Quotes of the day

posted at 10:01 pm on July 15, 2014 by Allahpundit

Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul might be onto something…

As troubles mount overseas, the Republicans’ once-steadfast support for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan has crumbled since President Barack Obama was sworn in for a second term, according to the results of a June Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll and a related Journal/NBC/Annenberg Survey…

These deteriorating numbers for both wars coincide with a growing belief in the country as a whole that the U.S. should shrink from the world stage, as Iraq erupts in sectarian violence, tensions simmer in Ukraine and a civil war grinds on in Syria. For years, the wars were in Iraq and Afghanistan were a polarizing issue, “but now there’s a surprisingly level of agreement,” said Micah Roberts, a Republican who helps conduct the Journal poll.

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The preemptive strikes suggest that many in GOP fear Paul is winning the foreign policy argument with the American people — and that that could make him a formidable candidate in 2016. After all, second-tier presidential hopefuls don’t usually get shouted down this way.

“I think the general fear on the part of a lot of leaders in the Republican Party is that there’s an isolationist temptation after two big wars, an isolationist temptation in the American electorate,” said Elliott Abrams, a senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations who was a deputy national security adviser in the George W. Bush administration. “And I think people are genuinely concerned about it and desirous of trying to stop it before it spreads further.”…

The hawks don’t doubt that there are some Republicans who share Paul’s views. But they’re concerned that, in the heat of a presidential campaign, the coverage will make the foreign policy debate within the GOP sound more evenly divided than it really is.

“I think there is a fear that you’re going to see a million stories saying the Republican Party is divided between two views — the Rand Paul view and the other view — as if it were a 50-50 thing, rather than Paul being isolated on the fringe,” Abrams said.

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Other foreign policy experts within the party seized the opportunity to suggest that the GOP needs, as a matter of both national security and electoral strategy, to move beyond the interventionism of the Iraq War era. Paul himself is fond of noting that Fox News’ Megyn Kelly told former Vice President Cheney, in an on-air interview last month, that that “history has proven that you got it wrong” on Iraq.

“He’s doing a lot to spark debate and to not just fall into step with the traditional military-industrial complex establishment,” said Elise Jordan, a former State Department speechwriter during the second Bush-Cheney term. “I don’t think that anything about Rand Paul is necessarily that different from the classical realist, which is how I would categorize Condoleezza Rice and a lot of the bright stars of Republican foreign policy over the years.”

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What Paul is proposing is that he is the Republican candidate willing (and able) to handle the party’s long-delayed reckoning with the war in Iraq. That conflict, premised on the false idea that Saddam Hussein possessed weapons of mass destruction, has never been fully litigated within the GOP. President George W. Bush spent his time in office defending this rightness of the effort, and the party’s 2008 presidential nominee, Arizona Sen. John McCain, was arguably even more hawkish than Bush on Iraq. In the aftermath of the 2008 loss, the voice that filled the leadership vacuum for Republicans was former Vice President Dick Cheney, who steadfastly defended the policies of the Bush Administration. Four years later, the struggles of the domestic economy pushed discussion of Iraq (or any other foreign policy issues) out of the public’s collective consciousness…

What Paul is arguing is that the war in Iraq was a mistake because his party (and many Democrats) didn’t take the time to think through all of the consequences of it beforehand. And that being the most powerful nation in the world doesn’t mean that always taking the most muscular option when it comes to dealing with other countries is the right thing to do.

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“This whole thing comes down to one Nevada billionaire,” said Rick Wilson, a GOP strategist who worked on Rudy Giuliani’s 2008 presidential campaign. “This is the Sheldon Adelson primary playing out. [Perry] is drawing a distinction between two very different visions of the party.”

Adelson, a casino magnate, helped bankroll Newt Gingrich’s and later Mitt Romney’s 2012 presidential run, and is a fervent supporter of Israel. Hence the persistent line of attack on Paul that his lack of support for beefing up the American military would endanger the Jewish state…

“Ten years ago the right of the party was the hawkish part of the party. That has changed,” said Doug Stafford, a former Paul chief of staff who now runs a Paul super PAC. “The base, the Tea Party, conservatives see the overreach and costs, and they don’t want endless foreign interventions, and good luck running for president out of step with the right of the party.”…

“He is pulling away, so they have to start attacking him,” said Wead. “I think there is a little bit of panic setting in.”

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Perry’s attack on Paul is obviously tactical. He has noticed that a lot of hawkish Republicans are furious with Paul, so he has decided to leverage himself some media attention and political support by going on the offensive…

The debate between these two men is distracting because one senses that neither will be their party’s nominee in 2016. Perry because, whatever his accomplishments as a governor, he comes across on the national stage as shallow. Paul because he is too philosophical and can be too easily labeled a maverick libertarian…

All of which suggests that the Republicans are in danger of forgetting who their real enemy is: the Democratic Party. Fascinating though these intellectual back-and-forths are, they contribute to the impression that the Republicans are cracking up as they obsessively strive for an official conservative ideological purity that they will never actually discover — because it doesn’t exist.

Conservatism is traditionally about a spirit or an approach to governing, not a list of commandments that must be defined every four years in an internal party spat that has all the ferocity and counting of angels on a pinhead of a religious war.

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Perry is right that in other ways, Paul is hardly Reagan’s foreign-policy clone. Paul, for instance, zealously advocates congressional limitations on a president’s national-security powers. Reagan, by contrast, oversaw the Iran-Contra scheme, which subverted Congress’s efforts to bar aid to Nicaragua’s anti-communist rebels.

Paul likes to quote George Kennan on the importance of distinguishing between those parts of the world where America has vital interests and those where it does not. That wasn’t Reagan’s style. As Perry points out, Reagan “identified Soviet communism as an existential threat to our national security and Western values, and he confronted this threat in every theater” (my emphasis). For Reagan, confronting Soviet communism meant denouncing it rhetorically and arming anti-communist rebels and regimes, not sending U.S. troops into other countries. But he took this approach virtually everywhere. For a Kennanite like Rand Paul, it doesn’t much matter who controls Angola. For Reagan, it absolutely did. Unlike Paul, Reagan also wasn’t concerned about how much his foreign policy cost.

So what would a Reaganite strategy against “radical Islam” look like? Based on Reagan’s record, particularly in his first term, it would be expensive, indiscriminate, rhetorically aggressive, hostile to congressional oversight, and cautious about deploying U.S. troops. It would, in other words, be a mess. Reagan was lucky enough to take office after Richard Nixon had exploited the Sino-Soviet rift and stopped treating communism as a unified menace. Even so, Reagan turned nearly every third-world civil war into a showdown between East and West, dramatically escalating the brutality of these conflicts even though struggles in places like Angola and Nicaragua were ultimately irrelevant to the course of the Cold War.

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Unlike Perry, I oppose sending American troops back into Iraq. After a decade of the United States training the Iraq’s military, when confronted by the enemy, the Iraqis dropped their weapons, shed their uniforms and hid. Our soldiers’ hard work and sacrifice should be worth more than that. Our military is too good for that.

I ask Governor Perry: How many Americans should send their sons or daughters to die for a foreign country—a nation the Iraqis won’t defend for themselves? How many Texan mothers and fathers will Governor Perry ask to send their children to fight in Iraq?

I will not hold my breath for an answer. If refusing to send Americans to die for a country that refuses to defend itself makes one an “isolationist,” then perhaps it’s time we finally retire that pejorative.

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oscarwilde on July 15, 2014 at 11:58 PM

Where there’s a will there’s a way, Mr. Wilde. It truly pains me to think of you giving up something that must have pleased you greatly to have collected over 10,000 books. I hope you can get back to it someday. :)

thatsafactjack on July 16, 2014 at 12:01 AM

To say that I used to be a voracious reader would be something of an understatement. My favorite pastime (aside from playing guitar) as a teenager and young adult, ok, until about 40 when my eyes betrayed be, was to go to bed at about 8pm with a book, and read it, then go to sleep after finishing it at about 3am in the morning. I think War and Peace took me 3 whole days to read.

oscarwilde on July 16, 2014 at 12:10 AM

Hi corkie,
Are you a boy leprechaun, a girl leprechaun or related to Twerp?
Parmenides on July 16, 2014 at 12:07 AM

*smooooch!*

Hi, Parm!

[sends Parm a Whatchudrinkin'...enters under "Cheese Ball Contest"...] :P

Newtie and the Beauty on July 16, 2014 at 12:11 AM

I always like the book better than the movie. I have never been big on movies…

OmahaConservative on July 16, 2014 at 12:11 AM

Doc Holliday on July 16, 2014 at 12:05 AM

Some people are natural collectors and will hold onto books they’ve had for years often to read and re-read them again and again, or collect reference books, looking up salient quotes, passages, and facts when necessary. I’m one of these.

Others will read a book once and move on, always yearning for that next new experience.

What’s important is that they are getting what they came for when they sat down with each book.

It sounds like your father-in-law has made good use of his books. :)

thatsafactjack on July 16, 2014 at 12:11 AM

Has Axe been about?

PointnClick on July 16, 2014 at 12:12 AM

[sends a Whatchudrinkin' to OC...slips OC a wee bit extra to avoid certain musical selections...enters under "Remuneration For Healthier Libation Appreciation and Operations"...]

Newtie and the Beauty on July 16, 2014 at 12:13 AM

Axe, do you remember the Headlines post about the people writing alien abduction and Biggfooot sex novellas…?

PointnClick on July 16, 2014 at 12:14 AM

ok gang, off to my bunk. Got a busy day of boat fixin’ tomorrow. Cap has to make sheckles to pay for the government shackles.

**Smooch and a hug Beauty!**

captnjoe on July 16, 2014 at 12:14 AM

Has Axe been about?
PointnClick on July 16, 2014 at 12:12 AM

Yes, PnC, he has been…he’s AFK…something about Spice Cake…

Newtie and the Beauty on July 16, 2014 at 12:14 AM

Has Axe been about?

PointnClick on July 16, 2014 at 12:12 AM

That poor b@stard.

Axe on July 16, 2014 at 12:14 AM

ok gang, off to my bunk. Got a busy day of boat fixin’ tomorrow. Cap has to make sheckles to pay for the government shackles.
**Smooch and a hug Beauty!**
captnjoe on July 16, 2014 at 12:14 AM

Niters and sleep well, Cap! Glad you remembered us while in port!

*smooooch!*

Newtie and the Beauty on July 16, 2014 at 12:15 AM

Has Axe been about?

PointnClick on July 16, 2014 at 12:12 AM

That poor b@stard.

Axe on July 16, 2014 at 12:14 AM

. . . I knew him, you know. He was kind of a big deal, really. But then he just . . .

It’s hard to talk about.

Axe on July 16, 2014 at 12:16 AM

Catholic Charities is planning to house ILLEGALS in Milwaukee Wisconsin

The federal government has given notice to a Milwaukee agency, Catholic Charities, that it may be called upon to help shelter hundreds of children in the Milwaukee area.

Milwaukee’s Voces da la Frontera, which deals with immigration issues, doesn’t see massive protests on the horizon here. Christine Neumann-Ortiz says helping the children should be a humanitarian issue — not a political one.

“I think it’s extremely important that we provide both housing, to be able to provide refuge for children who are fleeing extreme violence and in the meantime allowing them to access the immigration courts — especially if they have family here,”

In the Milwaukee area, Catholic Charities is waiting for word from the federal government on if and when the agency will house children.

It has already identified two schools and an office building that could be used for shelters.

http://fox6now.com/2014/07/15/children-crossing-into-the-u-s-by-the-thousands-could-milwaukee-be-called-upon-to-help-shelter-some/

Patriots in Milwaukee may surprise Voces de la Frontera with their Protest Organizing skills.

Just saw this info on FreeRepublic.com, so I think this is an early alert for Milwaukee.

wren on July 16, 2014 at 12:16 AM

Doc Holliday on July 16, 2014 at 12:05 AM

thatsafactjack on July 16, 2014 at 12:11 AM

I’m both. I keep the classics, and books on topics of interest, and give the others to reading clubs, mostly for Veterans.

Schadenfreude on July 16, 2014 at 12:17 AM

Let us hearken back to ye ole days of yore, from whence time itself was born, and the winged chariot vaulted across the sky marking the ecliptic, that seasonal arc cut by helios about which few have dared venture to divine its mysterious movements, as if penned by an omniscient steganographer with a penchant for secrecy, yeah I say lets go way back a spell, back before the sun dial was all the rage and termite mounds hardened with a purpose, yeah that far back when the only dinosaur was a baby dinosaur and the pleistocene was yet to be;

now catch a daft whiff of that aroma, I say its the essence of MG which emerged and coalesced from the plenum. Its so pure its made of nothing. That is MG, beautify cut from archetype of imperfect.

Parmenides on July 16, 2014 at 12:17 AM

It sounds like your father-in-law has made good use of his books. :)

thatsafactjack on July 16, 2014 at 12:11 AM

Yes indeed.
He has a very good memory–once through the books and he pretty much masters it.
He still works for various phone contractors who are doing updates and repairs all over the Southeast–they call him because not only does he know how to get the work done, but also because he was there the first time they did it, and know where everything is buried.You’d be surprised how mny times people have forgotten or lost records of where the stuff is…

Doc Holliday on July 16, 2014 at 12:18 AM

mny=many

Doc Holliday on July 16, 2014 at 12:18 AM

Doc Holliday on July 16, 2014 at 12:05 AM

Some people are natural collectors and will hold onto books they’ve had for years often to read and re-read them again and again, or collect reference books, looking up salient quotes, passages, and facts when necessary. I’m one of these.

Others will read a book once and move on, always yearning for that next new experience.

What’s important is that they are getting what they came for when they sat down with each book.

It sounds like your father-in-law has made good use of his books. :)

thatsafactjack on July 16, 2014 at 12:11 AM

ROTFLMAO… I ended up with that many books, because I’m really bad about throwing away useful items. Ok.. I’m somewhat of a pack-rat. If I think it is still useful, it gets saved. I have seven computers in various stages of taken apart, that should the need arise (like thats ever going to happen) that I could put back together in an hour or so. They go all the way back to a 166 Mhz 386… (and yes… I still have copies of DOS 6.1 and Win #.11 for Workgroups just in case I need them… as if)

oscarwilde on July 16, 2014 at 12:18 AM

BRB…

Newtie and the Beauty on July 16, 2014 at 12:18 AM

oscarwilde on July 16, 2014 at 12:10 AM

War and Peace. :)

Prince Andrei was always my favorite. He holds a special place in my heart to this day. So much to think about, and experience, riding with Andrei.

thatsafactjack on July 16, 2014 at 12:19 AM

I always like the book better than the movie. I have never been big on movies…

OmahaConservative on July 16, 2014 at 12:11 AM

You can never tell a book by its movie.

TXUS on July 16, 2014 at 12:19 AM

That is MG, beautify cut from archetype of imperfect PERFECTION.

Parmenides on July 16, 2014 at 12:17 AM

Parmenides on July 16, 2014 at 12:19 AM

Now catch a daft whiff of that aroma, I say its it’s the essence of MG which emerged and coalesced from the plenum. Its It’s so pure its it’s made of nothing. That is MG, beautify (???) cut from archetype of imperfect.

Parmenides on July 16, 2014 at 12:17 AM

Damn Greek

Schadenfreude on July 16, 2014 at 12:19 AM

Axe, do you remember the Headlines post about the people writing alien abduction and Biggfooot sex novellas…?

PointnClick on July 16, 2014 at 12:14 AM

. . . um, no . . .

I bookmarked the sex with ghosts one, and Parm linked alien abduction sex, and I have that.

. . . I remember a monster porn headline . . .

– Why? Working on something, or just bored? :)

Axe on July 16, 2014 at 12:20 AM

Free speech? Did Beckel support Phil Robertson?

China Joins Furor Over Fox News Host’s ‘Chinaman’ Comments

kcewa on July 16, 2014 at 12:07 AM

China and N. Korea have the worst crybabies in the world.

non-nonpartisan on July 16, 2014 at 12:21 AM

Let us hearken back to ye ole days of yore, from the netherworld of time’s vanished horizon, where a glimmer of luminescence streams from the fovea centralis back to its source and the photons dissolve into potential energy [now I have writers block.]

Parmenides on July 16, 2014 at 12:22 AM

That’s a pretty bad looking “rug.”

Not as bad as Trent Lott’s or George Will’s, but still pretty bad.

bw222 on July 16, 2014 at 12:23 AM

I need a copy editor and a sense maker.

Parmenides on July 16, 2014 at 12:23 AM

back before the sun dial was all the rage and termite mounds hardened with a purpose, yeah that far back when the only dinosaur was a baby dinosaur and the pleistocene was yet to be;

Parmenides on July 16, 2014 at 12:17 AM

lol :)

Axe on July 16, 2014 at 12:24 AM

Admittedly, Israel *is* one of the most notorious terrorist states out there, can you really blame Hamas?
libfreeordie on June 13, 2014 at 4:27 PM

Israel has been completely out of Gaza for about a decade. They left it in a semi functional de facto state with total autonomy. In that short time it has become an utter sh*thole with Hamas now in charge for a while. It stands against reason and record that Israel would choose, unprovoked, to meddle in that God forsaken place anymore. When you destroy your own settlements and get all your people out of there that demonstrates with crystal clarity that they wished to completely wash their hands with it.

It was Hamas that hastened its digression into sh*thole status and their natural and chartered tendency to lash out at the much more advanced and civilized society. They literally cannot help themselves. It was, as it always is, more important for them to hurl a daily barrage of rockets into a country that had tried with great restraint to just leave them alone on the condition they honor the same.

Now after many indiscriminate launches into her population centers whose positions of origins are equally indiscriminate (from heavily populated centers in Gaza are these rockets points of origin). Israel finally got fed up…again. And you have the gall to call Israel the terrorist nation from all of this?

What is it about half naked savagery you seem to empathize with while the much more advanced, civil, and peace seeking society is only defending itself from such?

anuts on July 16, 2014 at 12:24 AM

I always like the book better than the movie. I have never been big on movies…

OmahaConservative on July 16, 2014 at 12:11 AM

I don’t care for most contemporary adaptations because the writers/directors care more about incorporating the details of the books than they do making good films. The Harry Potter series is a great example of this.

DisneyFan on July 16, 2014 at 12:24 AM

oscarwilde on July 16, 2014 at 12:10 AM

War and Peace. :)

Prince Andrei was always my favorite. He holds a special place in my heart to this day. So much to think about, and experience, riding with Andrei.

thatsafactjack on July 16, 2014 at 12:19 AM

I always identified more with Pierre, the whole socially awkward, and not quiet able to fit in…

oscarwilde on July 16, 2014 at 12:24 AM

Axe, do you remember the Headlines post about the people writing alien abduction and Biggfooot sex novellas…?

PointnClick on July 16, 2014 at 12:14 AM

. . . um, no . . .

I bookmarked the sex with ghosts one, and Parm linked alien abduction sex, and I have that.

. . . I remember a monster porn headline . . .

– Why? Working on something, or just bored? :)

Axe on July 16, 2014 at 12:20 AM

I had to google-fu that up… it was an article in Business Insider about people making thousands per month self-publishing explicit erotic fiction that starred BiggFooot and werewolves and aliens and so forth… you were very funny…

I must only use my powers for good.
I must only use my powers for good.
I must only use my powers for good.
I must only use my powers for good.

PointnClick on July 16, 2014 at 12:25 AM

What is it about half naked savagery you seem to empathize with while the much more advanced, civil, and peace seeking society is only defending itself from such?

anuts on July 16, 2014 at 12:24 AM

In Israel liblikeaslave could join the mil. services.

Hamas would cut his head off.

Schadenfreude on July 16, 2014 at 12:26 AM

oscarwilde on July 16, 2014 at 12:18 AM

lol! I have a friend in the desert who collects books like that. He lives in an old original stone house that’s not very large. He stacks them around his house. His coffee table is several stacks of books with a four foot round, 3/4 inch thick, piece of glass resting on them. His end tables are slightly taller versions with two foot pieces of similar glass resting on them. He has stacks like that all over the house. It’s like something from “Alice In Wonderland”.

I asked him if he could find one particular book if he wanted to read it and was shocked when he produced a diagram and index with each book carefully labeled with a corresponding number relating to the diagram.

He’s pretty careful, too, no free standing tower of books exceeds three to four feet tall and he spaces them well apart… so far. :)

thatsafactjack on July 16, 2014 at 12:26 AM

Anyway, I am exploring writing and self-publishing Taxicab Depressions: The Book…

PointnClick on July 16, 2014 at 12:27 AM

Sorry if I hit a nerve, but with Adelson’s all-out support of amnesty, he obviously doesn’t give a damn about the United States. He’s strongly pro-abortion, too. Not a nice (or highly moral) man.

bw222 on July 15, 2014 at 10:55 PM

They have no country. The mere spot on which they stand does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. – Thomas Jefferson

VorDaj on July 16, 2014 at 12:27 AM

I must only use my powers for good.

PointnClick on July 16, 2014 at 12:25 AM

I do remember that now. :)

lol :)

–for real, though. It’s tempting. I could crank that out and buy a house in three months. :)

Axe on July 16, 2014 at 12:29 AM

Anyway, I am exploring writing and self-publishing Taxicab Depressions: The Book…

PointnClick on July 16, 2014 at 12:27 AM

I’m working on a 37 volume opus

How to overcome verbosity in 1100 easy steps.

Parmenides on July 16, 2014 at 12:30 AM

Poinnclick, for you.

Schadenfreude on July 16, 2014 at 12:30 AM

*A lot of us could.

Axe on July 16, 2014 at 12:30 AM

–for real, though. It’s tempting. I could crank that out and buy a house in three months. :)

Axe on July 16, 2014 at 12:29 AM

Ok, now that’s just creepy… Ok, so I’m a Victorian Prude, but it’s still creepy…

oscarwilde on July 16, 2014 at 12:30 AM

Geez, Schad… I had to Google for 15 minutes or more to find that, and you just pull it outta yer ass like that?

The Force is moderate in this one…

PointnClick on July 16, 2014 at 12:31 AM

Ken must use the power of his one-liter eurovac only for good.

Parmenides on July 16, 2014 at 12:31 AM

Ok, I’m hitting the sack…tomorrow is coming quickly. Day 1/5 approaches. Y’all have an excellent night and tomorrow…

Doc Holliday on July 16, 2014 at 12:31 AM

Anyway, I am exploring writing and self-publishing Taxicab Depressions: The Book…

PointnClick on July 16, 2014 at 12:27 AM

O heck yeah!

I talked to Jack about that once, Sketchbook, the book. I love the idea to begin with.

And you’re voice is pretty well formed.

I would definitely go for that.

Axe on July 16, 2014 at 12:32 AM

PointnClick on July 16, 2014 at 12:27 AM

I’m working on a 37 volume opus

How to overcome verbosity in 1100 easy steps. The Revelations of Parmenides as told to Parmenides by Parmenides…

Parmenides on July 16, 2014 at 12:30 AM

<— Insert evil laughter here…

oscarwilde on July 16, 2014 at 12:32 AM

Anyway, I am exploring writing and self-publishing Taxicab Depressions: The Book…

PointnClick on July 16, 2014 at 12:27 AM

Glorious. Many here know about self-publishing. One of the QotDs just ask for and ye shall get lots of ideas.

Schadenfreude on July 16, 2014 at 12:33 AM

I was talking to my hunnee about it, and if TD doesn’t sell, I could write some chupacabra gangrape stuff, I suppose…

PointnClick on July 16, 2014 at 12:34 AM

Might I recommend a book about the Pistol Shrimp. There are very few on the shelves these days and people yearn crave to learn about them.

Parmenides on July 16, 2014 at 12:34 AM

Iowa folks should be aware of this group trying to bring 1,000 ILLEGALS to Iowa.

DES MOINES | A grassroots group launched an effort Tuesday to relocate at least 1,000 unaccompanied immigrant children to Iowa while political issues surrounding their plight get sorted out, a key organizer said.


Rich Eychaner
, founder and director of the Des Moines-based Eychaner Foundation, a charitable organization, announced a “1,000 Kids for Iowa” crisis initiative to provide safe homes for children from Central American countries who currently are incarcerated along the U.S. southwestern border.

“I’m convinced that Iowans have in their hearts enough goodwill to protect these children and to provide them a safe home,” Eychaner told an afternoon news conference. “We think this is a moral imperative to protect these kids and offer them shelter and so we’re doing so.”

Eychaner established 1000kidsforiowa.com to act as a resource and clearinghouse for churches, families individuals, nonprofit groups, charitable organizations or others who want to house children, donate supplies or financial resources or provide services.

Eychaner said his foundation was calling upon the federal government to transfer 1,000 children from incarceration to Iowa to be cared for and supported by Iowa families.

http://siouxcityjournal.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/group-formed-to-relocate-refugee-children-to-iowa/article_4d391b53-85c0-5cf0-bb9d-1a96a882d47f.html

wren on July 16, 2014 at 12:35 AM

Ok, now that’s just creepy… Ok, so I’m a Victorian Prude, but it’s still creepy…

oscarwilde on July 16, 2014 at 12:30 AM

I can’t imagine me with a house either.

Axe on July 16, 2014 at 12:35 AM

I was talking to my hunnee about it, and if TD doesn’t sell, I could write some chupacabra gangrape stuff, I suppose…

PointnClick on July 16, 2014 at 12:34 AM

How’s your Arabic? Change that to Camel gangrape and you have a guaranteed best seller in Afghanistan and Iran and Iraq and….

oscarwilde on July 16, 2014 at 12:36 AM

oscarwilde on July 16, 2014 at 12:24 AM

I’d never have guessed you would have a place in your heart for Pierre, Mr. Wilde. Although, he was a sympathetic character and I understand his attraction.

I guess I’d have thought you more of the Captain of the Regiment, type, gambling, laughing, and chasing the ladies with fellow officers, pushing the envelope… but definitely never Kuragin. No one could be Anatole Kuragin.

thatsafactjack on July 16, 2014 at 12:36 AM

I almost humor the idea that since leftists being fond of communism as they are gleam with pride and envy at unjustified aggression (viva la revolucion!) as long as it’s a backwards and savage culture attacking successful civilizations.

I mean, it does make sense. They long for the agrarian societies of centuries past and even love more by the method of wholesale slaughter.

anuts on July 16, 2014 at 12:37 AM

PointnClick, how do you think I nail the rats…logical paths for searches.

Schadenfreude on July 16, 2014 at 12:39 AM

wren on July 16, 2014 at 12:35 AM

The gov. of Iowa said “none to my state”. I bet Holder will call him a “racist”.

Schadenfreude on July 16, 2014 at 12:39 AM

oscarwilde on July 16, 2014 at 12:24 AM

I’d never have guessed you would have a place in your heart for Pierre, Mr. Wilde. Although, he was a sympathetic character and I understand his attraction.

thatsafactjack on July 16, 2014 at 12:36 AM

He was someone I could relate to. I was very socially awkward as a teenager. Hell, that’s why I became a Rock Star, because it allowed me to pretend I was someone who wasn’t awkward and shy.

oscarwilde on July 16, 2014 at 12:40 AM

You can never tell a book by its movie.
TXUS on July 16, 2014 at 12:19 AM

I was shocked, SHOCKED I tell you, to find out that “http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0032145/?ref_=nv_sr_4″ covered only the first half of the book o_O

Newtie and the Beauty on July 16, 2014 at 12:41 AM

I yield to your superior skillz, Schad… I thought my keywords were well chosen…

PointnClick on July 16, 2014 at 12:41 AM

ES MOINES | A grassroots group launched an effort Tuesday to relocate at least 1,000 unaccompanied immigrant children to Iowa while political issues surrounding their plight get sorted out, a key organizer said….

Fluke off, traitor of the Land of Laws.

These are not “immigrant children”. These are obama’s victims.

Schadenfreude on July 16, 2014 at 12:42 AM

I mean, it does make sense. They long for the agrarian societies of centuries past and even love more by the method of wholesale slaughter.
anuts on July 16, 2014 at 12:37 AM

The Road to Serfdom…emphasis on “serf”…

Newtie and the Beauty on July 16, 2014 at 12:42 AM

Anyway, I guess ranting is done by me. I’m off to bed. Enjoy the rest of your imbibing evening/morning y’all.

And PS–my attempts at joke telling will become more aggressive in future QOTD threads. Fair warning…

anuts on July 16, 2014 at 12:42 AM

They long for the agrarian societies of centuries past and even love more by the method of wholesale slaughter.

anuts on July 16, 2014 at 12:37 AM

No, they love the fantasy of an agrarian society, the reality is something for other people. Thew second you take away their electricity and running water they become very confused.

oscarwilde on July 16, 2014 at 12:43 AM

I thought my keywords were well chosen…

PointnClick on July 16, 2014 at 12:41 AM

Easier like this

site:hotair.com “keywords” + “keywords”

Schadenfreude on July 16, 2014 at 12:43 AM

. . . wound so tight at the moment it would probably be cathartic.

Axe on July 16, 2014 at 12:43 AM

I was shocked, SHOCKED I tell you, to find out that “Wuthering Heights″ covered only the first half of the book o_O
Newtie and the Beauty on July 16, 2014 at 12:41 AM

FIFM…and howinell did THAT happen? o_O

Newtie and the Beauty on July 16, 2014 at 12:44 AM

Nite anuts. Sleep well and rant and joke away.

Schadenfreude on July 16, 2014 at 12:44 AM

And PS–my attempts at joke telling will become more aggressive in future QOTD threads. Fair warning…
anuts on July 16, 2014 at 12:42 AM

Niters and sleep well, Anuts…and we look forward to your Excursions to Funnyboneville… ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on July 16, 2014 at 12:45 AM

FIFM…and howinell did THAT happen? o_O

Newtie and the Beauty on July 16, 2014 at 12:44 AM

Nargles.

Axe on July 16, 2014 at 12:46 AM

I think TD would make a hilarious movie… but I thought Tucker Max would be way better… but I saw I Hope They Serve Beer In Hell, and I was very disappointed. The blog is indeed better than the film…

PointnClick on July 16, 2014 at 12:46 AM

No, they love the fantasy of an agrarian society, the reality is something for other people. Thew second you take away their electricity and running water they become very confused.
oscarwilde on July 16, 2014 at 12:43 AM

Ah, yes. Fair point of distinction. And back to the analogy/case and point at hand:

Compare/contrast Hamas’s control of Gaza to that of Israeli presence in Gaza.

anuts on July 16, 2014 at 12:47 AM

If you have never read Tucker Max, it is worth the time… I broke a few ribs laughing…

PointnClick on July 16, 2014 at 12:48 AM

oscarwilde on July 16, 2014 at 12:40 AM

That’s a very interesting insight, Mr. Wilde. I’m reminded of some of the actors I know who’ve said similar things about why they took to the acting profession.

It’s an insular experience, walking around inside a role. It must have taken a great deal of reflection to understand a decision you must have made almost instinctively when you were that young, particularly with all the distractions a young man faces.

I admire people who aren’t afraid to do the work to know themselves in the world.

thatsafactjack on July 16, 2014 at 12:49 AM

ILLEGALS heading to Prince William County Virginia

Some of the immigrant children showing up unaccompanied at the U.S. border in recent weeks have been transferred to Prince William County, Board of Supervisors Chairman Corey Stewart confirmed Monday.

Stewart, R-At Large, said that an official from Youth for Tomorrow — a Bristow-based Christian nonprofit that provides housing, education and counseling services to troubled kids — told him more than a week ago the organization had contracted with federal authorities to provide housing and services for some of the young immigrants being transferred from the southern borders.

Stewart said he’s also “heard rumors” that more children might be housed at the National Guard armory near the Prince William fairgrounds.

But Stewart said he has not visited either the fairgrounds or the Youth For Tomorrow campus and cannot verify whether any children are being housed at the armory or how many are currently staying on the Youth For Tomorrow campus.

InsideNoVA.com contacted Youth For Tomorrow as well as the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services for further information, but messages were not immediately returned.

Stewart said federal officials had not informed county officials of plans to relocate some of the children to Prince William County. He said he will discuss the situation at Tuesday’s Board of Supervisors’ meeting and will ask County Executive Melissa Peacor to investigate how many immigrant children are being housed in the county and under what circumstances.

Stewart also released a statement on his Facebook page Monday stating that no county facilities or resources are being used to help.

“The crisis at the border has again reached Prince William County. Without providing the county any notice, the federal government is now placing illegal immigrant children at private and perhaps federal facilities in our county,” the statement said.

During their meeting last week, supervisors voted to issue a Freedom of Information Act request to the federal Department of Homeland Security and the Immigrant and Customs Enforcement division seeking information about the estimated 7,000 undocumented immigrants who have been arrested and found guilty of committing crimes in Prince William County since 2008.

http://www.leesburgtoday.com/news/region/stewart-immigrant-children-being-housed-in-prince-william-county/article_2c0e4393-a6a8-56e1-bb36-094f529fa0ce.html?mode=jqm

wren on July 16, 2014 at 12:49 AM

Nargles.
Axe on July 16, 2014 at 12:46 AM

Glad it was nargles, Axe…I was looking somewhat askance at the Dirigible Plum Wine I had earlier…

Newtie and the Beauty on July 16, 2014 at 12:49 AM

PointnClick on July 16, 2014 at 12:48 AM

I nearly broke a few reading your stories. Love the way you want to die :)

Schadenfreude on July 16, 2014 at 12:49 AM

It’s the displaced SYRIAN civilians, who really don’t have “a right to exist” in Gaza. But Israel has allowed the Gaza strip to be occupied since Old Testament times, so they’re allowing it again, for now.

listens2glenn on July 15, 2014 at 11:17 PM

.
What was considered a reasonable “right of return” at Israel’s founding? Wasn’t it 2000 years?

libfreeordie on July 15, 2014 at 11:52 PM

.
If you’re asking what I think you’re asking, “reasonable right of return” is irrelevant to those of us who recognize God, and what He promised Abraham.

But you don’t recognize God, so there’s no possible way for us to come to an ‘accord’ on this.

But if I altogether misunderstood your question, then correct me.

listens2glenn on July 16, 2014 at 12:49 AM

Jill Ireland is a disgusting anti-human POS. I just cannot stand watching Megyn debate her…

OmahaConservative on July 16, 2014 at 12:50 AM

Axe on July 16, 2014 at 12:43 AM

Breathe. The difficult part is over. :)

thatsafactjack on July 16, 2014 at 12:50 AM

How’s your Arabic? Change that to Camel gangrape and you have a guaranteed best seller in Afghanistan and Iran and Iraq and….

oscarwilde on July 16, 2014 at 12:36 AM

How is your Arabic? And then went on to mention Iran, Afghanistan and camels. Sh!t like that makes me want to pull my hair out.

coolrepublica on July 16, 2014 at 12:52 AM

You can never tell a book by its movie.
TXUS on July 16, 2014 at 12:19 AM

Very well said, TXUS. :)

Good evening, my friend. :) It’s a pleasure to see you.

thatsafactjack on July 16, 2014 at 12:52 AM

Stewart: Immigrant children obama victims being housed in Prince William County

Schadenfreude on July 16, 2014 at 12:52 AM

I nearly broke a few reading your stories. Love the way you want to die :)

Schadenfreude on July 16, 2014 at 12:49 AM

It’s just me? I mean, isn’t that how YOU want to go out?

Alternately, I’d like to bite Kate Upton on the ass, get lockjaw, and be dragged to death… that works…

PointnClick on July 16, 2014 at 12:52 AM

Parmenides on July 16, 2014 at 12:19 AM

Good evening, my friend. :) How is your reasonably long running dynamic system aligning this evening?

thatsafactjack on July 16, 2014 at 12:55 AM

PointnClick on July 16, 2014 at 12:52 AM

All good writers have great fantasies.

Schadenfreude on July 16, 2014 at 12:56 AM

How is your Arabic? And then went on to mention Iran, Afghanistan and camels. Sh!t like that makes me want to pull my hair out.
coolrepublica on July 16, 2014 at 12:52 AM

Why is that?

bluegill on July 16, 2014 at 12:56 AM

oscarwilde on July 16, 2014 at 12:40 AM

That’s a very interesting insight, Mr. Wilde. I’m reminded of some of the actors I know who’ve said similar things about why they took to the acting profession.

It’s an insular experience, walking around inside a role. It must have taken a great deal of reflection to understand a decision you must have made almost instinctively when you were that young, particularly with all the distractions a young man faces.

I admire people who aren’t afraid to do the work to know themselves in the world.

thatsafactjack on July 16, 2014 at 12:49 AM

I don’t know that it required any particular courage, I only lie to myself, when I’m totally unaware that I am lying to myself. It’s actually kind of scary how often we all do that. Once you begin to understand human nature, and accept that, you are human, and not a divine creature exempt from all of humanities foibles, it gets easier to accept exactly what and who you really are.

oscarwilde on July 16, 2014 at 12:56 AM

Parmenides on July 16, 2014 at 12:22 AM

That was lovely. :)

thatsafactjack on July 16, 2014 at 12:57 AM

oscarwilde on July 16, 2014 at 12:36 AM

How is your Arabic? And then went on to mention Iran, Afghanistan and camels. Sh!t like that makes me want to pull my hair out.

coolrepublica on July 16, 2014 at 12:52 AM

Ha ha… I win the interwebs tonight…

oscarwilde on July 16, 2014 at 12:58 AM

Ace – How Long

And on that note, I bid Friends and Lurkers niters and sleep well. Those of you with bar keys, y’all know what to do… ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on July 16, 2014 at 12:58 AM

Paul Ryan: Immigration Bills Dead — This Year…

…but next year we’ll fluke you, royally. Go to Hell.

Schadenfreude on July 16, 2014 at 12:58 AM

Nite NatB

Schadenfreude on July 16, 2014 at 12:59 AM

The gov. of Iowa said “none to my state”. I bet Holder will call him a “racist”.

Schadenfreude on July 16, 2014 at 12:39 AM

Looks like Holder and Co. are ignoring the Governors and just shipping the ILLEGALS to their states without any notice.

A quick read of FreeRepublic.com tonight turned up multiple non-profit groups who are accepting ILLEGALS from the Federal gov’t.

Once the ILLEGALS arrive, it will be much harder to get them to leave.

ALL Governors, Mayors, local governments should be making their positions re: ILLEGALS very clear to the non-profit organizations in their area BEFORE the non-profits sign contracts with the Feds.

Like so much else that this administration does, it may be ILLEGAL, but who is going to stop them?

American Voters need to make their voices heard loud and clear NOW!

wren on July 16, 2014 at 12:59 AM

BUCHANAN WARNS: AMERICA COULD BREAK UP

Couldn’t happen soon enough.

Schadenfreude on July 16, 2014 at 1:00 AM

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