Quotes of the day

posted at 8:31 pm on July 19, 2014 by Allahpundit

One of the corpses fell through the rickety roof of Irina Tipunova’s house in this sleepy village, just after Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 exploded high over eastern Ukraine, where pro-Russian separatists are fighting government forces.

“There was a howling noise and everything started to rattle. Then objects started falling out of the sky,” the 65-year-old pensioner said in front of her grey-brick home.

“And then I heard a roar and she landed in the kitchen, the roof was broken,” she said, showing the gaping hole made by the body when it came through the ceiling of the kitchen in an extension to the house.

The dead woman’s naked body was still lying inside the house, next to a bed.

***

Recent history offers two examples in which inadvertent attacks on civilian airliners demonstrated the risks of military confrontation but also led, over time, to a process of sober reflection and eventual de-escalation.

The first such incident was the Sept. 1, 1983 attack that downed Korean Air Lines Flight 007 near Sakahlin Island, a missile testing zone on the far eastern coast of what was then the Soviet Union. The plane was brought down by a Soviet fighter jets, but Moscow initially denied responsibility and then claimed the passenger jet had been on a spy mission. In truth, it was a hideous accident in the fog of the Cold War that illustrated how Moscow and Washington were operating on a hair trigger. The vituperative reaction in Washington led some Soviets to fear that all-out war might be ahead — and this, in turn, contributed to a period of reflection that eventually led both sides to consider new arms control agreements and other measures of détente. Indeed, viewed through history’s lens, you can discern a connection between the KAL shootdown and the eventual end of the Cold War and collapse of the Soviet Union…

Nobody knows if the tragic events over eastern Ukraine will lead to wise reflection in Moscow and a move toward de-escalation, or whether tensions will exacerbate even further. Sometimes, disaster makes people stop and think; other times, it just leads to worse disaster. But certainly the loss of the Malaysia Airlines jet should encourage European nations, such as Germany, that sanctions against Russia that push it toward peace are preferable to letting the haphazard process of tit-for-tat continue.

***

America’s Ambassador to the UN, Samantha Power, could not have been clearer in apportioning blame in her speech at the Security Council Friday: “Russian can end this war. Russia must end this war.” The result is likely to be a Western ultimatum to Russia to comply with its previous commitments to rein in the separatists and deliver them to the negotiating table. If Putin refuses, the consequences could be twofold.
Why did MH17 fly over a war zone?

The first is that the Ukrainian government would be given a much freer hand to continue and complete its “anti-terror” operations against pro-Russian forces. The second would be a further tightening of Western sanctions. If these included a shift to the long threatened “sector sanctions” covering whole industries, the impact could be severe at a time when the Russian economy is already looking extremely vulnerable.

Having maintained the tactical initiative for most of the last four months, Putin suddenly faces an uncomfortable dilemma. Failure to co-operate in de-escalating the crisis invites the risk of deeper international isolation and real economic pain.

But abandoning the separatists mean a loss of political leverage over Ukraine and an even bigger loss of face at home.

***

If it has done nothing else, the crash of Flight MH17 has just put an end to the “it’s not a real war” fairy tale, both for the Russians and for the West. Tragically, this unconventional nonwar war has just killed 298 people, mostly Europeans. We can’t pretend it isn’t happening any longer, or that it doesn’t affect anyone outside of Donetsk. The Russians can’t pretend either.

Without the fairy-tale pretense, some things are about to become clear. For one, we are about to learn whether the West in 2014 is as united, and as determined to stop terrorism as it was 26 years ago. When the Libyan government brought down Pan Am 103 over Lockerbie, Scotland, in 1988, the West closed ranks and isolated the Libyan regime. Can we do the same now—or will too many be tempted to describe this as a “tragic accident,” and to dismiss what will inevitably be a controversial investigation as “inconclusive?” It is insufficient to state, as President Obama has now done, that there must be a “cease-fire” in Ukraine. What is needed is a withdrawal of Russian mercenaries, weapons, and support. The West—and the world—must push for Ukrainian state sovereignty to be reestablished in eastern Ukraine, not for the perpetuation of another frozen conflict.

We will also learn something interesting about the Russian president. So far there is no sign of shock or shame in Russia. But in truth, this tragedy offers Vladimir Putin an opportunity to get out of the messy disaster he has created in eastern Ukraine. He now has the perfect excuse to denounce the separatist movement and to cut its supplies. If he refuses, then we know that he remains profoundly dedicated to the chaos and nihilism he created in Donetsk. We can assume he intends to perpetuate it elsewhere. And if we are not prepared to fight it, we should be braced for it to spread.

***

The firing of GRAD rockets and the shooting down of a civilian airplane are part of a pattern, a last-ditch desperate attempt to salvage a win in eastern Ukraine at any cost. In the last several weeks, Russia has pumped dozens of tanks, self-powered howitzers, armored vehicles and militants across the border to the Russian-backed insurgents…

But in recent weeks Moscow’s thinkers and pundits have written that they believe Putin’s support could collapse. A failure to achieve further victory in Ukraine has led analysts to predict that Putin’s support could drop significantly, and Russia’s leading pollsters already see evidence that these predictions could be right…

The Russian media landscape is now a nearly unified voice of disinformation and hate, spreading the narrative that the world is locked in a great battle between East and West, a battle which will be lost unless Putin is allowed to win it. With every passing week Putin becomes more like the totalitarian dictators who helped divide the world along these lines just a few generations ago, and he is now a victim of his own mechanisms…

The cycle will continue. Putin’s recklessness in eastern Ukraine will only grow. Many more lives, often of civilians stuck in the crossfire, will be lost. In the warped cycle of disinformation and power that Putin has created, this senseless violence makes perfect sense, and hundreds or even thousands of civilian casualties are just collateral damage.

***

Once upon a time, there was the Brezhnev Doctrine, which justified as “fraternal help” such actions as the Soviet invasion of Czechoslovakia in 1968. Mikhail S. Gorbachev replaced it with the Sinatra Doctrine —You do it your way, as Gennadi I. Gerasimov, the Foreign Ministry spokesman, put it — toward Eastern Europe. Now we have the Putin Doctrine.

It is impossible to overstate the degree to which this is a threat not just to Russia’s Eastern European and Eurasian neighbors but to the whole post-1945 international order. Across the world, countries see men and women living in other countries whom they regard as in some sense “their people.” What if, as has happened in the past, Chinese minorities in Southeast Asian countries were to be the targets of discrimination and popular anger, and China (where, on a visit this spring, I heard admiration expressed for Mr. Putin’s actions) decided to take up the mother country’s burden, exercising its völkisch responsibility to protect?…

It seems plausible already to suggest that a regular army (whether Ukrainian or Russian) would usually have identified the radar image of a civilian airliner flying at 33,000 feet, while a group made up solely of local militants (even ones with military experience) would not ordinarily have had the technology and skill to launch such an attack without outside help. It is precisely the ambiguous mixtures created by Mr. Putin’s völkisch version of the “responsibility to protect” that produce such disastrous possibilities. He subverts and calls into question the authority of the government of a sovereign territory, and then blames it for the result.

***

Western leaders need to adopt a different attitude toward the Russian leader. Putin runs an enormously corrupt, authoritarian regime that has as its main goal staying in power at any cost. He has caused the deaths of thousands of people, destabilized his neighbors, supported murderous like-minded tyrants elsewhere around the globe, and repeatedly violated the human rights of his own people. He may be popular among Russians these days, but that should not deter the West from pursuing a principled policy.

Placing Putin himself on the visa ban and asset freeze list would be a huge step, equivalent to a declaration of political war. But if the downing of MH17 doesn’t get people to start thinking along such lines, how many more innocent victims will it take?

Those of us who have been calling for tough sanctions for months have been warning that things could spin out of control and that, undeterred, Putin might threaten other countries in the region and beyond. The tragedy of MH17 should be a wake-up call to Western leaders to stop dragging their feet and to take decisive action now. They should stop treating Putin as a normal leader and instead treat him as the international pariah that he is.

***

In fact, it’s quite possible the incident won’t change the underlying dynamics in Ukraine that much at all.

As Mark Leon Goldberg smartly points out, “One of the key distinguishing features of the conflict in Ukraine is that the USA and Russia have not been able to agree to a simple set of facts about the crisis.”…

Any smoking-gun evidence tying separatist rebels to the crash or the separatists to Russia will be spun and denied. The rebels will deny they shot down the planem and the Russian government—as it has continually—will deny that it is supporting the rebels…

The incident may result in a temporary lull in violence—separatists are apparently open to a three-day cease-fire—but my guess is that before long the Ukrainian military will restart its offensive against the rebels and, once Ukraine dips out of the headlines a bit, separatist activity including the supplying of fighters with arms from Russia will continue.

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Wow CR, that’s what we think of the way you worship your savior on earth.

cozmo on July 19, 2014 at 9:29 PM

hawkdriver on July 19, 2014 at 9:27 PM

Dude her whole purpose in life is to make others as miserable as her.

cozmo on July 19, 2014 at 9:31 PM

Pink Floyd.

Time.

hawkdriver on July 19, 2014 at 9:32 PM

Hawk; ‘patriotic’ might mean something different to you and I than it does to the sandcrab. Different worlds and all that.

DemetriusPhalerum on July 19, 2014 at 9:33 PM

at. First coolrethuglica. Now it’s the piker hour! What’s next? Cozmo’s buddy Lourdes? Judge_Dredd on July 19, 2014 at 9:22 Pm

I think CR is AP’s sock and he is just letting us know he’s watching

wolly4321 on July 19, 2014 at 9:33 PM

The Cranberries – Zombie

RickB on July 19, 2014 at 9:35 PM

hawkdriver on July 19, 2014 at 9:27 PM

Sorry, its my fault for trolling the troll. Which I perversely enjoy. At some point my rage tips over into incredulity and humor, else I would go insane.

Fenris on July 19, 2014 at 9:35 PM

I think CR
wolly4321 on July 19, 2014 at 9:33 PM

Too bad she doesn’t. That is one dumb broad.

CW on July 19, 2014 at 9:35 PM

Screw your brand of “patriotism” as Americans are oppressed by this tyrant and his thug administration.

Patriotism my 4th point of contact. You don’t know what it means.

hawkdriver on July 19, 2014 at 9:27 PM

If I am going to stick my head up someone butt, I would rather it be the butt of my president. Not some other country’s prime minister. But that is my choice. I know many here live to stick their head up Netanyahu’s butt so we have different butt licking taste. let’s agree to disagree on who’s butt taste best.

coolrepublica on July 19, 2014 at 9:36 PM

Anybody, and I do mean anybody who holds up the Mohammedans — whose unholy scripture requires the genocide of the Jews — as even close to equal to Israelis (who happen to have Mohammedans on the Knesset) deserves to be treated with any resemblance to respect. Ever.

John Hitchcock on July 19, 2014 at 9:36 PM

…else I would go insane.

Fenris on July 19, 2014 at 9:35 PM

What? You think you’re better than the rest of us?

Sanity is over rated.

cozmo on July 19, 2014 at 9:37 PM

I think CR is AP’s sock and he is just letting us know he’s watching

wolly4321 on July 19, 2014 at 9:33 PM

I disagree. AP wouldn’t be that stupid…

OmahaConservative on July 19, 2014 at 9:37 PM

That is one dumb broad.

CW on July 19, 2014 at 9:35 PM

If I am going to stick my head up someone butt, I would rather it be the butt of my president. Not some other country’s prime minister. But that is my choice. I know many here live to stick their head up Netanyahu’s butt so we have different butt licking taste. let’s agree to disagree on who’s butt taste best.

coolrepublica on July 19, 2014 at 9:36 PM

Talk about timing.

CW on July 19, 2014 at 9:37 PM

At least the stupid troll admits it.

cozmo on July 19, 2014 at 9:38 PM

wolly4321 on July 19, 2014 at 9:33 PM

Even as a sock, AP wouldn’t be that crass…

Barred on July 19, 2014 at 9:38 PM

CR go phuck youself you effing whack job. You’re insane.

CW on July 19, 2014 at 9:38 PM

Sanity is over rated.

cozmo on July 19, 2014 at 9:37 PM

That’s a big ten-four good buddy.

Axe on July 19, 2014 at 9:38 PM

And look, the disease who said she wasn’t saying someone had their head up a Joooooooooooooooooooooo’s butt just said someone had their head up a Jooooooooooooooooooooooo’s butt while admitting she’s an anti-Semite Socialist criminal’s buttlicker.

John Hitchcock on July 19, 2014 at 9:38 PM

Pink Floyd.

Time.

hawkdriver on July 19, 2014 at 9:32 PM

Thanks,

One of my all time favs.

“You fritter and waste the hours in an off hand way”

Seems appropriate in this age of the Internet…

ToddPA on July 19, 2014 at 9:39 PM

f I am going to stick my head up someone butt, I would rather it be the butt of my president. Not some other country’s prime minister. But that is my choice. know many here live to stick their head up Netanyahu’s butt so we have different butt licking taste. let’s agree to disagree on who’s butt taste best. coolrepublica on July 19, 2014 at 9:36 PM

Reggie Love showed up.

wolly4321 on July 19, 2014 at 9:40 PM

Twerp, how did Chupacabra guts get on your bicycle chain?

Parmenides on July 19, 2014 at 9:41 PM

ToddPA on July 19, 2014 at 9:39 PM

Roger Waters is a BDS’r.
I’ll pass.

annoyinglittletwerp on July 19, 2014 at 9:41 PM

One of my all time favs.

“You fritter and waste the hours in an off hand way”

Seems appropriate in this age of the Internet…

ToddPA on July 19, 2014 at 9:39 PM

Exhibit A

If I am going to stick my head up someone butt, I would rather it be the butt of my president. Not some other country’s prime minister. But that is my choice. I know many here live to stick their head up Netanyahu’s butt so we have different butt licking taste. let’s agree to disagree on who’s butt taste best.

coolrepublica on July 19, 2014 at 9:36 PM

ToddPA on July 19, 2014 at 9:42 PM

Folks, I guess sometimes our comments here are hard to sense the tenor of. We sometimes sound angry when we are not. Unserious when we are deadly serious. My apologies. I was angry. To have anyone from the left scold anyone who comments here who is a conservative, on being patriotic? Please.

Just f@cking please.

CR, being patriotic would have meant putting your politics aside to support your troops. But the left didn’t. They had nightly death tolls and death milestones. They didn’t care about the troops but they loved them some high casualty numbers. They couldn’t give a shit about CIVCAS but they pointed it out, every time it happened. Why, because it hurt Bush. You hated the 2000 election results so much it blinded you. It made you capable of throwing your country, your military, your world status to the wind to destroy one man.

Never lecture anyone here about patriotism, you mindless ass.

hawkdriver on July 19, 2014 at 9:43 PM

Roger Waters is a BDS’r.
I’ll pass.

annoyinglittletwerp on July 19, 2014 at 9:41 PM

What is a BDS’r?

OmahaConservative on July 19, 2014 at 9:43 PM

Scorpions – Wind Of Change

RickB on July 19, 2014 at 9:43 PM

Sophie Ro, come here. We’re not leaving this restaurant until I understand women in general, and you in particular.

Axe on July 19, 2014 at 8:39 PM

Ummmmmm, forgot to say please.

31giddyup on July 19, 2014 at 8:42 PM

Reminds me of the time my goofy son told his live in girlfriend….at her very own house, “I do what I want, don’t you question me.” A week on the couch broke him from suckin eggs.

arnold ziffel on July 19, 2014 at 9:44 PM

hawkdriver on July 19, 2014 at 9:32 PM

Echoes

gh on July 19, 2014 at 9:44 PM

Roger Waters is a BDS’r.
I’ll pass.

annoyinglittletwerp on July 19, 2014 at 9:41 PM

Some people say Waters is washed up. Others say he is riding a wave of popularity. Who knows when his ship will come in. I’m sure the news will splash across the front page making it all wet.

Parmenides on July 19, 2014 at 9:44 PM

Evening everyone,

Hopey has caved on Oil Exploration, in case anyone missed it!
=============================================================

https://twitter.com/AP

The Associated Press @AP · 11m

Obama approves sonic cannons, opening U.S. Eastern Seaboard to oil exploration:

http://apne.ws/1qkoQKW

canopfor on July 18, 2014 at 11:19 AM
======================================

Obama opens Eastern Seaboard to oil exploration

By Associated Press

Published: 21:54 GMT, 18 July 2014 | Updated: 21:54 GMT, 18 July 2014

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap/article-2697668/Obama-opens-Eastern-Seaboard-oil-exploration.html

canopfor on July 19, 2014 at 9:44 PM

coolrepublica on July 19, 2014 at 9:36 PM

Enjoy your black jebus’s butt hole. It amazes me that so many jews bend over backwards to defend and help the blacks when a majority of them including Your preezy hate their guts. You like it that they’ll vote for your boy king and then stab them in the back. GFY

BeachBum on July 19, 2014 at 9:45 PM

ToddPA on July 19, 2014 at 9:39 PM

“The sun is the same in a relative way, but you’re older
Shorter of breath and one day closer to death”

Cherrie, no?

:-)

hawkdriver on July 19, 2014 at 9:46 PM

OmahaConservative on July 19, 2014 at 9:43 PM

Boycott, divestment, sanctions.
He’s an Israel-hater/Jew-hater

annoyinglittletwerp on July 19, 2014 at 9:47 PM

31giddyup on July 19, 2014 at 8:54 PM

Thanks for reposting that. Good to hear from someone who made it to a protest.

cat_owner on July 19, 2014 at 9:48 PM

Malaysia Airlines plane crash in Ukraine, July 17, 2014
4m
State Department: Separatists allowed OSCE monitors only 75 minutes on site of Ukraine plane crash yesterday, 3 hours today – @StateDept
Read more on state.gov
======================

https://twitter.com/StateDept

Lack of Access at Crash Site of MH17
Press Statement
Jen Psaki
Department Spokesperson
Washington, DC
July 19, 2014

We are deeply concerned by the Russia-backed separatists’ refusal to allow OSCE monitors safe and unfettered access to the crash site of Malaysia Airlines flight MH17. Yesterday, the monitors were allowed only 75 minutes at the site. Today, they were allowed less than three hours. Thus far, the separatists have only allowed monitors to have limited access to a small area. The site is not secure, and there are multiple reports of bodies being removed, parts of the plane and other debris being hauled away, and potential evidence tampered with. This is unacceptable and an affront to all those who lost loved ones and to the dignity the victims deserve.

It is critical that there be a full, credible, and unimpeded international investigation as quickly as possible. Russia-backed separatists committed Thursday to allowing full access to international observers and response teams and Russia supported an OSCE statement calling for the same. We urge Russia to honor its commitments and to publicly call on the separatists to do the same.

http://m.state.gov/md229500.htm

canopfor on July 19, 2014 at 9:48 PM

. . . OK, I’m pretty sure that will support about 120 pounds. All right — anyone loan me a pair of gravity boots? Size seven, anything in black?

Axe on July 19, 2014 at 9:48 PM

Hawk @9:43; my point. Couldn’t have said it better.

DemetriusPhalerum on July 19, 2014 at 9:49 PM

Putin runs an enormously corrupt, authoritarian regime that has as its main goal staying in power at any cost.

We’ve got something very similar a whole lot closer to home.

VorDaj on July 19, 2014 at 9:49 PM

What? You think you’re better than the rest of us?

Sanity is over rated.

cozmo on July 19, 2014 at 9:37 PM

No, just you. Ha! (just kidding)

Fenris on July 19, 2014 at 9:49 PM

wolly4321 on July 19, 2014 at 9:47 PM

Labyrinths

gh on July 19, 2014 at 9:50 PM

*(Yes,..yes I know,….JiHadys won’t get there this way)
(snark)

Meat Loaf – Paradise by the Dashboard Light

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmPMMitJDYg

canopfor on July 19, 2014 at 9:50 PM

ehoes gh on July 19, 2014 at 9:44 PM

You beat me to it.

wolly4321 on July 19, 2014 at 9:51 PM

hawkdriver on July 19, 2014 at 9:43 PM

Hey, go up 16 and then 75 and a cut over west on a back road…and there I am.

HonestLib on July 19, 2014 at 9:51 PM

Of course there could be a flood of support for Waters should he decide to float a new song out there. I’m sure it will dampen the spirits of the haters.

Parmenides on July 19, 2014 at 9:51 PM

What is a BDS’r?

OmahaConservative on July 19, 2014 at 9:43 PM

Bush Derangement Syndrome.

Fenris on July 19, 2014 at 9:52 PM

gh on July 19, 2014 at 9:44 PM

+1

hawkdriver on July 19, 2014 at 9:52 PM

“The sun is the same in a relative way, but you’re older
Shorter of breath and one day closer to death”

Cherrie, no?

:-)

hawkdriver on July 19, 2014 at 9:46 PM

Yup…Hawk, they absolutely aced the lyrics in that song…

ToddPA on July 19, 2014 at 9:53 PM

Certainly another hit song would be just a drop in the bucket for Waters considering his career.

Parmenides on July 19, 2014 at 9:53 PM

Phil Collins – Another Day In Paradise

RickB on July 19, 2014 at 9:49 PM

RickB: Oh crap,..were on a Paradise Vulcan Mind-Meld thingy:0

canopfor on July 19, 2014 at 9:53 PM

labyrinths gh on July 19, 2014 at 9:50 PM

Nobody 1/2 drunk spells it that way.

wolly4321 on July 19, 2014 at 9:54 PM

Hey, go up 16 and then 75 and a cut over west on a back road…and there I am.

HonestLib on July 19, 2014 at 9:51 PM

You’ve been sorely missed…how’s the KR doing?

ToddPA on July 19, 2014 at 9:54 PM

Everyone knows though Waters has a deep reservoir of talent. So he just might dip his toe in again to test the waters.

Parmenides on July 19, 2014 at 9:55 PM

OK, I’m pretty sure that will support about 120 pounds. All right — anyone loan me a pair of gravity boots? Size seven, anything in black?

Axe on July 19, 2014 at 9:48 PM

Grasshopper, install a ceiling fan; buy a cheap shower curtain; wear goggles; and enjoy the view.

HonestLib on July 19, 2014 at 9:56 PM

ToddPA on July 19, 2014 at 9:39 PM

Roger Waters is a BDS’r.
I’ll pass.

annoyinglittletwerp on July 19, 2014 at 9:41 PM

I agree, he’s a POS.
But there are lots of musicians I’ve listened to for years,
who are total scum…

ToddPA on July 19, 2014 at 10:00 PM

wolly4321 on July 19, 2014 at 9:54 PM

Clearly you haven’t been drinking enough then.

gh on July 19, 2014 at 10:01 PM

Everyone knows though Waters has a deep reservoir of talent. So he just might dip his toe in again to test the waters.

Parmenides on July 19, 2014 at 9:55 PM

I hate to throw a wet towel on this, but how long until your well runs dry?

Axe on July 19, 2014 at 10:01 PM

Hey Hawk — if you want to get a sense of where foolsandinista’s sympathies and patriotism lie, here was my first encounter with her a few months back:

I a here on behalf of anyone who lived in Central America, South America , Caribbean in the 80′s and want you know that we want you to take your 80′s foreign policy and shove it where the sun doesn’t shine. It’s easy to want something back when everyone in the game was like pons.

Only self centered Americans who lived under a rock in the 80′s would want the world to get back to that. Too many countries like where I am from suffered enough form Reagan’s foreign policy of the 80′s to know that we wish the 80′s never existed.

coolrepublica on March 3, 2014 at 7:58 PM

Too bad you didn’t get your wish to become a Soviet state, complete with gulags and breadlines …

ShainS on March 3, 2014 at 8:10 PM

ShainS on July 19, 2014 at 10:01 PM

http://www.oscepa.org/

https://twitter.com/OSCE

OSCEVerified account
@OSCE

The Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe is the world’s largest regional security organization. RT ≠ endorsement.

OSCE @OSCE · 10h

Daily update from the Special Monitoring Mission in Ukraine info received until 18 July 18:00 http://www.osce.org/ukraine-smm/121431
===============

Latest from the Special Monitoring Mission (SMM) in Ukraine based on information received until 18 July 18:00 (Kyiv time)
Kyiv 19 July 2014
*****************

This update is provided for media and general public.

The SMM obtained very limited access to the crash site of Malaysia Airlines MH17, which came down on 17 July near Hrabove (79 km east of Donetsk). There were dead bodies at the scene, marked, but exposed to the elements. No process of debris collection was observed. Some of the ’Donetsk People’s Republic’s‘ guards were visibly intoxicated and aggressive.

The situation in parts of Luhansk and Donetsk regions remained tense with on-going fighting around the city of Luhansk. While patrolling the city centre of Luhansk, close to the occupied building of the Regional Administration, the SMM heard the sound of a shell hitting a garage, located about 200 metres away. Within two minutes the SMM arrived at the scene and found one man killed lying on the pavement; the garage and a car were totally demolished.

On 17 July, the SMM met with four members of Luhansk emergency first aid brigade. They reported that the day before, the first aid team responded to a call after firing in Luhansk had taken place, but before they were even able to see the patients, firing resumed and they had to run to a basement. One paramedic was injured by shrapnel. The doctors said that in June and July alone there were 250 killed and 850 wounded in the Luhansk region. The doctors also informed that on 16 July alone three persons were killed and 30 were wounded in Luhansk city. This last number does not include civilians killed in close vicinity of combat zones outside of the city and causalities among combatants. They also claimed that increasingly more people were being killed by booby traps and mines.

The SMM visited Pokrovske checkpoint held by the Ukrainian army (approximately 103km south-east of Dnipropetrovsk) close to the boundary with the Donetsk region. According to information obtained by SMM, Special Police Units (OMON) have been deployed in the area, the checkpoint has been recently reinforced and the Ukrainian army personnel presence has increased.

The situation in Kherson was calm.

http://www.osce.org/ukraine-smm/121431

canopfor on July 19, 2014 at 10:02 PM

Bush Derangement Syndrome.

Fenris on July 19, 2014 at 9:52 PM

Yeah, I knew alt wasn’t talking about that…

OmahaConservative on July 19, 2014 at 10:02 PM

Enjoy your black jebus’s butt hole. It amazes me that so many jews bend over backwards to defend and help the blacks when a majority of them including Your preezy hate their guts. You like it that they’ll vote for your boy king and then stab them in the back. GFY

BeachBum on July 19, 2014 at 9:45 PM

The Jews who voted for Obama feel the same way I do. They think Netanyahu is a jacka$$. Many Jews in Israel feel the same too.

coolrepublica on July 19, 2014 at 10:03 PM

The Return Of The Giant Hogweed

gh on July 19, 2014 at 10:03 PM

evening all..
some friends you all are..
I had to go hear it from a bunch of paid schills..
after a lifetime of not knowing the truth..
today the BAMN shills (nasty lot) let me in on the truth…
I am a RACIST FASCIST NAZI PIG>>>—hangs head…

going2mars on July 19, 2014 at 10:04 PM

. . . OK, I’m pretty sure that will support about 120 pounds. All right — anyone loan me a pair of gravity boots? Size seven, anything in black?

Axe on July 19, 2014 at 9:48 PM

Damn Dude…I thought you’d be bigger…

OldWeaselKeeper on July 19, 2014 at 10:04 PM

coolrepublica on July 19, 2014 at 10:03 PM

FU

CW on July 19, 2014 at 10:05 PM

If I am going to stick my head up someone butt, I would rather it be the butt of my president. Not some other country’s prime minister. But that is my choice. I know many here live to stick their head up Netanyahu’s butt so we have different butt licking taste. let’s agree to disagree on who’s butt taste best.

coolrepublica on July 19, 2014 at 9:36 PM

I always knew you were a deep stinker.

arnold ziffel on July 19, 2014 at 10:06 PM

Parmenides on July 19, 2014 at 9:55 PM

I hate to throw a wet towel on this, but how long until your well runs dry?

Axe on July 19, 2014 at 10:01 PM

Well let me pool my thoughts together into a stream of consciousness without harboring any negativity to harsh my mellow.

Parmenides on July 19, 2014 at 10:06 PM

going2mars on July 19, 2014 at 10:04 PM

Sounds like the leftist moonbats were out in full force. Wonder how much they got paid.

cat_owner on July 19, 2014 at 10:07 PM

ToddPA on July 19, 2014 at 10:00 PM

Same here.

I was in the Barnes and Nobles in Savannah off Abercorn, not days ago, and bought a Pretenders Greatest Hits CD to download into my truck. The older gent cashiering said she was a great woman, good choice. I said, well, a great artist, but not a great woman at all for her wishing casualties on coalition forces during the war. He shrugged and I paid.

If I boycotted every artist whom I disagreed with, I’d be relegated to listening to me sing driving home. And no, just no!

hawkdriver on July 19, 2014 at 10:07 PM

You’ve been sorely missed…how’s the KR doing?

ToddPA on July 19, 2014 at 9:54 PM

KR is fine. Got home a few days ago and same son had crunched his 1997 Cobra SVT and I had to smile as he paid for the repairs out of his own pocket. Why would I have been missed? I am just a dumb RedNeck hanging onto the last of my sunsets. Thanks for the kind words as they mean a lot at this stage.

HonestLib on July 19, 2014 at 10:07 PM

going2mars on July 19, 2014 at 10:04 PM

If you had read the terms of use here you would have already known that.

See what you get for not reading those internet agreements before you accept the terms.

cozmo on July 19, 2014 at 10:08 PM

I am a RACIST FASCIST NAZI PIG>>>—hangs head…

going2mars on July 19, 2014 at 10:04 PM

No your are not. You are a fine chap indeed and a decent poet.

Parmenides on July 19, 2014 at 10:08 PM

Chrissie Hynde, I mean.

hawkdriver on July 19, 2014 at 10:08 PM

going2mars on July 19, 2014 at 10:04 PM

Coming from that bunch, you should be damn proud.

Barred on July 19, 2014 at 10:08 PM

coolrepublica on July 19, 2014 at 10:03 PM

I doubt you even know any jews, no less ones you would have a conversation with. Enjoy your messiah’s colon, eventually you’ll be evacuated out of it when you are no longer needed.

BeachBum on July 19, 2014 at 10:09 PM

My son has informed me-via FB message-that yesterday(they’re 6 hours ahead of us) he bought himself…a kilt.

annoyinglittletwerp on July 19, 2014 at 10:10 PM

What is a BDS’r?

OmahaConservative on July 19, 2014 at 9:43 PM

OC: I Urban Dictionary’d this, had to Censor the last part
as it mentioned fingers and Gluteus Maximus/Minimus:)
==========================================================

BDS

Burning Ddong-go-mong Sensation. Ddong-go-mong is a korean word meaning “butt-hole”. it is used to classify the feeling you get on your butt-hole. there are several moments where this could happen. the most common experiences comes from the aftermath of taking a fat sh*t that felt like it’s ripping you apart; or when you recieve a bazooka blasted ddong-jjeem

Andrew had a mega BDS after recieving a powerful ddong-jjeem from Doh.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=BDS

canopfor on July 19, 2014 at 10:10 PM

Grasshopper, install a ceiling fan; buy a cheap shower curtain; wear goggles; and enjoy the view.

HonestLib on July 19, 2014 at 9:56 PM

You, sir, have no respect for serious science.

I’m going to get to the bottom of Sophie Ro. Through careful experimentation and analysis, I’m going to understand her as well as Ken understands Euro homo-tools or Parm American sexual harassment laws.

Now if you’ll kindly step away from those Jello molds, which I’m going to need for tests thirty-six through forty-three, I can get on with my preparations.

*plugs in oscilloscope*

Axe on July 19, 2014 at 10:10 PM

Waters tried to keep his career afloat by pumping out some mediocre songs but all it did was muddy the waters and spark debate about his true place in rock history.

Parmenides on July 19, 2014 at 10:11 PM

coolrepublica on July 19, 2014 at 9:36 PM

And yet , the Israelis elected him knowing fully what he is about. Same goes for the Likud.

CW on July 19, 2014 at 10:11 PM

you can see the Proudly displayed RATSO sign at the start of this video.. like the 5 sec mark..
on the left side above the man in the yellow shirt..

http://www.lansingstatejournal.com/article/20140719/NEWS01/307190015/1099/GW01/Immigration-issue-sparks-second-day-protests-Lansing

going2mars on July 19, 2014 at 10:11 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on July 19, 2014 at 10:10 PM

Good for him.

Is he going to wear it the right way?

cozmo on July 19, 2014 at 10:11 PM

My son has informed me-via FB message-that yesterday(they’re 6 hours ahead of us) he bought himself…a kilt.

annoyinglittletwerp on July 19, 2014 at 10:10 PM

OMG. Bwaaah. Twerp you are so funny.

Parmenides on July 19, 2014 at 10:12 PM

cozmo on July 19, 2014 at 10:11 PM

If he is-I would rather not know. LoL

annoyinglittletwerp on July 19, 2014 at 10:13 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on July 19, 2014 at 10:10 PM

Andy Where’s Your Kilt

Donald Where’s Your Troosers

Enjoy.

gh on July 19, 2014 at 10:13 PM

Central America in the 80s, Cool? What beef do you have with trying to thwart the Marxist expansion at that time?

And after that stupid comment, are you ready to get off of your outright lie that you voted for McCain?

hawkdriver on July 19, 2014 at 10:13 PM

Parmenides on July 19, 2014 at 10:12 PM

Clan Wallace.
Pro Liberate!

annoyinglittletwerp on July 19, 2014 at 10:13 PM

Wonder how much they got paid.

cat_owner on July 19, 2014 at 10:07 PM

current Michigan cost for a BAMN screaming shill..
$35/ day and lunch…signs were free…

going2mars on July 19, 2014 at 10:13 PM

gh on July 19, 2014 at 10:13 PM

When I was a teenager, I’d sometimes sing at highland games.

annoyinglittletwerp on July 19, 2014 at 10:15 PM

evening all..
some friends you all are..
I had to go hear it from a bunch of paid schills..
after a lifetime of not knowing the truth..
today the BAMN shills (nasty lot) let me in on the truth…
I am a RACIST FASCIST NAZI PIG>>>—hangs head…

going2mars on July 19, 2014 at 10:04 PM

going2mars: May I suggest a Self-Flogging,.for personal
disciplinary measures, that your self-conscience
can live with,……(kidding):)

canopfor on July 19, 2014 at 10:15 PM

you can see the Proudly displayed RATSO sign at the start of this video.. like the 5 sec mark..
on the left side above the man in the yellow shirt..

http://www.lansingstatejournal.com/article/20140719/NEWS01/307190015/1099/GW01/Immigration-issue-sparks-second-day-protests-Lansing

going2mars on July 19, 2014 at 10:11 PM

I can’t get the vid to play, damnit…

OmahaConservative on July 19, 2014 at 10:16 PM

Calling all Rude Buffoons, Wenches, Trolls, and Swiveled Eyed Loons,,,,

(Just filling in for OC)

Doc Holliday on July 19, 2014 at 8:37 PM

Someone called???

lovingmyUSA on July 19, 2014 at 10:16 PM

I doubt you even know any jews, no less ones you would have a conversation with. Enjoy your messiah’s colon, eventually you’ll be evacuated out of it when you are no longer needed.

BeachBum on July 19, 2014 at 10:09 PM

Haha! I have known Jews probably in more intimate manners than you. Yes dear I know Jews. And they don’t all have their head up in Netanyahu’s a$$.

coolrepublica on July 19, 2014 at 10:16 PM

Malaysia Airlines plane crash in Ukraine, July 17, 2014
5m

Sunday’s annual AIDS Walk in San Francisco to be dedicated to AIDS researchers and experts that died in Malaysia Airlines crash over Eastern Ukraine – @nbcbayarea
Read more on nbcbayarea.com

https://twitter.com/nbcbayarea

canopfor on July 19, 2014 at 10:16 PM

See what you get for not reading those internet agreements before you accept the terms.

cozmo on July 19, 2014 at 10:08 PM

hangs head…you know I am better with pictures
than silly tiny text….
that BAMN bunch is one evil lot I tell ya…

going2mars on July 19, 2014 at 10:16 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on July 19, 2014 at 10:15 PM

Cool.

gh on July 19, 2014 at 10:18 PM

May I suggest a Self-Flogging,.for personal
disciplinary measures, that your self-conscience
can live with,……(kidding):)

canopfor on July 19, 2014 at 10:15 PM

my real friends would pummel me with rotten tomatoes…
got any???

going2mars on July 19, 2014 at 10:18 PM

I am a RACIST FASCIST NAZI PIG>>>—hangs head…

going2mars on July 19, 2014 at 10:04 PM

Hey! Welcome to the club!

Doc Holliday on July 19, 2014 at 10:18 PM

coolrepublica on July 19, 2014 at 10:16 PM
Sorry sweetie-but JINOS aren’t Jews.

annoyinglittletwerp on July 19, 2014 at 10:19 PM

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