Israel promises ‘great force’ after cease fire fails, civilian killed by Hamas rocket

posted at 4:01 pm on July 15, 2014 by Noah Rothman

It seems that Israel has had just about enough of the endless barrage of rockets directed at them from the Gaza strip and, increasingly, from sites to Israel’s north.

Hamas has spent the week moving the goalposts; shifting from one set of unacceptable demands on Israel and Egypt in order to cease hostilities to even more unacceptable demands. On Tuesday night, Cairo offered a settlement which would result in an immediate cease fire. Terms which Ed Morrissey and Jeff Dunetz noted were favorable to Israel, but which also may have prevented a ground war in Gaza. Israel accepted Egypt’s proposal immediately but Hamas refused. The missile attacks on Israel intensified.

The intensity of the conflict in Israel is demonstrable even from the comfort of cable news studios. In an appearance with NBC’s Andrea Mitchell on Tuesday, a spokesman for Israel showed the scale of the threat cleverly by leaving his phone on during his live discussion with the host. While they were talking, a series of incoming missile alerts come in on his phone.

It was a sobering reminder of the ubiquity and regularity of the threat rocket attacks pose to Israeli civilians, even in spite of the amazing “Iron Dome” missile interceptor system which has spared many Israeli lives.

Many, but not all. On Tuesday, a 30-year-old Israeli man, a volunteer who delivered food to IDF troops manning a Gaza border crossing, was hit and killed by an incoming rocket.

In response to this escalation, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has promised to use “great force” against Hamas to bring about a truce.

The White House has warned Israel against a ground invasion of Gaza, but an escalation of that kind may be forthcoming. Israeli forces are deployed on the border and have been preparing for an incursion into Palestinian territory for some time.


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You’re the one that brought it up. Then you have the temerity to blame us.

Buck Farky on July 15, 2014 at 5:04 PM

Did you just start reading hot air 20 minutes ago or something? I really can’t understand why while reading all the comments about the Israeli conflict since it started, today is the first day you noticed the word nuclear bomb or glassify? that is very odd.

coolrepublica on July 15, 2014 at 5:09 PM

Israel constantly violates the terms of peace accords by allowing or even subsidizing new settlements. If the other side refuses to abide by the territorial limits they signed, isn’t that an act of war?

libfreeordie on July 15, 2014 at 5:02 PM

One of the rules on HotAir should be that commenters abide by common sense. That way libtardordie and coolturd wouldn’t be here.

txdoc on July 15, 2014 at 5:10 PM

Israel could use a little shuttle diplomacy to resolve this crisis. Are there any golf courses or pool halls in Israel?

HiJack on July 15, 2014 at 5:11 PM

You’re arguing that Israel is starting wars by violating the terms of peace accords, then when Hamas responds, it is OK for Isreal to use that as “aggression” to rationalize even more violence against Palestinians. Even though they are the ones who violated the peace accord. But there you have it, the utter insanity of conservative thought on Israel. Combined with a willingness to spend tens of billions of dollars every year arming a foreign nation while claiming we don’t have enough money for unemployment insurance or food stamps at home. Conservatism is just about the worst.

libfreeordie on July 15, 2014 at 5:09 PM

Again, Israel has no peace accord with Hamas.

No new settlements in Gaza since 2005.

Israel doesn’t get tens of billions from the US, more like 3.7 billion, the same as Egypt.

So, are you happy that you are more informed now?

sentinelrules on July 15, 2014 at 5:12 PM

Combined with a willingness to spend tens of billions of dollars every year arming a foreign nation while claiming we don’t have enough money for unemployment insurance or food stamps at home.

libfreeordie on July 15, 2014 at 5:09 PM

But we do have money to help Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt and Hamas in Israel, right? Obama thinks so, and you agree.

Rix on July 15, 2014 at 5:12 PM

Israel constantly violates the terms of peace accords by allowing or even subsidizing new settlements. If the other side refuses to abide by the territorial limits they signed, isn’t that an act of war?

libfreeordie on July 15, 2014 at 5:02 PM

Since the territories we’re talking about were taken over by Israel as a result of the wars that were started by their Arab neighbors, I think it was stupid of them to sign a treaty giving the land back. You start a war and lose land as a result – you lose – tough shiite.

BTW – How many times have the Palestinians signed treaties or cease-fires with Israel and then kept firing rockets at them anyway? Do you have a clue?

dentarthurdent on July 15, 2014 at 5:13 PM

lib free or die

He wants Hamas to be free, and the Jews to die

faraway on July 15, 2014 at 5:16 PM

Israel constantly violates the terms of peace accords by allowing or even subsidizing new settlements. If the other side refuses to abide by the territorial limits they signed, isn’t that an act of war?

libfreeordie on July 15, 2014 at 5:02 PM

New settlements WHERE?
Tell us where these act of war settlements are.

dentarthurdent on July 15, 2014 at 5:16 PM

New settlements WHERE?
Tell us where these act of war settlements are.

dentarthurdent on July 15, 2014 at 5:16 PM

Hold on, give him 10 minutes.

He’s busy scouring the comment section at Huffington Post or Daily Kos.

HumpBot Salvation on July 15, 2014 at 5:17 PM

I don’t know why you guys even attempt conversation with the twin idiots from different mothers. They will say anything to get a response, no matter how stupid. Why waste your energy?

If coolmoron or liblikeaslave were ignored, the rest of us could have an intelligent conversation. Trollcott them.

captnjoe on July 15, 2014 at 5:18 PM

He’ll be looking longer than that. There aren’t any.

Throat Wobbler Mangrove on July 15, 2014 at 5:18 PM

wow! he was really prepared. good show.

jaxisaneurophysicist on July 15, 2014 at 5:18 PM

If coolmoron or liblikeaslave were ignored, the rest of us could have an intelligent conversation. Trollcott them.

captnjoe on July 15, 2014 at 5:18 PM

Dunno, they both claim to be black. Libfree is 100% black.

It’s hard to pin down the root of anti-semitism bigotry among US blacks, let alone any logical reasons.

sentinelrules on July 15, 2014 at 5:20 PM

A civilian is killed by Hamas bottle rockets? Oh no, I say Israel should dump at least 2 of those nuclear bombs that they have on Gaza and teach them a lesson. 3 bombs to make sure they hear it.

coolrepublica on July 15, 2014 at 4:11 PM

….this…is what dirt ^ looks like…on a blog!

JugEarsButtHurt on July 15, 2014 at 5:21 PM

New settlements WHERE?
Tell us where these act of war settlements are.

dentarthurdent on July 15, 2014 at 5:16 PM

“The West Bank,” which somehow includes Gaza.

nobar on July 15, 2014 at 5:22 PM

It’s hard to pin down the root of anti-semitism bigotry among US blacks, let alone any logical reasons.

sentinelrules on July 15, 2014 at 5:20 PM

Ask Rev. Wright, he can tell you all the reasons a darkly pigmented person should hate a Jew. Or, ask Obama, he listened to the good Rev. for 20+ years.

captnjoe on July 15, 2014 at 5:23 PM

They weren’t born to walk on water
They weren’t born to sack and slaughter
But on their soul, they weren’t born
To stoop and knuckle under
They can again learn to steal some thunder
They can again learn to work some wonder
And when the gauntlet’s down,
It’s time to rise and climb the sky
And soon the moon will smoulder
And the winds will drive
Yes, Israel grows older but it’s soul remains alive
All those tremulous stars still glitter, they will survive
Let their hearts now grow colder and as bitter as a falcon in the dive

PercyB on July 15, 2014 at 5:23 PM

libefree are you black?

coolrepublica on July 15, 2014 at 5:23 PM

coolrepublica on July 15, 2014 at 4:11 PM

….this…is what dirt ^ looks like…on a blog!

JugEarsButtHurt on July 15, 2014 at 5:21 PM

I cannot believe the amount of stupidity it took to write that.

It makes the Rolling Stone idiot look like a member of MENSA by comparison.

cozmo on July 15, 2014 at 5:25 PM

The so-called ‘religion of peace’ Islam is the religion at odds with all the others.

Muslims killing Jews in Middle East.

Muslims killing animists and Christians in Sudan and Nigeria

Muslims killing Hindus in India and Pakistan

Muslims killing Buddhists in Thailand

Muslims killing Christians in Philippines.

Seems to be a pattern…

txdoc on July 15, 2014 at 5:26 PM

txdoc on July 15, 2014 at 5:26 PM

Stop. With. Logic.

You need to believe the Pretender in Chief, not your lying eyes.

captnjoe on July 15, 2014 at 5:27 PM

So, Israel spends the last week killing hundreds of Palestinians, most of them civilians, …

libfreeordie on July 15, 2014 at 4:41 PM

You mucking foron. Who the hell do you think elected and is allowing Hamas to use their property as a launching pad for terrorism? All of those Palestinian “civilians” are guilty of being as stupid as you are. Also, they are all given fair warning to vacate the buildings being used as Hamas staging sites and all they do is allow themselves to be used by the Hamas criminals as human shields.

You are just as subhuman as the Hamas criminals. You need to go take your medications, preferably an overdose.

NOMOBO on July 15, 2014 at 5:27 PM

Sub-set of black, actually.

Ben Hur on July 15, 2014 at 5:28 PM

Seems to be a pattern…

txdoc on July 15, 2014 at 5:26 PM

You left out muslims killing muslims all over.

cozmo on July 15, 2014 at 5:31 PM

“The West Bank,” which somehow includes Gaza.

nobar on July 15, 2014 at 5:22 PM

Shhhhh….
No fair giving Stalin’s useful idiots the answer.

dentarthurdent on July 15, 2014 at 5:36 PM

“The West Bank,” which somehow includes Gaza.

nobar on July 15, 2014 at 5:22 PM

It includes Tel Aviv. Why not throw in Gaza?

kcewa on July 15, 2014 at 5:43 PM

it’s amazing seeing these comments how effective the imbeciles in Hamas are at swaying opinion of other imbeciles in the West.

Since Hamas, like other cowardly Muslim terror groups don’t wear uniforms, naturally they are all “civilians”.

Then there is the use of human shields that these cowardly scum hide behind…Life is meaningless to these animals. Unless they can use some bodies as a photo-op to support their cause and sway opinion among the imbeciles and useful idiots of the world.

The fact is that Hamas is most responsible for those “civilian” deaths. Guess who is next in line for sharing the blame? That’s right, the useful idiots of the West – represented by the trolls appearing in this thread.

Yes, wrap your tiny, little minds around that fact – you have done more to kill those innocent civilians than the IDF. I know your limited brain power will find it hard to digest that.

reaganaut on July 15, 2014 at 5:47 PM

lib free sanctions baby killing…what are a few Jews to him….God is watching you libfree, don’t go out in any rain storms.

crosshugger on July 15, 2014 at 5:54 PM

Violations of international law = perfectly good reason to invade Iraq. But not so much a rationale for Hamas to use military force against Israel.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/01/world/middleeast/un-panel-says-israeli-settlement-policy-violates-law.html?_r=0

libfreeordie on July 15, 2014 at 6:07 PM

But not so much a rationale for Hamas to use military force against Israel.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/01/world/middleeast/un-panel-says-israeli-settlement-policy-violates-law.html?_r=0

libfreeordie on July 15, 2014 at 6:07 PM

Again, no settlements in Gaza since 2005.

sentinelrules on July 15, 2014 at 6:11 PM

“The West Bank,” which somehow includes Gaza.

nobar on July 15, 2014 at 5:22 PM

Fascistordie is one of those who probably considers Gaza as ‘occupied territory’ even though it was returned to the Arabs in 2005 – and promptly trashed.

And those West Bank settlements make it so hard to make Judea and Sumaria Judenrein….

Athos on July 15, 2014 at 6:11 PM

Violations of international law = perfectly good reason to invade Iraq. But not so much a rationale for Hamas to use military force against Israel.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/01/world/middleeast/un-panel-says-israeli-settlement-policy-violates-law.html?_r=0

libfreeordie on July 15, 2014 at 6:07 PM

Good point.
So in that case, it makes perfect sense for Israel to respond with overwhelming military force against Hamas and any other country or terrorist organization that makes any kind of military or terrorist attack on Israel.

dentarthurdent on July 15, 2014 at 6:12 PM

“The West Bank,” which somehow includes Gaza.

nobar on July 15, 2014 at 5:22 PM

libfreeordie on July 15, 2014 at 6:07 PM

It feels great to be vindicated.

nobar on July 15, 2014 at 6:12 PM

But like his idol, Bill Ayers, fascistordie seeks a world that is not only Judenrein, but Capitalistrein, and Conservativerein.

Athos on July 15, 2014 at 6:13 PM

L
O
L

Ok, give him another 10 minutes.

HumpBot Salvation on July 15, 2014 at 6:15 PM

Violations of international law = perfectly good reason to invade Iraq. But not so much a rationale for Hamas to use military force against Israel.
libfreeordie on July 15, 2014 at 6:07 PM

BTW – in accordance with international law, what distinguishes Hamas terrorists as a valid and recognizable “military force”, separate from the civilian population around them?

Answer that (honestly) and perhaps you’ll get a clue as to how/why the Palestinians claim so many “civilians” killed in IDF attacks.

dentarthurdent on July 15, 2014 at 6:17 PM

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/01/world/middleeast/un-panel-says-israeli-settlement-policy-violates-law.html?_r=0

libfreeordie on July 15, 2014 at 6:07 PM

Did you even read the article you linked?
A panel chaired by a French communist, with members from China, Cuba, and Saudi Arabia – voted to say that Israel violated a law.
I’m guessing you’re not as shocked, shocked I say, as I am….

dentarthurdent on July 15, 2014 at 6:24 PM

Mucking forons, and Jew haters, the bad ones are in bed with civilians, literally, in hospitals too.

You’re such easy fodder.

Schadenfreude on July 15, 2014 at 6:26 PM

libfreeordie needs to learn the difference between the West Bank (which is ruled by the PA) and Gaza (which is led by Hamas).

Was libfreeordie living under a rock when Israel demolished all the settlements in Gaza and built the wall?

libfreeordie, Israel doesn’t have any settlements in Gaza at all. The West Bank isn’t under Hamas’ purview, so what the heck are you talking about?

corkie on July 15, 2014 at 6:26 PM

A panel chaired by a French communist, with members from China, Cuba, and Saudi Arabia – voted to say that Israel violated a law.
I’m guessing you’re not as shocked, shocked I say, as I am….

dentarthurdent on July 15, 2014 at 6:24 PM

Of course their viewpoints are legitimate – they are as ‘unbiased’ as fascistordie.

Athos on July 15, 2014 at 6:26 PM

corkie on July 15, 2014 at 6:26 PM

Libtardfree is just a “useful idiot” for fascists of all types.

dentarthurdent on July 15, 2014 at 6:33 PM

Isn’t it against international law for combatants to hide behind civilians? You know, an actual war crime?

Or does that not apply here because jeeeewwwssssss!!!!!

HumpBot Salvation on July 15, 2014 at 6:35 PM

Of course their viewpoints are legitimate – they are as ‘unbiased’ as fascistordie.

Athos on July 15, 2014 at 6:26 PM

Uhhhhhhh, ya – Saudi Arabia, Cuba, and China – “unbiased” members of the UN Human Rights Council…..

dentarthurdent on July 15, 2014 at 6:35 PM

dentarthurdent on July 15, 2014 at 6:33 PM

Depends on what your definition of useful is.

HumpBot Salvation on July 15, 2014 at 6:35 PM

Isn’t it against international law for combatants to hide behind civilians? You know, an actual war crime?

Or does that not apply here because jeeeewwwssssss!!!!!

HumpBot Salvation on July 15, 2014 at 6:35 PM

Well, I hate to give away the answer to my 6:17 question to the Hamas Useful Idiots Squad, but according to international law a legal military force must also wear a distinguishing uniform of some kind specifically so that they can be identified as valid combatants separate from any civilian population in the area.

dentarthurdent on July 15, 2014 at 6:40 PM

Depends on what your definition of useful is.

HumpBot Salvation on July 15, 2014 at 6:35 PM

As used by Stalin.

dentarthurdent on July 15, 2014 at 6:41 PM

Do you realize what you’re saying. You’re arguing that Israel is starting wars by violating the terms of peace accords, then when Hamas responds, it is OK for Isreal to use that as “aggression” to rationalize even more violence against Palestinians. Even though they are the ones who violated the peace accord. But there you have it, the utter insanity of conservative thought on Israel. Combined with a willingness to spend tens of billions of dollars every year arming a foreign nation while claiming we don’t have enough money for unemployment insurance or food stamps at home. Conservatism is just about the worst.

libfreeordie on July 15, 2014 at 5:09 PM

You are an idiot.

tanked59 on July 15, 2014 at 6:42 PM

Was libfreeordie living under a rock when Israel demolished all the settlements in Gaza and built the wall?

libfreeordie, Israel doesn’t have any settlements in Gaza at all. The West Bank isn’t under Hamas’ purview, so what the heck are you talking about?

corkie on July 15, 2014 at 6:26 PM

I thought it was the goat herders that did all the demolishing after the Israelis pulled out.

..and didn’t they launch a few rockets on the same day???

BigWyo on July 15, 2014 at 7:00 PM

You are an idiot.

tanked59 on July 15, 2014 at 6:42 PM

That report probably cost a Go-Zillion dollars though….

No one said there would be math….

BigWyo on July 15, 2014 at 7:02 PM

I thought it was the goat herders that did all the demolishing after the Israelis pulled out.

BigWyo on July 15, 2014 at 7:00 PM

No, Israel destroyed the settlements. It was a big deal because the settlers that had their homes destroyed fought the action and held out as long as they could.

corkie on July 15, 2014 at 7:32 PM

Islam a “RELIGION” … born of, propogated by, and maintained with the sword.

Missilengr on July 15, 2014 at 7:47 PM

It was a sobering reminder of the ubiquity and regularity of the threat rocket attacks pose to Israeli civilians

The good news is that no other civilians in the area are under any threat, nosiree Bob.

corona79 on July 15, 2014 at 7:48 PM

the Hamas of politics. All talk and zero strategy skills or competence.

coolrepublica on July 15, 2014 at 7:52 PM

corkie on July 15, 2014 at 7:57 PM

Israel constantly violates the terms of peace accords by allowing or even subsidizing new settlements. If the other side refuses to abide by the territorial limits they signed, isn’t that an act of war?

libfreeordie on July 15, 2014 at 5:02 PM

Says the guy who supports the illegal alien invasion. How adorable.

njrob on July 15, 2014 at 7:58 PM

I am so sick of the lies I read from Libfreeordie. Seriously, how do lying, misanthropic people like that live with themselves? Pathetic.

Fathom on July 15, 2014 at 8:05 PM

Says the guy who supports the illegal alien invasion. How adorable.

njrob on July 15, 2014 at 7:58 PM

Well, to be fair…there are a whole lotta swarthy lads looking to make a living…

BigWyo on July 15, 2014 at 8:05 PM

the Hamas of politics. All talk and zero strategy skills or competence.

coolrepublica on July 15, 2014 at 7:52 PM

Damn, girlfriend, there you go nailing Obama, again.

Resist We Much on July 15, 2014 at 8:12 PM

libefree are you black?

coolrepublica on July 15, 2014 at 5:23 PM

He sure is. 5 feet tall.. Gay, too. Can’t play basketball, either… = 3 time loser…

bimmcorp on July 15, 2014 at 8:37 PM

coolrepublica on July 15, 2014 at 7:52 PM

You’re retarded.

CW on July 15, 2014 at 8:45 PM

Consider: A nation with liberal policies, such as gay rights and abortion, surrounded by a bunch of howling, primitive, bloodthirsty mobs motivated by religious bias to slaughter the citizens of said nation.

If this were any other nation in the world, Libfree and company would be tripping all over themselves to defend it. Instead, they celebrate the deaths of Jews.

Lib free knows that the Palestinians are scum; yet defends them anyway. People who would kill him and smile.

He longs for them to win, because why? Why do liberals love seeing dead Jews so much?

As the good perfessor says about conservatives, it must be racism. Deep, inbred, seated hatred of Jews. Liberals are infested with it.

All you have to do is read this thread and ask, “Self, what part of the National Socialist Party platform would Lib Free object to?”

The answer is clear: None. He even advocates for lebenstraum for racial groups: Hispanics, who he wants to displace Americans.

Vanceone on July 15, 2014 at 9:01 PM

The IDF will go in. Now that there’s a death they will want to go in double than before, and believe me they wanted to roar in before.

BUT Bibi is no dummy. He will use Hamas’ weakened position in the world, especially the Arab world, to get international players involved to demilitarize hamas and keep it demilitarized maybe even without IDF going in, now that it seems almost inevitable that they would.

This is kind of a poker game and he has a full house, and he’s the best poker player in town.

AlexB on July 15, 2014 at 9:12 PM

MSNBC
gaza clip
hopefully payback’s a b!tch

Rea1ityCheck on July 15, 2014 at 9:14 PM

…then when Hamas responds, it is OK for Isreal to use that as “aggression” to rationalize even more violence against Palestinians…

libfreeordie on July 15, 2014 at 5:09 PM

Have you watched this timeline of the recent “response”? And you still need scare quotes to talk about Hamas aggression?

Quisp on July 15, 2014 at 9:17 PM

Hamas are a bunch of incompetents. Every leadership the Palestinians have been had were incompetents . . .

coolrepublica on July 15, 2014 at 8:01 PM

corkie on July 15, 2014 at 10:15 PM

libefree are you black?

coolrepublica on July 15, 2014 at 5:23 PM

He sure is. 5 feet tall.. Gay, too. Can’t play basketball, either… = 3 time loser…

bimmcorp on July 15, 2014 at 8:37 PM

rofl. But does he have rhythm, can he dance?

arnold ziffel on July 15, 2014 at 10:31 PM

Do to Gaza what the Russians did to Grozny. The palestinians elected a terrorist group, hamas, as their representative govt in Gaza. It’s effectively a terror state. Unless Israel wants to keep revisiting this episode year after year they need level Gaze, send the arab palestinians home to an arab country. Gaza is an open sore, cauterize it once and for all.

Purple Velvet Pimp on July 15, 2014 at 11:55 PM

One is sufficient. Two or three is just showing off.

orangemtl on July 15, 2014 at 4:12 PM

If they turn it to rubble with conventional weapons, they can bulldoze, rototill and create some nice gardens and living space for more Israelis.

When the people actively volunteer to stand around weapons as human shields, they are combatants and valid targets. So are those enabling the combatants. When an entire people is dedicated to your destruction and demonstrates they are seriously trying to do you harm you have two choices.

dogsoldier on July 16, 2014 at 7:53 AM

Let’s send them all the bottom of the sea where they belong.

coolrepublica on July 15, 2014 at 4:22 PM

The cold-blooded ruthlessness of the modern liberal on display for all the world to see…

dominigan on July 16, 2014 at 9:58 AM

If they turn it to rubble with conventional weapons, they can bulldoze, rototill and create some nice gardens and living space for more Israelis.

dogsoldier on July 16, 2014 at 7:53 AM

I would suggest…

1) Warn civilians to evacuate the area immediately, give them a few days to comply.
2) Level the area with bombs.
3) Bulldoze and clear.
4) Turn it into a buffer kill-zone to protect your citizens.

dominigan on July 16, 2014 at 10:02 AM

If coolmoron or liblikeaslave were ignored, the rest of us could have an intelligent conversation. Trollcott them.

captnjoe on July 15, 2014 at 5:18 PM

But who would make us laugh then??

Why do we feed trolls here? Because if we try to interact with them on their sites, we are banned. At least we can mock them to our heart’s content here.

Lord Whorfin on July 16, 2014 at 10:07 AM

Time for Israel to take back Gaza. Clearly, the Palis are incapbable of doing anything worthwhile with it, using it merely as a base of attacks on Israel and a platform for arranged photo ops of civilians that are used as human shields for their missile launchers.

DimsdalePiranha on July 16, 2014 at 11:28 AM

I am so sick of the lies I read from Libfreeordie. Seriously, how do lying, misanthropic people like that live with themselves? Pathetic.

Fathom on July 15, 2014 at 8:05 PM

It helps to be delusional.

zoyclem on July 16, 2014 at 12:40 PM

“great force” in action
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/1.605568

corona79 on July 16, 2014 at 4:57 PM

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