Quotes of the day

posted at 10:41 pm on July 17, 2014 by Allahpundit

A Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 with 295 people aboard was likely shot down by an antiaircraft missile before it crashed and burned on Thursday in an eastern Ukraine wheat field near the Russian border, in an area roiled by fighting between pro-Russian separatists and Ukrainian forces…

Reporters arriving at the scene near the town of Grabovo described dozens of lifeless bodies strewn about, mostly intact, in a field dotted with purple flowers, with remnants of the plane scattered across a road lined with fire engines and emergency vehicles. “It fell down in pieces,” said one rescue worker as tents were set up to gather the dead.

One passenger in a black sweater lay on her back, with blood streaming down her face and her left arm raised. The carcass of the plane was still smoldering, and rescue workers moved through the dark field with flashlights. Dogs barked in the distance, and the air was filled with a bitter smell.

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Arizona Republican Senator John McCain claimed there would be “hell to pay” if Russia or its separatist allies shot down a Malaysian civilian airliner in eastern Ukraine on Thursday — though he cautioned it remains unclear who exactly is responsible…

“I think the repercussions are incalculably huge,” McCain told Mitchell. “But remember that the Russians have already — or separatists, either Russian or separatist, and they’re really one and the same — have already shot down several aircraft of the Ukrainians . . . So this is part of a pattern.”

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The Ukrainian government and pro-Russian separatist rebels in eastern Ukraine immediately blamed each other for the crash, which occurred as the Boeing 777 was flying its regular route from Amsterdam to the Malaysian capital, Kuala Lumpur…

Hours later, a U.S. official said American intelligence agencies had confirmed that the plane was shot down by a surface-to-air missile. The official, who was not authorized to speak on the record about an early intelligence assessment, said government analysts were scrambling to determine who fired the missile.

“This is a contested area,” the official said. “It’s going to take time to get some information on the intentions of whoever was involved.”

***

A Kremlin statement early Friday said Putin opened a meeting with his economic advisers by calling for a moment of silence over the crash.

Then, he said, “This tragedy would not have happened if there were peace on this land, if the military actions had not been renewed in southeast Ukraine. And, certainly, the state over whose territory this occurred bears responsibility for this awful tragedy.”

***

Ukraine has already accused Russia of shooting down the Malaysia Airlines flight that crashed near the Russian border, raising questions about whether it can conduct an objective investigation into the disaster.

“The plane was shot down, because the Russian air defense systems was affording protection to Russian mercenaries and terrorists in this area,” the Ukranian Foreign Ministry said in a statement, according to ABC News. “Ukraine will present the evidence of Russian military involvement into the Boeing crash.”

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Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777-200 flying from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur was allegedly shot down by a group of Russian-backed Cossack militants near the village of Chornukhine, Luhansk Oblast, some 80 kilometers north-west of Donetsk, according to recordings of intercepted phone calls between Russian military intelligence officers and members of terrorist groups, released by the country’s security agency (SBU)…

“It’s 100 percent a passenger (civilian) aircraft,” Major is recorded as saying, as he admitted to seeing no weapons on site. “Absolutely nothing. Civilian items, medicinal stuff, towels, toilet paper.”

In the third part of conversation Cossack commander Nikolay Kozitsin talking to an unidentified militant cynically suggests that the Malaysia Airlines airplane could’ve been carrying spies, as, otherwise, it would have no business flying in that area.

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There is one important reason Ukrainian authorities are so sure that pro-Russian rebels shot down a Malaysia Airlines jet: An account on the Russian social network Vkontakte, which relays official dispatches from insurgent military leader Igor Girkin, aka Strelkov, boasted about the rebels shooting down a plane at about the time of the crash

The Vkontakte account reported at 5:37 p.m. Moscow time (4:37 in Donetsk) that a large plane — identified as an Antonov An-26 transport plane, “has just been shot down near Snizhne,” a town close to where the Malaysia Airlines plane went down. This appears to be an edited version of a gloating post that is available only in screen shots now (I have one). In that initial version, the post went on: “We warned them not to fly in our skies. And here’s a video of another bird going down. The bird fell behind a coal heap, residential areas were not hit, peaceful people did not suffer.”

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Armed with Man-Portable Air Defense Systems (MANPADS), the separatists have been taking down Ukrainian military aircraft since the beginning of June. On June 13, separatists shot down a Ukrainian transport plane that had been carrying 40 paratroopers and nine crew members.

At least 10 other Ukrainian aircraft — all of them significantly lower-flying than a Boeing 777 — have been shot down since the rebels started using MANPADS according to a count kept by military aviation expert David Cenciotti, including five Mi-24 Hinds, two Mi-8 helicopters, one An-2, one An-30, and the Ukrainian transport plane.

Pro-Russian rebels claimed responsibility for shooting down two additional Ukrainian Su-25 fighters on Wednesday. The Ukrainian Defense Ministry reported that one of the jets was hit by a portable surface-to-air missile.

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Putin cannot be happy about this turn of events. After all, things were going more or less according to plan up to now. Yesterday’s reasonably robust round of U.S. sanctions was accompanied by a set of comparatively meek European ones consisting mostly of a moratorium on development aid. Putin was doing his best to portray himself as a responsible statesman, in contrast to the reckless Western interests that goaded Kiev into civil war. He even went so far as to say that his door was always open for further negotiations. With the fog of war descending over eastern Ukraine, it was starting to look like he would be able to keep the region on a low simmer while the world was distracted by hotter conflicts elsewhere.

As of right now, that looks less likely. While it’s always dangerous to underestimate the divisions in Europe, if any kind of definitive intelligence linking Russia to this tragedy emerges, it will be much harder for skeptical Europeans to remain straddling the fence.

***

“The Ukrainian government reports that 23 Americans were aboard the plane, and that more than 300 people were killed in the crash.”

The Americans on the plane had no connection to Russia or Ukraine, and took no risks other than booking a flight from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur. Now they’re dead. It’s quite possible pro-Russian separatists killed our fellow citizens. What will the consequence be?

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This also seems to prove that Russia has lost control of the rebels, who have been complaining for some time of being abandoned by President Vladimir Putin. There is no way that, a day after criticizing the recklessness of American foreign policy, his military shoots down a passenger plane. Rather, it seems that the rebels made a mistake that paints Putin into a corner. Putin hates corners, and when he’s backed into one, he tends to lash out. He especially hates to do or say what is expected of him, and to give in to outside pressure. So though he has already expressed his condolences to the Malaysian government, don’t expect him to do anything swift or decisive. He will likely do something to punish the rebels after the spotlight moves on to the next global crisis.

My first reaction to this was that this is a game-changer, and it’s a game-changer in that it drags in the outside world, but it’s hard to see what the consequences of this could be. Even if and when the evidence is marshalled to point to the rebels, what can the West do to punish them? What can it do to punish Russia for giving them these capabilities? What can it do to end the conflict? More sanctions? Putin’s been blowing them off and they haven’t altered his calculus all that much. A peacekeeping mission? There is still no appetite for boots on the ground and Russia still has that U.N. veto. Even if the U.S. gives Ukraine lethal military aid, it in no way guarantees that Kiev’s military will be able to crush the separatists, especially not without some bloody, horrific urban warfare. The plane went down, raised the stakes, but what can the West—or Moscow—really do about it?

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Axe on July 18, 2014 at 12:43 AM

Clean cache and reload the browser – it worked for me.

Rix on July 18, 2014 at 12:44 AM

Would those be the same British that backed the South?

Steve Eggleston on July 18, 2014 at 12:27 AM

Indeed. That’s why I asked about nation of origin, Steve. It could explain the viewpoint that Rix has expressed.

lineholder on July 18, 2014 at 12:47 AM

Ok, I’d love to stay and chat, but this malfunction is dang annoying and day 3/5 is coming. Today was busier than yesterday, but thankfully the Queen of a All Nurses has returned from vacation, making my day much better. Y’all have a good night.

Doc Holliday on July 18, 2014 at 12:48 AM

Yeah Jackie, I’m married, for the last time. Evah!

This site seems to have committed suicide. I’ll be back when it decides to rise from the dead.

Gnite folks!

Diluculo on July 18, 2014 at 12:49 AM

Axe on July 18, 2014 at 12:43 AM

WOO-HOO!!

Thank you, Axe!

Newtie and the Beauty on July 18, 2014 at 12:49 AM

Nothing does. I’m going to die alone no matter what you people do.

Axe on July 18, 2014 at 12:44 AM

Is that what you choose, Axe?

lineholder on July 18, 2014 at 12:50 AM

Arnold, if you’re still there, thank you. :) That ‘keeper’ comment was lovely. I’m guessing Bad Bob came up with the ‘popcorn surprise’. :)

thatsafactjack on July 18, 2014 at 12:50 AM


Jul 18, 2014 at 12:48 am

Doc Holliday

Ok, I’d love to stay and chat, but this malfunction is dang annoying and day 3/5 is coming. Today was busier than yesterday, but thankfully the Queen of a All Nurses has returned from vacation, making my day much better. Y’all have a good night.

Niters and sleep well, Doc!

Newtie and the Beauty on July 18, 2014 at 12:51 AM

Doc Holliday on July 18, 2014 at 12:48 AM

Diluculo on July 18, 2014 at 12:49 AM

Good night!

lineholder on July 18, 2014 at 12:51 AM

Dang…this is worse than NoScript set on “Max”… :P

Newtie and the Beauty on July 18, 2014 at 12:52 AM

Talk about “no frills”… :o

Newtie and the Beauty on July 18, 2014 at 12:53 AM

The whole format of Hot Air has changed. This comment box I’m writing in is very small.

31giddyup on July 18, 2014 at 12:53 AM

I’d post ‘Blues After Hours’ – Pinetop Perkins, but there’s no mechanic for that on this thing. *Sigh*

You’ll have to get there on your own. All I can do is give directions. :)

thatsafactjack on July 18, 2014 at 12:54 AM

Jul 18, 2014 at 12:53 am

31giddyup

The whole format of Hot Air has changed. This comment box I’m writing in is very small.

It’s like the script went on strike…

It’s the hamsters’ fault <—insert suspicious look here

Newtie and the Beauty on July 18, 2014 at 12:54 AM

This is very weird…

OmahaConservative on July 18, 2014 at 12:55 AM

dick.

Spliff Menendez on July 18, 2014 at 12:36 AM

…take it out of your mouth…and calm down!

JugEarsButtHurt on July 18, 2014 at 12:55 AM

From Newtie:

Please let everyone know I didn’t disappear, please! Got Caspered (like Doc noticed) and can’t post–no post box shows up :(

Thank you!

Niters and sleep well, OC!

OmahaConservative on July 18, 2014 at 12:57 AM

Jul 18, 2014 at 12:54 am

thatsafactjack

I’d post ‘Blues After Hours’ – Pinetop Perkins, but there’s no mechanic for that on this thing. *Sigh*
You’ll have to get there on your own. All I can do is give directions. :)

Got you covered, Jackie!

Pinetop Perkins – Blues After Hours

Newtie and the Beauty on July 18, 2014 at 12:57 AM

Ladies and Gentlemen:

Due to technical difficulties beyond my control, I’ll be directing you to “Still Got The Blues- Gary Moore” this evening, rather than posting the link.

I bid you, my friends, a fond goodnight. It’s been a pleasure, as always.

Live in the moment.

“Keep yourselves where the light is.”

Come on HA, sort yourself out. ;)

thatsafactjack on July 18, 2014 at 12:57 AM

This really sucks…

OmahaConservative on July 18, 2014 at 12:58 AM

It takes a bit longer for the falling airplane to hit the ground from 33,000 feet than it does for the sound of the explosion to reach the ground. Long enough to whip out the cell phone and figure out where to point it.

Steve Eggleston on July 18, 2014 at 12:31 AM

…..Nope - no way there was enough time to whip out your phone, point it in the right direction, and start the vid recording – UNLESS you were Already pointing it there – Because you KNEW……check your math….

williamg on July 18, 2014 at 12:58 AM

Thanks Newtie. :) Good on you. :)

Goodnight, Sleep well.

thatsafactjack on July 18, 2014 at 12:59 AM

Jul 18, 2014 at 12:57 am

thatsafactjack

Niters and sleep well, Jackie!

Newtie and the Beauty on July 18, 2014 at 12:59 AM

Axe on July 18, 2014 at 12:44 AM

Is that what you choose, Axe?

No! –but this . . .

“Love is it’s own reward,” he says. “Noes,” he says, “you guys — trust wuv,” he says.

omg — where’s a time machine — WHERE’S THE TIME MACHINE

Axe on July 18, 2014 at 12:59 AM

evening all…

is this todays shoot down?? starts just after the impact..
you see the puff…then flames..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKIlueJg4cA&feature=youtu.be

some @professionalpilots think so…

http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/543733-mh17-down-near-donetsk-13.html

and perhaps this is the trigger man..

http://www.smh.com.au/world/mh17-disaster-is-this-the-man-who-shot-down-the-plane-20140718-zubvy.html#ixzz37n1Y1ABu

going2mars on July 18, 2014 at 12:59 AM

Good night to all. Enjoyed the evening.

Non-nonpartisan, enjoyed the conversation very much!!! Thank you.

lineholder on July 18, 2014 at 12:59 AM

Jul 18, 2014 at 12:57 am

OmahaConservative

*smoooooch!*

Newtie and the Beauty on July 18, 2014 at 1:00 AM

Jul 18, 2014 at 12:57 am

thatsafactjack

Ladies and Gentlemen:
Due to technical difficulties beyond my control, I’ll be directing you to “Still Got The Blues- Gary Moore” this evening, rather than posting the link.

Because Miss Jackie Asked… ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on July 18, 2014 at 1:03 AM

FYI – pretty sure the site has been hacked.

I would encourage everyone to get off of here and then have your antivirus AND anti-malware scan your hard drive.

Bon soir!

PolAgnostic on July 18, 2014 at 1:03 AM

Johnny Winter: The Sun is Shining

Del Dolemonte on July 18, 2014 at 1:04 AM

Jul 18, 2014 at 12:59 am

lineholder

Good night to all. Enjoyed the evening.
Non-nonpartisan, enjoyed the conversation very much!!! Thank you.

Niters and sleep well, LH!

Newtie and the Beauty on July 18, 2014 at 1:04 AM

Who here is able to post OK? I switched my browser’s User Agent per Axe’s suggestion, but I’m still getting a slow, lousy interface.

non-nonpartisan on July 18, 2014 at 1:05 AM

Jul 18, 2014 at 1:03 am

PolAgnostic

FYI – pretty sure the site has been hacked.
I would encourage everyone to get off of here and then have your antivirus AND anti-malware scan your hard drive.
Bon soir!

Will do, Pol…didn’t think of that… :-(

Newtie and the Beauty on July 18, 2014 at 1:05 AM

Due to technical difficulties beyond my control, I’ll be directing you to “Still Got The Blues- Gary Moore” this evening, rather than posting the link.

Gary Moore – Still Got The Blues

I bid you, my friends, a fond goodnight. It’s been a pleasure, as always.

Live in the moment.

“Keep yourselves where the light is.”

Come on HA, sort yourself out. ;)

HA didn’t want to hear any crap about love either :)

Axe on July 18, 2014 at 1:06 AM

Site is totally messed up.

DisneyFan on July 18, 2014 at 1:06 AM

I had fun, too, Lineholder. =)

non-nonpartisan on July 18, 2014 at 1:07 AM

WTH happened?

d1carter on July 18, 2014 at 1:08 AM

IE’s version of HA just went sideways…

but Firefox seems to be ok so far….test…test..

going2mars on July 18, 2014 at 1:08 AM

I knew that post today about the POTUS was going to cause trouble…Hello, Eric. Are your guys taking names..?

d1carter on July 18, 2014 at 1:10 AM

Hit refresh; thy style-sheets are back.

Axe on July 18, 2014 at 1:11 AM

Sabotage ?
.
It’s working fine for me, now.

listens2glenn on July 18, 2014 at 1:11 AM

now firefox is goofed too…

waves at EH…

going2mars on July 18, 2014 at 1:11 AM

The site should be normal now. Reload it.

Not that it matters.

Axe on July 18, 2014 at 1:13 AM

Who here is able to post OK? I switched my browser’s User Agent per Axe’s suggestion, but I’m still getting a slow, lousy interface.

non-nonpartisan on July 18, 2014 at 1:05 AM

….I can…

williamg on July 18, 2014 at 1:13 AM

Not that it matters.

Axe on July 18, 2014 at 1:13 AM

Why doesn’t it matter?

lineholder on July 18, 2014 at 1:16 AM

Good evening..:)

Dire Straits on July 18, 2014 at 1:16 AM

….I can…

williamg on July 18, 2014 at 1:13 AM

Ok, I can now, on regular FF at least. I had been using Pale Moon, but that was very flawed.

non-nonpartisan on July 18, 2014 at 1:16 AM

Finally back to normal.

DisneyFan on July 18, 2014 at 1:17 AM

Dire Straits on July 18, 2014 at 1:16 AM

Good evening, Mr. Dire, sir ;-)

lineholder on July 18, 2014 at 1:18 AM

evening DS…

ps..where you been?…out fundraising all night??

going2mars on July 18, 2014 at 1:18 AM

LOVELOVELOVELOVELOVE!

ALL YOU NEED IS LOVE – Beatles

LOL! :)

thatsafactjack on July 18, 2014 at 1:19 AM

Seems like the format changed again…

OmahaConservative on July 18, 2014 at 1:21 AM

Quick Pop In:

Israeli-Palestinian conflict
32m
Israeli soldier killed in action during ground operations in Gaza, Israel Defense Forces confirm – @IDFSpokesperson
Read more on haaretz.com
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evening all…

is this todays shoot down?? starts just after the impact..
you see the puff…then flames..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKIlueJg4cA&feature=youtu.be

going2mars on July 18, 2014 at 12:59 AM

going2mars:

Evening and GoodNight,…Kudos on the Intell Grab,
that blew my mind!—————:0

canopfor on July 18, 2014 at 1:22 AM

Ahhh, Back to normal again…

OmahaConservative on July 18, 2014 at 1:22 AM

This site is still very jumpy.

thatsafactjack on July 18, 2014 at 1:23 AM

Good evening..:)

Dire Straits on July 18, 2014 at 1:16 AM

. . . all evenings have gone goth.

Axe on July 18, 2014 at 1:23 AM

LOVELOVELOVELOVELOVE!

thatsafactjack on July 18, 2014 at 1:19 AM

evening ms J…

is that pop phrase in the dust bin yet??
next to the Easter bunny and the Tooth fairy..

going2mars on July 18, 2014 at 1:24 AM

Nothing Else Matters – Haynes/Grateful Dead

thatsafactjack on July 18, 2014 at 1:25 AM

I’d like to see a weekly or monthly contest where we get to vote our favorite troll ‘off the island’.

trigon on July 18, 2014 at 12:18 AM

Not a bad idea lol

It looks to me that there are about 10 names which are responsible for all of the trolling which takes place here.

I think it’s a safe bet they know who the paid trolls are … but under the Terms of Use there is nothing to prevent being paid to comment on here.

Malicious trolls intentionally work to undermine us. They aren’t here for any good purpose.

Ed has banned people for obvious trolling before, so it can be done.

My view is most of what we perceive as a “double standard” is just a business decision to avoid bad PR from “commenters” who would have paid sponsorship for any trouble they could create in the media.

PolAgnostic on July 18, 2014 at 12:20 AM

I am not so sure I agree the mods know the extent of the sockpuppetry going on here. I think they would not hesitate to ban those responsible for it if they did know.

non-nonpartisan on July 18, 2014 at 1:26 AM

going2mars on July 18, 2014 at 1:24 AM

Good evening, Mr. Mars. :) Good to see you. :)

No. Nothing else matters.

thatsafactjack on July 18, 2014 at 1:26 AM

going2mars:

Evening and GoodNight,…Kudos on the Intell Grab,
that blew my mind!—————:0

canopfor on July 18, 2014 at 1:22 AM

evening canopfor…

even a stopped clock is something at some time and all that…
besides you prolly were just getting coffee and a donut
or a bathroom break..
while preparing to post it…

going2mars on July 18, 2014 at 1:29 AM

That was weird. If the hackers or the NSA snooped, Hades for you.

Nite HA

Nite America

Los Temerarios-Eras todo para mi

Schadenfreude on July 18, 2014 at 1:29 AM

Welcome back g2g.

Nite all

Schadenfreude on July 18, 2014 at 1:30 AM

lineholder on July 18, 2014 at 1:18 AM

Good evening..:)

Dire Straits on July 18, 2014 at 1:30 AM

Our education system has played a huge part in why we are where we are, as a nation. At the same time, I’d beat my personal bandwagon loud and clear proclaiming that the Sexual Revolution of the 60s and 70s has done far more harm than good.

I think about it a lot of times, particularly when it comes to the lives of females, and how much more my own gender could be contributing to this nation of ours if they hadn’t gotten sucked down into the lies of the left about sexual “freedoms and liberties” and focused on developing other character traits instead.

lineholder on July 18, 2014 at 12:23 AM

I think the Sexual Revolution of which you speak has a direct relationship with the degradation of our public education system. It’s the same people behind both, and they are more rodent than human.

non-nonpartisan on July 18, 2014 at 1:31 AM

Schadenfreude on July 18, 2014 at 1:29 AM

Goodnight, my friend. :) Sleep well.

Thank you for the dance. :)

thatsafactjack on July 18, 2014 at 1:31 AM

ALL YOU NEED IS LOVE – Beatles

LOL! :)

thatsafactjack on July 18, 2014 at 1:19 AM

And air :)

Schadenfreude on July 18, 2014 at 1:31 AM

going2mars on July 18, 2014 at 1:18 AM

Good evening..:)

Dire Straits on July 18, 2014 at 1:31 AM

. . . it’s true nothing else matters . . .

THAT’S THE PROBLEM!

. . . why won’t this light? freakin rain . . . BURN, WORLD! BURN!

. . . zippo needs more fluid, brb

Axe on July 18, 2014 at 1:31 AM

Schadenfreude on July 18, 2014 at 1:31 AM

Okay.. and air… and maybe food… occasionally… and water… but that’s as far as I’m willing to bend on this one. lol! :)

thatsafactjack on July 18, 2014 at 1:31 AM

No. Nothing else matters.

thatsafactjack on July 18, 2014 at 1:26 AM

I read you short note on the first date…
fantastic,,, as all things ms J are..
but still…you taunt us…

wouldn’t you rather have a vintage port
say a 67 Dow and some killer 80% cocoa chocolate??

going2mars on July 18, 2014 at 1:32 AM

Welcome back g2g.

Nite all

Schadenfreude on July 18, 2014 at 1:30 AM

never missed a word you wrote…
sleep well ms schad..

going2mars on July 18, 2014 at 1:33 AM

Assassin’s Tango – Powell

:)

thatsafactjack on July 18, 2014 at 1:33 AM

. . . all evenings have gone goth.

Axe on July 18, 2014 at 1:23 AM

*tip fedora*..:)

PS..Good evening..:)

PSS..I thought things were FUBAR..Not Goth..:):)

Dire Straits on July 18, 2014 at 1:33 AM

IE’s version of HA just went sideways…
but Firefox seems to be ok so far….test…test..
going2mars on July 18, 2014 at 1:08 AM

No, it was messed up for me on:

Google Chrome
Firefox
Waterfox
and the Dreaded Internet Explorer…

and yes, I have all four browsers… o_O

Newtie and the Beauty on July 18, 2014 at 1:34 AM

For Axe

Schadenfreude on July 18, 2014 at 1:34 AM

going2mars on July 18, 2014 at 1:32 AM

Never, Mr. Mars. :)

Nothing, nothing is better, or more important… than love. Nothing.

thatsafactjack on July 18, 2014 at 1:34 AM

OmahaConservative on July 18, 2014 at 1:22 AM

Good evening OC..:)

Dire Straits on July 18, 2014 at 1:35 AM

Assassin’s Tango – Powell
:)
thatsafactjack on July 18, 2014 at 1:33 AM

Why you li’l debbil, you…you couldn’t stay away… ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on July 18, 2014 at 1:35 AM

It’s working fine now OC. Thanks!

31giddyup on July 18, 2014 at 1:35 AM

Newtie and the Beauty on July 18, 2014 at 1:34 AM

Thanks for lending a hand, Newtie. :) Glad you made it back.

thatsafactjack on July 18, 2014 at 1:35 AM

sleep well mr schad..

going2mars on July 18, 2014 at 1:33 AM

Schadenfreude on July 18, 2014 at 1:35 AM

canopfor on July 18, 2014 at 1:22 AM

did you find it a tad odd that the kid in the first video
knew where to point and zoom his cheap camera
just in time with the impact….

I would think he know something…
should check the poster of that vid..

going2mars on July 18, 2014 at 1:36 AM

[sends out round of Double Whatchudrinkin's in new Double Whatchudrinkin' glasses (ain't dey PURTY??)...usual caveats apple...enters under "I Survived The Night The Website Went FUBAR"...]

Newtie and the Beauty on July 18, 2014 at 1:36 AM

thatsafactjack on July 18, 2014 at 1:23 AM

Good evening..:)

Dire Straits on July 18, 2014 at 1:36 AM

Newtie and the Beauty on July 18, 2014 at 1:35 AM

I used to be here, haunting these threads, until daybreak regularly, but my schedule has undergone several changes over the last few months since I’ve been restructuring my businesses. :)

I’ve got some time this evening, and the oddness of the ‘glitch’ was intriguing.

thatsafactjack on July 18, 2014 at 1:37 AM

Last

Schadenfreude on July 18, 2014 at 1:38 AM

PSS..I thought things were FUBAR..Not Goth..:):)

Dire Straits on July 18, 2014 at 1:33 AM

It was FUBAR. It’s worse now. It’s a dark, hellish spiral from which none of you will escape.

–’cause I ain’t going down alone.

That midget on Fantasy Island had it right:

de pain! de pain!

. . . love. LOVE!!!

O PLZ

Axe on July 18, 2014 at 1:38 AM

Thanks for lending a hand, Newtie. :) Glad you made it back.
thatsafactjack on July 18, 2014 at 1:35 AM

Not a problem, Jackie! CL can tell you I knows me some HTML coding… ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on July 18, 2014 at 1:38 AM

Dire Straits on July 18, 2014 at 1:36 AM

Good evening, Dire. :) Excellent to see you. Did you see our little bump in formatting earlier?

thatsafactjack on July 18, 2014 at 1:38 AM

Newtie and the Beauty on July 18, 2014 at 1:34 AM

evening..
it would take a note and go goofy and then like you
I tried another browser and it would take one and…
well you get the point…

ps..between browser shifting I stopped at the bar…winks..
please put one on my tab…

going2mars on July 18, 2014 at 1:39 AM

Thanks for your help too Miss Newtie.

31giddyup on July 18, 2014 at 1:39 AM

williamg, what browser and OS were you on when so many of us were having problems?

non-nonpartisan on July 18, 2014 at 1:39 AM

Schadenfreude on July 18, 2014 at 1:38 AM

Fantastico! Bravo, Paladin. :)

thatsafactjack on July 18, 2014 at 1:40 AM

Hey Dire…

OmahaConservative on July 18, 2014 at 1:40 AM

I’ve got some time this evening, and the oddness of the ‘glitch’ was intriguing.
thatsafactjack on July 18, 2014 at 1:37 AM

There I was, minding my own business, happy as a clam, and things went FUBAR. I closed the browser, cleared cookies and cache, went to log back in and had to do a search to find an old Open Registration thread to log back in.

Then my First Amendment Protection went on vacation–but Axe showed me The Way… ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on July 18, 2014 at 1:41 AM

That strange incident was probably Axe, or maybe Parms fault…

oscarwilde on July 18, 2014 at 1:41 AM

Thanks for your help too Miss Newtie.
31giddyup on July 18, 2014 at 1:39 AM

(((HUGS)))

Newtie and the Beauty on July 18, 2014 at 1:42 AM

thatsafactjack on July 18, 2014 at 1:34 AM

how about we settle with

vintage port n chocolate cant hurt…
on your way to love city…
(schoouch you drive a hard deal)

are you the Moon Goddess there too??

going2mars on July 18, 2014 at 1:42 AM

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