Poll: Two-thirds of Republicans support impeaching Obama — but only one-third of public overall

posted at 7:21 pm on July 14, 2014 by Allahpundit

Here’s what I predicted on Friday:

I haven’t seen any polls on impeachment lately, but I’d guess that impeachment supporters would start with something like 55-60 percent of the public opposed (all Democrats and a majority of indies) and 40 percent or so in favor (most Republicans).

Via Gary Jackson, how’d I do?

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In other words, 68 percent think Obama shouldn’t be impeached. Of that number, 56 percent — a clear majority — think he hasn’t done anything to deserve impeachment and another 12 percent think he has but that we should decline to do it anyway, presumably for the good of the country. Just six percent of Democrats think Obama should be removed from office versus 63 percent of Republicans. Indies are more narrowly split, of course, but even there, a large majority opposes impeachment. Fifty-two percent think Obama hasn’t committed impeachable offenses; another 14 percent think that he has but oppose impeachment anyway, for a grand total of 66 percent against. When you refine the impeachment question to ask whether there’s enough justification for Congress to begin impeachment proceedings against the president, the numbers look better but the balance of opinion is still on the other side. Indies split 37/37 but overall the public opposes the idea 35/44. See now why there’s so little appetite among pols, including and especially among Republican candidates for Senate, to back Palin up? Even among Republican voters, 36 percent oppose impeachment. How do you build political momentum for removing him when you’re starting in a hole that deep?

The silver lining is that a near-majority of the public does think Obama’s exceeded the limits of his authority as president, 49/34, including an eye-popping split among indies of 52/25. The next time you stumble across some lefty hack online guffawing that Republicans are hysterical in thinking that O’s crossed any sort of constitutional line, remember those numbers. Although I wonder: Realistically, in an age of deep partisan polarization, what’s the best a sixth-year president could hope for in this metric? If we elect Rand Paul in 2016 and he spends six years pushing the idea of “modest” executive power, he’s still going to have 80 percent of Democrats accusing him of having gone too far, no? I think O is, unquestionably, guiltier than many of his predecessors of impermissible power grabs, but that doesn’t mean I think the data here is being driven more by careful consideration of what he’s done than by party ID. It may be that way for his successors too, at least for awhile.

Via RCP, here’s Bill Kristol, who helped promote Palin inside the GOP prior to her being named to the ticket in 2008, and Ana Navarro, who served as a director of Hispanic outreach for the McCain 2008 campaign, agreeing that “responsible” Republican officials aren’t pushing impeachment. Harrumph.


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Keep in mind, the Children’s Crusade and BarryCare still haven’t hit the LIV crowd hard.

Yet.

Go Sarah Go!!! This impeachment thing is the Dems only hope this November. Keep polling, make Republican candidates answer questions about impeachment. It will either disfranchise hardcore tea partiers even more for the next few cycles or it will animate Dems. Either way is a win win. Also Sarah Palin as at the center of the conversation maeks it about intra-party fighting, which the media loves to cover. This woman is amazing, love her!

libfreeordie on July 14, 2014 at 7:27 PM

I thought the Demos would proudly be running on Barrycare in November.

formwiz on July 14, 2014 at 8:46 PM

Hey Bishop…

wolly4321 on July 14, 2014 at 8:41 PM

Don’t tell anyone but I’ve got a 3%’er patch on my clays vest.

Bishop on July 14, 2014 at 8:53 PM

I thought it was already over :P

thebrokenrattle on July 14, 2014 at 8:39 PM

Your country IS…I thought you were mocking me in the Biblical sense…

Just to clarify: You have lost your Constitutional Republic…As for the end? Only God knows the exact hour, but if a person were to read and study scripture with an emphasis on prophecy, the case can and should be made that yes, we are living in the End Times.

Mock and chortle away…that, too, has been prophesied…

bimmcorp on July 14, 2014 at 8:54 PM

It looks like this, Jake.

wolly4321 on July 14, 2014 at 8:55 PM

huckleberryfriend on July 14, 2014 at 8:40 PM

And you are not likely too, either. Much more click worthy to bandy words and run down Gov. Palin…

bimmcorp on July 14, 2014 at 8:57 PM

So… now it’s official. It’s a matter of how long the individual has been present in this nation illegally that determines whether the Obama administration decides that individual deserves preferential treatment under the law or not.

thatsafactjack on July 14, 2014 at 8:11 PM

I recently read a book by David Baldacci The Forgotten

The parallels between that novel and what is happening now are striking. It’s a book about the human slave trade. Harumph… Dems supporting the slave trade by allowing this trade to invade the USA is quite telling.

Who’s side is this Obama fellow on? Sheesh.

Key West Reader on July 14, 2014 at 9:00 PM

This pick is better. Active duty in Mosul.

http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2009/10/07/active-duty-troops-in-iraq-are-wearing-oath-keeper-tabs-what-we-are-wearing-while-over-here-in-iraq/

You think they might be pizzed at dogeater?
I imagine they are.

wolly4321 on July 14, 2014 at 9:01 PM

libfreeordie on July 14, 2014 at 7:27 PM

Three quarters of our Republic wants him gone. Good luck with that strategy. Obama might want to start riots in the streets ala Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson, but America isn’t Detroit or Chicago. We are a civilized people who depend on our electoral system to remove those unworthy to hold office.

See? This is why dead people ALWAYS vote for Democrats.

Key West Reader on July 14, 2014 at 9:04 PM

Ought Obama be impeached? Certainly!

Could impeachment be accomplished? Unlikely!

Would the political fallout over an impeachment battle result in huge political losses for Republicans and other Conservatives? Quite Likely!

It’s only a battle you want to fight if you are eager to be kept as a minority party in congress (quite possibly both houses), and not regain the presidency.

DaveK on July 14, 2014 at 9:12 PM

LOL! Bill Kristol backing off the Frankenstein Monster called Sarah Palin he helped create.

I expect a snarky facebook post slamming Kristol from Snow Snookie in the next day or two.

Ned Pepper on July 14, 2014 at 7:29 PM

Sarah Palin hasn’t done any harm to our Nation that I can see.
You’ve managed to help create, nurture, and cultivate
the worst president in the last 70 plus years…
Behold the Werewolf, who only comes out when you’re not
displaying your Lips to Service him….

BTW, Kristol backed off from her years go…a little slow on the
upswing aren’t you?

ToddPA on July 14, 2014 at 9:17 PM

Once upon a time everybody was in an uproar because Palin called the committees or panels which would ration end of life care “death panels.” Now everybody, that is EVERYBODY, calls the panels and the concept behind them death panels.

Viator on July 14, 2014 at 9:19 PM

as the economy turns south shortly when the fed turns off the last few drops of adrenalin, these numbers will change.

astonerii on July 14, 2014 at 9:19 PM

Isn’t yougov an online poll? As I recall it is, so should be immediately discounted. I went to the pdf and they refused to say how they conducted it.

However, one result was fascinating, and that was that even a majority of Independents say O’bama exceeded his Constitutional limits as pResident. They must all be Racists too!

Del Dolemonte on July 14, 2014 at 9:19 PM

Most of those 2/3 are ignorant about the Constitution and know they are ignorant so they aren’t going to tell some pollster that someone should be impeached. You’d have to begin impeaching Obama and let the charges set in and argued before you have a popular majority in favor of it.

Buddahpundit on July 14, 2014 at 9:19 PM

Nothing worth having is easy – we’re going to have to earn it.

We’ll be ok – I really believe that.

jake-the-goose on July 14, 2014 at 8:04 PM

Says the coward who is too afraid to pick a rifle & fight for his freedom.

8 weight on July 14, 2014 at 9:33 PM

Wish somebody’d ask how many think he “deserves impeachment but requires Democratic votes, the possibility of success is nonexistent.”

That’s aside from determining beyond doubt the ownership of the smoking gun. It’s dead obvious this kind of overt obstructionism is requires a lot of moving parts at very high levels, but the obstruction has been successful. It will be interesting to see these cases develop over the next year.

Recon5 on July 14, 2014 at 9:35 PM

Obama is the best reason to support Republicans in November and 2016.

STFU and keep our eye the ball – please – and of course IMO

jake-the-goose on July 14, 2014 at 7:30 PM

Because winning the House, which controls the purse strings, has been so successful.

bw222 on July 14, 2014 at 9:37 PM

Because winning the House, which controls the purse strings, has been so successful.

bw222 on July 14, 2014 at 9:37 PM

Nope, because having the presidency, the house and the senate accomplished conservatism. If only we can go back to something similar to the Bush years we are saved!

astonerii on July 14, 2014 at 9:45 PM

And that Bill is the reason I will no longer send money to the GOP. Any one who is responsible should be calling for his impeachment. I am coming to believe you Bill, are anti-American.

Zelsdorf Ragshaft on July 14, 2014 at 9:47 PM

I recently read a book by David Baldacci The Forgotten

The parallels between that novel and what is happening now are striking. It’s a book about the human slave trade. Harumph… Dems supporting the slave trade by allowing this trade to invade the USA is quite telling.

Who’s side is this Obama fellow on? Sheesh.

Key West Reader on July 14, 2014 at 9:00 PM

Read “Uncle Tom’s Cabin”.

Or Who Goes Nazi?.

formwiz on July 14, 2014 at 9:52 PM

Who Goes Nazi?.

formwiz on July 14, 2014 at 9:52 PM

Ask someone who knows…

“There is more that binds us to Bolshevism than separates us from it. There is, above all, genuine, revolutionary feeling, which is alive everywhere in Russia except where there are Jewish Marxists. I have always made allowance for this circumstance, and given orders that former Communists are to be admitted to the party at once. The petit bourgeois Social-Democrat and the trade-union boss will never make a National Socialist, but the Communists always will.” – Adolf Hitler

sharrukin on July 14, 2014 at 10:00 PM

I’m one of those who believe Sarah Palin is right and still believe it’s wrong. Sarah Palin is, basically, talking about what remedies there are for a lawless President and, if impeachment can’t be on the table for this one, who can it be on the table for.

The only reason, and it is the only reason, is the Democrats in the Senate would never convict and that’s not because Sarah Palin isn’t right, it’s because they’re so committed to this agenda they’re willing to sacrifice every single bit of their integrity to make sure Obama completes his term, in the hope that they will still be able to accomplish some of the things he wants to do. They know they can’t do them with Republicans because, what they want to do is contrary to what the majority of Republican voters believe and the establishment will only go so far.

So, Sarah’s right because Obama deserves it, but we don’t want Holder and Biden left to do serious damage. Actually, I believe they should impeach Holder and Kosignen (the IRS Head) if they win the Senate and have the House. If you can’t impeach the head, you can at least deal with those who enable him. Perhaps that would send a message to Obama that he needs to change his ways. Who knows, this President isn’t really good at getting the right message.

bflat879 on July 14, 2014 at 10:10 PM

bimmcorp on July 14, 2014 at 8:54 PM

Oh surely the End will come someday but this is not that day.

As for my country, she lives and breathes. Resilient, she will survive Obama.

thebrokenrattle on July 14, 2014 at 10:14 PM

If only we can go back to something similar to the Bush years we are saved!

astonerii on July 14, 2014 at 9:45 PM

Are we not better off??!!??..:)

Dire Straits on July 14, 2014 at 10:19 PM

thebrokenrattle on July 14, 2014 at 10:14 PM

Hear!!..Hear!!..:)

Dire Straits on July 14, 2014 at 10:20 PM

1) Under no circumstances (other than 67 Republicans in the Senate) should the house impeach Barack Obama.

2) Under no circumstances should Sarah Palin, or anyone else shut up about Impeaching Barack Obama.

jaydee_007 on July 15, 2014 at 2:08 AM

People need to give up on this impeachment nonsense. Even if Republicans did try to impeach Obama, it would backfire so badly and it would cost Republicans the next couple of elections.

SoulGlo on July 15, 2014 at 5:51 AM

Appeals to Authority are the hallmark of the AUTHORITARIAN, Allahpundit.

mountainaires on July 15, 2014 at 6:22 AM

Most of those 2/3 are ignorant about the Constitution and know they are ignorant so they aren’t going to tell some pollster that someone should be impeached. You’d have to begin impeaching Obama and let the charges set in and argued before you have a popular majority in favor of it.

Buddahpundit on July 14, 2014 at 9:19 PM

Nailed it!

mountainaires on July 15, 2014 at 6:25 AM

Most of those 2/3 are ignorant about the Constitution and know they are ignorant so they aren’t going to tell some pollster that someone should be impeached. You’d have to begin impeaching Obama and let the charges set in and argued before you have a popular majority in favor of it.

Buddahpundit on July 14, 2014 at 9:19 PM

And that’s why we managed to get Clinton out of office before he served a full 2 terms and… what?
This would work pretty much like it did last time. “Let the charges set in”? Yeah, the media is really going to help with that qualifier. This is another distraction and the more we talk about it, the happier the Democrats are.

rhombus on July 15, 2014 at 7:11 AM


“Social proof” is a related concept. Social proof is the well-known principle stating that people will believe something if most other people believe it. And see this. In other words, most people have a herd instinct, so if a story ranks highly, more people are likely to believe it and be influenced by it.

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/07/pentagon-admits-spending-millions-study-manipulate-social-media-users.html

That is what is being used here, by AP, to influence and persuade readers that IMPEACHMENT is not popular, so why would anyone support it? To be fair, perhaps AP is not consciously doing it; but that IS, in fact, precisely what he is doing!

Think for yourself; what are Obama’s crimes? Do they not constitute impeachable actions? Reasonable people can perhaps disagree–but not on the bssis that impeachment is not popular acc to POLLS, because polls are manipulated propaganda.

Think for yourself.

mountainaires on July 15, 2014 at 7:22 AM

Responsible Ana Navarro supported Huntsman, The Sane One, in 2012. How do you explain Republican consultants (Wallace, Hoover, Navarro)? How did they survive Carrie White’s prom night?

cbenoistd on July 15, 2014 at 7:57 AM

Bill Kristol is like a few former Palin supporters here – still whining about her not being willing to drive her family into bankruptcy. Apparently they can’t accept that she resigned rather than continue to fight unsupported ethics lawsuits at a high cost not only to the state of Alaska but to her personal finances. Apparently how dare she not fall on her sword and go into massive debt in order to grub for power. And we all know that being personally fiscally responsible disqualifies her for having any right to express her political positions.

katiejane on July 15, 2014 at 7:58 AM

Allahpundit, you need to read:

Palin and the strategic impeachment question

- and -

Our Roost, Obama’s Chickens
From the Middle East to Russia to our own southern border, Obama’s bills are coming due.

john.frank on July 15, 2014 at 8:17 AM

Palin knows what she’s doing. Zero won’t be impeached, but now everyone knows that he should be. That is worse for Zero because he doesn’t get to play the victim like he would if impeachment were going on. He’s just a criminal president who is being allowed to serve out his term and go the hell away so the country doesn’t have to endure a nasty impeachment. He sent his capo Holder out to attack Palin. Zero understands what she is doing, and he understands how much it is damaging him.

Rational Thought on July 15, 2014 at 8:19 AM

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/07/14/Dick-Cheney-Obama-Has-Exceeded-Constitutional-Authority-By-Use-of-Executive-Power

Dick Cheney: Obama Has Exceeded Constitutional Authority by Use of Executive Power

the_nile on July 15, 2014 at 8:43 AM

Rational Thought on July 15, 2014 at 8:19 AM

I like it. Good point.

mountainaires on July 15, 2014 at 9:12 AM

The LoInfo’s will continue to carry Obama at the front of their parade as long as the Geriatric Old Poophead (GOP) leadership mumble and bumble their inarticulate messages on just about everything when they are given a few moments to speak on the Lame Stream PRESSSSidential media.

The Geriatrics are happy with status quo so long as they are making their crony deals that help preserve their minority power… Mostly, they’re afraid that speaking out against Obama’s will earn them some racist war on women label — better to just mumble along…

Expect this to hold true, even if the GOP somehow manage to mumble and bumble a take over the Senate in the fall.

The Geriatrics are like dinosaurs in headlights when confronted with actually having to lead. Promoting a vision of Leadership requires a younger heart, mind and soul. Such folks are a threat to the Geriatrics so the Geriatrics focus their limited energy and vision on squashing younger energetic folks from taking over the GOP.

drfredc on July 15, 2014 at 9:18 AM

Take this poll in 2015, see where the nations stands on Impeachment.
Their public schools overrun with disease riddled illegals, using up all aid like locusts. Legal citizen families coming home with headlice, ringworm, TB shots, Scabies, & Mexican gangs killing eachother in high schools spilling into neighborhoods.
Again, take this poll in 2015.
Sarah Palin’s impeachment calls will seem prophetic
portlandon on July 14, 2014 at 7:59 PM

EXACTLY!
And a RINO controlled senate will do absolutely nothing, despite unlawful executive orders from the White House.

fight like a girl on July 15, 2014 at 9:55 AM

Impeachment should not be a political calculation. It should be about a President not upholding the law. Palin is correct.

fight like a girl on July 15, 2014 at 9:58 AM

Why is Palin getting skewered for this by the squish wing, but Andrew McCarthy isn’t? Interesting to think about.

ddrintn on July 15, 2014 at 10:27 AM

Ned Pepper on July 14, 2014 at 7:29 PM

I left you a comment at Waterloo Kristol on my blog. Any tips you may have for improving the caliber of my work are always appreciated. P.S. You don’t have to post there anonymously. I won’t harm you.

Bmore on July 15, 2014 at 10:43 AM

Sorry, but the argument that Obama’s no worse than any other president and that equal percentages of people always want to impeach the president is specious at best. It’s patently ridiculous.

Rather than comparing Obama’s numbers to a hypothetical future Rand Paul) presidency, which is frivolous conjecture masquerading as analysis, why not look at actual administrations.

Bottom line, if AP is suggesting that a third of the country believing the President should be removed from office is good news for Obama, it might be time to look for an opening in the White House press office. That’s almost Carney-worthy.

IndieDogg on July 15, 2014 at 10:56 AM

I wonder what the numbers would be if the public was asked if all 536 of the a-holes in Dc should be impeached and removed from office and sent to jail. I’m thinking it would be about 80/20 supporting the option. As long as the public sees its all of them the dems/reps/ind in flyover country would rally around it in a heartbeat

unseen on July 15, 2014 at 11:55 AM

you know regardless of what Allah says. almost 60% of your party agreeing to an idea of a trail balloon is very good. If a strong unified case was made the indies would switch the #’s on the GOP side would increase. even some of the dems would get onboard. Because Obama and the Whitehouse has no defense against this. Period. Every action the POTUS takes from here on out will only add fuel to the fire and increase the calls for impeachment. This is a fight the American people can win. and it would serve as a wake up call to DC that they need to stop listening to the billionaires and start listening to the votes before we get tired of talking and start taking action.

unseen on July 15, 2014 at 11:59 AM

Palin knows what she’s doing. Zero won’t be impeached, but now everyone knows that he should be. That is worse for Zero because he doesn’t get to play the victim like he would if impeachment were going on. He’s just a criminal president who is being allowed to serve out his term and go the hell away so the country doesn’t have to endure a nasty impeachment. He sent his capo Holder out to attack Palin. Zero understands what she is doing, and he understands how much it is damaging him.

Rational Thought on July 15, 2014 at 8:19 AM

Bingo. We haven’t often agreed in the past, but that is absolutely dead-on accurate, and the most cogent comment on this subject that I have seen here.

ddrintn on July 15, 2014 at 12:59 PM

Palin knows what she’s doing. Zero won’t be impeached, but now everyone knows that he should be. That is worse for Zero because he doesn’t get to play the victim like he would if impeachment were going on. He’s just a criminal president who is being allowed to serve out his term and go the hell away so the country doesn’t have to endure a nasty impeachment. He sent his capo Holder out to attack Palin. Zero understands what she is doing, and he understands how much it is damaging him.

Rational Thought on July 15, 2014 at 8:19 AM

Actually, you have it totally backwards. Holder was sent out to accentuate Palin’s remarks, in order to try and show her as the face of the right. Anyone with a lick of common sense knows what that means.

cimbri on July 15, 2014 at 5:06 PM

cimbri on July 15, 2014 at 5:06 PM

She’s been the face of the far right since September 3rd of 08′. Nothing new about Holder though. He thinks he’s winning points by attacking her and calling 60% of Americans, racists. Not smart.

I know a number of people that voted for Obama twice, and are now scared about what’s happening here.

There is a growing number of Holder racists every day. Between the cost and new inconveniences of Obamacare, the IRS, the VA, the border…people are really starting to say, “WTF is going on”?, and leaving out any past defense of Obama or congress.

This wasn’t an off the cuff idea by Palin to call for O’s impeachment. She has a case to make against the man and I have a feeling that she will be far more important to the election later this year, than many are thinking now.

If she’s the only messenger for now, so be it. But I have a feeling she will be come known as the first of many calling for his impeachment in the coming years.

CTSherman on July 15, 2014 at 6:26 PM

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