One horrible poll for Colorado’s Democratic governor

posted at 1:21 pm on July 16, 2014 by Noah Rothman

Colorado, once a reliably Republican state, looks more blue than purple these days.

Even amid 2010’s Republican rout of Democratic candidates across the country, Colorado surprised much of the political establishment when Democrats won both statewide races. In 2012, the Centennial State again voted for President Barack Obama by more than 5 points, cementing its status as a premier member of the Democrat’s impenetrable Blue Wall.

This year, Colorado voters will again head to the polls and, on paper, Republicans in this state are far better positioned than they were in 2010.

In a deft maneuver, Ken Buck, a former district attorney who ran for Senate and lost in 2010, agreed to run for Rep. Cory Gardner (R-CO) seat so that the sophomore congressman can serve as the GOP’s federal candidate this year. The straight-shooting political handicapper Stuart Rothenberg recently said Gardner “may well be the best GOP challenger in the country.”

The GOP is similarly blessed in that Democratic Gov. John Hickenlooper faces off against former Rep. Bob Beauprez (R-CO) this year. In 2010, Hickenlooper was the beneficiary of a local GOP civil war. That year, the party’s gubernatorial nominee, local businessman Dan Maes, had to contend with former Rep. Tom Tancredo who also ran for governor as an independent. Even though both candidates split the conservative vote, however, Hickenlooper still emerged on election night with 51 percent of the popular vote.

In spite of the fact that Colorado Republicans seem to have their act together, the party still faces an uphill battle in the state. A set of surveys released on Tuesday appeared to confirm that the state is prepared live up to its reputation as a reliable member of Democratic Party’s new majority coalition.

An NBC News/Marist poll released Tuesday showed Centennial voters favoring incumbent Sen. Mark Udall (D-CO) over Gardner by 48 to 41 percent. The poll also showed Hickenlooper beating Beauprez with 49 to 43 percent support. But these results were called into question on Wednesday by the release of a Quinnipiac University poll of the Colorado governor’s race.

That survey found Beauprez, a figure who has not held federal office since 2007, has remarkably low name recognition. 31 percent of respondents said they had a favorable view of the candidate while 25 percent said they viewed him negatively, but a staggering 43 percent said they had not heard enough about Beauprez to form an opinion. Even though voters know nothing about him, Quinnipiac’s survey reveals that they are prepared to give him a shot. The poll found Beauprez leading Hickenlooper with 44 to 43 percent.

Beauprez’s strength in this survey has everything to do with Hickenlooper’s weakness. The poll found Hickenlooper’s favorability rating collapsing from 51 percent in April to 43 percent today. 48 percent approve of the job he has done in office while 46 percent disapprove. 42 percent of respondents said Hickenlooper deserves reelection while 48 percent disagreed. Those results were reversed in April.

It is hard to square these results with NBC’s. The NBC/Marist poll found a comparable number of voters had no opinion or had never heard of Beauprez (38 percent), but it also found that Hickenlooper’s job approval rating is 19 points above water (54/35 percent). Similarly, NBC found voters in the Centennial state have a favorable impression of their governor (51/36 percent).

It will take a lot more data to get a clearer picture of how the race in Colorado is shaping up. But if Hickenlooper is as much of a drag at the top of the ticket as Quinnipiac suggests, the GOP is poised to benefit in a number of down-ballot races.


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Dude…where’s my weed?

Galtian on July 16, 2014 at 1:22 PM

“Man, thats a great piece……where’s my bong”

~Noah

BobMbx on July 16, 2014 at 1:24 PM

The poll found Hickenlooper’s favorability rating collapsing from 51 percent in April to 43 percent today. 48 percent approve of the job he has done in office while 46 percent disapprove. 42 percent of respondents said Hickenlooper deserves reelection while 48 percent disagreed. Those results were reversed in April.

Maybe CO residents just want a better pool player in office. How is Beauprez’s game?

Bitter Clinger on July 16, 2014 at 1:30 PM

Fire all the rats!

Bmore on July 16, 2014 at 1:30 PM

Yeah, all the potheads will be stoned and won’t give an eff about elections as far as they can buy weed legally….

The democrats really *ucked themselves on that…….

redguy on July 16, 2014 at 1:30 PM

What’s your point, Noah??

bimmcorp on July 16, 2014 at 1:33 PM

ChickenLopez is an amnesty shill, too.

Joe Mama on July 16, 2014 at 1:34 PM

Hickenpooper was destroyed by gun control.

If the GOP would come out as anti amnesty they’d clean up too, but they are pro amnesty.

ConstantineXI on July 16, 2014 at 1:36 PM

The photo of the Governor shooting pool with B.O. while illegals are swarming across the border helps explain his sinking poll numbers.

3dpuzzman on July 16, 2014 at 1:37 PM

Still kind of early. The numbers don’t mean as much as the trend.

Another data set to file.

cozmo on July 16, 2014 at 1:39 PM

Even amid 2010’s Republican route of Democratic candidates across the country

Ummmm….

bigmacdaddy on July 16, 2014 at 1:40 PM

For all of you, traitors of the USA.

Schadenfreude on July 16, 2014 at 1:42 PM

Your move, CO!

22044 on July 16, 2014 at 1:42 PM

Cantorize all the traitors of the USA.

Otherwise, enjoy your slavery and work harder, fools.

Schadenfreude on July 16, 2014 at 1:43 PM

¡Eh, tú gringos blancos americanos y los Yankees puede obtener cabreado todo lo que quieras. El Congreso de Zuckerberg es a cargo y sabemos que es EBT Tarjetas y estancias prolongadas en centros turísticos de nuestro futuro.

Nos ama a Obama y los demócratas. Estamos votando por ellos cuando ese tribunal concede el derecho de voto. Nos votar en Texas, Arizona, Colorado.

Ustedes republicanos y locos del Tea Party no gustará el poder de nuevo.

Viva el nuevo México (antes de que la tierra invasor europeo conocido como América).

Hey you white American gringos and yankees can get pissed off all you want. The Zuckerberg Congress is in charge and we know it’s EBT Cards and extended stays in resorts in our future.

We loves Obama and the Democrats. We voting for them when that court grants the right to vote. We voting in Texas, Arizona, Colorado.

You republicans and tea party wackos will never taste power again.

Viva the new Mexico (formerly that European invader land known as America).

PappyD61 on July 16, 2014 at 1:44 PM

One horrible poll for Colorado’s Democratic governor

…was it done…before they ‘toked’…or after?

JugEarsButtHurt on July 16, 2014 at 1:45 PM

For you, the latrine rats.

Too bad the Rs don’t deserve it.

Schadenfreude on July 16, 2014 at 1:46 PM

Wake up, or go under.

Schadenfreude on July 16, 2014 at 1:49 PM

http://www.thesocialcontract.com/artman2/publish/tsc1101/article_717.shtml

The Albuquerque Tribune in its issue of January 31, 2000, reported at length on one man’s plan for a Republica del Norte. The new republic, according to its herald, Dr. Charles Truxillo, an adjunct professor of Chicano Studies at the University of New Mexico, should be brought into existence ‘by any means necessary.’(1) Despite this impatient tone, Truxillo admits that the new Republica del Norte will probably not come into being until toward the end of the century. When it does take its place among the nations of the world, it will be a sovereign Chicano nation straddling the present U.S.-Mexican border. North of the border, it will comprise the present states of California, Arizona, New Mexico, Texas, and part of Colorado. South of the border, it will include the present Mexican states of Baja California, Sonora, Chihuahua, Coahuila, Nuevo Leon, and Tamaulipas.

Why will the rest of Mexico not be included in the new republic? The Albuquerque Tribune’s reporter did not ask this question, but a reasonable guess is that the republic’s boundaries will be drawn to include only the northern industrial belt of Mexico. This is the area of Mexico where the pro-capitalist National Action Party (PAN) has elected governors. Northern Mexico also has the highest concentration of people who are wholly or mostly of Caucasian descent. Southern Mexico is Indian Mexico and seems to be in a state of insurgency more often than not.(2) Although the Marxist opposition party, the Democratic Revolution Party (PRD) is strong in the southernmost provinces, the Institutional Revolutionary Party (PRI) still manages to dominate them through force and fraud.

Truxillo believes in the right of a state to secede. Although the U.S. government might deny that right to its own states, it at least once recognized the right of Mexican states to secede. The notorious example of the latter was, of course, the U.S.-approved transformation of Tejas into Texas. (Santa-Anna could have argued – and perhaps did so, because he lived until 1876 – that he was only trying to do what Lincoln did.)

Along both sides of the border, according to Truxillo, ‘there is a growing fusion, a reviving of connections. Southwest Chicanos and Norteno Mexicanos are becoming one people again.’ They must become one people again, and independent, because they ‘have been ruled by three empires, Spain, Mexico, and the United States. Under all three systems, we have failed to achieve self-determination.’(3)

https://sites.google.com/site/charlestruxillo/home/el-plan-del-norte

PappyD61 on July 16, 2014 at 1:52 PM

Usted población de esos Estados tendrá que aprender de sus nuevos nombres.

Luisiana
Maine
Misisipí
Misuri
Nueva Jersey
Nuevo Mexico
Nueva York
Carolina del Norte
Dakota del Norte
Carolina del Sur
Dakota del Sur

You people in these states will have to learn your new names.
Louisiana
Maine
Mississippi
Missouri
New Jersey
New Mexico
New York
North Carolina
North Dakota
South Carolina
South Dakota

PappyD61 on July 16, 2014 at 1:52 PM

The skiing is less crowded, more challenging, and far better in Wyoming, Utah, Montana, and Idaho. And so is the elk hunting.

Suck it, Stonerado.

M240H on July 16, 2014 at 1:55 PM

Up here, in the high country, few of us can say Hickenlooper’s name without spitting.

partsnlabor on July 16, 2014 at 1:55 PM

Yeah right. I’ll see it when I believe it. Colorado has gotten all kinds of stupid since I moved here. I support weed legalization by the way, so I don’t even factor that into my “all kinds of stupid” conclusion.

Mostly I think it’s the jerks in California who f’d up that state and are taking off to repeat their mistakes elsewhere.

Keep in mind we had “Republicans” who were happy to help set up a state Obamacare exchange.

Andy in Colorado on July 16, 2014 at 1:57 PM

Usted población de esos Estados tendrá que aprender de sus nuevos nombres.

Luisiana
Maine
Misisipí
Misuri
Nueva Jersey
Nuevo Mexico
Nueva York
Carolina del Norte
Dakota del Norte
Carolina del Sur
Dakota del Sur

You people in these states will have to learn your new names.
Louisiana
Maine
Mississippi
Missouri
New Jersey
New Mexico
New York
North Carolina
North Dakota
South Carolina
South Dakota

PappyD61 on July 16, 2014 at 1:52 PM

Demasiado fácil para el pueblo de Maine

Nutstuyu on July 16, 2014 at 2:00 PM

Yeah, all the potheads will be stoned and won’t give an eff about elections as far as they can buy weed legally….

The democrats really *ucked themselves on that…….

redguy on July 16, 2014 at 1:30 PM

The conservatives had a strong showing in supporting the new marijuana law. Colorado is far from as black and white politically as many other states. There are places in Colorado that a Democrat wouldn’t let you take their guns from them unless you killed them.

Denver and Boulder are the liberal pockets in Colorado. The rest of the state, it’s a mixed bag of Democrats who support some conservative idea, conservatives who support some liberal/libertarian idea and 1/3 of the state are independents who vote person, not party.

Your lack of knowledge of Colorado politics and your simplistic attitude toward the marijuana situation here makes me think I’m glad you’re not a Coloradan.

Walter L. Newton on July 16, 2014 at 2:04 PM

Colorado, once a reliably Republican state, looks more blue than purple these days.

Well, there’s the “blue kisses” meth and Panama Red weed, so those two mixed would indeed be purple.

Dr. ZhivBlago on July 16, 2014 at 2:05 PM

Se Maine. :-)

PappyD61 on July 16, 2014 at 2:05 PM

Up here, in the high country, few of us can say Hickenlooper’s name without spitting.

partsnlabor on July 16, 2014 at 1:55 PM

Yeah right. I’ll see it when I believe it. Colorado has gotten all kinds of stupid since I moved here. I support weed legalization by the way, so I don’t even factor that into my “all kinds of stupid” conclusion.

Mostly I think it’s the jerks in California who f’d up that state and are taking off to repeat their mistakes elsewhere.

Keep in mind we had “Republicans” who were happy to help set up a state Obamacare exchange.

Andy in Colorado on July 16, 2014 at 1:57 PM

It’s worth noting that it’s the Peoples’ Republik of Denver-Boulder that is the most “blue” – but also has the largest population – thanks in part to the migration of Kalifornicators.
The rest of the state is mostly red.
Look at a map of the state legislators by party and you’ll see the red vs blue distinction very clearly.

Here’s hoping Chickenpooper blew it with his Bloomy gun control (and associated lies) and his pool party with King Putt.

dentarthurdent on July 16, 2014 at 2:06 PM

Yeah right. I’ll see it when I believe it. Colorado has gotten all kinds of stupid since I moved here. I support weed legalization by the way, so I don’t even factor that into my “all kinds of stupid” conclusion.

Mostly I think it’s the jerks in California who f’d up that state and are taking off to repeat their mistakes elsewhere.

Keep in mind we had “Republicans” who were happy to help set up a state Obamacare exchange.

Andy in Colorado on July 16, 2014 at 1:57 PM

The conservative politicians we have here have gotten stupid, not the people. If the Republicans would stop infighting and putting up far-right loony idiots (like Tancredo), things would have never gone south.

Walter L. Newton on July 16, 2014 at 2:10 PM

Walter L. Newton on July 16, 2014 at 2:04 PM

Agreed. The amount of seething I see from people who know nothing about marijuana, bitching about what Colorado and Washington did, is disheartening. It would be as though we tried to apply some alcoholic stereotypes to everyone who has a drink. It’s moronic.

Andy in Colorado on July 16, 2014 at 2:10 PM

The conservative politicians we have here have gotten stupid, not the people. If the Republicans would stop infighting and putting up far-right loony idiots (like Tancredo), things would have never gone south.

Walter L. Newton on July 16, 2014 at 2:10 PM

Correction. If we didn’t have “far-right loony idiots like Tancredo” sucking some of the votes from the fringe…

Walter L. Newton on July 16, 2014 at 2:11 PM

Eh, Tancredo did the right thing spoiling Maes, who had no business being where he was. The Republicans certainly didn’t put him up, nor did they nominate him over Bob Beauprez, obviously.

That said, I’ve pretty much been a part of “Let it burn” since 2012. But I hope like hell I get proven wrong about that whole thing, starting this November.

Andy in Colorado on July 16, 2014 at 2:14 PM

By the way, what is it with the Tancredo hatred? He is known as a single-issue type of guy (immigration) at least from my perspective, but on balance he has that kinda right, no? I mean, with establishment types you wind up with amnesty. At least he’s wholeheartedly not for amnesty.

Andy in Colorado on July 16, 2014 at 2:16 PM

Having lived in Colorado most of the time since 1979, I can tell you it’s gotten bluer. I honestly don’t know what to think about the surveys. My husband participated in the NBC poll where Gardner is behind by 7%. I’m not so sure about the results. It took us a long time to answer the phone call and the questions were skewed to the left. How many other conservatives don’t answer the phone. I think gun control is a big issue and that’s probably why I’m seeing ads that are talking about women’s rights. It’s a case of “nothing to see here”.

COgirl on July 16, 2014 at 2:21 PM

By the way, what is it with the Tancredo hatred? He is known as a single-issue type of guy (immigration) at least from my perspective, but on balance he has that kinda right, no? I mean, with establishment types you wind up with amnesty. At least he’s wholeheartedly not for amnesty.

Andy in Colorado on July 16, 2014 at 2:16 PM

How long have you been in Colorado?

Tancredo is not single issue, although he likes to use his immigration dance when he sees the oppertunity. He’s was for the marijuana law passage (and he doesn’t seem to have much of a problem with other drugs).

This will help…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Tancredo

Walter L. Newton on July 16, 2014 at 2:23 PM

Correction. If we didn’t have “far-right loony idiots like Tancredo” sucking some of the votes from the fringe…

Walter L. Newton on July 16, 2014 at 2:11 PM
Andy in Colorado on July 16, 2014 at 2:14 PM
Andy in Colorado on July 16, 2014 at 2:16 PM

Ya – I have to side with Andy on this one.
Tancredo is a bit of a loose cannon – very non-PC – which means the lefties can create a lot of ammo to attack him. However, he’s fundamentally a solid conservative with a good voting record when he was in Congress.
I actually voted for Tancredo in the primary (my wife voted for Beauprez), because I see Beauprez as more of a GOPe type who lost BADLY to Ritter 12 years ago in a one-on-one race. And Tancredo di pretty well 4 years ago as a 3rd party candidate with the conservative vote split and no GOP support.

But I’d be happy with either Tancredo or Beauprez as Governor instead of Chickenpooper.

dentarthurdent on July 16, 2014 at 2:24 PM

COgirl on July 16, 2014 at 2:21 PM

Remember back in the 80′s when Coloradans were pitching a stink about all the Texans moving up there?

How do they like it having Californians in stead?

cozmo on July 16, 2014 at 2:24 PM

Tancredo is not single issue, although he likes to use his immigration dance when he sees the oppertunity. He’s was for the marijuana law passage (and he doesn’t seem to have much of a problem with other drugs).

This will help…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Tancredo

Walter L. Newton on July 16, 2014 at 2:23 PM

I’ll have to admit, I’m kind of on the fence on the pot issue myself – so Tancredo supporting it doesn’t really bother me.
I don’t like pot, and I voted against the legalization (almost a coin toss), but I also see the alcohol prohibition side of the argument for legalization as well – make it legal and tax it just like tobacco and alcohol – instead of leaving it as a black market item for tax free drug gang profits.

dentarthurdent on July 16, 2014 at 2:28 PM

Se Maine. :-)

PappyD61 on July 16, 2014 at 2:05 PM

I see what you did there!

Here’s hoping Chickenpooper blew it with his Bloomy gun control (and associated lies) and his pool party with King Putt.

dentarthurdent on July 16, 2014 at 2:06 PM

Fingers crossed.

The conservative politicians we have here have gotten stupid, not the people. If the Republicans would stop infighting and putting up far-right loony idiots (like Tancredo), things would have never gone south.

Walter L. Newton on July 16, 2014 at 2:10 PM

Whatever! Tancredo is one of the most Constitutional politicians in the state. There’s a difference between loon and lacking political finesse. At least he doesn’t lie about what he stands for.

UnstChem on July 16, 2014 at 2:28 PM

Remember back in the 80′s when Coloradans were pitching a stink about all the Texans moving up there?

How do they like it having Californians in stead?

cozmo on July 16, 2014 at 2:24 PM

I’ll take Texans over Kalifornians any day.
But these days, everyone is moving TO Texas, not away – and certainly not much movement from Texas TO Colorado.

(BTW – I’ve also been in CO since 1979)

dentarthurdent on July 16, 2014 at 2:31 PM

But I’d be happy with either Tancredo or Beauprez as Governor instead of Chickenpooper.

dentarthurdent on July 16, 2014 at 2:24 PM

Everything you said was exactly why I don’t like Tancredo. He’s a liability. A lot of the conservatives in this state tend to be small “l” libertarian, and Tancredo tends to muck things up a lot.

But I would agree with your statement above.

I’ve met Hickenlooper. I’ve interview Hickenlooper. He’s really not that much of an intellect in my opinion, and that’s why I think he’s so open to following folks like Bloomberg and accepting too many recommendations from his staff.

I believe he’s sincere. I couldn’t detect that he was putting on an act for me (and I’m damn good in reading someone, right through their facade).

But he’s a puppet, plain and simple.

Walter L. Newton on July 16, 2014 at 2:31 PM

Whatever! Tancredo is one of the most Constitutional politicians in the state. There’s a difference between loon and lacking political finesse. At least he doesn’t lie about what he stands for.

UnstChem on July 16, 2014 at 2:28 PM

+++

I actually kind of like the fact that Tancredo is NOT PC at all and says what he really thinks.

Seeing as Beauprez has been the head of the CO GOP for several years, I’m afraid he may be more of a GOPe type – but still better than Hick.

dentarthurdent on July 16, 2014 at 2:34 PM

Seeing as Beauprez has been the head of the CO GOP for several years, I’m afraid he may be more of a GOPe type – but still better than Hick.

dentarthurdent on July 16, 2014 at 2:34 PM

That’s right. But one step at a time grasshopper :)

Walter L. Newton on July 16, 2014 at 2:37 PM

I have those same reservations even tho I see Beauprez as more of a traditional Republican than GOPe. I know there are some that see both as the same thing. I think there is still a difference.

UnstChem on July 16, 2014 at 2:45 PM

That’s right. But one step at a time grasshopper :)

Walter L. Newton on July 16, 2014 at 2:37 PM

Ya – it wasn’t an easy choice (for me) between Beauprez and Tancredo – pros and cons for both in my mind.
My wife and I debated it back and forth many nights – and we ended up splitting our votes, one each way.
She also does not like Tancredo.

dentarthurdent on July 16, 2014 at 2:47 PM

Andy in Colorado on July 16, 2014

The losses in 2010 were because the Colorado Republican party deliberately threw the Governor’s and Senate races. The regular candidates self-destructed [I was supporting Scott McInnis who I have known since before he became a Congressman] and Dan Maes, flaws and all, won the caucuses, the convention, and the primary. He was TEA Party and got no support at all from the state party. In fact, the day after the primary, the state central committee demanded he resign and let them name a candidate in his place. They instigated and funded Tom Tancredo becoming the Constitution party’s candidate in order to split the vote rather than chance a TEA Party candidate having a good showing statewide.

I left the Republican party in disgust on January 2, 2013. Before that I had only missed two state conventions as a delegate since I could vote. I have run a county level presidential campaign. I have some knowledge of how the Republican party is run here. They are more concerned with keeping the base under control than with either policy or defeating Democrats.

I don’t like the Colorado Republican Party. And I have had a couple of up close encounters with Bob Beauprez this year that he did not like, one of which was both impressive and caught on video.

Yet, he will probably be the only Republican candidate at state level this year that I will vote for. Because, there are 3 candidates that must be defeated for the sake of the country and the 2nd Amendment this cycle, and the one in Colorado is Hickenlooper.

Oh, by the way, the Colorado Republicans are now claiming that they supported the recalls of the three Democrat state senators who sponsored the anti-gun bills we are fighting in court. We recalled 2 and one resigned. This was done despite the Colorado Republican Party which disapproves of recalls on principle. They wanted us to wait till the next election. They don’t like any grassroots activity. Especially if they don’t control it.

Subotai Bahadur on July 16, 2014 at 2:54 PM

Subotai Bahadur on July 16, 2014 at 2:54 PM

Very interesting perspective on the GOP happenings in CO.
And funny how the GOP is now trying to take credit for the recalls that they did not support, but were entirely grassroots efforts.
It appears to back up my opinion as to Beauprez likely being a GOPe type.

However, even understanding your position about the GOPe, you would vote for Udall instead of Gardner?

dentarthurdent on July 16, 2014 at 3:24 PM

I wonder if the good numbers for Hickenlooper were surveyed before his bro outing with Obama at Wynkoop (Hickenlooper’s brewpub) and the bad numbers were from afterwards. As others have mentioned, the gun control activity here damaged Hickenlooper badly.

Long Legged MacDaddy on July 16, 2014 at 3:33 PM

NBC News/Marist Poll

Every time I see that, I always read, “NBC News/Marxist Poll”.

oldleprechaun on July 16, 2014 at 3:44 PM

Walter L. Newton on July 16, 2014 at 2:10 PM

It’s moronic.

Andy in Colorado on July 16, 2014 at 2:10 PM

These nincompoops think no one smokes pot in states where it isn’t legal.

Meremortal on July 16, 2014 at 3:45 PM

Referring to some of the other commenters, not Walter and Andy, BTW.

Meremortal on July 16, 2014 at 3:46 PM

Subotai Bahadur on July 16, 2014 at 2:54 PM

I agree mostly with what you said, in particular about the recalls. I noticed the GOP not supporting them and deciding to try and take credit for them once they were successful. I pretty much despise the GOP in Colorado as well, and I was pretty much done with them after 2012, like you.

Dan Maes was not a good candidate. He wasn’t beating Hickenlooper anyhow.

I’ve been here only since the very end of 2005, so not so long.

I have to say I don’t understand why you wouldn’t vote for Gardner, or at least against Mark Udall. Udall is a typical Boulder liberal who in a sane world would be nowhere near where he is.

I know Tancredo isn’t really a “single issue” guy, but he’s known for the single issue pretty far and wide. And his support for drug legalization, whether weed or anything else, doesn’t bother me. Sorry, but if you want to ingest a substance, as long as you’re not hurting anybody else, I don’t have an issue with that.

I could have sworn I saw something recently about drug cartels & farmers seeing MASSIVE income dry-up due to the marijuana legalization here. These people are vicious thugs and murderers, and putting them out of business will have a markedly positive impact on crime. Some people want to pick at the margins and point out people who ingest a huge amount of weed and jump out a hotel window, but even were we to grant an argument that people will be hurt by the passage of legalization, far many more people are now NOT going to be hurt by the cartels. But it’s hard to point out something that didn’t happen.

Andy in Colorado on July 16, 2014 at 4:04 PM

Ah, yes, Colorado…another state taken over and controlled by the Democrats. Yet another reason why, in approximately 2 1/2 years, we’ll be seeing President Hillary Clinton being sworn-in. It’s over, folks. We’re history….

Bob Davis on July 16, 2014 at 4:40 PM

Ah, yes, Colorado…another state taken over and controlled by the Democrats. Yet another reason why, in approximately 2 1/2 years, we’ll be seeing President Hillary Clinton being sworn-in. It’s over, folks. We’re history….

Bob Davis on July 16, 2014 at 4:40 PM

I don’t necessarily disagree, but you made me think of this:

Hudson: That’s it, man. Game over, man! Game over! What the flvck are we gonna do now? What are we gonna do?
.
.
.
Hudson: Seventeen *days?* Hey man, I don’t wanna rain on your parade, but we’re not gonna last seventeen *hours!* Those things are gonna come in here just like they did before. And they’re gonna come in here…
Hudson: …and they’re gonna come in here AND THEY’RE GONNA GET US!

LOL.

dentarthurdent on July 16, 2014 at 4:54 PM

I think Colorado is more libertarian than either blue or red, truthfully. The Demmies always find something to put on the ballot to bring out the liberal kids. Marijuana, for example. They’re just shrewder than we are. Not sure where fracking stands as far as being on the ballot, but that could be this year’s issue.

Tancredo is not the loose cannon he’s portrayed as. He was my rep for many years and I’ve met him a few times. Just a nice fellow who believes that there are rules. My heart said to vote for him in the primary, but I thought Demmies would make him the issue, so Beauprez got my vote.

Udall needs to go down. He’s the ultimate Obama follower. Hasn’t got a brain of his own.

COgirl on July 16, 2014 at 4:54 PM

Even amid 2010’s Republican route of Democratic candidates across the country, Colorado surprised much of the political establishment when Democrats won both statewide races.

I think that you mean rout, not route. :)

Theophile on July 16, 2014 at 5:42 PM

Upcoming acid test for Colorado.
If they don’t shift gears and soon, the Kalifornians shall totally overwhelm it like cockroaches. Exactly like cockroaches.

Tard on July 16, 2014 at 5:46 PM

If they don’t shift gears and soon, the Kalifornians shall totally overwhelm it like cockroaches. Exactly like cockroaches.

Tard on July 16, 2014 at 5:46 PM

Except cockroaches are smarter, smaller, less obnoxious, eat/take less, cleaner, don’t smell as bad, carry fewer diseases, don’t screw things up as bad, and easier to squash if/when it becomes necessary.

dentarthurdent on July 16, 2014 at 6:02 PM

Colorado. What a state. Scenic beauty marred by hordes of ugly liberals from Calfornia.

john1schn on July 16, 2014 at 6:07 PM

Except cockroaches are smarter, smaller, less obnoxious, eat/take less, cleaner, don’t smell as bad, carry fewer diseases, don’t screw things up as bad, and easier to squash if/when it becomes necessary.

dentarthurdent on July 16, 2014 at 6:02 PM

OK, uh ‘… just like lepers’ ?

Tard on July 16, 2014 at 6:13 PM

Colorado. What a state. Scenic beauty marred by hordes of ugly liberals from Calfornia.

john1schn on July 16, 2014 at 6:07 PM

Yup. Sad to see.

dentarthurdent on July 16, 2014 at 6:13 PM

OK, uh ‘… just like lepers’ ?

Tard on July 16, 2014 at 6:13 PM

Ya, even lepers would be better than the Kali’s.
They don’t actively TRY to stick their fingers into everything….
And at least when a leper visits, he might leave you something….

;)

dentarthurdent on July 16, 2014 at 6:18 PM

Even amid 2010’s Republican route of Democratic candidates across the country

Ummmm….

bigmacdaddy on July 16, 2014 at 1:40 PM

Good point. Let’s try to fix it. I think

Even amid 2010’s Republican routerout of Democratic candidates across the country

would be more accurate.

Sadly,

Even amid 20102014’s Republican route of Democratic [voters for Republican] candidates across the country

would also be fairly accurate.
would also be an acceptable fix

There Goes the Neighborhood on July 16, 2014 at 7:41 PM

First, all y’all can get off the ‘bash Californians’ topic. As a native of the state, it’s offensive. If it sucks so bad, why are so many people who LIVE here not FROM here? That said, the people who have screwed up this once great state — who moved here from somewhere else generally — are the reason we’ll be moving out soon. It’s sad because the state has so much to offer. But the unfunded pension liabilities at the state level, the burdensome taxes, rampant illegals, and anti-gun/business/prosperity efforts coming out of Sacramento are all making retiring here impossible.

Ironically, my wife wants to return to her home state, CO. For a lot of the reasons stated in this string (battleground state, pot legalization, anti-gun leaning), I don’t want to move there. I’d prefer to move to another state that’s solidly red. Since I’ll lose the fight errr discussion, y’all can count on one red and one purple (wife) voter headed your way from California soon. Thank you for the education on the pols under consideration. At least I’ll have some idea for whom I should be voting once we get there!

Biffstir on July 17, 2014 at 2:38 PM