CBS Analyst: ‘Almost inconceivable’ an ‘external force’ not responsible for Malaysian plane crash in Ukraine

posted at 12:41 pm on July 17, 2014 by Noah Rothman

On Thursday, a Malaysian Boeing 777 passenger airliner carrying 295 crashed over Eastern Ukraine, where fighting between pro-Russian separatists and Ukrainian forces has raged for months. Early reports indicate that there were no survivors.

The crash comes at a time of heightened tensions, with escalating violence and threats between forces loyal to Moscow and Kiev growing increasingly heated.

In reaction to this event, CBS News national security analyst Bob Orr reported that it was highly unlikely that an aircraft traveling at cruising altitude – approximately 33,000 feet — could have suffered a mechanical failure. He added that it was more likely that this aircraft’s crash was not attributable to a mechanical incident.

“It’s extremely rare for an aircraft to come down at altitude,” Orr reported. “And when one does come down, it is usually the result of an external force, like a bomb or a missile.”

“It’s almost inconceivable to come up with a mechanical scenario that would fit the facts of an aircraft crashing from that safe phase of flight,” the analyst added.

CBS State Department reporter Margaret Brennan reported that U.S. officials are looking into the crash, but cannot determine whether claims that the plane was shot down are accurate at this time.

The Ukrainian Interior Ministry claimed that Malaysian Airlines Flight 17 was shot down. That has not yet been confirmed, but, if the aircraft began to break up in the air in a pattern consistent with having been impacted by a missile, experts indicate that the crash debris field would stretch for several miles.

There are other scenarios which may have resulted in the plane’s crash. NBC News reported on Thursday afternoon that the flight departed from normal procedure when it went into “radio silence” shortly after liftoff, which could indicate that there was an “event on board” the plane inconsistent with a missile attack.

Ukrainian reports indicate that a missile capable of taking down a plane at that altitude would have been impossible from a shoulder-fire weapon. A more sophisticated system would have to be used in that case.

While unconfirmed, this would not be the first aircraft hit by anti-air ordinance over Ukraine in recent days. On Tuesday, Interfax Ukraine reported that a Ukrainian Air Force Su-25 attack aircraft was forced to make an emergency landing after being hit by a surface-to-air missile. According to a TASS report, pro-Russian separatists also claimed responsibility for shooting down a Ukrainian AN-26 on July 14.

On Wednesday, the U.S. and its European allies imposed new sanctions on Russia after months of escalating tensions in the region. The move came as videos surfaced online featuring a missile barrage reportedly launched from Russia directed at Ukrainian positions.

UPDATE: America’s former ambassador to Russia, Michael McFaul, reports an ominous development:

CBS also reports that the debris field is several miles long, consistent with the breakup of an airliner in mid-flight.

UPDATE 1:04 p.. ET: Pro-Russian separatists are reportedly attempting to relocate MH17′s debris and flight recorders to Russia.

UPDATE: 1:26 p.m. ET: An advisor close to the Ukrainian Interior Ministry reports that 23 Americans are among those who likely died in the crash of MH17.


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ConstantineXI: Good one,…but don’t go near the Star Wars Charac
ter we do not mention!–:0

canopfor on July 17, 2014 at 2:05 PM

She has been known to pull people’s arms out of their sockets when they go there.

ConstantineXI on July 17, 2014 at 2:09 PM

Oh man, we’re going to have to fight WWIII with this SCOAMF as Commander-in-Chief….

Shadow on July 17, 2014 at 2:08 PM

Obama wouldn’t defend this country from an attack unless the enemy invaded one of his vacay or golf spots.

ConstantineXI on July 17, 2014 at 2:11 PM

“The Bear is on the loose.”

I don’t think that means what you think that means, Valerie.

oprockwell on July 17, 2014 at 2:12 PM

State Department,…………….its been over 2 hours:

Jen Psaki @statedeptspox · 2h

On reports of tragic Malaysian plane crash: at this time US do not have any confirmation of cause, individuals on plane or any addl details

https://twitter.com/statedeptspox

canopfor on July 17, 2014 at 2:14 PM

DUH:

Mark Knoller @markknoller · 6s

Pres Obama says his first priority in response to plane crash is to see if any Americans were on board. Offers any assistance US can give.

canopfor on July 17, 2014 at 2:15 PM

In reaction to this event, CBS News national security analyst Bob Orr reported that it was highly unlikely that an aircraft traveling at cruising altitude – approximately 33,000 feet — could have suffered a mechanical failure.

Does anyone know if Boeing 777′s also have one of those troublesome center fuel tanks?

slickwillie2001 on July 17, 2014 at 2:18 PM

MeanWhile in Israel,………..:

i24IsraelNews

http://www.i24news.tv/en/tv/live

canopfor on July 17, 2014 at 2:20 PM

Liberals will abhor any US action in the wake of this event.

Unless there were any Democrat politicians or Hollywood celebrities on board.

In that case they will be calling on Obama to nuke Moscow, while simultaneously declaring this tragedy the result of ‘Tea Party Terrorism’.

s1im on July 17, 2014 at 2:21 PM

TWA flight 800 exploded and crashed on this day in 1996. Hey cozmo, I think it is just a coincidence.

Brat on July 17, 2014 at 2:23 PM

https://twitter.com/MAS

Malaysia AirlinesVerified account
@MAS

This is the official twitter of Malaysia Airlines.
Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

Malaysia Airlines @MAS · 1h

[#MASalert] MEDIA STATEMENT on MH17 Incident released at 12:30am/18 July 2014 http://bit.ly/1ru9vo9

Replied to 0 times

Malaysia Airlines @MAS · 2h

[#MASalert] Media Statement 1 – MH 17 Incident Released at 12:30am/18 July 2014 -http://bit.ly/1ru7U1C

Replied to 0 times

Malaysia Airlines @MAS · 3h

Malaysia Airlines has lost contact of MH17 from Amsterdam. The last known position was over Ukrainian airspace. More details to follow.

canopfor on July 17, 2014 at 2:24 PM

It’s not “almost inconceivable”. It would take some major neglect or a defective part, but this is Malaysia Airlines we’re talking about.

That’s right, sometimes they can even lose a whole plane.

txdoc on July 17, 2014 at 2:25 PM

Liberals will abhor any US action in the wake of this event.

Unless there were any Democrat politicians or Hollywood celebrities on board.

In that case they will be calling on Obama to nuke Moscow, while simultaneously declaring this tragedy the result of ‘Tea Party Terrorism’.

s1im on July 17, 2014 at 2:21 PM

And I forgot to add the other obligatory thing they will say:

“Ban all Guns!”

s1im on July 17, 2014 at 2:26 PM

Other than you two over-the-hill clowns, his fans and family, no one gives a flying F!!!

ZeusGoose on July 17, 2014 at 2:00 PM

We can, all of us, mourn the nameless victims of the plane crash as well as the loss of Mr Winter.

Newtie and the Beauty on July 17, 2014 at 2:26 PM

…and I believe I heard that there were a dozen US citizens on board. Tragic.

freedomfirst on July 17, 2014 at 2:29 PM

“It looks like it may be a terrible tragedy.” – King O’Turdhead

Pork-Chop on July 17, 2014 at 2:30 PM

…and I believe I heard that there were a dozen US citizens on board. Tragic.

freedomfirst on July 17, 2014 at 2:29 PM

Fox reporting 23 Americans on board.

Pork-Chop on July 17, 2014 at 2:31 PM

Piers Morgan not happy:

Piers Morgan @piersmorgan · 14m
President Obama massively dropped the ball just now. 23 Americans killed and he says ‘it looks like a terrible tragedy’ then back to jokes?
Retweeted 667 times Favorited 229 times

667 RTs in 14 minutes. This one is going to make the rounds.

Missy on July 17, 2014 at 2:32 PM

In Flight Crisis
@FlightCrisis

Flight Crisis details. Squawk 7700 – General Emergency. Squawk 7600- Radio Failure

https://twitter.com/FlightCrisis

canopfor on July 17, 2014 at 2:30 PM

canopfor on July 17, 2014 at 2:32 PM

Pretty tranquil world we live in …

djl130 on July 17, 2014 at 2:33 PM

In Flight Crisis @FlightCrisis · 50m

BREAKING PHOTO: More images of #MH17 #airlivenet (Dominique Faget/AFP/Getty Images)

https://twitter.com/NBCNewYork/status/489825895797260288/photo/1

canopfor on July 17, 2014 at 2:31 PM

canopfor on July 17, 2014 at 2:33 PM

Piers Morgan @piersmorgan · 12m
Let me help, Mr President – it IS a terrible tragedy, and it’s more probably mass murder of your citizens & many other nations’ citizens.
Replied to 0 times Retweeted 442 times Favorited 209 times

Piers Morgan @piersmorgan 4m
Just awful > Rt @joshgroban @piersmorgan I totally agree. Bad prep. I was shocked.

Missy on July 17, 2014 at 2:36 PM

Video of the crash?

sentinelrules on July 17, 2014 at 2:36 PM

Piers Morgan not happy:

Piers Morgan @piersmorgan · 14m
President Obama massively dropped the ball just now. 23 Americans killed and he says ‘it looks like a terrible tragedy’ then back to jokes?
Retweeted 667 times Favorited 229 times

667 RTs in 14 minutes. This one is going to make the rounds.

Missy on July 17, 2014 at 2:32 PM

When you’ve lost Piers Morgan…..

Seriously, though, this is just another in a continuing series of episodes of the complete lack of humanity that SCOAMF exhibits.

Bitter Clinger on July 17, 2014 at 2:37 PM

Putin is just testing his toys.

weedisgood on July 17, 2014 at 2:42 PM

Brat on July 17, 2014 at 2:40 PM

Obama doing a cheeseburger photo op? No way! Obama doesn’t do photo ops!

TarheelBen on July 17, 2014 at 2:43 PM

In Flight Crisis ‏@FlightCrisis 47m

Pray For #MH17. #PrayForMH17 #MalaysiaAirlines #airlivenet pic.twitter.com/Pl1SXVCRjj

https://twitter.com/FlightCrisis/status/489830787165196288/photo/1

canopfor on July 17, 2014 at 2:44 PM

Seriously, though, this is just another in a continuing series of episodes of the complete lack of humanity that SCOAMF exhibits.

Bitter Clinger on July 17, 2014 at 2:37 PM

He’s a narcissistic sociopath. To him, he is the only one who matters. I suspect that at best, to him, this is an inconvenience…although a minor one since he’s not made any real schedule changes based on the tragedy.

Athos on July 17, 2014 at 2:44 PM

First off, there was no way this was a manpad. It had to be much larger missile system to reach that altitude. Those are not something an “insurgent” group would have or be able to operate even if they could get one.

Second, I can’t imagine that we don’t have a theater ballistic missile defense system in the Black Sea. That radar might have picked this up. Also, I’d be surprised that we didn’t have some type of imaging watching this area. I would expect more to come in the near future as we look through all the evidence.

BadBrad on July 17, 2014 at 2:45 PM

https://twitter.com/clarionledger

Retweeted by The Clarion-Ledger
Mashable @mashable · 2h

Statement from #Ukraine president on #MH17 (translation by @ChristopherJM) http://on.mash.to/1qKJ8cj

https://twitter.com/mashable/status/489806975967199233/photo/1

canopfor on July 17, 2014 at 2:47 PM

BadBrad on July 17, 2014 at 2:45 PM

Shoulder fired are only good (in theory ) to 20k feet.

dogsoldier on July 17, 2014 at 2:48 PM

Looks like area surrounding Air Space ShutDown:

In Flight Crisis ‏@FlightCrisis 3m

BREAKING: Airlines suspend all flights over Ukraine #airlivenet pic.twitter.com/Yce8SrYWEa

https://twitter.com/FlightCrisis/status/489843078233341952/photo/1

canopfor on July 17, 2014 at 2:49 PM

Bitter Clinger on July 17, 2014 at 2:37 PM

Un freaking real.

dogsoldier on July 17, 2014 at 2:50 PM

canopfor on July 17, 2014 at 2:49 PM

They may want to avoid a few other places for a while, as well.

dogsoldier on July 17, 2014 at 2:51 PM

http://twitchy.com/2014/07/17/are-you-kidding-me-adrift-obamas-schedule-unchanged-as-burger-photo-op-moves-forward/

Brat on July 17, 2014 at 2:40 PM

Like many have said before…thank god the Soviet Union is not at its full military power now, because with Obama in office they might have actually been able to successfully pull off a first strike.

William Eaton on July 17, 2014 at 2:53 PM

in times of real danger, one longs for solid leadership in the white house and in the state dept. Instead we got Obama and Kerry. Do the math.

warmairfan on July 17, 2014 at 2:54 PM

Like many have said before…thank god the Soviet Union is not at its full military power now, because with Obama in office they might have actually been able to successfully pull off a first strike.

William Eaton on July 17, 2014 at 2:53 PM

Obama would never interrupt or cancel a fundraiser to deal with a Soviet nuclear launch?

ConstantineXI on July 17, 2014 at 2:55 PM

Moonbats out in force:

@joeman42 Malaysia passenger Airplane is then blown out of skies over Zionist Ukraine.. Revenge again for Israel #GazaUnderAttack

— joe.m (@joeman42) July 17, 2014

Resist We Much on July 17, 2014 at 2:50 PM

Resist We Much on July 17, 2014 at 3:01 PM

http://www.breakingnews.com/topic/reports-of-malaysian-plane-crash-in-ukraine-july-17-2014/

Reports of Malaysian plane crash in Ukraine, July 17, 2014

Ukraine
5m
President Obama: Working to determine whether Americans were on Malaysia Airlines plane that crashed in Ukraine; ‘looks like it may be a terrible tragedy’ – broadcast
End of alert
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Ukraine
8m
White House official: Biden spoke with Ukraine’s Poroshenko, offered assistance to help determine what happened with Malaysia Airlines plane crash – @NBCNews
End of alert
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Ukraine
9m
International Air Transport Association says it extends ‘deepest sympathies to the families and friends of the passengers and crew of MH17′; believes airspace flight was traversing was not subject to restrictions – statement
End of alert
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Malaysia
10m
Russian President Putin offers condolences to Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak over crashed plane – Bernama via @Reuters
Read more on reuters.com

canopfor on July 17, 2014 at 3:02 PM

canopfor on July 17, 2014 at 2:49 PM

They may want to avoid a few other places for a while, as well.

dogsoldier on July 17, 2014 at 2:51 PM

dogsoldier: Agreed,….like flying over GazaWestBankastan:)

canopfor on July 17, 2014 at 3:04 PM

Just spotted this from the AP:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/obama-speaks-putin-amid-malaysia-170537363.html

Take from that exchange what you will. Zero has checked out, as everyone knows. Putin sure does.

dogsoldier on July 17, 2014 at 3:05 PM

Obama would never interrupt or cancel a fundraiser to deal with a Soviet nuclear launch?

ConstantineXI on July 17, 2014 at 2:55 PM

I meant to end that with a period, not a question mark. OF COURSE Obama would never interrupt a fundraiser or photo op to deal with anything.

Even the end of the world.

ConstantineXI on July 17, 2014 at 3:05 PM

Now the conspiracy theory nuts are getting riled up. Pictures of passenger passports are evidence of…well, nobody knows what, but it’s evidence of something.

xblade on July 17, 2014 at 3:07 PM

First off, there was no way this was a manpad. It had to be much larger missile system to reach that altitude. Those are not something an “insurgent” group would have or be able to operate even if they could get one.

Russian backed “insurgents” claimed to have the BUK system last month.

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/805200-igor-girkin-commander-of-donetsk-peoples-army-igor-strelkov-says-they-shot-down-malaysia-airlines-mh17-photos/

I think Ukraine claimed to have it too.

I agree we should be able to figure it out from satellite info.

Missy on July 17, 2014 at 3:10 PM

Putin’s plane was the target?

Brat on July 17, 2014 at 3:10 PM

Retweeted by Allahpundit
Vox ‏@vauxnews 55m

“It looks like it may be a terrible tragedy” — Obama on the downed Malaysian Airlines flight. 9 reasons he’s right. http://tinyurl.com/voxsplaining

Bmore on July 17, 2014 at 3:10 PM

In Flight Crisis ‏@FlightCrisis 7m

BREAKING: Malaysia Airlines to hold press conference at 9pm BST #airlivenet

canopfor on July 17, 2014 at 3:12 PM

Link for speculation that Putin’s plane was target
http://rt.com/news/173672-malaysia-plane-crash-putin/

Brat on July 17, 2014 at 3:13 PM

In Flight Crisis @FlightCrisis · 1m

BREAKING : Separatists in Donetsk claim responsibility on social network. Post since delete. #airlivenet

https://twitter.com/FlightCrisis/status/489850205446348800/photo/1

canopfor on July 17, 2014 at 3:19 PM

Obama would never interrupt or cancel a fundraiser to deal with a Soviet nuclear launch?

ConstantineXI on July 17, 2014 at 2:55 PM

It would not matter what he thought, because he and his people are so inept in a crisis that by the time they figured out what was happening and determined what should be done it would all be over…

William Eaton on July 17, 2014 at 3:20 PM

I’m waiting for a statement from the Malaysian government.

Ward Cleaver on July 17, 2014 at 1:33 PM

That will come sometime during the weekend……

How long until CNN has some crackpot “expert” on who speculates that Flight 17 collided with Flight 370 which is what brought it down?

ConstantineXI on July 17, 2014 at 1:57 PM

Dude!!!

GWB on July 17, 2014 at 3:22 PM

http://www.breakingnews.com/

Ukraine, Russia political crisis

3m
Ukrainian emergency official says search efforts at scene of Malaysia Airlines plane crash are being hampered by ‘armed terrorists’ – @Reuters
End of alert
=============

Malaysia Airlines plane crash in Ukraine, July 17, 2014
6m
Editor’s note: Interfax news agency reported that pro-Russian separatists in eastern Ukraine say they found the “black box” flight recorder of the downed Malaysian airliner, according to Reuters. We’re watching for official confirmation. – Stephanie
Read more on reuters.com

canopfor on July 17, 2014 at 3:26 PM

Second, I can’t imagine that we don’t have a theater ballistic missile defense system in the Black Sea.

BadBrad on July 17, 2014 at 2:45 PM

Why would we? We don’t have any reason to have one there (especially since someone caved to Putin over the whole deal). We have (or had) a ship in the Black Sea, but I don’t think it was an Aegis, and it is very likely to be out of range of this incident for detailed information.

Imaging? We might have something watching the area. But recall that our folk were a little surprised by the whole Crimean thing. Our intel apparatus is not exactly at its best in the last several years.

GWB on July 17, 2014 at 3:27 PM

Reports of Malaysian plane crash in Ukraine, July 17, 2014

http://www.breakingnews.com/topic/reports-of-malaysian-plane-crash-in-ukraine-july-17-2014/

Photo: Crowd gathers at Netherlands embassy in Kyiv, Ukraine, and place candles, flowers around building after plane originating from Amsterdam crashes – @myroslavapetsa via @MaximEristavi
see original on twitter.com

https://twitter.com/myroslavapetsa/status/489842448274055168/photo/1
============

Ukraine
16m
Image shows limited air traffic over Ukraine; several airlines have said they are avoiding Ukrainian airspace following the Malaysia Airlines plane crash – @FlightRadar24 via @ABCNewsLive

https://twitter.com/ABCNewsLive/status/489841709283827712

canopfor on July 17, 2014 at 3:29 PM

Link for speculation that Putin’s plane was target
http://rt.com/news/173672-malaysia-plane-crash-putin/

Brat on July 17, 2014 at 3:13 PM

Why would Russian-puppet separatists shoot down Putin’s plane?

slickwillie2001 on July 17, 2014 at 3:29 PM

Malaysia Airlines plane crash in Ukraine, July 17, 2014
3m
Europe flight safety body: East Ukraine airspace closed until further notice following plane crash – @AFP

canopfor on July 17, 2014 at 3:33 PM

Why would Russian-puppet separatists shoot down Putin’s plane?

slickwillie2001 on July 17, 2014 at 3:29 PM

Ukraine might.

GWB on July 17, 2014 at 3:33 PM

Link for speculation that Putin’s plane was target
http://rt.com/news/173672-malaysia-plane-crash-putin/

Brat on July 17, 2014 at 3:13 PM

Lin for Russia Today propaganda. You already got smacked down with this trash on the other thread. What are you trying to do, double-down on the stupid?

Flight path of planes from Brazil to Moscow.

http://flights.expedia.com/flights-from-moscow-to-rio-de-janeiro-svo-to-gig/

Never gets near Eastern Ukraine. Even a state plane has to follow international flight paths.

Walter L. Newton on July 17, 2014 at 3:35 PM

Flightradar24 @flightradar24 · 42m

Singapore Airlines SQ351 (B777) and Air India AI113 (B787) were about 25 km from #MH17 when it disappeared.

https://twitter.com/flightradar24/status/489843415002001408/photo/1

canopfor on July 17, 2014 at 3:36 PM

Ukraine, Russia political crisis
3m
Editor’s note: Russia’s RIA news agency says pro-Russian separatists could agree brief truce in eastern Ukraine to allow recovery work at the site of a downed Malaysian airliner, Reuters is reporting. We’re watching for a formal proposal. – Stephanie
Read more on reuters.com

https://twitter.com/Reuters

canopfor on July 17, 2014 at 3:38 PM

Yep.

Brat on July 17, 2014 at 3:40 PM

CBS Analyst: ‘Almost inconceivable’ an ‘external force’ not responsible for Malaysian plane crash in Ukraine

But Flight 800 just blew up for some reason.

Akzed on July 17, 2014 at 3:49 PM

Even a state plane has to follow international flight paths.

Walter L. Newton on July 17, 2014 at 3:35 PM

No plane has to follow “international flight paths”. They have to follow their filed flight plan. That usually includes published flight paths, but it doesn’t have to. (Some nations require filed flight plans to follow certain routes through their airspace, but most do not.)

GWB on July 17, 2014 at 3:51 PM

GWB on July 17, 2014 at 3:51 PM

I should clarify – nations with an ADIZ (Air Defense Identification Zone) many times require aircraft entering it to enter at one or more specific points in order to more easily filter international traffic. But this governs only one point (or two, if an exit point is stipulated) per country along their route.

GWB on July 17, 2014 at 3:54 PM

It Begins:

https://twitter.com/IDFSpokesperson

Pinned Tweet
IDF @IDFSpokesperson · 6h

UNRWA: We found 20 rockets in one of our schools in Gaza http://www.unrwa.org/newsroom/press-releases/unrwa-strongly-condemns-placement-rockets-school

Replied to 0 times

IDF @IDFSpokesperson · 1m

Our goal is to target Hamas’ tunnels that enable terrorists to infiltrate Israel and carry out attacks. This requires precise operations.
View conversation

Replied to 0 times

IDF @IDFSpokesperson · 7m

The new phase follows 10 days of Hamas attacks on Israel by land, air & sea – and repeated rejections of offers to deescalate the situation.
View conversation

Replied to 0 times

IDF @IDFSpokesperson · 8m

BREAKING NEWS: A large IDF force has just launched a ground operation in the Gaza Strip. A new phase of Operation Protective Edge has begun.

canopfor on July 17, 2014 at 3:53 PM

canopfor on July 17, 2014 at 3:54 PM

But Flight 800 just blew up for some reason.

Hobby Lobby wouuldn’t pay for the stewardesses’ contraceptives abortifacients.

corona79 on July 17, 2014 at 3:56 PM

Israeli-Palestinian conflict
2m
Rocket sirens sound in the Golan Heights as Israeli ground incursion begins in Gaza – @haaretzcom
Read more on haaretz.com
==========================

Israeli-Palestinian conflict
7m
Israeli Defense Forces: Our goal is to target Hamas’ tunnels that enable terrorists to infiltrate Israel and carry out attacks. This requires precise operations. – @IDFSpokesperson

canopfor on July 17, 2014 at 3:57 PM

wrong thread, troll

totally unverifiable, but what the hey:
https://www.facebook.com/olena.tregub/posts/10152625248348628

corona79 on July 17, 2014 at 3:59 PM

Boy, is somebody clueless about what “RT” means.

corona79 on July 17, 2014 at 4:08 PM

Gaza, PS
2m
Israeli Army spokesman says troops in ‘several areas’ of the Gaza Strip, operation involving ‘infantry, artillery, tanks’ and others – @glcarlstrom

https://twitter.com/glcarlstrom

canopfor on July 17, 2014 at 4:09 PM

canopfor on July 17, 2014 at 4:10 PM

Boy, is somebody clueless about what “RT” means.

corona79 on July 17, 2014 at 4:08 PM

I am very much aware of what ‘RT’ means. No, it doesn’t really stand for ‘Russia Today’; rather, ‘Putin’s Propaganda Today’ is more apropos.

Resist We Much on July 17, 2014 at 4:33 PM

Somebody forgot the first rule of holes: If you find yourself in one, stop digging.

corona79 on July 17, 2014 at 4:54 PM

Hmmm .. this is important, so one more try
http://is.gd/bY33no

corona79 on July 17, 2014 at 4:57 PM

https://twitter.com/CharlieKayeCBS

Retweeted by Mark Knoller
Charlie Kaye @CharlieKayeCBS · 1m

BREAKING. @CBSDavidMartin: US intelligence confirms Malaysian plane brought down by missile, not yet determined from where.

canopfor on July 17, 2014 at 4:58 PM

canopfor on July 17, 2014 at 4:59 PM

Malaysia Airlines plane crash in Ukraine, July 17, 2014
8m
Malaysia Airlines official: 154 Dutch passengers on board jet that crashed in Ukraine; 27 Australians, 23 Malaysians, 11 Indonesians, 6 Britons, 4 Germans, 3 from Belgians, 3 Filipinos, 1 Canadian also on board; 53 unaccounted for – @JackBoard
End of alert

canopfor on July 17, 2014 at 5:16 PM

canopfor on July 17, 2014 at 5:17 PM

canopfor on July 17, 2014 at 5:18 PM

Obama has radical Islam on the run!

trs on July 17, 2014 at 5:34 PM

Somebody forgot the first rule of holes: If you find yourself in one, stop digging.

corona79 on July 17, 2014 at 4:54 PM

Nope.

Resist We Much on July 17, 2014 at 5:42 PM

OK, so you love holes – set up your own site and worship them to your little heart’s content.

corona79 on July 17, 2014 at 5:59 PM

OK, so you love holes – set up your own site and worship them to your little heart’s content.

corona79 on July 17, 2014 at 5:59 PM

I have my own site. You evidently missed the first post about RT (‘It was really an attack on what was thought to be Putin’s plane! (read: Ukrainian)). That was the post to which I responded.

Do you agree with the poster, who wanted to raise the idea that Ukrainians attempted to shoot down Putin’s plane, or do you want to continue to insinuate that I am some kind of tinfoil hatter?

Be careful how you answer because it may be you who ends up with the aluminium.

Resist We Much on July 17, 2014 at 6:08 PM

This was an act of aggression and murder that will go unanswered by the once most powerful country in the history of the world.
You know what is a ‘terrible tragedy’? The fact that this hollow, callous, narcissistic excuse for a man is the president of the United States.

maryo on July 17, 2014 at 6:43 PM

Boy, is somebody clueless about what “RT” means.

corona79 on July 17, 2014 at 4:08 PM

You should talk. You’re clueless about everything else.

zoyclem on July 18, 2014 at 9:06 AM

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