Biden: Hope and change didn’t happen, by the way

posted at 1:21 pm on July 17, 2014 by Ed Morrissey

But hey, progressives … don’t stop believing, or something. Joe Biden spoke to a national convention of progressives about the state of the nation and the status of Hope and Change. That status is kaput, according to Biden, but that’s because progressives haven’t been the “drivers” … which seems a bit puzzling, coming from the two-term VP representing the most “progressive” administration in decades.

I’ll bet this won’t make the White House’s “Being Biden” audio series, but it should:

It appears Vice President Joe Biden admitted that President Barack Obama’s 2008 campaign slogan of “hope and change” never happened.

Speaking during a Generation Progress event Wednesday, Biden told the crowd that he and Obama tried for change in 2008.

“Look folks, this is within our power to change. Everybody says because we tried in ’08 and it didn’t happen, it’s not possible,” Biden said. “Wrong. We’ve gone through these periods before.”

Biden continued: “But folks, this is totally within our power. Change. Change for the better is absolutely possible and I believe it’s close to inevitable if you’re the drivers of it.”

Well, who exactly has been in the driver’s seat? Obama and Biden have been in charge for the last five and a half years, and Democrats have controlled the Senate for the last seven and half years. They had two years of total control of Washington DC. If there have been few progressive administrations, this one had plenty of opportunities to pursue “hope and change.”

Maybe Biden means no one has been in the driver’s seat over the last few years. He certainly appears to think he and Obama haven’t been in it, and frankly a lot of people at home and abroad are beginning to agree.

Ron Fournier called this a “really bad moment” for the White House on CNN:

The real message from this speech is that Biden and Barack Obama have essentially given up, just eighteen months into the second term for which they campaigned, and for which they cheerfully committed character assassination against their opponent. If “hope and change” is dead, it’s largely because they killed it themselves, with Harry Reid gibbering alongside as an accomplice.

In my column for The Fiscal Times, I predict that no matter the outcome of the midterms, Obama’s surrender is so profound now that he’ll have the longest lame-duck presidency in history:

Obama seems to welcome the idea of making the midterms a referendum on himself and his personal battles, even if Democrats want the focus to be almost anywhere else. Meanwhile, nothing gets done unless it rises to a crisis level, and then only after endless rounds of brinksmanship. We’re back to the status quo of 2011-13.

Essentially, we have a lame-duck presidency already in action. Contrast that with the final two years of the Bush administration after the Democratic midterm sweep of 2006. There was plenty of personal animosity, accusations of incompetence and executive abuse of power, and threats of investigations. However, Bush still worked with the opposition well enough to get a budget passed, added troops in Iraq for the surge, and eventually launched TARP on a bipartisan basis. Bush didn’t get everything he wanted, but he kept business running in Washington DC.

This latest strategy shows that the lame-duck presidency will persist until 2017. The Washington Post’s Election Lab says the GOP has an 86 percent chance of winning control of the Senate and a 99 percent chance of holding the House. If that comes to pass, the drama will move from Capitol Hill, where Senate Democrats have stifled Republican economic policy, to the White House, where Obama has issued only a handful of vetoes. Rather than acknowledge that voters want a change in direction, Obama will almost certainly opt to keep up the pretense that Congress just dislikes him personally, and play for the 2016 elections.

If Democrats beat the odds and keep control of the Senate, all that will mean is a continuation of the current status quo and stalemate on Capitol Hill. Obama will claim that as a mandate to stay the course and ignore both voter priorities and his opposition. The only way this calculus changes is if Democrats manage to win both chambers of Congress, but with Obama’s approval ratings in the low 40s and heading downward, the chances of that happening are somewhere between slim and none – and much closer to none.

To use one of his favorite first-term analogies, Obama and Biden have driven the car into the ditch, and now Biden wants everyone to forget who was at the wheel.


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It was all change and no hope.

Flange on July 17, 2014 at 1:23 PM

Must be hell to be uncle Joe.

Schadenfreude on July 17, 2014 at 1:25 PM

Hope n’ Dope

Schadenfreude on July 17, 2014 at 1:26 PM

The ‘driver’ has been Daffy Duck.

pat on July 17, 2014 at 1:26 PM

It was all change for the worse, and the hope I have is for the perpetrator to be arrested and tried for it.

ConstantineXI on July 17, 2014 at 1:27 PM

Oh, there’s been plenty of change, Joseph. The problem is none of it’s been for the better(unless you’re gay and want to serve in the military).

Doughboy on July 17, 2014 at 1:31 PM

That’s because “Hope and Change” is nothing but VAPOR. It means something completely different to each and every person. And in Government terms means absolutely nothing. As we have seen play out.

Here’s a prediction, “Fundamental Transformation” isn’t going to work out the way Obama’s minions think it will.

Meople on July 17, 2014 at 1:32 PM

To use one of his favorite first-term analogies, Obama and Biden have driven the car into the ditch, and now Biden wants everyone to forget who was at the wheel.

Like Ted Kennedy driving an Oldsmobile into a body of water, and trying to convince everyone Mary Jo was driving.

portlandon on July 17, 2014 at 1:32 PM

The stupid state dept. spokeshag is talking about Afghanistan…with plane downed.

Schadenfreude on July 17, 2014 at 1:33 PM

Uncle Joe = proof that dims are mentally challenged politicians.

31giddyup on July 17, 2014 at 1:33 PM

Cash for Clunkers defined them to utter perfection.

Nothing has changed.

Schadenfreude on July 17, 2014 at 1:34 PM

BooBoo is on the loose

faraway on July 17, 2014 at 1:35 PM

Joe’s about a Sharp as a Bowling Ball….

ToddPA on July 17, 2014 at 1:36 PM

Obama may be a lame duck, in the traditional sense of it all.

But Talibama has only BEGUN to abuse, marginalize and ignore the Constitution and the rule of law. He will be giving his pen and phone a good work out the next 2+ years.

Meople on July 17, 2014 at 1:36 PM

To use one of his favorite first-term analogies, Obama and Biden have driven the car into the ditch, and now Biden wants everyone to forget who was at the wheel.

Sorry, Clueless Joe, but the wankers who drove the car into the ditch are a ‘Big F**kin’ Deal’.

And trying to embrace finishing ‘Hope and Change’ as your 2016 campaign theme sounds pretty much DOA….much like your 2016 campaign will be. That will be your time to retire in ‘lower slower Delaware’…

Athos on July 17, 2014 at 1:37 PM

Schadenfreude on July 17, 2014 at 1:33 PM

I owe an apology to you for last night. You seem like a good sort

kenny on July 17, 2014 at 1:38 PM

Perhaps we should be thankful.

formwiz on July 17, 2014 at 1:40 PM

Is baldness the new blackness? Do we just not care how attractive our presidents are anymore?

ezspirit on July 17, 2014 at 1:40 PM

To use one of his favorite first-term analogies, Obama and Biden have driven the car into the ditch, and now Biden wants everyone to forget who was at the wheel.

The gear shift was in D for ditch.

To back out of the ditch we need to shift into R. The only way we have Hope for Change.

Steve Z on July 17, 2014 at 1:40 PM

BooBoo is on the loose

faraway on July 17, 2014 at 1:35 PM

Hey, BooBoo? What have you got in that picnic basket?

ezspirit on July 17, 2014 at 1:41 PM

We’ve been fundamentally transformed into everything Zimbabwe’s own Ogabe dreams if only it could be…

viking01 on July 17, 2014 at 1:43 PM

Because it was always a bait and switch lie.

dentarthurdent on July 17, 2014 at 1:44 PM

Biden needs to learn how to double clutch if he thinks he can drive this car, particularily with the weight of Hill back there smooching with Huma

kenny on July 17, 2014 at 1:45 PM

Another of Biden’s finest:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRV5Y1JCGRI

ConservativePartyNow on July 17, 2014 at 1:46 PM

I owe an apology to you for last night. You seem like a good sort

kenny on July 17, 2014 at 1:38 PM

Accepted, but you should never worry. I only mean for the once good land to survive as a Land of Laws, for all. All else is chickencrap in comparison.

Btw, last night other people provided more tips for you, just in case you have not read this morning.

Also, contrary to appearances, I multi-task and do a lot of things, outside of here :)

Take good care kenny. Here is a really good tip for all on the QotD – people are not “tribalists”. They welcome anyone, if those who join want to be in the room. When coolrepublica starts out with “bla, bla, bla…” it turns people off or cold. QotD is not as serious as the daytime threads, but lots of tips get shared.

You, and anyone, will always be welcome to discuss just about anything. If you read you’ll note that I get nailed for talking to the leftists sometimes. It w/b boring to always agree.

Sincerely and with equal opportunity for good discussions.

Schadenfreude on July 17, 2014 at 1:47 PM

Because it was always a bait and switch lie.

dentarthurdent on July 17, 2014 at 1:44 PM

Hope and Change IS nearly an exact synonym for Bait and Switch.

Huh, whodda thunk it? I wonder why the GOP “Leadership” didn’t think of that?

Meople on July 17, 2014 at 1:47 PM

Bush didn’t get everything he wanted, but he kept business running in Washington DC.

Just goes to show how kind the Democrats were at the time, and how evil the Republicans are today.

/

Midas on July 17, 2014 at 1:49 PM

Yes We Can!

We just didn’t!

All Fired Up! Ready To Go!

Maybe not.

We are the Ones We Have Been Waiting For!

Any day now.

Wander on July 17, 2014 at 1:50 PM

Huh, whodda thunk it? I wonder why the GOP “Leadership” didn’t think of that?

Meople on July 17, 2014 at 1:47 PM

It’s because the GOP ‘leadership’ is fully vested in ‘Bait and Switch’….we’re being baited that they’re real conservatives….

Athos on July 17, 2014 at 1:51 PM

BooBoo is on the loose

faraway on July 17, 2014 at 1:35 PM

LOL, priceless.

Midas on July 17, 2014 at 1:51 PM

1. Biden desperately wants to be president
2. Biden ain’t very creative.
3. Last time he had the presidential bug, he was nailed for
plagiarism.
4. He’s can’t come up with anything better than “Hope &
Change” so he’s trying to “borrow” it without the plagiarism
rap.
5. Biden ain’t very smart, either.

cartooner on July 17, 2014 at 1:53 PM

I owe an apology to you for last night. You seem like a good sort
kenny on July 17, 2014 at 1:38 PM

This.

Schadenfreude on July 17, 2014 at 1:47 PM

And this.

Newtie and the Beauty on July 17, 2014 at 1:53 PM

Has Plugs Biden, the Forrest Gump of politics, uncritical witness yet exuberant commentator upon so much history, a fixer in the situation but never more than a cog in the machine, not realized that it’s over?

M240H on July 17, 2014 at 1:54 PM

1. Progressive = Fascist
2. Biden like the rest of us has let Obama down.
3. There is no affirmative action grading in the real world.
4. There has been change all for the worse.
5. Americans have abandoned hope under Obama and his merry band of idiots.

jukin3 on July 17, 2014 at 1:56 PM

Does this mean not to expect a “Recovery Summer?”

pain train on July 17, 2014 at 1:57 PM

Is baldness the new blackness? Do we just not care how attractive our presidents are anymore?

ezspirit on July 17, 2014 at 1:40 PM

That would seem to be just about the least important qualification I can think of, frankly.

Midas on July 17, 2014 at 1:58 PM

Schadenfreude on July 17, 2014 at 1:47 PM

Thank you for your response. Out of my multitude of life experience, I have strong individualistic leanings which sometimes become harsh toward others but I bear no ill will. Morever am given to inordinate cynicism and as a Catholic, there are frequent confessions.

kenny on July 17, 2014 at 1:59 PM

It’s because the GOP ‘leadership’ is fully vested in ‘Bait and Switch’….we’re being baited that they’re real conservatives….

Athos on July 17, 2014 at 1:51 PM

Sad but SO true.

Meople on July 17, 2014 at 2:00 PM

There has been lots of change going on in U.S. If you agree with Barack position in 2008 on gay marriage, you WILL BE FIRED FROM YOUR JOB.

We no longer have private healthcare. It is now Government run healthcare.
Taxes and regulation(yes those two are the same thing) are WAY UP.

We have MASSIVE Change already ED. WAKE UP ED.

BroncosRock on July 17, 2014 at 2:02 PM

Biden should wander over to the House. They’re setting up training sessions where Congresscritters pretend they are poor. They take on the roll of Ann (a receptionist) and Albert (an unemployed computer programmer). They have two kids, $200 in savings, and no insurance.

I’m not making this up- It is supposed to give Representatives and their staffers a glimpse of how the poor live.

Happy Nomad on July 17, 2014 at 2:02 PM

kenny on July 17, 2014 at 1:59 PM

I’m sure you have a fantastic sense of humour…would be nice to let that show through when the snark/cynicism bug hits you… ;-)

Just say’n…

Newtie and the Beauty on July 17, 2014 at 2:03 PM

I think he’s going to be Killery’s foil — the one criticizing Jugears through the 2016 campaign season — and then if she wins she’ll get him a really big barrel of Tinker Toys…or maybe make him UN Ambassador cuz he’s the regime’s foreign policy genius.

Rational Thought on July 17, 2014 at 2:04 PM

The kind of “hope and change” the progressives want must be imposed by force upon the American citizens. Even mouth breathers like Harry Reid seem to instinctively understand that would not bode well for them.

Wendya on July 17, 2014 at 2:06 PM

“Look folks, this is within our power to change. Everybody says because we tried in ’08 and it didn’t happen, it’s not possible,” Biden said. “Wrong. We’ve gone through these periods before.”

Biden continued: “But folks, this is totally within our power. Change. Change for the better is absolutely possible and I believe it’s close to inevitable if you’re the drivers of it.”

In other words, “Elect me next!”

de rigueur on July 17, 2014 at 2:07 PM

I’m sure you have a fantastic sense of humour…would be nice to let that show through when the snark/cynicism bug hits you… ;-)

Just say’n…

Newtie and the Beauty on July 17, 2014 at 2:03 PM

Duly noted

kenny on July 17, 2014 at 2:08 PM

Speaking during a Generation Progress event Wednesday, Biden told the crowd that he and Obama tried for change in 2008.

A minor point. Obama wasn’t the President in 2008.

BobMbx on July 17, 2014 at 2:10 PM

A minor point. Obama wasn’t the President in 2008.

BobMbx on July 17, 2014 at 2:10 PM

That’s just Clueless Joe – gaffes within gaffes within gaffes.

Athos on July 17, 2014 at 2:15 PM

Retarded

Jaibones on July 17, 2014 at 2:22 PM

He could have been a bit more direct without so many words.
.
Something like – All the bad sh!t that happened in the last five years, we didn’t do it.

News2Use on July 17, 2014 at 2:25 PM

Of course, the way this will be spun among progressives is “we tried for Hope and Change™, and it would have worked, too, if not for those meddling Republicans!”

Sockpuppet Politic on July 17, 2014 at 2:27 PM

Biden on the Obama administration in a nutshell:

Pay no attention to our incompetence. It’s Bush’s fault. And, SQUIRREL!

s1im on July 17, 2014 at 2:29 PM

BooBoo is on the loose

faraway on July 17, 2014 at 1:35 PM

Hey! Careful with that! My tibetan-terrier’s nickname is Boo-Boo and he’s twice as smart as Butthead-Biden! Just saying.

Cherokee on July 17, 2014 at 2:34 PM

BooBoo is on the loose

faraway on July 17, 2014 at 1:35 PM

Hey! Careful with that! My tibetan-terrier’s nickname is Boo-Boo and he’s twice as smart as Butthead-Biden! Just saying.

Cherokee on July 17, 2014 at 2:34 PM

I’ve heard Slow Joe still hasn’t learned to go on the newspaper.

viking01 on July 17, 2014 at 2:42 PM

CatsPolitics @CatsPolitics
23 Americans killed by terrorists but DAMN GOOD BURGERS. RT @ZekeJMiller: Obama per pool: “Biden told me the burgers are pretty good.”
1:45 PM – 17 Jul 2014

http://twitchy.com/2014/07/17/are-you-kidding-me-adrift-obamas-schedule-unchanged-as-burger-photo-op-moves-forward/

Brat on July 17, 2014 at 2:43 PM

…yep!…Joe sure had a stroke!

JugEarsButtHurt on July 17, 2014 at 2:49 PM

Is baldness the new blackness? Do we just not care how attractive our presidents are anymore?

ezspirit on July 17, 2014 at 1:40 PM

I would vote for POTUS the ugliest person to ever walk the earth if it was a Constitution loving American patriot.

Perhaps you have your priorities wrong?

captnjoe on July 17, 2014 at 2:57 PM

Newtie and the Beauty on July 17, 2014 at 2:03 PM

You define the word “gracious”. :)

captnjoe on July 17, 2014 at 2:59 PM

Morever am given to inordinate cynicism and as a Catholic, there are frequent confessions.

kenny on July 17, 2014 at 1:59 PM

You’re among sinners, all of us, kenny :)

Schadenfreude on July 17, 2014 at 3:13 PM

You’re among sinners, all of us, kenny :)

Schadenfreude on July 17, 2014 at 3:13 PM

Yup, and we all do better when we help each other out. Nice job guys :) Really.

captnjoe on July 17, 2014 at 3:19 PM

Not going to look it up, but way back when the one was elected he made another dim comment to the effect that he was now driving the car and the repubs were assigned to the back seat.

Now, apparently,for all this time no ones been driving the car.

So, using their circular and non logical logic, it goes back to being Bush’s fault.

DWoDiego on July 17, 2014 at 3:23 PM

I would like to see a debate between Joe, Hillary, and Elizabeth Warren. Talk about a veritable feast of warmed over leftist talking points…

Doc Holliday on July 17, 2014 at 3:25 PM

You define the word “gracious”. :)
captnjoe on July 17, 2014 at 2:59 PM

*smoooooch!*

Newtie and the Beauty on July 17, 2014 at 3:31 PM

I would like to see a debate between Joe, Hillary, and Elizabeth Warren. Talk about a veritable feast of warmed over leftist talking points…
Doc Holliday on July 17, 2014 at 3:25 PM

Mine?

Newtie and the Beauty on July 17, 2014 at 3:34 PM

Poor Joke must get regular screaming-fit calls from ValJar.

slickwillie2001 on July 17, 2014 at 3:52 PM

Mine?

Newtie and the Beauty on July 17, 2014 at 3:34 PM

Exactly!

Doc Holliday on July 17, 2014 at 3:52 PM

Change for the better is absolutely possible and I believe it’s close to inevitable if you’re the drivers of it.

Bizarre. Nothing but a rewording of “We are the change that we seek,” except sung by Dan Hill instead of Mick Jagger.

arhooley on July 17, 2014 at 4:15 PM

Joe Biden spoke to a national convention of progressives about the state of the nation and the status of Hope and Change. That status is kaput, according to Biden, but that’s because progressives haven’t been the “drivers” … which seems a bit puzzling, coming from the two-term VP representing the most “progressive” administration in decades.

Yes, but because black is now white and white is black, the truth has finally been revealed and now we know that “progressive” actually means “regressive”.

earlgrey on July 17, 2014 at 4:19 PM

To use one of his favorite first-term analogies, Obama and Biden have driven the car into the ditch, and now Biden wants everyone to forget who was at the wheel.

Yup.

Sorry, Clueless Joe

Athos on July 17, 2014 at 1:37 PM

Ah, a clever reference to “Shoeless Joe,” a ballplayer whose career was before any of us was born.
Didn’t he play when Biden was first elected to Congress?

itsnotaboutme on July 17, 2014 at 4:33 PM

Morever am given to inordinate cynicism and as a Catholic, there are frequent confessions.

kenny on July 17, 2014 at 1:59 PM

You’re among sinners, all of us, kenny :)

Schadenfreude on July 17, 2014 at 3:13 PM

A guy goes into the confession booth and says “Forgive me Father for I have sinned. I recently beat up an Obama supporter.”
The priest says “Son, I’m here for you to confess your sins, not brag about your community service.”

dentarthurdent on July 17, 2014 at 4:49 PM

Like going public and admitting he was a failure for the two terms in office.

albill on July 17, 2014 at 5:16 PM

Two incompetents……..and one wants to be the next President.

Exit Question: Will people really be that STUPID?

GarandFan on July 17, 2014 at 5:20 PM

Exit Question: Will people really be that STUPID?

GarandFan on July 17, 2014 at 5:20 PM

With King Putt getting re-elected, do you really need to ask that question?

I suppose we know full well the people CAN be that stupid, but perhaps it’s fair to ask if they WILL be that stupid, again…

dentarthurdent on July 17, 2014 at 5:32 PM

dentarthurdent on July 17, 2014 at 4:49 PM

Perfect

Schadenfreude on July 17, 2014 at 5:58 PM