Detroit police chief: “There’s no question” that armed citizens are helping to reduce crime in our city

posted at 6:41 pm on July 17, 2014 by Allahpundit

Via Bob Owens at Bearing Arms, a leftover from yesterday that shouldn’t be missed. Detroit PD chief James Craig has spent the past six months encouraging locals to arm themselves, an unusual — and politically perilous — position for a big city police officer to take.

No regrets.

Detroit has experienced 37 percent fewer robberies in 2014 than during the same period last year, 22 percent fewer break-ins of businesses and homes, and 30 percent fewer carjackings. Craig attributed the drop to better police work and criminals being reluctant to prey on citizens who may be carrying guns.

“Criminals are getting the message that good Detroiters are armed and will use that weapon,” said Craig, who has repeatedly said he believes armed citizens deter crime. “I don’t want to take away from the good work our investigators are doing, but I think part of the drop in crime, and robberies in particular, is because criminals are thinking twice that citizens could be armed.

“I can’t say what specific percentage is caused by this, but there’s no question in my mind it has had an effect,” Craig said.

I’ve seen local news clips of Craig talking about concealed carry and crime rates, but offhand I can’t recall seeing a single national news interview with him. That’s curious, as his views on this are provocative and Detroit’s bankruptcy, deterioration, and maybe kinda sorta revival are evergreen subjects of media interest. Maybe I just don’t watch enough TV.

Speaking of local news clips, here’s a reminder that no policy is perfect.


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nonintelligent to shoot his mouth off here in 3…2…1…

Del Dolemonte on July 17, 2014 at 6:43 PM

Del Dolemonte on July 17, 2014 at 6:43 PM

Then could we call him a racist?

cozmo on July 17, 2014 at 6:45 PM

Welcome to GazaDetriot!!
(sarc)

canopfor on July 17, 2014 at 6:46 PM

“An armed society is a polite society.”

~~ Robert Anson Heinlein

RedPepper on July 17, 2014 at 6:47 PM

Welcome to GazaDetriot!!
(sarc)

canopfor on July 17, 2014 at 6:46 PM

Looking better in either of those than Chicago, that’s for sure.

ajacksonian on July 17, 2014 at 6:47 PM

When asked about this, Rahm Emanuel, the Mayor of Chicago…

…covered his ears and walked away muttering ‘I can’t hear you’….

Athos on July 17, 2014 at 6:52 PM

Obama will probably be asking the chief for his resignation……

redguy on July 17, 2014 at 6:53 PM

One wonders why liberals don’t understand that if you disarm the law abiding the only people with weapons are criminals …

… and of course the “progressive” government that wants nothing more than an unarmed populace to really show us what their agenda is.

darwin on July 17, 2014 at 6:53 PM

Always remember that YOU are the First Responder.

RadClown on July 17, 2014 at 6:53 PM

I’ll bet the Progressives are beside themselves with this common sense, honest man…and he has the audacity to be black.

rjh on July 17, 2014 at 6:54 PM

Obama will probably be asking the chief for his resignation……

redguy on July 17, 2014 at 6:53 PM

Beer summit then charge him with being a “race traitor”.

darwin on July 17, 2014 at 6:55 PM

I hope & pray the citizenry are using their non-lethal skeet guns rather than anything nastier.

JFKY on July 17, 2014 at 6:56 PM

Kudos for PD Chief Craig for speaking the truth and standing his ground against the Detroit liberal establishment. Shows you how one honest and courageous man can make a difference.

TXUS on July 17, 2014 at 6:56 PM

I’ll bet the Progressives are beside themselves with this common sense, honest man…and he has the audacity to be black.

rjh on July 17, 2014 at 6:54 PM

I hear the wail of thousands of liberals who are beside themselves that he’s not following his assigned role.

darwin on July 17, 2014 at 6:58 PM

Doesn’t the Chief know utopia is unarmed?

darwin on July 17, 2014 at 7:00 PM

Common sense works every time.

SouthernGent on July 17, 2014 at 7:00 PM

Obama will probably be asking the chief for his resignation……

redguy on July 17, 2014 at 6:53 PM

Beer summit then charge him with being a “race traitor”.

darwin on July 17, 2014 at 6:55 PM

One way or the other, Obama’s going to be p1ssed when he reads about this next week.

JusDreamin on July 17, 2014 at 7:06 PM

I’ve seen local news clips of Craig talking about concealed carry and crime rates, but offhand I can’t recall seeing a single national news interview with him. That’s curious, as his views on this are provocative and Detroit’s bankruptcy, deterioration, and maybe kinda sorta revival are evergreen subjects of media interest. Maybe I just don’t watch enough TV.

Or, more simply, the 99% hard-left media won’t touch anything that runs counter to their religious Articles of Liberal Faith with a ten foot pole.

This is filed away with all of those stories that prove the ‘settled science’ behind global warming is pure bullshit.

Midas on July 17, 2014 at 7:06 PM

The last thing the MSM will do is put this Chief on national television. Imagine, people RESPONSIBLE for their own safety!

GarandFan on July 17, 2014 at 7:11 PM

Common sense works every time.

SouthernGent on July 17, 2014 at 7:00 PM

Common sense isn’t common anymore Gent.
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31giddyup on July 17, 2014 at 7:13 PM

canopfor on July 17, 2014 at 6:46 PM

Looking better in either of those than Chicago, that’s for sure.

ajacksonian on July 17, 2014 at 6:47 PM

ajacksonian: A Tad safer:)

canopfor on July 17, 2014 at 7:19 PM

People allowed to defend themselves! What’s next, a mass migration of thugs from Detroit to Chicago?

vnvet on July 17, 2014 at 7:19 PM

Good for the Chief!
Give people a chance to defend themselves, and crime falls. Who woulda thunk it?
Well, everybody with sense, which excludes the left…

Doc Holliday on July 17, 2014 at 7:20 PM

Why is he dressed like new black panther?

davidk on July 17, 2014 at 7:22 PM

The police chief acted stupidly

txdoc on July 17, 2014 at 7:45 PM

Good people having guns helps? Who woulda thunk?
/

CW on July 17, 2014 at 7:47 PM

Growing up I had a friend whose Dad had one of those signs that said
” Protected by Smith and Wesson” . You don’t think that would not make a bad guy think twice?

CW on July 17, 2014 at 7:48 PM

Amazing!

More lawfully armed citizens means lower crime and fewer murders.

The exact opposite of what the Left has been telling us for decades.

Its like the Left doesn’t know much about human nature or something.

ajacksonian on July 17, 2014 at 7:49 PM

7 Action News probably supports gun control, so maybe the old Detroiter was just acting in self-defense!

BKennedy on July 17, 2014 at 7:50 PM

Guns save lives!

rbj on July 17, 2014 at 7:55 PM

My sister has been both robbed and mugged while I have not. You think having bad guys know that more and more women are packing would not be beneficial to womens’ safety? The left has the true war on wimyn.

CW on July 17, 2014 at 8:01 PM

From last week: Murder Rate Drops as Concealed Carry Permits Rise, Study Claims

slickwillie2001 on July 17, 2014 at 8:34 PM

Chief Craig seems like the kind of man who should have been the first black President of the USA.

No more constitutional scholars please!!!

s1im on July 17, 2014 at 8:37 PM

This police chief is awesome. He is a class act.

When the current mayor introduced his new staff, the chief got the most applause. This is interesting because the mayor is a super liberal. However the mayor is a white liberal and has to tread carefully. I don’t think the mayor would have this (gun respecting) police chief, if the guy was not already so popular. That is my instinct

I don’t watch local Detroit news too much, since it is mainly jabber interspersed with a few token crime, weather and and traffic snips, but you can feel a difference in citizen interviews. From the lady who intervened when a motorist was beaten to a coma for hitting a boy who jumped into his car, to crime victims talking about self defense, there is a new confidence, and dignity.

I believe it is the example of the very visible police chief unashamedly talking about being armed, as if it is every man’s right, that has changed the conversation.

It shows what one man can do, if he accepts that he has an inalienable right to be a man.

entagor on July 17, 2014 at 8:40 PM

Too bad he missed that pompous ass of a “news” reporter.

Where I come from, if you knock and the person inside doesn’t want to talk to you, you SHUT UP and GO AWAY. You do not keep knocking, talking through the door, peering through the door, and pestering the guy.

Sheesh!

captnjoe on July 17, 2014 at 8:40 PM

Cue up leftists screaming/tweeting “Uncle Tom”s in 5…4…3…

jukin3 on July 17, 2014 at 8:45 PM

Via Bob Owens at Bearing Arms, a leftover from yesterday that shouldn’t be missed. Detroit PD chief James Craig has spent the past six months encouraging locals to arm themselves, an unusual — and politically perilous — position for a big city police officer to take.

Allahpundit on July 17, 2014 at 6:41 PM

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I don’t believe it’s all that “politically perilous” with the local citizens (voters).

It only imperils any good relationship he has (had?) with the Democrat Party.
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Hey BLOOMBERG ! … de BLASIO ! . . . . .

How d’ya’ like them apples ?
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Are you paying attention Chicago ? … Los Angeles ? … Philadelphia ? … Baltimore ?
… why am I writing these all out ? (insert the names of all other major U.S. metropolitan areas, here)

listens2glenn on July 17, 2014 at 8:49 PM

I’ve seen local news clips of Craig talking about concealed carry and crime rates, but offhand I can’t recall seeing a single national news interview with him. That’s curious, as his views on this are provocative and Detroit’s bankruptcy, deterioration, and maybe kinda sorta revival are evergreen subjects of media interest. Maybe I just don’t watch enough TV.

Newsworthy, schmoozeworthy. The guy is credible, the stats back him up. and he undercuts the “guns are evil” narrative. He must be ignored.

novaculus on July 17, 2014 at 8:52 PM

I’m gonna edit that slightly, s1im.
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Chief Craig seems like the kind of man who should have been the first black President of the USA.

No more constitutional Ivy League scholars please!!!

s1im on July 17, 2014 at 8:37 PM

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Your original wasn’t bad … I just believe that this is more to the point.

listens2glenn on July 17, 2014 at 8:53 PM

Chief Craig seems like the kind of man who should have been the first black President of the USA.

No more constitutional scholars please!!!

s1im on July 17, 2014 at 8:37 PM

+100!

c4 on July 17, 2014 at 8:54 PM

Detroit police chief: “There’s no question” that armed citizens are helping to reduce crime in our city

So if things get this bad (Detroit bad that is) then stuff like the Second Amendment all of a sudden makes sense.

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I feel for the elderly gentleman, but it could just be that he’s not in the right state of mind to be owning a gun. Rather like some people are just too out of it to drive any longer. But if he’s deprived of his fire arm, then he’s a potential victim again…a Catch 22 situation.

Dr. ZhivBlago on July 17, 2014 at 9:05 PM

Has anyone considered the fact that crime is down because the population is down and the number of businesses is down. Detroit barely has 700,000 people today, a far cry from the almost 2 million it once had.

The Good Doctor on July 17, 2014 at 9:12 PM

Has anyone considered the fact that crime is down because the population is down and the number of businesses is down. Detroit barely has 700,000 people today, a far cry from the almost 2 million it once had.

The Good Doctor on July 17, 2014 at 9:12 PM

Detroit has experienced 37 percent fewer robberies in 2014 than during the same period last year, 22 percent fewer break-ins of businesses and homes, and 30 percent fewer carjackings.

Are you saying that Detroit has lost 37% of its population in one year? Think carefully before replying.
Especially when you reflect on the fact that in spite of its shrinking population, Detroit’s crime rates have climbed year after year- until this year, when Detroit hires a 2nd Amendment supporting police chief.

Dolce Far Niente on July 17, 2014 at 9:25 PM

I don’t believe it’s all that “politically perilous” with the local citizens (voters).

listens2glenn

Anytime someone goes against the democrat position on an issue, a secret law written somewhere mandates that it must always be “politically perilous”, and probably a loser for the person/party going against the democrat position. Always. There are no exceptions.

xblade on July 17, 2014 at 11:18 PM

Speaking of local news clips, here’s a reminder that no policy is perfect.

The last time someone polititely knocked on this poor man’s door and he took them at their word, two other men pushed their way in and took everything he had.

He didn’t want to talk to them, and the news crew (rather stupidly) would not let him alone, and assumed he would believe them once they identified themselves as a news crew.

I won’t say they deserved to be shot at, but they created the feeling of invasion in this older man, and if he really thought they were liars pulling a scam like the last people who knocked on his door, it’s hard to blame him for coming to the door with a gun.

I’d say the man didn’t go truly off the rails until he shot at them when they were leaving.

There Goes the Neighborhood on July 17, 2014 at 11:51 PM

entagor on July 17, 2014 at 8:40 PM

Dolce Far Niente on July 17, 2014 at 9:25 PM

…thank you neighbors!

JugEarsButtHurt on July 18, 2014 at 12:44 AM

Speaking of local news clips, here’s a reminder that no policy is perfect.

I’d say opening fire on pushy, won’t take no for answer journalists is good policy.

The Thin Man Returns on July 18, 2014 at 5:21 AM

Are you saying that Detroit has lost 37% of its population in one year? Think carefully before replying.

Especially when you reflect on the fact that in spite of its shrinking population, Detroit’s crime rates have climbed year after year- until this year, when Detroit hires a 2nd Amendment supporting police chief.

Dolce Far Niente on July 17, 2014 at 9:25 PM

Wow….that’s gonna leave a mark.

I’m gonna wait with baited breath for the good doctor’s response. Surely the amazing logic Dolce just displayed is incorrect, right doc??? Please tell us why.

runawayyyy on July 18, 2014 at 8:57 AM

Thanks AP – for waiting until after dinner time last night to finally put up a thread that many were asking for all day….

If you had posted this thread earlier in the day, the comment count would have been sinificantly higher.

dentarthurdent on July 18, 2014 at 11:59 AM

I’d say opening fire on pushy, won’t take no for answer journalists is good policy.

The Thin Man Returns on July 18, 2014 at 5:21 AM

If they were acting like the pushy idiot reporter in Die Hard, I think most people would have wanted to open fire on them.

dentarthurdent on July 18, 2014 at 12:01 PM

I forget, am I supposed to fire the shotgun into the air or into the ground?

TarasBulbous on July 18, 2014 at 12:52 PM

I forget, am I supposed to fire the shotgun into the air or into the ground?

TarasBulbous on July 18, 2014 at 12:52 PM

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Option #1 : Into the air, from your rear balcony or bedroom window.
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Option #2 : Right through the front door.
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The preceding “options” are courtesy of a great American.

listens2glenn on July 18, 2014 at 11:26 PM

The trolls are avoiding this thread, like the deadliest of poisons.

listens2glenn on July 18, 2014 at 11:31 PM