Beck: Using these kids at the border for political purposes is wrong, shameful, un-American, and un-Christian

posted at 2:41 pm on July 15, 2014 by Allahpundit

Skip to 4:15 for the key bit. “Let’s be decent and take care of the kids while they’re here,” he finally says in exasperation. One point I haven’t seen addressed in the hubbub over his charity effort is whether he’s planning the upcoming shipment of supplies as a one-time show of goodwill or as an ongoing mission of mercy to the border, with shipments at regular intervals. If it’s the latter, I hope he knows what he’s getting into. Anecdotal reports suggest there are a lot of kids who’ll soon be needing teddy bears and soccer balls. Quote one comes from Ruben Navarrette:

My sources tell me that it is well-known that in the Rio Grande Valley, there are tens or even hundreds of thousands of people from Central America — mostly women and children — in northern Mexico right now, waiting for their chance to cross into the United States.

We should stop looking for an endpoint. This story has no end in sight.

As a journalist, every week, I start with a dozen new angles to explore. By the beginning of next week, there will be a dozen more. Make no mistake. We will be dealing with this crisis not for weeks or months but probably for years. People will keep coming.

Quote two comes from Fox News reporter Jana Winter, who accompanied Louie Gohmert recently on a trip to the border:

“You’re going to be out here a long time,” Fernando, an El Salvadoran child, told FoxNews.com shortly after surrendering to Border Patrol authorities after midnight Saturday. “There are thousands of us.”

FoxNews.com witnessed the seemingly endless parade of illegal immigrants as they turned themselves in to agents and climbed into the vans. One mother teared up when telling FoxNews.com of her family’s perilous journey from Honduras. Some said the trip took as little as two days, others said they’d been traveling for months. In groups of 12 or more, they were then taken to the bus set up in a desolate area at the intersection of unlit dirt roads in Rincon Village along the river for initial processing under the full Texas summer moon.

“They just keep on coming,” one Border Patrol source said.

They’re coming, whether or not there are any surplus pairs of 1791 jeans waiting for them. And the reason they’ll keep coming, as Mickey Kaus says, is simple: It’s because the left has no intention of enforcing the border, even though they’ve spent the past 18 months promising that they’ll get serious about security just as soon as Republicans agree to get serious about legalization. That’s the lie at the heart of comprehensive immigration reform, in Kaus’s phrasing. Given a stark opportunity with this border crisis to show that they really will keep illegals out going forward in exchange for amnesty for those who are already here, immigration activists instead scared Obama away from the obvious legislative patch, allowing summary deportations for children from noncontiguous countries like those in Central America. This should be the end of comprehensive immigration reform; it’s a fraud and now everyone knows it, which leaves “security first” as the only option for the GOP — in theory. In practice, though, comprehensive reform will never die. Kaus is right (again) that, whether or not it’s true that Latino voters will forever support amnesty in the name of racial solidarity, our political class obviously believes that it’s true. And since the Latino demographic will only grow, that means the “solution” to this problem will always involve an amnesty component. In a way, it’s like impeachment: You’d need to see wide public opinion turn so sour on illegal immigration, notwithstanding Latino support for it, that even Democrats would start to feel pressure to pander to border hawks with a security-only bill rather than to Latinos with comprehensive reform. We’re not even close to being there yet. But after another 300,000 or 500,000 illegals from Central America have come across, who knows?


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Lol, so Beck can’t supplement the donations, but its ok if he just donates all the money himself??

blockchords on July 15, 2014 at 5:31 PM

My point of contention is that he’s trolling for donations at all and then capitalizing on the media attention from it while lending DemoCommies faux moral credibility with their destructive policies.

Or, as I suspect, it isn’t ok if Beck donated all the money himself either? In which case you don’t really have a point that you are arguing huh??

Seems like you begrudge a bunch of people that made the donations.

WTF are you talking about nimrod? I don’t give a rats-ass if Beck donated his own money in private. But if he did so and chose to make it public- then yes, I would lambast him for exploiting the destructive politics of the issue. And yes, private individuals would also be contributing to these destructive policies.

But tell me – why isn’t the Federal Govt taking responsibility for this crisis of their own making?

Oh and – when will you personally be housing some of these poor poor kids™?

And if you’re not willing to do that – then shut yer hypocritical piehole.

Augustinian on July 15, 2014 at 5:45 PM

As long as they’re in this country – they’re illegal. But if he houses them – then he can suffer the repercussions of disease etc. And he can feed them and entertain them and weep over them on his own damn time in private.

Bro, this is an ideal standard that you’ve created – not a practical standard. The kids should be housed in detention centers until they are shipped back, ASAP (which of course, isn’t actually going to happen).

But what you’re essentially admitting is that he is only doing this to exploit the awareness of the issue. And he’s doing it with other people’s “charity”.

Glenn has said that in providing all these soccer balls and food, he will be able to dig deeper in to the facts of what is going on w/ these illegal so-called ‘migrants’. There’s a phase 2 coming up here.

Yeah, that reeks of GLENN IS JUST DOING IT FOR THE MEDIA!!, but we’ll see what comes of this. In any case, Glenn is inserting his organization in the situation in a very big way and it could turn out differently than we all expect.

blockchords on July 15, 2014 at 5:37 PM

I’m calling bullsh!t on this. His “donations” are most likely fundraising of other people’s money.

The guy is a public figure and get’s all his money from other people. Also, donations are made to his 501c3 Mercury One. Glenn Beck doesn’t have any of that money to donate.

Beck is a media whore. He could be doing all of this on his own time with his own money and in complete anonymity.

Augustinian on July 15, 2014 at 5:36 PM

NO. HE. COULDN’T!!! BECK ONLY HAS ANY MONEY B/C HE IS A PUBLIC FIGURE!! AND BECK DOES HALF A DOZEN SIMILARLY LARGE FUNDRAISERS EVERY YEAR!!

blockchords on July 15, 2014 at 5:45 PM

Here’s the solution to both the surge and Glenn Beck.

There’s a non-profit that’s working to keep kids *in* Central America:

http://bit.ly/helpingborderkids

Ask leading Glenn Beck supporters (like @DLoesch) and leading liberals (like @KatrinaNation, @CapehartJ, @DLind, @MattYglesias and @EzraKlein of Vox, @ChrisLHayes, etc. etc.) why they aren’t supporting things like that instead. No, really: get on to Twitter now and ask them why they aren’t supporting plans like that. If enough people ask they might feel compelled to answer.

24AheadDotCom on July 15, 2014 at 5:46 PM

jake-the-goose on July 15, 2014 at 3:59 PM

aww honey, I’m nobody but an opinion :) Nothing special! But thank you!

Bee on July 15, 2014 at 5:47 PM

He has significantly donated to causes far more than once already. My reference to 45 times was 45 different issues, so if you want him to do it once, then there ya go!!

blockchords on July 15, 2014 at 5:31 PM

How many of those causes fostered illegal actions?

Augustinian on July 15, 2014 at 5:49 PM

Dehumanizing people…….amazing.

terryannonline on July 15, 2014 at 5:22 PM

You are none too bright, so I will type this slowly so you can keep up.

de·hu·man·ize
verb \(ˌ)dē-ˈhyü-mə-ˌnīz, (ˌ)dē-ˈyü-\

: to treat (someone) as though he or she is not a human being
Full Definition of DEHUMANIZE
transitive verb
: to deprive of human qualities, personality, or spirit

The fact that diseases transmit from human to human and that these particular humans are known to be carrying these diseases does not deprive them of humanity.

The fact that humans war against one another and that these particular humans are coming with known people who intend to do us harm does not deprive them of humanity.

astonerii on July 15, 2014 at 5:49 PM

NO. HE. COULDN’T!!! BECK ONLY HAS ANY MONEY B/C HE IS A PUBLIC FIGURE!! AND BECK DOES HALF A DOZEN SIMILARLY LARGE FUNDRAISERS EVERY YEAR!!

blockchords on July 15, 2014 at 5:45 PM

How many of those fund-raisers foster illegal policies?

Augustinian on July 15, 2014 at 5:50 PM

I don’t give a rats-ass if Beck donated his own money in private.

What?? So someone can donate to whatever immoral cause in private, and you won’t morally condemn them?? Or if not whatever cause, then this cause??

And you are playing the moral high ground??

But tell me – why isn’t the Federal Govt taking responsibility for this crisis of their own making?

Bro, Cloward-Piven, Class-War, etc… I have all the typical right wing views on that.

Oh and – when will you personally be housing some of these poor poor kids™?

Augustinian on July 15, 2014 at 5:45 PM

This is an ideal standard you’ve set up. They should be sent back, & held in detention facilities until then. Even that is an ideal standard.

You’re standard only even begins to become relevant once someone advocates to extend the period of time these people should be in the country, which I certainly wouldn’t do, and which I don’t believe Beck has done.

blockchords on July 15, 2014 at 5:52 PM

How many of those fund-raisers foster illegal policies?

Augustinian on July 15, 2014 at 5:50 PM

What is the standard for fostering an illegal policy? I’m unfamiliar w/ what aspect of Beck’s program advocates for prolonging the stay of these people.

You live in a world of ideals. You know, conservatives could take some pages from Alinsky. I think we all know that.

blockchords on July 15, 2014 at 5:54 PM

You all are basically making Beck’s point. You all are so blinded by politics you can’t see the children in need. So sad.

terryannonline on July 15, 2014 at 4:49 PM

Then why aren’t you down on the border instead of carping on the internet all day.

RickB on July 15, 2014 at 5:54 PM

What?? So someone can donate to whatever immoral cause in private, and you won’t morally condemn them?? Or if not whatever cause, then this cause??

And you are playing the moral high ground??

blockchords on July 15, 2014 at 5:52 PM

I’ll condemn them when it is a cause that fosters illegal policies.

Is that clear enough for you dipsh!t?

And I’ll ask this again:

How many of Beck’s fund-raisers fostered illegal policies?

Augustinian on July 15, 2014 at 5:56 PM

But remember….we just need to elect more republicans.

xblade on July 15, 2014 at 3:41 PM

Nothing screams 99%’er like someone who voted for a Goldman Sachs / J.P. Morgan candidate…. TWICE.

RobertInAustin on July 15, 2014 at 5:58 PM

I don’t care how frustrated people are……you don’t poor little kids.

terryannonline on July 15, 2014 at 4:44 PM

That sentimentality has already been used as a military tactic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_March

The Green March was a strategic mass demonstration in November 1975, coordinated by the Moroccan government, to force Spain to hand over the disputed, autonomous semi-metropolitan Spanish Province of Sahara to Morocco. The demonstration of some 350,000 Moroccans advanced…

http://www.marrakeshexpresstravel.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Green-March-Morocco-1975.jpg

Coming to a border near you.

If Mexico organized something similar what would the US government do? Open fire? Let them march in?

sharrukin on July 15, 2014 at 5:59 PM

I’ll condemn them when it is a cause that fosters illegal policies.

Oh, but you said Beck could do it in private??

I’ll condemn people that advocate immoral policies.

And I’ll ask this again:

How many of Beck’s fund-raisers fostered illegal policies?

Augustinian on July 15, 2014 at 5:56 PM

Heh. And I’ll answer it again:

What is the standard for fostering an illegal policy? I’m unfamiliar w/ what aspect of Beck’s program advocates for prolonging the stay of these people.

blockchords on July 15, 2014 at 5:54 PM

blockchords on July 15, 2014 at 5:59 PM

What is the standard for fostering an illegal policy? I’m unfamiliar w/ what aspect of Beck’s program advocates for prolonging the stay of these people.

You live in a world of ideals. You know, conservatives could take some pages from Alinsky. I think we all know that.

blockchords on July 15, 2014 at 5:54 PM

What is the legal standard of an illegal alien?

Or is there any such thing in your book?

Would these people be here if this Admin didn’t advertise the illegal invasion of this nation? No.

Will this illegal invasion continue if citizens continue to enable it with funds? Yes.

Tell me- should we even have borders anymore?

Augustinian on July 15, 2014 at 6:00 PM

Oh, but you said Beck could do it in private??

blockchords on July 15, 2014 at 5:59 PM

Because if it is private I wouldn’t know about it to condemn it… dipsh!t.

I’ll condemn people that advocate immoral policies.

Oh really? Then why are you even defending Beck on this issue dipsh!t?

hat is the standard for fostering an illegal policy? I’m unfamiliar w/ what aspect of Beck’s program advocates for prolonging the stay of these people.

blockchords on July 15, 2014 at 5:54 PM

Uhm does the term “illegal alien” mean anything to you? Dipsh!t?

Augustinian on July 15, 2014 at 6:04 PM

What is the standard for fostering an illegal policy? I’m unfamiliar w/ what aspect of Beck’s program advocates for prolonging the stay of these people.

blockchords on July 15, 2014 at 5:54 PM

His actions do contribute to the precedent that we are morally, ethically, and legally responsible for the welfare of these illegal aliens.

Not necessarily what he intends to do, I’m sure, but you can count on it that the political left will use it as base on which to support an argument of defining them as refugees and granting them asylum.

lineholder on July 15, 2014 at 6:08 PM

I’m unfamiliar w/ what aspect of Beck’s program advocates for prolonging the stay of these people.

blockchords on July 15, 2014 at 5:54 PM

Oh really?

Because giving food shelter and aid certainly wouldn’t prolong and further encourage the continued flood of invaders would it?

Seriously. Are you really this f*cking retarded?

Or are you just the usual libtard moby concern troll?

Oh wait- it’s both isn’t it.

Of course it is.

Augustinian on July 15, 2014 at 6:08 PM

You all are basically making Beck’s point. You all are so blinded by politics you can’t see the children in need. So sad.

terryannonline on July 15, 2014 at 4:49 PM

Dummy, who did that?

Schadenfreude on July 15, 2014 at 6:08 PM

I don’t care how frustrated people are……you don’t poor little kids.

terryannonline on July 15, 2014 at 4:44 PM

You’re frustrated and very dumb.

Schadenfreude on July 15, 2014 at 6:10 PM

Because if it is private I wouldn’t know about it to condemn it… dipsh!t.

That’s not the implied meaning of this…

I don’t give a rats-ass if Beck donated his own money in private.

Augustinian on July 15, 2014 at 5:45 PM

You would have said couldn’t, not don’t. But if you are clarifying yourself now, that is fine.

Uhm does the term “illegal alien” mean anything to you? Dipsh!t?

Augustinian on July 15, 2014 at 6:04 PM

If you gave me credit for what I’ve written, you’d have noticed that I want them to be deported ASAP (which isn’t going to happen). &, I’ve referred to them as illegal several times.

It seems to me as though the standard for fostering an illegal policy is if the illegal aspects of the policy are increased as a result of the actions. I’m not sure that bringing these people food and soccer balls either advocates for prolonging their stay, or for more people to come.

Will this illegal invasion continue if citizens continue to enable it with funds? Yes.

Augustinian on July 15, 2014 at 6:00 PM

It would continue exactly the same even if Beck didn’t bring them food and soccer balls. That’s why I’m not sure he is fostering an illegal policy

blockchords on July 15, 2014 at 6:12 PM

obama and terryannonline abuse little children.

They are for the separation of children from their parents.

They are for children dropping off La Bestia.

They are for children being raped by the cartel lords.

They are for handing kids over to sex pimps.

They are for the trade of children.

They encourage more of it. Just read this thread.

Schadenfreude on July 15, 2014 at 6:12 PM

The irony of Glenn Beck admonishing people not to use these kids is really lost on some of you people, isn’t it?

gryphon202 on July 15, 2014 at 6:14 PM

The stupid is thick tonight.

Akzed on July 15, 2014 at 6:44 PM

Beck preparing to talk about something he feels strongly about…

“Instant sadness.”

Akzed on July 15, 2014 at 6:46 PM

A kind and compassionate Nation would put these children on a plane to take them right back home.

That is an incredibly low bar to clear.

We are not clearing it.

What is being done is pure evil.

ajacksonian on July 15, 2014 at 6:57 PM

They shouldn’t be here 30 minutes!No need for giving them anything but a quick trip back across the border.Let Mexico take care of them.And Beck should have some compassion for the American children who are adversely impacted by the millions of illegals flooding our educational system and draining our safety net resources.Instead we have to listen to another Beck sermon judging those of us who actually believe in the sovereignty of this once great nation.So sick of these progressive aiding and abetting pseudo-conservative frauds.And Ted Cruz should spend more time fighting for Tea Party insurgents and taking on the likes of McCain and his lover Miss Lindsey than helping Glen Beck assuage his misplaced guilt.To think I once supported Cruz for president in 2016.Even if nominated I will not show up for this hack.

redware on July 15, 2014 at 7:10 PM

gryphon202 on July 15, 2014 at 6:14 PM

Reads like a double negative. What’s your point? (It might be the vodka/apologies)

Bee on July 15, 2014 at 7:23 PM

Beck is a quivering cry phucking baby. He makes Boner look like a man’s man. Put his and Boner’s tears together and we can fill up the Rio.

msupertas on July 15, 2014 at 7:36 PM

Beck already dug his hole. No need to listen to his yapping anymore.

The ‘kids’ are not starving. And religious charities involved in border busting are not starving either. Certain ones have been getting beaucoup gov bucks for a long time. These will be the groups encouraging and facilitating border busting

They are now involved in helping to relocate and hide the ‘kids’

How’s these kids?

Beck jumped the shark. He is full of it. Skunk

entagor on July 15, 2014 at 8:04 PM

No, lets not be “decent”. Go to hell Beck.

Send the little cretins back. They are only here to act as reverse anchors for their piece of crap garbage stinking future drug and welfare addicted parents. We don’t need more of them, we need less, starting with the scum that have crossed since February.

“How can you shoot little kids man?”
“Easy, you don’t lead them as much”
-Full Metal Jacket

Diluculo on July 15, 2014 at 8:28 PM

Rich boy and teary media drama queen Beck reminds me a little of Tom Steyer, the hilarious lying liar environmental hypocrite. Beck got rich as the uber-conservative, and now likes to use his money and notoriety as the Magic Christian.

Better give it all away, homes. Christ gave bad odds on heaven for billionaires.

Jaibones on July 15, 2014 at 8:29 PM

. . . but it’s ok if Beck does it.

Nat George on July 15, 2014 at 8:49 PM

. . . but it’s ok if Beck does it.

Nat George on July 15, 2014 at 8:49 PM

But of course!

Only Glenn knows what best for these “kids,” being that he sits at God’s right hand.

non-nonpartisan on July 15, 2014 at 9:55 PM

Reads like a double negative. What’s your point? (It might be the vodka/apologies)

Bee on July 15, 2014 at 7:23 PM

My point is that Beck is using these kids, Bee.

gryphon202 on July 15, 2014 at 10:18 PM

GB looks like LGBT

JStew on July 15, 2014 at 10:46 PM

Glenn Beck is good at doing only one thing: selling Glenn Beck.

Galtian on July 15, 2014 at 10:55 PM

This is to everyone, not just Augustinian :
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Would these people be here if this Admin didn’t advertise the illegal invasion of this nation? No.

Augustinian on July 15, 2014 at 6:00 PM

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That’s where we agree.
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Will this illegal invasion continue if citizens continue to enable it with funds? Yes.

Augustinian on July 15, 2014 at 6:00 PM

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I reject the pretense of that question, which is that Glenn (or anybody else) is ENABLING or prolonging this invasion, by providing private humanitarian aid to these “used” and “abused” kids.
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And apparently, that’s where we’re going to remain divided.
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All of the pre-adolescent kids ARE VICTIMS of Barack Obama, and the stupidity of their parents/guardians.

Are they illegal aliens ? Hang, yeah !
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But I reject the premise that the pre-adolescent, illegal invaders understand this.

I reject the premise that the pre-adolescent illegal invaders should be shown no mercy.

I reject the premise that showing mercy (in the form of private humanitarian aid) to these pre-adolescent illegal invaders is going to “enable” or prolong the invasion.
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This invasion stops when the Commander In Chief tells the people south of the border, that it must stop.

The Commander In Chief will only do that when enough of the American people scare the (expletive) out of him, with public outcry against him … not against the pre-adolescent illegal invaders.

listens2glenn on July 16, 2014 at 12:16 AM

listens2glenn on July 16, 2014 at 12:16 AM

most are NOT little kids. They ARE criminals. They ARE invaders.
They deserve no mercy-they only deserve DEPORTATION. Now.

annoyinglittletwerp on July 16, 2014 at 12:26 AM

I reject the pretense of that question, which is that Glenn (or anybody else) is ENABLING or prolonging this invasion, by providing private humanitarian aid to these “used” and “abused” kids.

listens2glenn on July 16, 2014 at 12:16 AM

Oh really?

“Private humanitarian aid” or taxpayer-funded welfare…. and the difference is?

Nothing. Nada. Zip.

The results are the same. It will encourage more illegals to invade and it will emboldened them to use more children as human shields.

Because you see, that’s how socialist hellholes work. That’s how failed nanny-states infest their neighbors.

You don’t really understand human nature, much less the ruthlessness of the Left’s tactics… do you. Well no. Obviously not.

Augustinian on July 16, 2014 at 12:34 AM

listens2glenn on July 16, 2014 at 12:16 AM

Where’s your humanitarian aid for all the ghetto children living in poverty and violence in the South-side of Chicago?

Detroit?

Saginaw?

Atlanta?

East St Louis?

Shouldn’t you direct your bleeding heart towards their needs first? Or did we solve that domestic problem already?

Augustinian on July 16, 2014 at 12:39 AM

annoyinglittletwerp on July 16, 2014 at 12:26 AM

Augustinian on July 16, 2014 at 12:39 AM

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I’ll have to catch your response to this in the morning, as I’m going to bed :
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What are we (and I really mean a collective “we”) doing to “motivate” the White House to put a stop to this, and really begin the deportations, en masse ?

They started this … it’s going to take them to stop it.
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The White House seems to be unaffected by any of the outrage that has been expressed up till now. Why is that?

What is it we’re doing wrong ? … Or NOT doing right ?

listens2glenn on July 16, 2014 at 1:05 AM

Does anyone really take Glen Beck seriously anymore?

HondaV65 on July 15, 2014 at 2:55 PM

Obviously so. Beck made $90 million and $85 million is the last 2 years. Someone is taking him more seriously than the other guy crying in the Speaker’s box that’s sitting on his thumbs when he isn’t wiping tears away or mocking Conservatives.

I’m just wondering if Beck’s company bought Salem Communications. Any word on that? It seems like all the Salem sites are writing Beck stories daily. Twitchy, Townhall, and now Hot Air. Is this Beck’s plan to counter Breitbart’s empire and change how so-called Conservative sites are run?

Remember this. According to most of Beck’s more famous employees and spouses of their employees like Chris Loesch. If you don’t support Beck and submit to his well as hardcore as they do, you are un-American, un-patriotic, un-Christian, anti-kids, anti-God, anti-Conservative and you should be treated like a liberal dog before you burn in hades for all eternity. According to them, we can all get along, but first you must submit to Beck’s will and support him without question or be marginalized for the un’s and anti’s that you really are!… Nothing cult-like or liberal-tactics about any of that, right?

CommieJuice on July 16, 2014 at 1:41 AM

GB looks like LGBT

JStew on July 15, 2014 at 10:46 PM

All I saw was the GB in lGBt after reading over your comment. Your comment would have really helped Mark Levin remember the whole lgbt moniker, especially back when he and Beck weren’t on talking terms.

CommieJuice on July 16, 2014 at 1:48 AM

My point is that Beck is using these kids, Bee.

gryphon202 on July 15, 2014 at 10:18 PM

OK, that’s what I thought… :) I agree.

Bee on July 16, 2014 at 6:01 AM

Said it before. Beck is in this for…Beck.

I am a little disheartened to see so many stories of him popping up here, and on Town Hall.

I’m done with this guy.

Nolaq on July 16, 2014 at 9:01 AM

These kids are not America’s problem to solve. Send them back and let their home countries solve their own problems. For Beck to try to shame us for thinking this way because it serves his own purposes changes nothing about this very simple fact.

If he ways to give gang-bangers teddy bears, he can go right ahead and do so. Don’t malign those who think it accomplishes nothing but making the donee feel better. Treat the “kids” humanely but send them back. Now.

Nomennovum on July 16, 2014 at 9:40 AM

I’ll have to catch your response to this in the morning, as I’m going to bed :
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What are we (and I really mean a collective “we”) doing to “motivate” the White House to put a stop to this, and really begin the deportations, en masse ?

They started this … it’s going to take them to stop it.
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The White House seems to be unaffected by any of the outrage that has been expressed up till now. Why is that?

What is it we’re doing wrong ? … Or NOT doing right ?

listens2glenn on July 16, 2014 at 1:05 AM

First and foremost, “we” should not be adding faux moral credibility to this staged and calculated invasion by embracing, fostering, and advocating the Left’s bleeding-heart tactic of tolerance for “the poor children’s sake!”.

That is exactly what the DemoCommies are hoping for. And they know that self-serving egos like Beck will latch on to that irresistible pop-culture glory in order to advance their own popularity and political relevance.

Liberalism is a religion to the Left. Whereas “Conservatism” is merely a self-serving business opportunity to dysfunctional egomaniacs like Beck and O’Reilly.

And you don’t “motive” DemoCommies. You outright reject them, challenge them, and wage all out warfare against them.

So what do you do?

You do what I just did. You hammer the point that we haven’t even begun to address the needs of our own citizens. You appeal to the most primordial self-interested motives of the collective team. And you use this highly emotional motivating tactic to drive a giant wedge into your opposition’s collective “we”. You divide them against one another. You fuel the flames of their own civil war and you scatter them. And this shouldn’t be difficult, there are already minority groups on the Left who are outraged. All “we” need to do is capitalize on their outrage by promoting it.

Oh but wait! In the midst of this golden political opportunity for Conservatives, along comes this self-serving egotistic show-clown in the form of Glenn Beck to throw a psychological wrench into the whole mix. And bam! The political lines are now muddled and the DemoCommies can blur and camouflage their intra-Party divisions over the broad facade of a non-partisan disagreement.

Because see, Conservatives have no cohesive base with a communication infrastructure to counter-attack the Left. Because the highest profile members on the “Right” are nothing more that a scattered collection of P.T.Barnums with their own little marketing companies.

There’s more that should and could be done. But first, “our” side needs an ideological enema. And it should start with the dreaded RINO kryptonite of a “purity-test”. Because the fact is, the Conservative movement is bleeding to death from a thousand RINO leeches, and that needs to be addressed relentlessly.

Augustinian on July 16, 2014 at 9:46 AM

I wonder which illegal-alien-loving Corporations appealed ($$$) to Glenn (my cult-empire is worth $90 million) Beck?

Augustinian on July 16, 2014 at 10:42 AM

You do what I just did. You hammer the point that we haven’t even begun to address the needs of our own citizens. You appeal to the most primordial self-interested motives of the collective team. And you use this highly emotional motivating tactic to drive a giant wedge into your opposition’s collective “we”. You divide them against one another. You fuel the flames of their own civil war and you scatter them. And this shouldn’t be difficult, there are already minority groups on the Left who are outraged. All “we” need to do is capitalize on their outrage by promoting it

Augustinian on July 16, 2014 at 9:46 AM

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That sounds more Marxist/liberal/Cloward&Piven than anything Glenn Beck has done, or said.
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Oh but wait! In the midst of this golden political opportunity for Conservatives, along comes this self-serving egotistic show-clown in the form of Glenn Beck to throw a psychological wrench into the whole mix. And bam! The political lines are now muddled and the DemoCommies can blur and camouflage their intra-Party divisions over the broad facade of a non-partisan disagreement.

Augustinian on July 16, 2014 at 9:46 AM

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You’re not going to get me to concede that Glenn Beck’s motives are “self-serving”.

Glenn has NOT “blurred/muddled” any political lines of demarcation.

He’s been for the creation of a REAL fence on the border, and still is.

He opposed this invasion from the get-go, and still does.

He was for deportation of the very invaders he’s sending aid to before his decision to send aid was made, and he’s still for deportation.

So far, I haven’t heard any liberals applauding him for this.
Were there any that I missed? … I don’t catch everything.
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I’m going to continue believing that Glenn’s charity is NOT prolonging this invasion.

I’m guessing you’re going to continue to believe that it is.

Is NOT.

Is so.

Is NOT.

Is so.

Is NOT.

Is so.

Is NOT.

Is so.

Is NOT.

Is so.

( repeat, until the end of time . . . . . )

I don’t know what else to say. It appears we agree on everything … except this act of charity by Mercury One.

listens2glenn on July 16, 2014 at 10:55 AM

I wonder which illegal-alien-loving Corporations appealed ($$$) to Glenn (my cult-empire is worth $90 million) Beck?

Augustinian on July 16, 2014 at 10:42 AM

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Even that sounds like a liberal, class warfare question.

listens2glenn on July 16, 2014 at 10:58 AM

REPORT: Feds to open $50 million resort to illegal children…

It’s a good thing that the multimillionaire Glenn Beck raised $2 million dollars of other people’s money for these poor poor starving children™……

Because all that matters is that Glenn assumes the appearance of “caring”™…. as much as Obama and the Left appear to “care”™

Augustinian on July 16, 2014 at 11:12 AM

That sounds more Marxist/liberal/Cloward&Piven than anything Glenn Beck has done, or said.

The tactic is most definitely a Leftist tactic, but it is entirely based on the solid Conservative principles of National sovereignty, a reduction of the nanny-state, and the advancement of Capitalism over Socialism. This is how you effectively fight these bastards. You don’t need clowns like Beck and his vapid books and his vacuous marketing kitsch… which do nothing but profit Beck.

But of course, you can’t discern tactics from overall ideology because…. Glenn didn’t spoon-feed you that cognitive ability. And this is why the “Right” can’t counter-attack…….

You’re not going to get me to concede that Glenn Beck’s motives are “self-serving”.

Of course not. Because you’re deep into his cult of personality. You have no ability to openly think for yourself. You seek solutions in the personalities of dysfunctional men, not proven philosophies.

You’re a disciple of dumb.

Augustinian on July 16, 2014 at 11:23 AM

I wonder which illegal-alien-loving Corporations appealed ($$$) to Glenn (my cult-empire is worth $90 million) Beck?

Augustinian on July 16, 2014 at 10:42 AM

Even that sounds like a liberal, class warfare question.

listens2glenn on July 16, 2014 at 10:58 AM

Again your inability to discern motives from ideological and philosophical principles is predictable. Because you’re a spoon-fed Beckite.

The question was not based in class warfare per-se. Rather, it was based upon the blind and destructive self-interested motives that tolerate and foster the socialist nanny-state. This is nothing more than the shadow of capitalism hijacked and raped by the all-powerful State Party. Again, the DemoCommies divide and conquer their enemies by exploiting destructive short-sighted self-serving interests.

Augustinian on July 16, 2014 at 11:36 AM

Augustinian on July 16, 2014 at 11:23 AM

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Augustinian on July 16, 2014 at 11:36 AM

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Does anyone here honestly believe that the self-serving, showman actions by “Hey, look at me !” Glenn Beck is holding up or slowing up the deportation process?

listens2glenn on July 16, 2014 at 12:29 PM

I’m sorry, I didn’t catch your reaction to this post. Probably because you completely ignored it:

REPORT: Feds to open $50 million resort to illegal children…

It’s a good thing that the multimillionaire Glenn Beck raised $2 million dollars of other people’s money for these poor poor starving children™……

Because all that matters is that Glenn assumes the appearance of “caring”™…. as much as Obama and the Left appear to “care”™

Augustinian on July 16, 2014 at 11:12 AM

Augustinian on July 16, 2014 at 12:37 PM

Does anyone here honestly believe that the self-serving, showman actions by “Hey, look at me !” Glenn Beck is holding up or slowing up the deportation process?

listens2glenn on July 16, 2014 at 12:29 PM

Does anyone honestly believe that Showman Beck’s grandstanding is actually helping the deportation process?

Augustinian on July 16, 2014 at 12:39 PM

It’s a good thing that the multimillionaire Glenn Beck raised $2 million dollars of other people’s money for these poor poor starving children™……

Because all that matters is that Glenn assumes the appearance of “caring”™…. as much as Obama and the Left appear to “care”™

Augustinian on July 16, 2014 at 11:12 AM

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Whether Glenn is “show boating” or not is irrelevant … the money he collected was all volunteered … he didn’t use the IRS to forcibly extract it from anyone who didn’t want to participate.
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listens2glenn on July 16, 2014 at 12:29 PM

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Does anyone honestly believe that Showman Beck’s grandstanding is actually helping the deportation process?

Augustinian
on July 16, 2014 at 12:39 PM

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I believe it’s neither helping nor impeding/hindering the deportation process.

listens2glenn on July 16, 2014 at 2:38 PM

Whether Glenn is “show boating” or not is irrelevant … the money he collected was all volunteered … he didn’t use the IRS to forcibly extract it from anyone who didn’t want to participate.

It’s entirely relevant. The donors didn’t receive the personal misdirected glory and honor that Beck did. And that was his entire motive. And he obviously didn’t care about the larger political ramifications because it is all about benefiting Beck.

I believe it’s neither helping nor impeding/hindering the deportation process.

listens2glenn on July 16, 2014 at 2:38 PM

Bullsh!t. If you think the repercussions of Mr Showboat’s actions are politically neutral- then you’re a fool’s idea of a fool.

Augustinian on July 16, 2014 at 2:49 PM

Gee….. and I still didn’t catch your thoughts on this terribly inconvenient little gem.

Why, it’s almost as if you’ve been repeatedly ignoring it.

Funny that.

I’m sorry, I didn’t catch your reaction to this post. Probably because you completely ignored it:

REPORT: Feds to open $50 million resort to illegal children…

It’s a good thing that the multimillionaire Glenn Beck raised $2 million dollars of other people’s money for these poor poor starving children™……

Because all that matters is that Glenn assumes the appearance of “caring”™…. as much as Obama and the Left appear to “care”™

Augustinian on July 16, 2014 at 11:12 AM

Augustinian on July 16, 2014 at 12:37 PM

Augustinian on July 16, 2014 at 2:52 PM

Whether Glenn is “show boating” or not is irrelevant … the money he collected was all volunteered … he didn’t use the IRS to forcibly extract it from anyone who didn’t want to participate.

listens2glenn on July 16, 2014 at 2:38 PM

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It’s entirely relevant. The donors didn’t receive the personal misdirected glory and honor that Beck did. And that was his entire motive. And he obviously didn’t care about the larger political ramifications because it is all about benefiting Beck.

Augustinian on July 16, 2014 at 2:49 PM

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I am totally imperceptive to any accolades that Glenn has received for this action, BUT … that is undoubtedly due to my “blind loyalty,” which has a way of obscuring a person’s clarity of reality.

That must be what it is, ’cause I don’t believe he’s acquiring any significant ‘political gain’ in this.
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He certainly isn’t getting any financial gain out of it.
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I believe it’s neither helping nor impeding/hindering the deportation process.

listens2glenn on July 16, 2014 at 2:38 PM

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Bullsh!t. If you think the repercussions of Mr Showboat’s actions are politically neutral- then you’re a fool’s idea of a fool.

Augustinian on July 16, 2014 at 2:49 PM

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I will not accept the status of “fool” imposed on myself by you (that doesn’t mean you and whoever else can’t call me one, though), and I absolutely DO believe “Mr Showboat’s actions are politically neutral” … period.

listens2glenn on July 16, 2014 at 9:30 PM

I’m sorry, I didn’t catch your reaction to this post. Probably because you completely ignored it:

REPORT: Feds to open $50 million resort to illegal children…

It’s a good thing that the multimillionaire Glenn Beck raised $2 million dollars of other people’s money for these poor poor starving children™……

Because all that matters is that Glenn assumes the appearance of “caring”™…. as much as Obama and the Left appear to “care”™

Augustinian on July 16, 2014 at 11:12 AM

Augustinian on July 16, 2014 at 12:37 PM

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I responded to your 12:37 PM (originally 11:12 AM) comment about ‘Glenn Beck’, at 2:38 PM … after which you then responded back to me at 2:49 PM.
What I did not do, was say anything about the story you linked to, at thegatewaypundit.com, so here’s my response to that :

I believe he’s deliberately trying to “rub our noses in it”, for the purpose of provoking us into committing actions, that subsequently can justify (as he sees it) establishing a state of “martial law”, nationwide.

He poking and goading us … period.

listens2glenn on July 16, 2014 at 9:30 PM

Oh, for Pete’s sake.

Look, it doesn’t matter if Glenn Beck gets good or bad PR. You can argue either way, but my rede of the guy is that he’s doing it because it’s Right, not because it brings him attention.

Jesus is quite clear on this point: as you do it to any of these, even the least, you have done it to Me.

It may or may not be “right” to care for these children, illegally in our country. Argue all you want!
It’s certainly Wrong not to care for them.

And Mr. Beck is certainly avoiding doing the Wrong Thing, which in itself is a Right Thing.

ReggieA on July 17, 2014 at 1:03 AM

Beck is a nutcase.

Sherman1864 on July 17, 2014 at 3:32 AM

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Bmore on July 17, 2014 at 5:40 PM

Augustinian on July 16, 2014 at 2:52 PM

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We’re about to lose this thread from the main-page, so I guess I’ll see you at the next “Glenn Beck-uses-illegal-alien-invaders-for-his-own-self-serving-ends” thread.

Hard to believe there won’t be another one, sometime in the near coming weeks.

listens2glenn on July 17, 2014 at 10:05 PM

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