In Dem’s quest to ‘create the next Todd Akin,’ Todd Akin not helping

posted at 2:41 pm on July 17, 2014 by Noah Rothman

The National Journal revealed on Thursday that Democrats believe their best shot at mitigating the damage voters are set to do to their Senate majority is to “create” a new Todd Akin.

“With or without a gaffe, Democrats and advocacy groups are convinced that the contraception fight will help turn out a major voting bloc for Democrats: unmarried single women,” National Journal’s Sophie Novack reported.

This group currently makes up 25.6 percent of the voting-eligible population, according to a report from Democratic pollster Celinda Lake and the Voter Participation Center. A recent poll from Democracy Corps and Women’s Voices Women Vote Action Fund found that when unmarried women are exposed to “in your shoes” messaging, their Democratic margin increases by 14 points and their turnout increases by 10 points.

The report noted that Rep. Renee Ellmers (R-NC) came close to providing Democrats with the ammunition they need to resurrect the War on Women when she told attendees of a recent conference on the GOP’s messaging to women that “Men do tend to talk about things on a much higher level.”

Ellmers’ gender may yet allow her to escape the Akin treatment, but Democrats are on the lookout for any Republican misstatement involving abortion or contraception.

In their quest to manufacture a new Akin, Democrats are receiving no help from the real Akin. The former Missouri Senate candidate is on a media blitz this week promoting his new book, giving interviews to cable news hosts like Fox News’ Megyn Kelly and MSNBC’s Chuck Todd. It is clear that Akin has not internalized the lessons of his “legitimate rape” comments, which cost his party a winnable Senate seat in 2012.

Republican strategists have gone to great lengths to avoid repeating Akin’s mistakes. In January, prospective GOP candidates were sequestered at a two-day summit in which they were “counseled specifically on navigating trouble-prone issues related to women.” Former GOP congressional leadership spokesman Ron Bonjean provided a window into the thinking of Beltway Republicans when he told the National Journal that Akin’s approach to reproductive issues was both “stupid and bad.”

“It would be political malpractice for Republicans to engage with that kind of conversation,” he said. Akin proved Bonjean’s point on Thursday when he was asked by Todd to explain his infamous comments.

“Legitimate rape is a law enforcement term. And it’s abbreviation for legitimate case of rape,” Akin said in his own defense on Thursday. “If I had been choosing my words better, I should have said ‘legitimate case of rape.’ And I have acknowledged that it is a poor choice of words.”

Having taken the bait, Todd did his job and pressed Akin to discuss his thoughts on rape at length. Akin obliged.

In this interview, one focused entirely on sexual assault, Akin gave an extended defense of his action by insisting that former President Bill Clinton allegedly engaged in consequence-free acts of sexual violence.

“Should the child conceived in rape have the same right to life as a child conceived in love?” Akin asked repeatedly. “I had a number of people on my campaign that were children that had grown up that had been conceived in rape.”

“Which, by the way, also undermines your argument that someone the woman’s body shuts down,” Todd observed, citing medical professionals who said there was no truth to Akin’s clinical opinion. The former GOP candidate again bit and went on to defend the scientific basis for the comments which led to Sen. Claire McCaskill’s (D-MO) unlikely reelection.

Todd successfully maneuvered Akin into speaking almost entirely on the morality and legality of abortion in the case of rape, which is exactly what GOP strategists have warned Republican candidates to avoid.

Akin’s performance was no stronger on Fox. There, the former Senate candidate repeatedly defended his original inflammatory comments, a move which indicates that Akin’s claim that his “choice of words” were “poor” is a disingenuous assertion.

“The legitimate rape comment was an abbreviation,” Akin told Kelly on Tuesday night. “It is the idea of a legitimate claim of rape.”

Akin is no longer a political actor. He is promoting a book and attempting to rehabilitate his image. Do his comments suffice to reignite the War on Women? Probably not, but that does not mean they will have no effect on the 2014 cycle.

As National Review’s Jim Geraghty noted:

And fundraising translates into airtime, volunteer outreach, GOTV efforts, and so on. Just as the decision in Hobby Lobby became the center of the Democratic fundraising pitch for a cycle, Akin is as likely to be used to generate Democratic enthusiasm.

But Akin’s reemergence is just as likely to benefit Republicans. His stubborn refusal to refrain from defending the comments which destroyed his political career provide the GOP a model of conduct they are well-advised to avoid emulating.

Experience is the best teacher, and Akin’s experience is one no Republican candidate wants to suffer.


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This is all Mike Huckabees fault.

portlandon on July 17, 2014 at 2:44 PM

Leftist are delusional, if only the DIABLOs would deserve to win.

Schadenfreude on July 17, 2014 at 2:44 PM

Wow, the establishment must be truly desperate to get Akin to get out there to further embarrass himself. Who’s Akin taking advice from, one of Rove’s chins?

Meople on July 17, 2014 at 2:45 PM

It’s all okay. He’s on a mission from God.

aunursa on July 17, 2014 at 2:47 PM

If he’ll just keep talking like that, MSNBC will probably give Akin his own prime-time show through the November election (and if the Democrats manage to salvage the Senate there, they’ll likely renew him through November 2016…)

jon1979 on July 17, 2014 at 2:47 PM

I’m sure Angria Mitchell has offered to edit some audio tapes like she did in the Zimmerman frame-up.

viking01 on July 17, 2014 at 2:48 PM

Ugh. Go away, Todd Akin.

22044 on July 17, 2014 at 2:49 PM

If I were a woman, I’d be fairly offended that the Democrats basically treat me as nothing more than the sum of my reproductive organs. The only women’s issues they really seem to care about are abortion and birth control.

Oh, yeah, they have lip service for “equal pay,” but they do nothing about it, mostly because it’s a bogus argument anyway.

Red Cloud on July 17, 2014 at 2:49 PM

Somebody put a sock in this guy’s pie hole.

Just stop talking.

tru2tx on July 17, 2014 at 2:50 PM

Another example of being ‘stuck on stupid’….

Athos on July 17, 2014 at 2:50 PM

can’t someone get creative with some duct tape and shut this idiot up once and for all?

warmairfan on July 17, 2014 at 2:50 PM

Why do you post this crap? No one watches MSNBC.

fight like a girl on July 17, 2014 at 2:50 PM

In their quest to manufacture a new Akin, Democrats are receiving no help from the real Akin.

Sounds like just the opposite to me.

Bitter Clinger on July 17, 2014 at 2:51 PM

Democrats believe their best shot at mitigating the damage voters are set to do to their Senate majority is to “create” a new Todd Akin

…easy peeasy!

JugEarsButtHurt on July 17, 2014 at 2:51 PM

Noah, do you really f***ing believe that those “single women” who vote against Republicans because of the abortion issue are going to ever vote for Republicans under any circumstances? They will crucify Jesus Christ for a second time if he tells them that abortion is bad… This is the degree how these abortionists worship abortion…

mnjg on July 17, 2014 at 2:52 PM

Well if we were the Democrat Party, we would prevent Todd Achin from speaking publicly. Since however we still try to at least pretend this is a free country, the man is allowed to go on whatever show wants to book him.

Doughboy on July 17, 2014 at 2:52 PM

You cannot have an adult conversation in this country.

If the people of MO voted for a Marxist based solely on a couple of badly-stated arguments by her opponent, they deserve the slavery they get (unfortunately, we all get it too).

Joe Biden is a gaffe machine who gets away with stupid statements on a regular basis, yet somehow he doesn’t get the backlash guys like Akin get.

mankai on July 17, 2014 at 2:52 PM

Akin gave an extended defense of his action by insisting that former President Bill Clinton allegedly engaged in consequence-free acts of sexual violence

Fo’ shizzle?

Next thing you know, this guy is going to insist that the Choom Gang inhaled – intentionally.

corona79 on July 17, 2014 at 2:53 PM

Like Romney, stfu and go away.

Schadenfreude on July 17, 2014 at 2:53 PM

Democrats only support legitimate rapists, not guys who talk about legitimate rape.

mankai on July 17, 2014 at 2:54 PM

Let’s be honest. If after 4 years, people still think that Akin is relevant, then this country doesn’t deserve the blessings of liberty.

nobar on July 17, 2014 at 2:55 PM

Why do you post this crap? No one watches MSNBC.

fight like a girl on July 17, 2014 at 2:50 PM

Either Noah’s clicker is out of batteries or he’s never learned how to change the channel.

Bitter Clinger on July 17, 2014 at 2:55 PM

Yep, don’t care what MSLSD does or who they have on.

I also don’t care what their 4 viewers think, say or do.

Akin does not speak for me or anyone else.

Meople on July 17, 2014 at 2:56 PM

Stop electing these clods and they’ll go away.

Good Lt on July 17, 2014 at 2:56 PM

Stop electing these clods and they’ll go away.

Good Lt on July 17, 2014 at 2:56 PM

That’s just it though. Achin DID lose his election and he still won’t go away. The good news is once his book tour is done and he’s finished selling ones of copies to no one but his family members, he’ll have nothing else left to discuss.

Doughboy on July 17, 2014 at 2:58 PM

Stupid is as Stupid does.
Todd just proves that he’s about the only one who enjoys the sound of his voice, except his political rivals/opponents.
When will this Moron learn to STFU?

Another Drew on July 17, 2014 at 3:00 PM

by insisting that former President Bill Clinton allegedly engaged in consequence-free acts of sexual violence.

Bill Clinton’s rape victim also “insisted” that. Strange word to use.

MNHawk on July 17, 2014 at 3:00 PM

A Book Tour: That poses the question of what kind of an imbecile is working in the book industry to pay this cretin for his words and thoughts?

Another Drew on July 17, 2014 at 3:02 PM

Btw, Todd Akin cost the GOP a sure-thing seat in MO. He didn’t cost them the Senate majority. Plenty of losers among the “electable” establishment candidates they rolled out in ’12.

Bitter Clinger on July 17, 2014 at 3:03 PM

I knew this super abortionist young woman at work years ago… She was an abortionist cultist… Fetuses are only tissues, my productive right to choose whether to keep the tissue or not, etc… and all other crap the abortionists spew… So this young woman got married and she got pregnant… Then she started talking all the time about her pregnancy, how the fetus/baby (no longer a tissue) was growing, when she was due, what she will naming him/her, etc… Yet another example of liberals extreme hypocrisy..

mnjg on July 17, 2014 at 3:04 PM

fight like a girl on July 17, 2014 at 2:50 PM

Because the GOPe wants an excuse to toss social issues into political waste bin, and this gives them the justification to do so.

Never mind that they could gain more female votes by standing up to Dems rather than kowtowing to their narrative. Who the heck cares about that anyway?

Let’s just regurgitate Dem narratives into perpetuity and this will win us elections.///////

lineholder on July 17, 2014 at 3:05 PM

Stop electing these clods and they’ll go away.

Good Lt on July 17, 2014 at 2:56 PM

Yes, the crooks, back-stabbers and liberal, establishment (R)’s like McConnell, Cochran, Boehner, Grahamnesty and McLame are SO much better.

They all need to be thrown out on their azzes.

Meople on July 17, 2014 at 3:07 PM

Does Noah Rothman understand that this is conservative website?

The democrats don’t ‘create’ the Todd Akins of this world. Mr. Akin is decent man who served honorably in congress for 10 years. Unfortunately, he fell face first into a pile of liberal crap trap. And for this he’s an outcast, yet joe biden is vp.

But I would rather have a wooden head like Todd Akin represent me than an on her knees slurping obamanite like Clair Bear.

locomotivebreath1901 on July 17, 2014 at 3:11 PM

Interesting about Huckabee who I like btw, but I don’t like that he was the biggest defender of the extremist Todd Akin, but also now goes the opposite direction in being the biggest defender of the rino (60% ACU record) Lamar Alexander of TN whose primary is August 7th. Is Huckabee a secret amnesty shill?

And here’s an update on Alexander’s primary (from my qotd comment):

There’s been a Titanic shift in the primary race of amesty backer (voted for Rubio’s bill) Senator Lamar Alexander (R-TN):

And on Monday, Ingraham, who was instrumental in powering Dave Brat to his shocking upset over House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-VA), announced that she was “all in for Joe Carr” against Alexander in next month’s primary. Carr has closed the gap and trails Alexander by just seven points.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/07/14/Laura-Ingraham-Pro-Amnesty-Republicans-Not-Off-the-Hook-on-Border-Crisis

Just a few weeks ago Carr was seen as an unlikely longshot down by 30+ points, and then the border crisis hit, bringing Alexander’s amnesty vote to the fore. And voilà.. the latest poll .. which was taken before Ingraham has got on board as a full-fledged supporter of Carr. So, I think we can get this done. Amensty Alexander will fall! More here: http://www.redstate.com/2013/07/05/lamar-alexander-fishing-for-distraction-from-amnesty-vote/

anotherJoe on July 17, 2014 at 3:11 PM

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Oil Can on July 17, 2014 at 3:16 PM

Akin is no longer a political actor. He is promoting a book and attempting to rehabilitate his image. Do his comments suffice to reignite the War on Women? Probably not, but that does not mean they will have no effect on the 2014 cycle.

If one guy, who is not running for office and who is not even a major actor in the Republican Party, can completely destroy Republicans’ chances of election nationwide, then frankly the party deserves to lose and lose hard.

I don’t buy the ridiculous assertion that Akin single-handedly lost us 2012 and I absolutely reject any assertion that if we lose in 2014, Akin will have lost it for us. We lost in 2012 because the Republicans are badly divided from their own base and their GOTV operation is a joke.

Doomberg on July 17, 2014 at 3:16 PM

So, I think we can get this done. Amensty Alexander will fall!
anotherJoe on July 17, 2014 at 3:11 PM

pffft. The Tea Party is dead, don’t you watch TV? /

captnjoe on July 17, 2014 at 3:16 PM

it’s easy to get mad at akin and place lots of blame on him for making republicans look bad, but the headline makes a good point which is that even if akin were not re-emerging, the left would try to “create one.” they are already doing that with the whole “hobby lobby hates women” idea, and that has nothing to do with what akin said or what ellmers said (i didn’t know about her quote before now! but yeah it was stupid. yes i did read the full context).

Ellmers’ gender may yet allow her to escape the Akin treatment,

lol, no. they don’t care that she’s a woman. they will still make her out to be anti-woman.

i don’t believe that she is truly some kind of self-loathing woman hater, though her quote was still stupid. she made generalizations (women care about feelings, men care about data/facts. both of those statements have plenty of exceptions!) and she implied that charts and equations are on a superior intellectual level to feelings and relating to people on a personal level. effectively connecting to people’s emotions is something that takes a lot of intellect actually…

but anyway. if ellmers didn’t say that, and if akin didn’t say those things, the left would just make something up. so it doesn’t matter too much.

Sachiko on July 17, 2014 at 3:17 PM

“He is promoting a book and attempting to rehabilitate his image.”

I don’t know…

… I see this guy hanging out at the public showers at the beach, sniffing his fingers and smiling a lot.

Seven Percent Solution on July 17, 2014 at 3:27 PM

pffft. The Tea Party is dead, don’t you watch TV? /

captnjoe on July 17, 2014 at 3:16 PM

Ah, hats off to another Joe!

Btw, check out the google news on Amnesty Alexander.

Also we note the “anti-establishment” Rand Paul devoting a lot of time to support Lamar Alexander. This would seem to confirm the sincerity of Rand Paul’s latest calls for amnesty.

anotherJoe on July 17, 2014 at 3:28 PM

In Dem’s quest to ‘create the next Todd Akin,’ Todd Akin not helping

Neither are concern troll blog contributors who insist on aiding the dems by pushing the dem meme.

xblade on July 17, 2014 at 3:34 PM

So this young woman got married and she got pregnant… Then she started talking all the time about her pregnancy, how the fetus/baby (no longer a tissue) was growing, when she was due, what she will naming him/her, etc… Yet another example of liberals extreme hypocrisy..

mnjg on July 17, 2014 at 3:04 PM

More like an example of your stupidity. She chose to have a kid. Her position does not prevent her from ever having a child.

Akin is just trying to take his country back guys! Give him a break.

antisense on July 17, 2014 at 3:36 PM

Reptilian.

Rational Thought on July 17, 2014 at 3:39 PM

She chose to have a kid.

antisense on July 17, 2014 at 3:36 PM

Always relieves my mind a bit when I see Liberals admitting the truth about abortion, even when they don’t necessarily intend to do so.

She chose to have a kid, just like choosing to have abortion means choosing to kill the kid, right?

lineholder on July 17, 2014 at 3:39 PM

Neither are concern troll blog contributors who insist on aiding the dems by pushing the dem meme.

xblade on July 17, 2014 at 3:34 PM

Wouldn’t want to expand conservative blog readers knowledge of events now. Learning things is bad. Why, Rush even says he doesn’t watch the news anymore.

Exit idea:

How about Hot Air not post ANY new content and simply allow the current posts to stay forever? That way we can avoid the “rocky ground” of reality that might test our faith?

antisense on July 17, 2014 at 3:40 PM

A recent poll from Democracy Corps and Women’s Voices Women Vote Action Fund found that when unmarried women are exposed to “in your shoes” messaging, their Democratic margin increases by 14 points and their turnout increases by 10 points.

Sorry to say, and with apologies to HA females, that way too many females are simply beyond idiotic. Perhaps women’s suffrage wasn’t such a grand idea after all.

*ducks behind the chair*

Midas on July 17, 2014 at 3:42 PM

locomotivebreath1901 on July 17, 2014 at 3:11 PM

Your ‘clair bear’ ran attack-ads in the GOP primary supporting Akin – he was the candidate she wished with all her purse that she wanted to run against. And the people of MO gave her her wish. Don’t you feel all warm and fuzzy for that.

Another Drew on July 17, 2014 at 3:43 PM

Midas on July 17, 2014 at 3:42 PM

You better run, LOL.

Seriously, notice the source of the polling data?

lineholder on July 17, 2014 at 3:45 PM

Binders full of women or something…..

famous amos on July 17, 2014 at 3:46 PM

Ellmers’ gender may yet allow her to escape the Akin treatment, but Democrats are on the lookout for any Republican misstatement involving abortion or contraception.

Oh please. I’m not among the folks here who think you’re at all left of center Noah, but come on. Have you not been watching?

No matter what any republican says, the leftists will make it sound like an attack on women. And the press will be right there, parroting every word like it was gospel.

Why do you think the press insists on asking irrelevant questions about abortion and birth control of republicans, but only lob staged softballs at fellow leftists?

Because no matter what the republican says, they can say it meant anything they like. And it always makes the republican look like a goof.

So to sum up….I think you’re a solid conservative, and sometimes even a good writer, but the quote above is just naive.

runawayyyy on July 17, 2014 at 3:46 PM

More like an example of your stupidity. She chose to have a kid. Her position does not prevent her from ever having a child.

Akin is just trying to take his country back guys! Give him a break.

antisense on July 17, 2014 at 3:36 PM

Low IQ liberal moron… Her position was that a fetus is only a tissue and can be aborted at any time… When she got pregnant it is not a tissue anymore but a live baby… You f***ing liberals are not only stupid by incredibly hypocrites…

mnjg on July 17, 2014 at 3:48 PM

Exit idea:

How about Hot Air not post ANY new content and simply allow the current posts to stay forever?

Why not? HA has given up on being a “conservative” site.

nobar on July 17, 2014 at 3:50 PM

She chose to have a kid, just like choosing to have abortion means choosing to kill the kid, right?

lineholder on July 17, 2014 at 3:39 PM

Yes, an abortion is killing a baby. Its not that hard to grasp.

antisense on July 17, 2014 at 3:53 PM

Wow, the establishment must be truly desperate to get Akin to get out there to further embarrass himself. Who’s Akin taking advice from, one of Rove’s chins?”

Akin is promoting his book. Is it inconceivable to you that “the establishment” might have little or nothing to do with his media blitz? Or would that realization rob you of another opportunity to launch a sophomoric ad hominem attack?

ricoliv on July 17, 2014 at 3:57 PM

Speaking of Dumbassian politics.

Isn’t it time for Californians to give up showers and all forms of bathing to save water?

All those illegals need more drinky.

PappyD61 on July 17, 2014 at 3:58 PM

Todd Akin needs to drop into a black hole. The man is a scum bag.

Jack_Burton on July 17, 2014 at 3:58 PM

Akin is no worse than Bob Corker or the other pathetic gop.

#gopstillsucking

PappyD61 on July 17, 2014 at 4:00 PM

This is all Mike Huckabees fault.

portlandon on July 17, 2014 at 2:44 PM

And the only reason Mark Pryor has a prayer of a chance in Arkansas is because of evangelicals. How come Huckabee can wade into the Missouri race and keep a guaranteed loser from dropping out, but he can’t stump for Tom Cotton when Republicans are again poised to take the Senate?

ezspirit on July 17, 2014 at 4:05 PM

Todd successfully maneuvered Akin into speaking almost entirely on the morality and legality of abortion in the case of rape, which is exactly what GOP strategists have warned Republican candidates to avoid.

Proving that GOP strategists are stupid.

“Should the child conceived in rape have the same right to life as a child conceived in love?” Akin asked repeatedly. “I had a number of people on my campaign that were children that had grown up that had been conceived in rape.”

A completely valid point. Good for Akin, and shame on the GOP establishment for trying to silence him. Akin has learned the lesson that the GOP has not: when you screw up, and are then incessantly demonized, you acknowledge what you screwed up, and you fight back so that you can make your point. The HA posters condemning him for acknowledging his own failings, clearing up what he bungled, and being willing to stand up for the unborn, are scum.

Stoic Patriot on July 17, 2014 at 4:05 PM

Akin is promoting his book. Is it inconceivable to you that “the establishment” might have little or nothing to do with his media blitz? Or would that realization rob you of another opportunity to launch a sophomoric ad hominem attack?

ricoliv on July 17, 2014 at 3:57 PM

I was mostly posting that to point out the absurdity of this even being posted as an article on HA to begin with. Speaking of which, his book tour is HARDLY news worthy. A point which many others have noted as well.

And, with regard to the establishment being involved in promoting it, I don’t know, some people like you probably slammed and dismissed the idea that Cochran would try to steal the primary in Mississippi with DimocRat voters too.

Guess we all know now how THAT turned out, don’t we?

Meople on July 17, 2014 at 4:06 PM

*banging head* Akin is the gift that keeps on giving. Wonder if Huckabee is still advising him to stay stupid the course.

deepdiver on July 17, 2014 at 4:09 PM

And the only reason Mark Pryor has a prayer of a chance in Arkansas is because of evangelicals. How come Huckabee can wade into the Missouri race and keep a guaranteed loser from dropping out, but he can’t stump for Tom Cotton when Republicans are again poised to take the Senate?

ezspirit on July 17, 2014 at 4:05 PM

Why the hell are evangelicals backing Pryor?

Bitter Clinger on July 17, 2014 at 4:10 PM

And the only reason Mark Pryor has a prayer of a chance in Arkansas is because of evangelicals. How come Huckabee can wade into the Missouri race and keep a guaranteed loser from dropping out, but he can’t stump for Tom Cotton when Republicans are again poised to take the Senate?

ezspirit on July 17, 2014 at 4:05 PM

His PAC has issued this statement:

Huck PAC and I are pleased to endorse Tom Cotton for the United States Senate from Arkansas.

Tom Cotton is a sixth generation Arkansan. Tom was in his final year of law school when the tragic attacks of September 11, 2001 occurred, causing Tom to reconsider his future plans. He joined the United States Army and served almost five years as an active duty Infantry Officer and completed combat tours in both Iraq and Afghanistan.. He currently represents Arkansas’s fourth district in the United States House of Representatives.

Tom is a strong conservative, who is determined to repeal Obamacare. He recognizes that our national debt is a crisis that must be dealt with. He knows that our debt matters because our country is on an unsustainable fiscal path that leads to fiscal ruin – driven by irresponsible spending of money we don’t have. Our debt has grown dramatically over the last 6 years and things are only getting worse.

As a veteran, he strongly supports our military and was opposed to the cuts made to military pensions. Tom recognizes that a strong military is essential to the security of our nation.

Tom embraces the best of traditional Arkansas Values and will work hard to ensure that we protect those fundamental rights, like the right to life, the right to bear arms and speak for those who cannot speak for themselves.

If Cotton wants Huckabee stumping for him, I’m sure the 2 can find a mutually agreeable time.

Stoic Patriot on July 17, 2014 at 4:10 PM

Why do you post this crap? No one watches MSNBC.

Anyone watch Megyn Kelly?

arhooley on July 17, 2014 at 4:12 PM

Context is everything. Someone needs to dial up Jackson Lee and DWS and air that crap. Surely their are any number of feminazi sound bytes lobbying for the Speshul Snoflakiness grand prize – run them. Lets take a real good look at the thought leaders here and put them in the media fishbowl to marinate, like kimchi.

Recon5 on July 17, 2014 at 4:12 PM

Anyone watch Megyn Kelly?

arhooley on July 17, 2014 at 4:12 PM

Yep, as much as I possibly can!

Meople on July 17, 2014 at 4:12 PM

Anyone watch Megyn Kelly?

arhooley on July 17, 2014 at 4:12 PM

OH, you mean her SHOW???

No, didn’t catch it. Did she have him on too?

Meople on July 17, 2014 at 4:14 PM

antisense on July 17, 2014 at 3:53 PM

Well done! I’d rather deal with a honest Liberal than one who lies through their teeth any day of the week.

At least the premise of the argument underlying the topic being discussed is genuinely valid that way. When it’s based on lies, it’s an invalid argument that accomplishes little.

lineholder on July 17, 2014 at 4:17 PM

Democrat women are nothing more than voting vag1nas. Prove me wrong.

CurtZHP on July 17, 2014 at 4:23 PM

I am a strong evangelical Christian, and strongly Pro-life. I also hate the media double-standard about gaffes and taking things out of context. That being said, Christians and conservatives have to acknowledge that double-standard and work within its parameters. When akin allowed himself to be ridiculed and mischaracterized, he should have realized it and stepped down for the good of the country.

He, and his ego, blew it. Because of his refusal to acknowledge that he had blown any chance of winning that race, Obama had enough Senate votes for Obamacare. Akin, you screwed the entire country and the cause of freedom. Even as a strong evangelical Christian, I wish that you would just go away and never be heard from again.

And your ego is getting the better of you once again. You once again do not realize that the Libs are simply playing you and your fat ego. The ONLY reason the MSM are giving you this much airtime to publicize your book and views is to smear other Republicans and to promote the phony “War on women”. Are you really so stupid that you don’t see that?! I have come to the place where I genuinely loathe you. Go Away!!

mydh12 on July 17, 2014 at 4:25 PM

We are such a bunch of wussies.

Do you know how many Todd Akins the Democrats have? They put their crazies on MSNBC and insist they are mainstream. Reed stands up and says, “Our borders are secure”. They parade their Todd Akins in front of camera’s to the point that it’s normal now.

We throw our Todd Akins under the bus, because we are wimps. Our response to anything is RETREAT!

The response from Democrats is reload. That’s why they are winning.

Baggi on July 17, 2014 at 4:25 PM

But just remember: Democrats believe it empowers women when they do not control their sexual passions and then kill the growing babies in their bodies that result from such behavior. (Matt Walsh has an essay on this subject at his blog that is worth reading.) I wish Republicans could exploit this moral insanity.

mbabbitt on July 17, 2014 at 4:34 PM

I am a strong evangelical Christian, and strongly Pro-life. I also hate the media double-standard about gaffes and taking things out of context. That being said, Christians and conservatives have to acknowledge that double-standard and work within its parameters. When akin allowed himself to be ridiculed and mischaracterized, he should have realized it and stepped down for the good of the country.

He, and his ego, blew it. Because of his refusal to acknowledge that he had blown any chance of winning that race, Obama had enough Senate votes for Obamacare. Akin, you screwed the entire country and the cause of freedom. Even as a strong evangelical Christian, I wish that you would just go away and never be heard from again.

And your ego is getting the better of you once again. You once again do not realize that the Libs are simply playing you and your fat ego. The ONLY reason the MSM are giving you this much airtime to publicize your book and views is to smear other Republicans and to promote the phony “War on women”. Are you really so stupid that you don’t see that?! I have come to the place where I genuinely loathe you. Go Away!!

mydh12 on July 17, 2014 at 4:25 PM

Akin, stupid and egotistical as he was (is), his loss had nothing to do with ObamaCare. It passed before he ever ran for Senate. His loss alone didn’t even cause the GOP to lose the majority. They missed by 5 seats.

Bitter Clinger on July 17, 2014 at 4:40 PM

This is why the Democrat monopoly on the old media is still a problem: When a nut bag moronic loser emerges on our side they will give that person the biggest platform they can possibly manufacture and create the impression for LIV that that is how everyone on our side is.

If Akin had the humility and intelligence to recognize he is now a useful idiot for the left and keep his mouth shut then the Dems wouldn’t be able to so easily get away with stuff like this, but then again if Akin possessed the level of intelligence necessary to do that then he might not have said what he said in the first place and he would be a senator today instead of a joke.

alchemist19 on July 17, 2014 at 4:41 PM

Akin is a sick man. He has no self awareness. On the Megyn Kelly interview she tried three times to get the idiot to say he had been at least partially wrong about his fake medical science which was really an old wives tale. Kelly brought a study that shows it is harder to get pregnant when a woman is stressed…but it is not impossible to give him some wiggle room.

Every time Akin started back into a people misunderstood me pretense. No they did not mis-understand him. He had preached a self righteous old white man’s catch-22 that women who are rape victims do not get pregnant, and therefore only women who were not legitimately raped ever ask for abortion exemptions in laws against abortion.

It was like watching a pathetic old Confederate still arguing that the Civil War was never about slavery.

jimw on July 17, 2014 at 4:45 PM

Todd Akin needs to quietly disappear into the sunset, and not ruin the chances of the rest of the Republican Party.

Republicans everywhere need to learn the lessons from Akin’s mistake. In theory, it’s a wonderful moral position to try to save all babies from abortion, including those conceived in rape. But such pro-life purists rarely win elections, except in extremely conservative House districts.

In the real world, a woman pregnant through rape is the victim of a horrific crime, and the child she carries is a horrible 9-month reminder of the terrifying crime and the criminal himself. While a few women may be emotionally strong enough to give birth for the child’s sake, most women in this situation want the option of ridding herself of a pregnancy forced on her by a criminal.

While it’s true that pregnancies through rape are only a small fraction of the number of abortions, many more women (especially those living in high-crime urban areas) FEAR being raped, and don’t want some politician telling them that “if she is raped, she is forced to keep the child”.

For this reason, pro-life Republicans should state that “abortion should be illegal EXCEPT in cases of rape, incest, and danger to the mother’s life”. This would reassure women who fear being raped (or have been sexually assaulted by a father or brother) that they are not forced to carry an unwanted pregnancy, but would also cater to the maternal instinct of women who WANT to care for a child conceived in love.

From the point of view of saving babies, since the number of children conceived by rape or incest is a tiny fraction of the number of abortions, such a position, if enacted, would save the vast majority of babies now aborted. However, since those in favor of a total abortion ban (including children of rape) have very little chance of being elected, a total abortion ban will never be enacted in practice. But a ban on abortions with exceptions for rape, incest, and danger to the mother’s life has about 60% in most polls, so that candidates supporting this position have a good chance of being elected, and voting such a position into law if they control Congress.

Steve Z on July 17, 2014 at 4:47 PM

What a bizarre post this is. Akin will have no effect on the mid-terms and I don’t know why you would think he would.

Vince on July 17, 2014 at 4:47 PM

This was a strong moment. However, RR did this 4 days after the downing of KAL .
Mebbe BO will do better as more facts emerge.

16 minute speech given 4 days after the KAL shoot down. In 4 days this tragedy will be all but forgotten by this president. In any event, it deserved something more than the tasteless treatment given by this empty suit.

Imagine, 16 minutes of RR calling the Soviet Union basically a pack of uncivilized savages and not once did I even think I was being lectured to by some wannabe preacher.

JohnnyL on July 17, 2014 at 4:50 PM

Do not underestimate the damage Akin can do to the party between now and the midterm elections. The fact that people like Ellmers get elected at all is even more troubling.

MaxBC on July 17, 2014 at 4:53 PM

The Demos’ problem is this is the best they can do.

formwiz on July 17, 2014 at 4:53 PM

otherJoe on July 17, 2014 at 3:11 PM

I hope so. I know a lot of Tennesseean’s are pi$$sed at Alexander, but most don’t understand the nuance of the Corker/Alexander playbook. Yeah, they vote against Democrats, but that is after they vote yes on cloture.

I live in TN, and I haven’t seen much of the Carr election in my area. Maybe he is concentrating on other areas.

I do know with a SUPERMAJORITY Repub state like Tennessee, there is no way we should have someone like Alexander or Corker.

Maybe if Alexander is out, Corker will start flying right.

melle1228 on July 17, 2014 at 5:00 PM

This is why the Democrat monopoly on the old media is still a problem

alchemist19 on July 17, 2014 at 4:41 PM

This is actually more of the problem than Akin. I mean how many stupid Dems do we have, and yet hardly anyone hears about their stupidity. I mean Hank Johnson is still in office, and Guam hasn’t tipped yet.

melle1228 on July 17, 2014 at 5:02 PM

From the point of view of saving babies, since the number of children conceived by rape or incest is a tiny fraction of the number of abortions, such a position, if enacted, would save the vast majority of babies now aborted. However, since those in favor of a total abortion ban (including children of rape) have very little chance of being elected, a total abortion ban will never be enacted in practice. But a ban on abortions with exceptions for rape, incest, and danger to the mother’s life has about 60% in most polls, so that candidates supporting this position have a good chance of being elected, and voting such a position into law if they control Congress.

Steve Z on July 17, 2014 at 4:47 PM

If you ban abortion except in the case of rape and incest; then EVERY inconvenient pregnancy suddenly is due to rape or incest. How do you think we got Roe v. Wade?

melle1228 on July 17, 2014 at 5:05 PM

Is this Akin from American Idol, or does he just think he is a American Idol?

Wade on July 17, 2014 at 5:07 PM

Is this guy running for something? If not why is he in the news?

Cindy Munford on July 17, 2014 at 5:10 PM

In Todd Akins’s world, “legitimate (read real) rape” never results in conception. Consequently, the woman that conceives wasn’t really raped…she enjoyed it. That’s the logical bottom line of Akin’s position. And said bottom line is beyond indefensible, scientifically or otherwise. Its reprehensible.

If the GOP is smart (and one wonders), they will find a way to separate themselves from Akin as far as possible.

tgharris on July 17, 2014 at 5:25 PM

Is this guy running for something? If not why is he in the news?

Cindy Munford on July 17, 2014 at 5:10 PM

Because the Democrats can use him.

tgharris on July 17, 2014 at 5:36 PM

and about 2 weeks or so (maybe bit more) after the akin crap NYT ran lot of medical articles dealing with stress and trauma preventing conception.
yet nobody jumped on them.

dmacleo on July 17, 2014 at 6:19 PM

tgharris on July 17, 2014 at 5:36 PM

He must still be annoyed with his former co-workers to allow this.

Cindy Munford on July 17, 2014 at 6:41 PM

Akin’s performance was no stronger on Fox. There, the former Senate candidate repeatedly defended his original inflammatory comments, a move which indicates that Akin’s claim that his “choice of words” were “poor” is a disingenuous assertion.

No stronger? Was that all? Megyn Kelly gave him a chance to walk back his words or explain them in detail, no strings attached. He doubled down, instead. The look on her face as he fumbled to explain what he perceived to be the processes and caveats behind fertilization was priceless. She had this grimacey smile on her face like she was listening to her grandpa talk about the mystical magic of the woman’s hoo-ha. Actually, that’s exactly what he was talking about.

I managed to sit through it with some degree of discomfort. If this is the best the establishment can do, I’d better learn to love Big Brother (preferably before my mind is destroyed). Still, Democrats tried to portray this as some sort of “War on Women” or whatnot, but the truth is quite the opposite: Todd Akin doesn’t think you women are lesser beings–he thinks you’re all sorceresses capable of the kind of arcane magicks that our elders once spoke about in reverential hushed tones by the light of the tribal fire.

mintycrys on July 17, 2014 at 6:43 PM

The only possibility for this lunatic obsession with such groundless and mindless attacks on Akin for telling the irrefutable truth about abortion, albeit clumsily, is the GOP has been taken over by a deranged, lying, lawless, fascist proabort mentality imagining that continuing to lie about him and abortion will make their lies true. When they face God in the Judgment they will rue the day. God save us.

russedav on July 17, 2014 at 6:58 PM

One day – someday – these R politicians who get attacked by the propaganda ObamaCommie Media, will fight back intelligently or at a minimum, obfuscate the discussion and turn it back on the liberal scumbags. Legitimate rape?…….we’ll lets talk about Tawana Brawley and Al NotSoSharpton……and the Duke lacrosse team. Yeah, let’s mention this often, when we get the opportunity….
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After all, it is just media entertainment.

FlaMurph on July 17, 2014 at 9:34 PM

I’d like to know how the GOP advisors want to handle this issue in 2014. I was disappointed with Romney’s campaign in 2012. It ignored the whole abortion issue, then when attacked, ran an ad emphasizing his support of abortion for rape, and saying nothing about general opposition to abortion. This just hands the issue to the Dems.

At a minimum, we need to work the issue where the Dems lack public support: late term abortions, sex selection, abortion as birth control, “Gosnell” and what have you.

There are various ways to address the rape issue when confronted with it. Here are some possibilities:

1. Every issue has its hard cases. Every principle has its testing point. Let’s put aside the hard cases and ask if we can agree that abortion on demand throughout pregnancy is wrong and Roe v. Wade needs to be undone?? Then the state legislatures can address the problem of the hard cases. If you’re defending killing the unborn for any reason, as Roe permits, then that’s our issue, not the hard cases. It’s like arguing against all theft statutes by citing a starving man stealing a loaf of bread from a billionaire.

2. How are you defining “rape” If it’s first degree sexual assault that’s one thing. If it includes, say, drunk co-eds , or ambiguous consent, that’s quite another matter. One extreme feminist even wrote a book arguing that all sex is “Without our Consent” That’s not something that can be addressed in a short Q and A.

3. If you have a rape exception without a reporting requirement, what’s to stop any woman coming along 9 weeks later and saying she was raped. It becomes tantamount to abortion on demand.

4. If rape is reported immediately, standard treatment includes a large dose of what amounts to the morning after pill. which should solve the already infrequent cases where a pregnancy might have resulted.

Ronald Wallenfang on July 17, 2014 at 11:50 PM