, 2014 at 10:09 AM

I thought Rahm Emanuel was supposed to clean up this town, and his various anti-gun ownership moves were going to be a big part of the solution. Or am I misremembering that? In any event, one has to wonder how firmly his supporters are standing behind him, given the results these policies are producing.

Right. They just blame us in Indiana now, since we believe in the 2nd Amendment. It’s “our fault” that their citizens can come over here and get the bad guns.

I doubt the gangs are worried about getting guns in any legal fashion. They aren’t worried about such things as obeying laws. Works for the President, works for them.

IrishEyes on July 21, 2014 at 12:48 PM

So Chicagoans would possiblywill like to change one Democrat mayor, for another Democrat mayor, yeah, that’ll make a big difference.

kjatexas on July 21, 2014 at 8:41 AM

FIFY.

They always vote Democrap. It’s like doing the same thing over and over, but expecting a different result. The definition of crazy.

IrishEyes on July 21, 2014 at 12:50 PM

clippermiami on July 20, 2014 at 2:30 PM

She is.

IrishEyes on July 21, 2014 at 1:03 PM

How libs think gun-free zones work.

IrishEyes on July 21, 2014 at 1:05 PM