Open thread: Semi-retired president to make statement on MH17 at 11:30 ET; Update: Now noon

posted at 10:41 am on July 18, 2014 by Allahpundit

His schedule’s wide open today, fortunately, so he won’t be forced to make a tough choice between addressing the public about this and, say, playing miniature golf.

Matt Continetti notes that the bear — the real bear — is indeed loose:

Obama is not the bear. He is the cub: aimless, naïve, self-interested, self-indulgent, irresponsible, irresolute. The bear is in Moscow.

One can trace a line from any global hotspot to Russia and its authoritarian ruler. Iran? Russia has assisted its nuclear program for decades. Syria? Russia is Bashar Assad’s arms dealer. Iraq? Russia is sending men and materiel to the central government. Afghanistan? Putin muscled nearby Kyrgyzstan into closing our air base there, crucial for transport, resupply, and reconnaissance in the war against the Taliban. The contretemps between the United States and Germany is the result of Edward Snowden’s breach of national security. Where is Snowden? In Russia, where he has just asked to have his visa renewed. I wonder if Vladimir Putin will say yes…

Thursday brought us only the latest unintended consequence of Russia’s war on Ukrainian independence: the destruction of a Malaysian airlines flight carrying 295 souls. The attack is revolting, the loss of life infuriating, but the downing of Flight MH17 is not the first unanticipated outcome of the war Vladimir Putin began in Ukraine. Nor will it be the last.

What if the bear, like the cub, has lost control of events? Giving Russian separatists in eastern Ukraine high-tech missiles to take down Kiev’s military planes makes sense for Putin. Standing by while they shoot down passenger jets doesn’t. He took Crimea because he knew that NATO’s European members wouldn’t care; they weren’t going to sacrifice Russian energy and Russian investment by imposing harsh sanctions just because he wanted Sevastopol back. Now they care. The emerging theory of what happened yesterday, that Putin’s Ukrainian proxies fired at the plane thinking it was a Ukrainian military jet, makes the most sense. What’s the bear going to do about it now, though? If he wanted to bring them to heel, could he even do it? Would the Russian public, after gorging on months of Kremlin propaganda about gay U.S.-backed Nazis seizing Kiev and threatening Moscow, allow it? Quote:

“How can Putin really manage this?” Pavlovsky went on. “You’d need to be an amazing conductor. Stalin was an amazing conductor in this way. Putin can’t quite pull off this trick. The audience is warmed up and ready to go; it is wound up and waiting for more and more conflict. You can’t just say, ‘Calm down.’ It’s a dangerous moment. Today, forty per cent of Russia wants real war with Ukraine. Putin himself doesn’t want war with Ukraine. But people are responding to this media machine. Putin needs to lower the temperature.”…

If it turns out that men like Strelkov and his fellow soldier-fantasists were responsible for the destruction of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 and all the people on board, the fever in Russia and Ukraine may intensify beyond anything that Vladimir Putin could have predicted or desired.

Maybe Putin’s not the bear. Maybe he’s just riding it and now he’s at risk of falling off. What happens then?

Update: He’s running late, as he always is for White House statements, so turn on cable news at noon ET instead.


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Malaysia Airlines plane crash in Ukraine, July 17, 2014
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Ukraine’s UN representative on downed Malaysian plane: To shoot down a plane at such a high altitude would only be possible using a BUK system – @BBCNews
Read more on http://www.bbc.com

canopfor on July 18, 2014 at 11:57 AM

“WutAmIGonnaSay??!! “WutAmIGonnaSay??!! “WutAmIGonnaSay??!! C’mon, People!! Gimme some words!! Gimme some words!! Gimme some words!! Make me a speech!” – Barrack H. Øbama,
on the occasion of Russian aggression against an aircraft which killed several dozen Americans and for which he, apparently, doesn’t give a rats patootie.
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ExpressoBold on July 18, 2014 at 11:57 AM

Will Obama cancel his 2-week vacation?

Hahahahahahahahahahahhahaha

sentinelrules on July 18, 2014 at 11:57 AM

He’s laying it on the UN to do something about it.

kingsjester on July 18, 2014 at 11:56 AM

Here… You fix this… I have a fundraiser to attend… Ta…. Barry… O.

sandee on July 18, 2014 at 11:57 AM

The Punk looks darker… kind of orangey…using Boehner’s tanning gel.

Schadenfreude on July 18, 2014 at 11:57 AM

The punk is a few minutes early.

Schadenfreude on July 18, 2014 at 11:54 AM

I called 11:55!!

That was back before it supposedly got moved to Noon.

Bitter Clinger on July 18, 2014 at 11:57 AM

lineholder on July 18, 2014 at 11:37 AM

Check out the description of psychotic.

dogsoldier on July 18, 2014 at 11:57 AM

An investigation…

I wonder if this investigation is going to be like a DoJ investigation into violations of the Hatch Act by cabinet officers, or abuses of power / obstruction of justice by IRS officials?

Athos on July 18, 2014 at 11:58 AM

https://twitter.com/ZekeJMiller

Zeke Miller @ZekeJMiller · 21s

RT @Phil_Mattingly: “The eyes of the world are on Eastern Ukraine and we are going to make sure that the truth is out.” -Pres. Obama

Zeke Miller @ZekeJMiller · 40s

Obama: We have already offered the support of the FBI and the NTSB…they are on their way

Replied to 0 times

Zeke Miller @ZekeJMiller · 26s

Obama: there has to be a credible international investigation into what happened

canopfor on July 18, 2014 at 11:58 AM

Will Obama cancel his 2-week vacation?

Hahahahahahahahahahahhahaha

sentinelrules on July 18, 2014 at 11:57 AM

Michelette would kill him.

Schadenfreude on July 18, 2014 at 11:58 AM

sentinelrules on July 18, 2014 at 11:57 AM

It’s up to 16 days now.

Is he saying anything? LOL!

dogsoldier on July 18, 2014 at 11:58 AM

Malaysia Airlines plane crash in Ukraine, July 17, 2014
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President Obama says at least 1 American citizen was killed in the Malaysia Airlines plane crash in Ukraine – live video
End of alert

canopfor on July 18, 2014 at 11:59 AM

Nobody believes you were tough with Putin. Put a sock in it Sparky.

Happy Nomad on July 18, 2014 at 11:59 AM

Like Putin is going to listen to a wuss like Obama…

kingsjester on July 18, 2014 at 11:59 AM

Don’t believe misinformation.

Like a YouTube video.

Ben Hur on July 18, 2014 at 11:59 AM

That was back before it supposedly got moved to Noon.

Bitter Clinger on July 18, 2014 at 11:57 AM

The Punk moved the update to noon and then beat himself…now he’s early. Adolf grins in his grave, always.

The world is in a total funk and he’s its punk.

Schadenfreude on July 18, 2014 at 11:59 AM

He stood up to Putin yesterday on the phone…or so he says.

d1carter on July 18, 2014 at 11:59 AM

He’s taking real care not to drop too much of a hammer on Putin…

…it’s obvious he’s as afraid of Putin as the GOP House Leadership is of the media and leading….

Athos on July 18, 2014 at 11:59 AM

Zeke Miller @ZekeJMiller · 12s

Obama says he spoke to netanyahu this AM about gaza

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Zeke Miller @ZekeJMiller · 23s

Obama taking qs

canopfor on July 18, 2014 at 11:59 AM

You can tell that he caught Hell for yesterday.
 
kingsjester on July 18, 2014 at 11:54 AM

 
I’m completely serious when I say, for the sake of the victims, I’m glad he waited until he was telepromptered because he says very, very stupid things when he’s not watching a ping pong tournament reading what someone else wrote for him. Just look at the tiny and insincere sentence he tried without his training wheels yesterday.
 
He doesn’t actually care, and it shines through way too much.

rogerb on July 18, 2014 at 11:59 AM

He stood up to Putin yesterday on the phone…or so he says.

d1carter on July 18, 2014 at 11:59 AM

LilliPutin laughs at the Punk and Europe, yes, he can!

Schadenfreude on July 18, 2014 at 12:00 PM

So why use this stat against Obama, seems like evidence that the President enjoys support from “real Americans” rather than the college educated “elite.”

libfreeordie on July 18, 2014 at 11:39 AM

Like most anything with anyone, they are inconsistent. When it makes sense to be anti-elite, they will be. When not, they won’t.

It is sort of a twist on the “noble savage” trope. In this case, the “noble idiot” isn’t classically educated, but knows more than the college elite. Either through old-fashioned experience or some combination of Biblical knowledge and gumption. It is a way of trying to feel superior to the educated class.

antisense on July 18, 2014 at 12:00 PM

Will Obama cancel his 2-week vacation?

Hahahahahahahahahahahhahaha

sentinelrules on July 18, 2014 at 11:57 AM

Michelette would kill him.

Schadenfreude on July 18, 2014 at 11:58 AM

obaME! don’t miss no vacation time!!!!!!!!!

VegasRick on July 18, 2014 at 12:00 PM

So why use this stat against Obama, seems like evidence that the President enjoys support from “real Americans” rather than the college educated “elite.”

libfreeordie on July 18, 2014 at 11:39 AM

The reason I use this damning stat is simple, really. After all, you Democrats have bragged for decades of how you regularly win the votes of those with advanced degrees, waving that stat around as a badge of honor.

An example, from HuffPo:

Well, it happened again: As in 2008, Barack Obama won those voters with a post-graduate degree by a huge margin on Tuesday — 13 points. That’s smaller than the 18-point margin that Obama achieved in 2008, but still substantial.

Why do the most educated Americans vote Democratic?

And in 2012, Democrats bragged about how the “most-educated states” voted for O’bama, while the “least-educated states” voted for Romney. An example:

Barack Obama’s re-election on Tuesday has been looked at a plethora of different ways. One of the most interesting is a claim that “10 out of 10 of the best [most] educated states in the US voted for Obama,”

But you Democrats never mention how you started winning record numbers of high school dropout votes starting in 2000 with Algore, who set a record for the time by getting 61% of the HS dropout vote. O’bama increased that to 70% 8 years later, and to 80% in 2012. He did even better in some Blue States like Pennsylvania.

You needed to vastly increase your share of the high school dropout demographic in order to counter losing the votes of more intelligent people. That’s because when your ideas and policies were evaluated honestly, they were rejected, except by those too stupid to know any better.

That’s also why your Party has controlled the media and the education system for the past 75 years; if your political ideas were reported honestly they too would always be rejected by all except the stupidest voters.

Del Dolemonte on July 18, 2014 at 12:00 PM

If Palestinians would send their children to the Israel border they should be warmly welcomed…./

d1carter on July 18, 2014 at 12:00 PM

And since I live in Colorado, let’s blame it on pot (even though I don’t use it.)

Walter L. Newton on July 18, 2014 at 11:56 AM

Yes, but do you inhale while you are not using it?

oscarwilde on July 18, 2014 at 12:01 PM

Like Bibi is going to listen to a meshuggah schmuck like Obama.

kingsjester on July 18, 2014 at 12:01 PM

Zeke Miller @ZekeJMiller · now

Obama notes nearly 100 AIDS researchers on plane

Zeke Miller @ZekeJMiller · 16s

Obama: “While I was talking to PM Netanyahu, sirens went off in Tel Aviv”

canopfor on July 18, 2014 at 12:01 PM

He doesn’t actually care, and it shines through way too much.

rogerb on July 18, 2014 at 11:59 AM

It’s becoming more and more obvious that he’s just going through the motions. Despite being a narcissistic sociopath, I don’t even think he believes he’s a real leader at this point. All that counts for him are the trappings of the office, not the responsibilities of the office.

Athos on July 18, 2014 at 12:01 PM

“Don’t believe misinformation, like everything I say, and

Like a YouTube video.”

Ben Hur on July 18, 2014 at 11:59 AM

Sorry, BH, but it’s more accurate for this Punk of the World.

Schadenfreude on July 18, 2014 at 12:02 PM

But Netenyahu better not harm any ‘innocent’ Palestinians…

“O.K., folks…headin’ back to Burger City and my 2 o’clock tee time…later, guys!!”

bimmcorp on July 18, 2014 at 12:02 PM

He’s taking real care not to drop too much of a hammer on Putin…

…it’s obvious he’s as afraid of Putin as the GOP House Leadership is of the media and leading….

Athos on July 18, 2014 at 11:59 AM

“Vlad, I know I said I’d have more flexibility, but come on now.”

Bitter Clinger on July 18, 2014 at 12:02 PM

Confirmed: It was a tragedy!

d1carter on July 18, 2014 at 12:02 PM

Walter L. Newton on July 18, 2014 at 11:42 AM

Those are pretty much distinctions without differences these days.

F X Muldoon on July 18, 2014 at 12:02 PM

Pres Obama’s 1130AM statement on Ukraine situation delayed til 12noon/ET.

canopfor on July 18, 2014 at 11:30 AM

This bastard will do anything to pre-empt Rush. Limbaugh really does live rent-free in his head.

Happy Nomad on July 18, 2014 at 11:40 AM

Limbaugh isn’t on today-he is on his annual golf trip to Hawai’i. He had Open Line Friday yesterday.

Del Dolemonte on July 18, 2014 at 12:02 PM

That was back before it supposedly got moved to Noon.
 
Bitter Clinger on July 18, 2014 at 11:57 AM

 
The Punk moved the update to noon and then beat himself…now he’s early. Adolf grins in his grave, always.
 
The world is in a total funk and he’s its punk.
 
Schadenfreude on July 18, 2014 at 11:59 AM

 
C’mon, now, it’s not like TV and radio stations have to try to work with those times.

rogerb on July 18, 2014 at 12:02 PM

Zeke Miller @ZekeJMiller · 14s

Obama: “I think it’s too early to guess what the intentions of what those who might have launched the SAM might have had”

canopfor on July 18, 2014 at 12:03 PM

antisense on July 18, 2014 at 12:00 PM

As always, your nom is perfect.

Schadenfreude on July 18, 2014 at 12:04 PM

The stature of his high office is well beyond his personal reach.

matthew8787 on July 18, 2014 at 12:04 PM

So did they figure out who posted the video to youtube yet?

rogerb on July 18, 2014 at 12:04 PM

Well, we apparently won’t be providing additional weaponry to Ukraine.
He can now hide behind the ongoing investigation curtain, and we’ve watched that magic before.

butch on July 18, 2014 at 12:04 PM

Confirmed: It was a tragedy!

d1carter on July 18, 2014 at 12:02 PM

Has he blamed a YouTube video yet?

Bitter Clinger on July 18, 2014 at 12:04 PM

Zeke Miller @ZekeJMiller · 30s

Obama: “This should snap everybody’s heads to attention”

Zeke Miller @ZekeJMiller · now

Obama: “We have confidence in saying that shot was taken in territory controlled by separatists”

canopfor on July 18, 2014 at 12:04 PM

“Diplomatical”…he just said this…

What’s with his blotched face?

They put shoe-cram on him.

He looks surreal.

Schadenfreude on July 18, 2014 at 12:05 PM

Obama: “I think it’s too early to guess what the intentions of what those who might have launched the SAM might have had”

canopfor on July 18, 2014 at 12:03 PM

Um, what? Did he actually say that?

dogsoldier on July 18, 2014 at 12:05 PM

Del Dolemonte on July 18, 2014 at 12:00 PM

Sorry about the formatting-I did use preview before posting and it appeared totally fine.

Del Dolemonte on July 18, 2014 at 12:06 PM

shoe-cream

Schadenfreude on July 18, 2014 at 12:06 PM

Zeke Miller @ZekeJMiller · 14s

Obama: “I think it’s too early to guess what the intentions of what those who might have launched the SAM might have had”

canopfor on July 18, 2014 at 12:03 PM

So, if it was all just an accident, all is well?

Bitter Clinger on July 18, 2014 at 12:06 PM

Yes, but do you inhale while you are not using it?

oscarwilde on July 18, 2014 at 12:01 PM

Nope. I have some here. And some THC laced cherry candy. I don’t really like the stuff. Didn’t like it in the 60′s, and don’t really like it now that I’m IN my 60′s.

Walter L. Newton on July 18, 2014 at 12:06 PM

Obama: “I think it’s too early to guess what the intentions of what those who might have launched the SAM might have had”

canopfor on July 18, 2014 at 12:03 PM

Did he really say that? OMG – the intent was clear; to bring down the plane!

esr1951 on July 18, 2014 at 12:07 PM

He told Vlad, “Our preferred path is to solve this diplomatically.” Vlad then bent over with a huge guffaw.

butch on July 18, 2014 at 12:07 PM

Presnit Dog Eater is taking lessons in Hatha Yoga in his effort to fulfill his promise to Putin to be more ‘flexible’…’The bear is loose’ has more than one meaning, it would seem…

bimmcorp on July 18, 2014 at 12:07 PM

I would respect him more if he would be honest and say, “I don’t care. And I don’t care that you care.” Instead we get the exact same weaselly nonsense that is his hallmark. Our president is a putz.

NotCoach on July 18, 2014 at 12:07 PM

BallisticBob on July 18, 2014 at 12:06 PM

I read yesterday there were 23 Americans on the flight manifest.

dogsoldier on July 18, 2014 at 12:07 PM

Maybe cuz I’m sick, today, but ..

I was NOT completely embarrassed by his Isreali comments.
Did I miss sumpin ?

pambi on July 18, 2014 at 12:07 PM

I give him credit.

He put a coat on today.

Schadenfreude on July 18, 2014 at 12:07 PM

Obama will have to act.

100 AIDS Researchers were on-board.

Homosexuals will force Obama to act.

sentinelrules on July 18, 2014 at 12:08 PM

It is sort of a twist on the “noble savage” trope. In this case, the “noble idiot” isn’t classically educated, but knows more than the college elite. Either through old-fashioned experience or some combination of Biblical knowledge and gumption. It is a way of trying to feel superior to the educated class.

antisense on July 18, 2014 at 12:00 PM

Yep. Shad is right. Your name fits you perfectly.

VegasRick on July 18, 2014 at 12:08 PM

Yesterday’s performance must have been a big disappointment….

d1carter on July 18, 2014 at 12:08 PM

I give him credit.

He put a coat on today.

Schadenfreude on July 18, 2014 at 12:07 PM

Long haired?

Walter L. Newton on July 18, 2014 at 12:08 PM

Obama: “I think it’s too early to guess what the intentions of what those who might have launched the SAM might have had”

canopfor on July 18, 2014 at 12:03 PM

The separatists could have thought the BUK was just a cool video game.

faraway on July 18, 2014 at 12:09 PM

Obama will have to act.

100 AIDS Researchers were on-board.

Homosexuals will force Obama to act.

sentinelrules on July 18, 2014 at 12:08 PM

Their messiah will bring them back, just watch.

Schadenfreude on July 18, 2014 at 12:09 PM

His schedule’s wide open today

Update: He’s running late

Wait, what?

socalcon on July 18, 2014 at 12:09 PM

Mark Steyn in for Rush.
Should be fun.

pambi on July 18, 2014 at 12:09 PM

Confirmed: It was a tragedy!

d1carter on July 18, 2014 at 12:02 PM

Has he blamed a YouTube video yet?

Bitter Clinger on July 18, 2014 at 12:04 PM

Bitter Clinger:)
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Malaysian Airlines plane being shot down LIVE! (July 17 2014)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKIlueJg4cA&feature=youtu.be

Ukraine July 17 2014. You can see the right engine and wing on fire and the sound of the explosion. RIP. Ukraine military were trying to shoot down Putin’s…
00:01:20
Added on 18/07/2014
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canopfor on July 18, 2014 at 12:09 PM

Oh, the world and Europe will no wake up.

Heh, I laughed good.

Schadenfreude on July 18, 2014 at 12:10 PM

Wake up call for Europe and the World…..

d1carter on July 18, 2014 at 12:10 PM

“being killed” he says, like “the children can now go to sleep, the story reading is over”.

Schadenfreude on July 18, 2014 at 12:10 PM

Obama: “I think it’s too early to guess what the intentions of what those who might have launched the SAM might have had”

canopfor on July 18, 2014 at 12:03 PM

I think that when you launch a Surface-to-Air Missile the intention is pretty clear even if the target was not.

Happy Nomad on July 18, 2014 at 12:11 PM

Zeke Miller @ZekeJMiller · 60s

Obama: “It is not possible for these separatists to function the way they are functioning” without Russian help

canopfor on July 18, 2014 at 12:11 PM

I read yesterday there were 23 Americans on the flight manifest.

dogsoldier on July 18, 2014 at 12:07 PM

I heard that, too.

BallisticBob on July 18, 2014 at 12:11 PM

Cutting it short….he can’t handle another question, sans prompter.

Sure, you’ve been methodical, you campaigner in chief.

Schadenfreude on July 18, 2014 at 12:11 PM

Open thread: Semi-retired president to make statement on MH17 at 11:30 ET

You have a typo right out of the gate: it should be “semi-retarded president”. Autocorrect issue?

Rix on July 18, 2014 at 12:11 PM

OOPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Washington, DC, US
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Capitol Police arrest staffer for Rep. Tom Marino, R-Penn., for carrying handgun into Cannon House Office Building in Washington, DC – @rollcall
Read more on rollcall.com

https://twitter.com/rollcall

canopfor on July 18, 2014 at 12:11 PM

Of some note Obama just said Putin can control the Russian/Ukraine border and keep any one from crossing if he wants to.

So, Putin can control borders but Obama can not.

Got that U.S. citizens….

APACHEWHOKNOWS on July 18, 2014 at 12:12 PM

The how many Americans is a pure cover up.

They knew that in the first minutes. Don’t kid yourselves.

Schadenfreude on July 18, 2014 at 12:12 PM

Obama: “I think it’s too early to guess what the intentions of what those who might have launched the SAM might have had”

canopfor on July 18, 2014 at 12:03 PM

I’m thinking it was just a simple test that went wrong. Or maybe kids fooling around.

arnold ziffel on July 18, 2014 at 12:12 PM

Snort*

–Sen Incitatus (D-Rome)

*Flying commercial airliners through warzones may result in catastrophe. Ask Captain, USS Vincennes.

spiritof61 on July 18, 2014 at 12:12 PM

Compare this mealy-mouthed wuss to what Reagan said about Korean Flight 007.

kingsjester on July 18, 2014 at 12:12 PM

“It is a heartbreaking event”

He’s is such a dummy.

Schadenfreude on July 18, 2014 at 12:12 PM

Working through the flight manifest for 24 hours….we’re all citizens of the world.

d1carter on July 18, 2014 at 12:12 PM

When do the shout outs and back slappings begin??

bimmcorp on July 18, 2014 at 12:12 PM

The Bear is hibernating.

faraway on July 18, 2014 at 12:12 PM

Obama: “It is not possible for these separatists to function the way they are functioning” without Russian help

canopfor on July 18, 2014 at 12:11 PM

Nonsense. If a bunch of guys hanging out in Benghazi can launch a spontaneous protest with RPGs then a bunch of disgruntled Ukrainians can pull out their Russian-made missile systems!!!

Happy Nomad on July 18, 2014 at 12:13 PM

Zeke Miller @ZekeJMiller · 3s

Obama says “best assessment” is just one American on board the plane

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Retweeted by Zeke Miller
Jen Psaki @statedeptspox · 47s

Thoughts and prayers go out to all families of Malaysia flight victims including family of Quinn Lucas Schansman, a dual Dutch-U.S. citizen.

canopfor on July 18, 2014 at 12:13 PM

Malaysian Airlines plane being shot down LIVE! (July 17 2014)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKIlueJg4cA&feature=youtu.be

Ukraine July 17 2014. You can see the right engine and wing on fire and the sound of the explosion. RIP. Ukraine military were trying to shoot down Putin’s…
00:01:20
Added on 18/07/2014
17,303 views

canopfor on July 18, 2014 at 12:09 PM

That was the Ukrainian AN-10 shot down by the rebels on June 6th. That video has been making the rounds with a false title. It will probably go viral.

Walter L. Newton on July 18, 2014 at 12:13 PM

Edward-Isaac Dovere @IsaacDovere

Obama, essentially: Don’t get ahead of facts on plane, but facts are that separatists shot it down & Putin is responsible& just BSing so far

sentinelrules on July 18, 2014 at 12:13 PM

Let’s talk more about controlling borders….nope, got to go.

d1carter on July 18, 2014 at 12:13 PM

“being killed” he says, like “the children can now go to sleep, the story reading is over”.

Schadenfreude on July 18, 2014 at 12:10 PM

WTF?

Rational Thought on July 18, 2014 at 12:14 PM

Samantha Power is going to handle this for Dear Leader….

d1carter on July 18, 2014 at 12:15 PM

The 23 Americans turned out to be Vietnam vets in a VA wait line so they do not count.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on July 18, 2014 at 12:15 PM

Powers/UN and the Oaf, who’s chief, are at odds, within just two hours apart.

Nitwits are in charge.

Schadenfreude on July 18, 2014 at 12:16 PM

canopfor on July 18, 2014 at 12:11 PM

Nonsense. If a bunch of guys hanging out in Benghazi can launch a spontaneous protest with RPGs then a bunch of disgruntled Ukrainians can pull out their Russian-made missile systems!!!

Happy Nomad on July 18, 2014 at 12:13 PM

Happy Nomad: Interesting,..I think, this is all about
Pinko-Commy Social InJustice!!:0

canopfor on July 18, 2014 at 12:17 PM

Dear Leader is deferring to UN Ambassador Samantha Power….

d1carter on July 18, 2014 at 12:17 PM

PINO = President In Name Only

BobMbx on July 18, 2014 at 12:17 PM

That was the Ukrainian AN-10 shot down by the rebels on June 6th. That video has been making the rounds with a false title. It will probably go viral.

Walter L. Newton on July 18, 2014 at 12:13 PM

I got the plane name wrong. I’m juggling 4 open tabs on these subjects. But anyway, that video that canafor linked to is NOT the jet from yesterday.

Walter L. Newton on July 18, 2014 at 12:17 PM

WTF?

Rational Thought on July 18, 2014 at 12:14 PM

Yes, he said “bein’ killed” as nonchalant as reading stories to kids, at bedtime.

Schadenfreude on July 18, 2014 at 12:17 PM

He’s got fund raising to do…

d1carter on July 18, 2014 at 12:17 PM

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