Quotes of the day

posted at 10:41 pm on July 17, 2014 by Allahpundit

A Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 with 295 people aboard was likely shot down by an antiaircraft missile before it crashed and burned on Thursday in an eastern Ukraine wheat field near the Russian border, in an area roiled by fighting between pro-Russian separatists and Ukrainian forces…

Reporters arriving at the scene near the town of Grabovo described dozens of lifeless bodies strewn about, mostly intact, in a field dotted with purple flowers, with remnants of the plane scattered across a road lined with fire engines and emergency vehicles. “It fell down in pieces,” said one rescue worker as tents were set up to gather the dead.

One passenger in a black sweater lay on her back, with blood streaming down her face and her left arm raised. The carcass of the plane was still smoldering, and rescue workers moved through the dark field with flashlights. Dogs barked in the distance, and the air was filled with a bitter smell.

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Arizona Republican Senator John McCain claimed there would be “hell to pay” if Russia or its separatist allies shot down a Malaysian civilian airliner in eastern Ukraine on Thursday — though he cautioned it remains unclear who exactly is responsible…

“I think the repercussions are incalculably huge,” McCain told Mitchell. “But remember that the Russians have already — or separatists, either Russian or separatist, and they’re really one and the same — have already shot down several aircraft of the Ukrainians . . . So this is part of a pattern.”

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The Ukrainian government and pro-Russian separatist rebels in eastern Ukraine immediately blamed each other for the crash, which occurred as the Boeing 777 was flying its regular route from Amsterdam to the Malaysian capital, Kuala Lumpur…

Hours later, a U.S. official said American intelligence agencies had confirmed that the plane was shot down by a surface-to-air missile. The official, who was not authorized to speak on the record about an early intelligence assessment, said government analysts were scrambling to determine who fired the missile.

“This is a contested area,” the official said. “It’s going to take time to get some information on the intentions of whoever was involved.”

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A Kremlin statement early Friday said Putin opened a meeting with his economic advisers by calling for a moment of silence over the crash.

Then, he said, “This tragedy would not have happened if there were peace on this land, if the military actions had not been renewed in southeast Ukraine. And, certainly, the state over whose territory this occurred bears responsibility for this awful tragedy.”

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Ukraine has already accused Russia of shooting down the Malaysia Airlines flight that crashed near the Russian border, raising questions about whether it can conduct an objective investigation into the disaster.

“The plane was shot down, because the Russian air defense systems was affording protection to Russian mercenaries and terrorists in this area,” the Ukranian Foreign Ministry said in a statement, according to ABC News. “Ukraine will present the evidence of Russian military involvement into the Boeing crash.”

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Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777-200 flying from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur was allegedly shot down by a group of Russian-backed Cossack militants near the village of Chornukhine, Luhansk Oblast, some 80 kilometers north-west of Donetsk, according to recordings of intercepted phone calls between Russian military intelligence officers and members of terrorist groups, released by the country’s security agency (SBU)…

“It’s 100 percent a passenger (civilian) aircraft,” Major is recorded as saying, as he admitted to seeing no weapons on site. “Absolutely nothing. Civilian items, medicinal stuff, towels, toilet paper.”

In the third part of conversation Cossack commander Nikolay Kozitsin talking to an unidentified militant cynically suggests that the Malaysia Airlines airplane could’ve been carrying spies, as, otherwise, it would have no business flying in that area.

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There is one important reason Ukrainian authorities are so sure that pro-Russian rebels shot down a Malaysia Airlines jet: An account on the Russian social network Vkontakte, which relays official dispatches from insurgent military leader Igor Girkin, aka Strelkov, boasted about the rebels shooting down a plane at about the time of the crash

The Vkontakte account reported at 5:37 p.m. Moscow time (4:37 in Donetsk) that a large plane — identified as an Antonov An-26 transport plane, “has just been shot down near Snizhne,” a town close to where the Malaysia Airlines plane went down. This appears to be an edited version of a gloating post that is available only in screen shots now (I have one). In that initial version, the post went on: “We warned them not to fly in our skies. And here’s a video of another bird going down. The bird fell behind a coal heap, residential areas were not hit, peaceful people did not suffer.”

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Armed with Man-Portable Air Defense Systems (MANPADS), the separatists have been taking down Ukrainian military aircraft since the beginning of June. On June 13, separatists shot down a Ukrainian transport plane that had been carrying 40 paratroopers and nine crew members.

At least 10 other Ukrainian aircraft — all of them significantly lower-flying than a Boeing 777 — have been shot down since the rebels started using MANPADS according to a count kept by military aviation expert David Cenciotti, including five Mi-24 Hinds, two Mi-8 helicopters, one An-2, one An-30, and the Ukrainian transport plane.

Pro-Russian rebels claimed responsibility for shooting down two additional Ukrainian Su-25 fighters on Wednesday. The Ukrainian Defense Ministry reported that one of the jets was hit by a portable surface-to-air missile.

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Putin cannot be happy about this turn of events. After all, things were going more or less according to plan up to now. Yesterday’s reasonably robust round of U.S. sanctions was accompanied by a set of comparatively meek European ones consisting mostly of a moratorium on development aid. Putin was doing his best to portray himself as a responsible statesman, in contrast to the reckless Western interests that goaded Kiev into civil war. He even went so far as to say that his door was always open for further negotiations. With the fog of war descending over eastern Ukraine, it was starting to look like he would be able to keep the region on a low simmer while the world was distracted by hotter conflicts elsewhere.

As of right now, that looks less likely. While it’s always dangerous to underestimate the divisions in Europe, if any kind of definitive intelligence linking Russia to this tragedy emerges, it will be much harder for skeptical Europeans to remain straddling the fence.

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“The Ukrainian government reports that 23 Americans were aboard the plane, and that more than 300 people were killed in the crash.”

The Americans on the plane had no connection to Russia or Ukraine, and took no risks other than booking a flight from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur. Now they’re dead. It’s quite possible pro-Russian separatists killed our fellow citizens. What will the consequence be?

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This also seems to prove that Russia has lost control of the rebels, who have been complaining for some time of being abandoned by President Vladimir Putin. There is no way that, a day after criticizing the recklessness of American foreign policy, his military shoots down a passenger plane. Rather, it seems that the rebels made a mistake that paints Putin into a corner. Putin hates corners, and when he’s backed into one, he tends to lash out. He especially hates to do or say what is expected of him, and to give in to outside pressure. So though he has already expressed his condolences to the Malaysian government, don’t expect him to do anything swift or decisive. He will likely do something to punish the rebels after the spotlight moves on to the next global crisis.

My first reaction to this was that this is a game-changer, and it’s a game-changer in that it drags in the outside world, but it’s hard to see what the consequences of this could be. Even if and when the evidence is marshalled to point to the rebels, what can the West do to punish them? What can it do to punish Russia for giving them these capabilities? What can it do to end the conflict? More sanctions? Putin’s been blowing them off and they haven’t altered his calculus all that much. A peacekeeping mission? There is still no appetite for boots on the ground and Russia still has that U.N. veto. Even if the U.S. gives Ukraine lethal military aid, it in no way guarantees that Kiev’s military will be able to crush the separatists, especially not without some bloody, horrific urban warfare. The plane went down, raised the stakes, but what can the West—or Moscow—really do about it?

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Schadenfreude

Bmore on July 17, 2014 at 11:16 PM

Bmore

Schadenfreude on July 17, 2014 at 11:16 PM

weedisgood on July 17, 2014 at 10:48 PM

On this we can agree.

wifarmboy on July 17, 2014 at 11:16 PM

“Mr. Gorbachev. Tear down this wall!” to:

White House on downed Malaysia Airlines plane: ‘We urge all concerned – Russia, the pro-Russian separatists, and Ukraine – to support an immediate cease-fire in order to ensure safe and unfettered access to the crash site for international investigators and in order to facilitate the recovery of remains’ – @WhiteHouse

davidk on July 17, 2014 at 11:17 PM

Anyone see Schadenfreude recently?

Bmore on July 17, 2014 at 11:16 PM

He was posting a lot earlier today.

Rix on July 17, 2014 at 11:17 PM

#obamacallingitin

Schadenfreude on July 17, 2014 at 11:17 PM

Schadenfreude on July 17, 2014 at 11:16 PM

Just checking. ; )

Bmore on July 17, 2014 at 11:17 PM

I killed 2 mice today.

crankyoldlady on July 17, 2014 at 10:43 PM

Did you eat them or did you let them go to waste?

FeralCat on July 17, 2014 at 11:18 PM

Bmore on July 17, 2014 at 11:17 PM

They haven’t executed me, yet.

Schadenfreude on July 17, 2014 at 11:18 PM

GazProm only supplies 30% of European gas, and fracking can take up the slack; in two years, the dependency will be diminished, and by then we will hopefully have a President capable of taking care of the problem.

Rix on July 17, 2014 at 11:13 PM

.
You haven’t stated it but you obviously understand that Gazprom can push the EU into a full blown depression if they cut off ALL gas supplies.

Europe is not the U.S. – they don’t have enough fracking coming online soon enough to be able to ignore the Russian economic threat.

PolAgnostic on July 17, 2014 at 11:18 PM

[sends out another round of Whatchudrinkin's...usual caveats apply...enters under "Dust My Broom"...]

Newtie and the Beauty on July 17, 2014 at 11:18 PM

Bmore,

My pal SP got an incra ts ls system for his table saw. He showed it to me and man its great.

Parmenides on July 17, 2014 at 11:19 PM

Just checking. ; )

Bmore on July 17, 2014 at 11:17 PM

Understandable.

KCB on July 17, 2014 at 11:19 PM

Putin is just testing his toys.

This communist thug will have his day hell no doubt about it.

◄ Genesis 4:10 ►
And he said, What hast thou done? the voice of thy brother’s blood crieth unto me from the ground.

weedisgood on July 17, 2014 at 10:48 PM

Thank god we have Obama to protect us…

The Bible thumper his is….

Electrongod on July 17, 2014 at 11:20 PM

Schadenfreude on July 17, 2014 at 11:18 PM

Good.

Bmore on July 17, 2014 at 11:20 PM

Jar jar binks would be a better president and I might add far less annoying.

Parmenides on July 17, 2014 at 10:58 PM

Me-sa thinks you right, da Greeka mon!

Doc Holliday on July 17, 2014 at 11:04 PM

Ok. Let’s forget that “far less annoying” bit.

jim56 on July 17, 2014 at 11:20 PM

They haven’t executed me, yet.

Schadenfreude on July 17, 2014 at 11:18 PM

they want to torment us all a lot more before they start that part.

VorDaj on July 17, 2014 at 11:20 PM

davidk on July 17, 2014 at 11:17 PM

The problem with such investigations is that they always find what their salary-payers want them to find. While I saw massive proof of rebels being responsible on their own websites, I trust these investigations no farther than I can throw them.

Rix on July 17, 2014 at 11:21 PM

We are going to rename this “National Facepalm Day” in honor of our clueless leader.
A BIG FACEPALM
Doc Holliday on July 17, 2014 at 11:07 PM

I’m a wee bit more subtle in my approach… ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on July 17, 2014 at 11:22 PM

Rix on July 17, 2014 at 11:06 PM

I’ve been reading the comments on LiveLeak. Lots of condolences from a bunch of not normally very serious types. Paying a lot of respects to commenters from The Netherlands.

I was actually looking for a few of the regular idiots trying to make the claim the CIA was behind it to post here. But actually, the lion’s share of the comments lean towards condemning the Russians and Putin.

Wonders never cease.

hawkdriver on July 17, 2014 at 11:23 PM

I once complained about a lack of leadership in a situation. My younger son said to me “There is never a lack of leadership. Leadership always exists. It may not be the kind you want or need or are hoping for, but it always exists.”

I think that was a valid point.

lineholder on July 17, 2014 at 11:08 PM

It totally is. Every decision a person makes is sending a message about what’s being valued at that moment.

non-nonpartisan on July 17, 2014 at 11:23 PM

The man rocks! He truly does!

lineholder on July 17, 2014 at 11:13 PM

Absolutely. Jindal for prez.

crankyoldlady on July 17, 2014 at 11:24 PM

I killed 2 mice today.
crankyoldlady on July 17, 2014 at 10:43 PM

Behold! I give you Artemis! ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on July 17, 2014 at 11:24 PM

My shop vac is very powerful but it sucked up something the other day that made it burp. When I open it up I saw Kens widdle shop vac inside. Swallowed it whole. Burp. Q

Parmenides on July 17, 2014 at 11:25 PM

So – WHERE’s All The Media Conspiracy Theorists On This?

Or The Tools Tying This Back To RACISM??? Or Sarah Palin?

williamg on July 17, 2014 at 11:06 PM

Didn’t you hear??

Palin saw the jetliner from Alaska and brought it down..

ToddPA on July 17, 2014 at 11:25 PM

Schadenfreude on July 17, 2014 at 11:18 PM

Schad, I put that little piece up over at RS with the hashtags and email for the protests tomorrow. Got pretty irritated with one of the mods over there because he said it was a lose/lose scenario to even do the protests (‘cuz LSM will scream “racist”) And RS is supposed to be a site for Conservative activism. Not so much any more, I guess.

Anyway, it got me to thinking, about sites that actually post these kinds of events that are going on at various times. I looked around but didn’t find one. You mentioned to someone else that you were involved in a lot of activities.

Do you know of a site that does a solid job with this?

lineholder on July 17, 2014 at 11:25 PM

You haven’t stated it but you obviously understand that Gazprom can push the EU into a full blown depression if they cut off ALL gas supplies.

Europe is not the U.S. – they don’t have enough fracking coming online soon enough to be able to ignore the Russian economic threat.

PolAgnostic on July 17, 2014 at 11:18 PM

I believe it will do Europe a lot of good, at a cost of people suffering through a cold winter. Come spring they will listen more to business people and less to their envirowhackos. Remember the gas crisis of the seventies? People suffered but the country emerged from it with improved technologies, better cars, and clearer understanding of who the enemy was (too bad we forgot it soon).

Rix on July 17, 2014 at 11:26 PM

Behold! I give you Artemis! ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on July 17, 2014 at 11:24 PM

It wasn’t hard. I set the traps. I had no idea I had mice and now it looks like I have several. The cats would have to get under the trailer to catch them. They have been known to get them outside. I found a long dead one under the lawn mower.

crankyoldlady on July 17, 2014 at 11:26 PM

My shop vac is very powerful but it sucked up something the other day that made it burp. When I open it up I saw Kens widdle shop vac inside. Swallowed it whole. Burp. Q

Parmenides on July 17, 2014 at 11:25 PM

My shop vac was in very cold water. Very. Cold. Ice. Cold.

KCB on July 17, 2014 at 11:27 PM

davidk on July 17, 2014 at 11:17 PM

The problem with such investigations is that they always find what their salary-payers want them to find. While I saw massive proof of rebels being responsible on their own websites, I trust these investigations no farther than I can throw them.

Rix on July 17, 2014 at 11:21 PM

And I trust the “investigation” even less now:

Pro-Russian separatists claimed to have found the ‘black box’ – which records vital flight information – of the downed passenger airliner MH17.

According to Russian news agency Interfax, First Deputy Prime Minister Andriy Purgin of the breakaway Donestsk Republic said the box will be transferred to Moscow for examination.

‘Of course, we most likely will give them to the Interstate Aviation Committee (IAC), to Moscow. They are highly qualified experts who will be able to accurately determine the cause of the disaster, even though it is so clear,’ he said.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2696631/Pro-Russian-separatists-thought-shot-MH17-claim-flights-black-box-say-sent-Moscow.html

davidk on July 17, 2014 at 11:27 PM

Parmenides on July 17, 2014 at 11:25 PM

LOL. Good evening, funny Greek man! How are you tonight?

lineholder on July 17, 2014 at 11:27 PM

Dear Twerp. I know someone who murdered two defenseless meeces just to get their fur.

Parmenides on July 17, 2014 at 11:27 PM

Parmenides on July 17, 2014 at 11:19 PM

Schweet…must be doing a lot of cabinet work. ; )

Bmore on July 17, 2014 at 11:27 PM

I can understand why the media doesn’t know how many Americans are on board, the Netherlands is so remote and dangerous.

faraway on July 17, 2014 at 11:27 PM

crankyoldlady on July 17, 2014 at 11:26 PM

Did you try peanut butter?

Newtie and the Beauty on July 17, 2014 at 11:28 PM

KCB on July 17, 2014 at 11:19 PM

I detected a noticeable absence. I worry.

Bmore on July 17, 2014 at 11:28 PM

I can understand why the media doesn’t know how many Americans are on board, the Netherlands is so remote and dangerous.
faraway on July 17, 2014 at 11:27 PM

Or our State Dept dropped the ball…

Newtie and the Beauty on July 17, 2014 at 11:30 PM

non-nonpartisan on July 17, 2014 at 11:23 PM

It also explains why we would feel it as a void. Obama wants to fundamentally transform this nation of ours. HIs priorities and goals are not along the same lines that our President have traditionally had. So of course to us, it would look like a void when it really is just a different kind of leadership.

lineholder on July 17, 2014 at 11:30 PM

I detected a noticeable absence. I worry.

Bmore on July 17, 2014 at 11:28 PM

Completely understandable.

KCB on July 17, 2014 at 11:30 PM

hawkdriver on July 17, 2014 at 11:23 PM

Blowing up a civilian airplane without enjoying progressive MSM’s support (like Palestinians do) will do a vast damage to one’s image. Even cold-hearted people like me don’t take lightly to crimes of such magnitude and insolence.

Rix on July 17, 2014 at 11:31 PM

KCB on July 17, 2014 at 11:27 PM

Lolz. It had the George Costanzo shrinkage problem. That’s why Axe jumps in a hot tub when he sees Sophie.

Parmenides on July 17, 2014 at 11:32 PM

Absolutely. Jindal for prez.

crankyoldlady on July 17, 2014 at 11:24 PM

Don’t I wish!!! The man is a trouble-shooter and problem-solver!!!

lineholder on July 17, 2014 at 11:32 PM

Did you try peanut butter?

Newtie and the Beauty on July 17, 2014 at 11:28 PM

Cheese. I don’t think it matters what one uses. They’ll eat about anything.

crankyoldlady on July 17, 2014 at 11:33 PM

Bmore on July 17, 2014 at 11:28 PM

There was a disturbance in the force. Hehe.

Parmenides on July 17, 2014 at 11:33 PM

Dear Twerp. I know someone who murdered two defenseless meeces just to get their fur.

Parmenides on July 17, 2014 at 11:27 PM

.
I guess I better not mention the Peppy LePew I assassinated last night with an evil black weapon.

PolAgnostic on July 17, 2014 at 11:33 PM

I guess I better not mention the Peppy LePew I assassinated last night with an evil black weapon.
PolAgnostic on July 17, 2014 at 11:33 PM

The Camaro or the Yugo?

Newtie and the Beauty on July 17, 2014 at 11:34 PM

I opened the back door this morning and there was a racoon.

crankyoldlady on July 17, 2014 at 11:35 PM

Cheese. I don’t think it matters what one uses. They’ll eat about anything.
crankyoldlady on July 17, 2014 at 11:33 PM

Peanut butter doesn’t get rancid, attract bugs or gets green… ;-)

Trust me, COL…the meeces will go for it…

Newtie and the Beauty on July 17, 2014 at 11:36 PM

Obama wants to fundamentally transform this nation of ours. HIs priorities and goals are not along the same lines that our President have traditionally had. So of course to us, it would look like a void when it really is just a different kind of leadership.

lineholder on July 17, 2014 at 11:30 PM

Obama’s priorities are in line with those of Lincoln, Wilson, FDR, and LBJ.

Rix on July 17, 2014 at 11:36 PM

lineholder on July 17, 2014 at 11:27 PM

I’m peachy. Wow I love your lip gloss but I’m afraid if we smooch it will incriminate me from getting smooches from all the other hotties. Maybe if you all put on the same lip gloss then no one will know whom the culprit is,

Sometimes my brain amazes my brain.

Parmenides on July 17, 2014 at 11:36 PM

I opened the back door this morning and there was a racoon.
crankyoldlady on July 17, 2014 at 11:35 PM

o_O

Artemis AND Marlin Perkins…

Newtie and the Beauty on July 17, 2014 at 11:37 PM

Expected announcement tomorrow morning:

“The Ukranian borders and airspace are secure.” — Harry Reid (Pederast – NV)

ShainS on July 17, 2014 at 11:37 PM

Trust me, COL…the meeces will go for it…

Newtie and the Beauty on July 17, 2014 at 11:36 PM

I know they will. I just have some cheese I want to get rid of.

crankyoldlady on July 17, 2014 at 11:37 PM

I opened the back door this morning and there was a racoon.

crankyoldlady on July 17, 2014 at 11:35 PM

Well, did you slam the door or welcome the President in?

TXUS on July 17, 2014 at 11:38 PM

I hate racoons and opposums. Creepy things.

crankyoldlady on July 17, 2014 at 11:38 PM

I opened the back door this morning and there was a racoon.

crankyoldlady on July 17, 2014 at 11:35 PM

Filthy vermin. I dispose of them any way I can.

wifarmboy on July 17, 2014 at 11:38 PM

Obama’s priorities are in line with those of Lincoln, Wilson, FDR, and LBJ.
Rix on July 17, 2014 at 11:36 PM

Honest Abe, not so much…

Newtie and the Beauty on July 17, 2014 at 11:39 PM

Obama’s priorities are in line with those of Lincoln, Wilson, FDR, and LBJ.

Rix on July 17, 2014 at 11:36 PM

In what ways is that true?

The biggest difference I can see is all of those former President cared about seeing this nation succeed. I’m not sure that Obama cares either way, and often thinks he leans more towards wanting us to fail.

lineholder on July 17, 2014 at 11:39 PM

I hate racoons and opposums. Creepy things.

crankyoldlady on July 17, 2014 at 11:38 PM

Possums are OK, raccoons are not…

OmahaConservative on July 17, 2014 at 11:39 PM

For the record, barerock obama is every bit as annoying as Jar Jar Binks. Probably more.

obama

Jar Jar Binks Mesa LIV.

hawkdriver on July 17, 2014 at 11:40 PM

I wondered if raccoon had 2 c’s but I was too lazy to look it up.

crankyoldlady on July 17, 2014 at 11:41 PM

Parmenides on July 17, 2014 at 11:36 PM

ROFL. What if I just wipe the lip gloss off?

lineholder on July 17, 2014 at 11:41 PM

Parmenides on July 17, 2014 at 11:33 PM


The ebb and flow.

Bmore on July 17, 2014 at 11:41 PM

‘Toons of the Day: Have Pen and Phone; Will Babble!

Resist We Much on July 17, 2014 ‘Toons of the Day: Have Pen and

Ramirez is the best.

J. is right, about the 2nd Malaysian Boeing being downed, and there will be a 3rd Malaysian disaster, or a Boeing 3rd one…wondering what source.

Schadenfreude on July 17, 2014 at 11:41 PM

I know they will. I just have some cheese I want to get rid of.
crankyoldlady on July 17, 2014 at 11:37 PM

Oh, well…in that case, be my guest, by all means… ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on July 17, 2014 at 11:41 PM

It also explains why we would feel it as a void. Obama wants to fundamentally transform this nation of ours. HIs priorities and goals are not along the same lines that our President have traditionally had. So of course to us, it would look like a void when it really is just a different kind of leadership.

lineholder on July 17, 2014 at 11:30 PM

I don’t dispute this. At the same time, however, I will add that “lack of leadership” can have a pertinent connotation of, “I have an idea of what would be best to do, but I don’t want to make a firm decision right now either because I’m afraid it may box me in somehow at a later date, or because I perceive it’s more responsibility than I feel I can handle.”

Some people just hate being wrong, or the center of attention, which can end up paralyzing them.

non-nonpartisan on July 17, 2014 at 11:41 PM

Is the bar open yet?

crankyoldlady on July 17, 2014 at 11:42 PM

The link to the hotly worded letter fom the WH to Putin, would be greatly appreciated.

/

socalcon on July 17, 2014 at 11:42 PM

PolAgnostic on July 17, 2014 at 11:33 PM

I’ll keep it a secret. Just don’t kill any Texas chipmunks or Jewish sea otters. They might be part of Twerps extended family.

Parmenides on July 17, 2014 at 11:42 PM

This also seems to prove that Russia has lost control of the rebels, who have been complaining for some time of being abandoned by President Vladimir Putin.

Bull-fu*cking-shit!!!

TXUS on July 17, 2014 at 10:45 PM

Oy. If nothing else you have to admire the tenacity of the Russian supporters on the internets. Those poor chickens!

slickwillie2001 on July 17, 2014 at 11:43 PM

Is the bar open yet?

crankyoldlady on July 17, 2014 at 11:42 PM

It closes?

KCB on July 17, 2014 at 11:43 PM

crankyoldlady on July 17, 2014 at 11:42 PM

Why, do you want to kill some bar mice?

Parmenides on July 17, 2014 at 11:43 PM

hawkdriver on July 17, 2014 at 11:40 PM

Once he found his confidence and had a couple of battles under his belt, Jar Jar was pretty darn successful–zero, not so much…

Newtie and the Beauty on July 17, 2014 at 11:44 PM

I ran over a woodchuck/groundhog this morning. They are as stupid as squirrels and just stop in the middle of the street and stare at you…

OmahaConservative on July 17, 2014 at 11:44 PM

Is the bar open yet?
crankyoldlady on July 17, 2014 at 11:42 PM

[sends COL a Double Whatchudrinkin'...enters under "Hunting Expedition"...]

Newtie and the Beauty on July 17, 2014 at 11:45 PM

Why, do you want to kill some bar mice?

Parmenides on July 17, 2014 at 11:43 PM

Tipsy mice are easier to catch.

crankyoldlady on July 17, 2014 at 11:45 PM

The Camaro or the Yugo?

Newtie and the Beauty on July 17, 2014 at 11:34 PM


LOL!
The Smith and Wesson M&P15-22 with a subsonic round.

Most S&W stuff carries way too much of a brand premium – but they make one of the best “trainer AR-15′s” (i.e. 22LR caliber) and they are extremely accurate and at the low end of the price curve in that particular market.

I give ALL varmints at least one humane warning – even Peppy got one – but instead of staying away after I chased him down the hill, he was on the back walkout a few minutes AFTER his first warning.

PolAgnostic on July 17, 2014 at 11:45 PM

I ran over a woodchuck/groundhog this morning. They are as stupid as squirrels and just stop in the middle of the street and stare at you…
OmahaConservative on July 17, 2014 at 11:44 PM
How did you waffle the critter, OC? Truck?

Newtie and the Beauty on July 17, 2014 at 11:46 PM

Schadenfreude on July 17, 2014 at 11:41 PM

Ramirez has been extra great as of late. I really have enjoyed the illegal stuff.

Bmore on July 17, 2014 at 11:46 PM

Omg. I hope Twerp isn’t downwind of the road kill. She will know who dun it from the bumper guts.

Parmenides on July 17, 2014 at 11:48 PM

Some people just hate being wrong, or the center of attention, which can end up paralyzing them.

non-nonpartisan on July 17, 2014 at 11:41 PM

With Obama, I could see your first premise being true and your second premise being false. He has narcissistic tendencies, and they absolutely hate being wrong about anything. They’ll go to great extremes to avoid having to own to being wrong, and shift it off to other people in every way they can find.

OTOH, they are totally self-absorbed. The world revolved around them. They have an incredibly limited worldview.

But I still think the fact that his goals and objectives are totally alien to what our Presidents of the past have been prone to pursue that this makes it seem like a lack of leadership from our perspective when leadership of a different kind exists.

lineholder on July 17, 2014 at 11:48 PM

I ran over a woodchuck/groundhog this morning. They are as stupid as squirrels and just stop in the middle of the street and stare at you…

OmahaConservative on July 17, 2014 at 11:44 PM

Who needs a gun. There’s a stray around here I think should be killed. He used to be mild mannered just coming around for free food but lately he’s getting aggressive. I hope he doesn’t have rabies or something.

crankyoldlady on July 17, 2014 at 11:48 PM

blah blah blah! It’s QOTD time!

coolrepublica on July 17, 2014 at 10:48 PM

Shut the hell up and eat your chicken.

slickwillie2001 on July 17, 2014 at 11:48 PM

The lunatic is in the hall.
The lunatics are in my hall.
The paper holds their folded faces to the floor
And every day the paper boy brings more.

Was listening to this up working in the shop today. Seemed all too appropriate.

trigon on July 17, 2014 at 11:48 PM

I give ALL varmints at least one humane warning – even Peppy got one – but instead of staying away after I chased him down the hill, he was on the back walkout a few minutes AFTER his first warning.
PolAgnostic on July 17, 2014 at 11:45 PM

Some things just don’t take “GET OUTTAHERE! GIT! GO! AWAY!” for an answer…

Newtie and the Beauty on July 17, 2014 at 11:49 PM

I ran over a woodchuck/groundhog this morning. They are as stupid as squirrels and just stop in the middle of the street and stare at you…

OmahaConservative on July 17, 2014 at 11:44 PM

You sure it wasn’t a troll you ran over?

TXUS on July 17, 2014 at 11:49 PM

Newtie and the Beauty on July 17, 2014 at 11:46 PM

Bwaaahh. Waffle the critter.

Parmenides on July 17, 2014 at 11:49 PM

Were Americans on board or not?

Obama will do nothing… he has painted himself into a corner with every single country and the only options are, all out war, or nothing. Because he has lost clout and the mystery that keeps all relationships together.

It is predictable that Obama will do nothing, so he has no option other than doing nothing.

Not one despot wonders if Obama will come for them. He won’t. And they know it.

petunia on July 17, 2014 at 11:49 PM

The Jerk

Bmore on July 17, 2014 at 11:50 PM

I’m a wee bit more subtle in my approach… ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on July 17, 2014 at 11:22 PM

hahahahahaha!!

williamg on July 17, 2014 at 11:50 PM

In what ways is that true?

The biggest difference I can see is all of those former President cared about seeing this nation succeed. I’m not sure that Obama cares either way, and often thinks he leans more towards wanting us to fail.

lineholder on July 17, 2014 at 11:39 PM

All five of them cared about nothing but increase of their personal power, and that of the government. Whether either of them truly loved this country, we will likely never know.

Rix on July 17, 2014 at 11:50 PM

Uhm. Axe, please wipe the peanut butter off the submit button. Some people are allergic.

Parmenides on July 17, 2014 at 11:51 PM

Retweeted by Noah Rothman
Peter Baker ‏@peterbakernyt 35m

WH’s @PressSec says Obama was held on Air Force One at Andrews “due to a suspicious package” at the White House.

Bmore on July 17, 2014 at 11:51 PM

How did you waffle the critter, OC? Truck?

Newtie and the Beauty on July 17, 2014 at 11:46 PM

Yup. Woodchucks are very much a nuisance…

OmahaConservative on July 17, 2014 at 11:52 PM

OmahaConservative on July 17, 2014 at 11:44 PM

Sounds like possums.

I worked with a guy who hated possums so much that if he saw one sitting on the side of the road, he would jump his Jeep across the ditch to try to hit it.

Nice guy other than that.

lineholder on July 17, 2014 at 11:52 PM

Pro-Russian separatists claimed to have found the ‘black box’ – which records vital flight information – of the downed passenger airliner MH17.

According to Russian news agency Interfax, First Deputy Prime Minister Andriy Purgin of the breakaway Donestsk Republic said the box will be transferred to Moscow for examination.

‘Of course, we most likely will give them to the Interstate Aviation Committee (IAC), to Moscow. They are highly qualified experts who will be able to accurately determine the cause of the disaster, even though it is so clear,’ he said.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2696631/Pro-Russian-separatists-thought-shot-MH17-claim-flights-black-box-say-sent-Moscow.html

davidk on July 17, 2014 at 11:27 PM

If we ever get the black boxes back from Pooty I expect they will show the missiles struck the plane on the Western border of Ukraine and the plane did a long slow glide to a crash in Eastern Ukraine.

slickwillie2001 on July 17, 2014 at 11:52 PM

Sometimes I’m Right – Sumlin

Good evening, Paladin. :) Wonderful to see you, as always.

On this occasion, the Malaysian liner, wish I wasn’t, but I do agree with you, there’ll likely be a third.

thatsafactjack on July 17, 2014 at 11:52 PM

Hey sharrukin, come out to plaaay…

There is one important reason Ukrainian authorities are so sure that pro-Russian rebels shot down a Malaysia Airlines jet: An account on the Russian social network Vkontakte, which relays official dispatches from insurgent military leader Igor Girkin, aka Strelkov, boasted about the rebels shooting down a plane at about the time of the crash…

The Vkontakte account reported at 5:37 p.m. Moscow time (4:37 in Donetsk) that a large plane — identified as an Antonov An-26 transport plane, “has just been shot down near Snizhne,” a town close to where the Malaysia Airlines plane went down. This appears to be an edited version of a gloating post that is available only in screen shots now (I have one). In that initial version, the post went on: “We warned them not to fly in our skies. And here’s a video of another bird going down. The bird fell behind a coal heap, residential areas were not hit, peaceful people did not suffer.”

Steve Eggleston on July 17, 2014 at 11:53 PM

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