Uh oh: Moscow claims Ukraine attack inside Russian territory killed civilians

posted at 2:01 pm on July 13, 2014 by Noah Rothman

Following a ceasefire between Ukrainian forces and pro-Russian militants in eastern and southern Ukraine, it briefly seemed as though some of the intensity of this dangerous European conflict had been depleted. The apparent withdrawal of some Russian support for the separatist rebels in East Ukraine allowed forces loyal to Kiev to retake some key cities, including the key pro-Russian stronghold of Sloviansk.

The last two days have shown, however, that this conflict is far from being resolved. The worst violence may be yet to come.

Overnight, the Russian foreign ministry claimed that a Ukrainian shell fell inside Russian territory and landed near a private home killing one and injuring two more. Russian territory has been hit by errant Ukrainian shells before, but this is the first time shells fired by Ukrainian forces have resulted in Russian deaths.

Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Grigory Karasin described the reported incident as an “extremely dangerous escalation for Russian citizens on Russian territory”.

“The conversation with the Ukrainian side on this issue will be serious and tough.” he told Russian radio.

A foreign ministry statement warned of “irreversible consequences, the responsibility for which lies on the Ukrainian side”.

This follows one of the worst episodes of violence throughout the course of this conflict when 19 Ukrainian soldiers were killed in a July 11 rocket attack. That attack sparked broader clashes across the country.

“For every life of our soldiers the rebels will pay with tens and hundreds of their own. Not a single terrorist will escape responsibility, each will get his comeuppance,” Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko said in the wake of that attack.

Unconfirmed reports indicate that Russian forces have been heading toward the Ukrainian border and are even crossing the border.

This story via a Ukrainian source and translated via The Interpreter:

Russian Federation troops have penetrated three kilometers into the territory of Ukraine in Lugansk Region and organized an ambush there. Andrei Lysenko, spokesman for the Ukrainian Council on National Security and Defense (CNSD), announced this, Channel 5 reported.

The conflict has taken a toll on Russia’s image around the world. Less than a year after President Barack Obama announced that he would work in conjunction with Russian President Vladimir Putin to resolve the ongoing civil war in Syria, Americans’ attitudes toward Putin and Russia are nearing all-time lows.

“Eighty percent of Americans said they had little or no confidence that Mr. Putin would do the right thing with his foreign policy, as did a majority of adults in every European country surveyed,” read a New York Times report on a recent Pew Research Center survey. Conversely, Putin enjoys the support of more than 80 percent of Russians for his handling of foreign affairs.


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He`ll take Ukraine.

ThePrez on July 13, 2014 at 2:04 PM

So?

Let’s talk about Crimea before we talk about one stray shell.

WK on July 13, 2014 at 2:05 PM

“For every life of our soldiers the rebels will pay with tens and hundreds of their own. Not a single terrorist will escape responsibility, each will get his comeuppance,” Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko said in the wake of that attack.

He’s full of sh!t.

VegasRick on July 13, 2014 at 2:08 PM

Not to worry: the Great and Mighty Lightbringer is on it.

Barry will give a speech, and everything will be fine between Ukraine and Russia.

MidniteRambler on July 13, 2014 at 2:12 PM

I am at point that I think the earth needs a do over. Maybe America will get in to help Ukraine and China will find it’s way in. Let’s get India and Pakistan in on the fun. France is always looking for a good d$&@ to suck so maybe they will get in too on behalf of Saudi Arabia.

coolrepublica on July 13, 2014 at 2:14 PM

Vlad sees Barry too scared to go near the border for fear he might catch something and figures it’s time to rock.

formwiz on July 13, 2014 at 2:16 PM

The White House has released a statement on the latest developments in Ukraine: “Five ball, corner pocket”

Mark1971 on July 13, 2014 at 2:16 PM

As long as we depend on Russia in Afghanistan we are not going to do anything significant to Russia.

I prefer to get out of Afghanistan, but some want to stay there.

William Eaton on July 13, 2014 at 2:19 PM

The communists burned the Reichstag!

Jaibones on July 13, 2014 at 2:20 PM

The White House has released a statement on the latest developments in Ukraine:

“Five ball, corner pocket … waitress, I’ll have another summer shandy.”

Mark1971 on July 13, 2014 at 2:16 PM

Let’s be clear.

Jaibones on July 13, 2014 at 2:21 PM

obama’s reset button over Ukraine just exploded, like all his other Arab Springs.

Foreign policy of obama has not freed one people, except the Guantanamo contingent.

Domestic destruction, via open borders, and this, is in full swing.

Congratulations traitors of the land, incl. those here.

Schadenfreude on July 13, 2014 at 2:25 PM

The White House has released a statement on the latest developments in Ukraine:

“Five ball, corner pocket … waitress, I’ll have another summer shandy.”

Mark1971 on July 13, 2014 at 2:16 PM

Let’s be clear.

Jaibones on July 13, 2014 at 2:21 PM

“The Ukraine is just another phony scandal drummed up by the Republicans. Just like the phony scandal on our southern border.”

Filthy bastard obaME!.

VegasRick on July 13, 2014 at 2:25 PM

The communists burned the Reichstag!

Jaibones on July 13, 2014 at 2:20 PM

And now they own the White House.

sharrukin on July 13, 2014 at 2:25 PM

“Not even a smidgen of ineptness” — obama, the lilliputian Man of the USA.

Schadenfreude on July 13, 2014 at 2:25 PM

Congratulations traitors of the land, incl. those here.

Schadenfreude on July 13, 2014 at 2:25 PM

I hate them most because they can get an education here at HA but refuse to do so. They know who they are as well as we do.

VegasRick on July 13, 2014 at 2:27 PM

VegasRick on July 13, 2014 at 2:27 PM

The leftist thugs aren’t even the worst of all of them.

Schadenfreude on July 13, 2014 at 2:28 PM

“MOSCOW, July 4 (RIA Novosti) – US exports to Russia rose 21 percent and reached a record high of $1.25 billion in May, according to the Bureau of Economic Analysis, an arm of the US Department of Commerce.”

Viator on July 13, 2014 at 2:28 PM

Russia, Hamas, Syria, ISIS, and filthy stupid people at Foggy Bottom and the White House………

Coming this Summer to a theater (of operations) near you. WWIII!
Now with Nukes!

This isn’t your granddaddy’s global war!

Happy Nomad on July 13, 2014 at 2:30 PM

Barry is immediately taking steps to consider whether or not to unfriend Putin on Facebook.

PackerBronco on July 13, 2014 at 2:33 PM

coolrepublica on July 13, 2014 at 2:14 PM

You could always move back home.

RickB on July 13, 2014 at 2:36 PM

Barry is immediately taking steps to consider whether or not to unfriend Putin on Facebook.

PackerBronco on July 13, 2014 at 2:33 PM

“You laugh and mock but just wait and see……..he’ll do it by the end of summer……”

libtard

VegasRick on July 13, 2014 at 2:38 PM

The White House has released a statement on the latest developments in Ukraine:

“Five ball, corner pocket … waitress, I’ll have another summer shandy.”

Mark1971 on July 13, 2014 at 2:16 PM

Let’s be clear.

Jaibones on July 13, 2014 at 2:21 PM

Okay, let’s be clear. Even on Sunday the White House Situation room is monitoring all that is going on in Israel’s fight against Muslim animals, ISIS battles in Iraq and Syria, Iran’s attempt at getting nuclear weapons, the invasion on our Southern borders, and Russia’s attempts to reconstitute its empire.

No matter where in the world the President of the United States are, he is able to be fully briefed……… if any of this boring stuff is going to interrupt his plans to spend half of August on vacation. Because nobody wants to deal with the filthy Obama family when you come bearing bad news about their vacation plans. They flew the damned dog up on his own Osprey for Christ’s sake! The lessons learned when Mooch had to go with her brats to Florida beaches to look at oil blobs in a photo-op for the commoners are not lost on the current staffers.

Happy Nomad on July 13, 2014 at 2:39 PM

“For every life of our soldiers the rebels will pay with tens and hundreds of their own. Not a single terrorist will escape responsibility, each will get his comeuppance,” Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko said in the wake of that attack.

How dare he resist the reassembly of the most glorious Russian Empire under Czar Putin!

How do you say Lebensraum in Russian?

slickwillie2001 on July 13, 2014 at 2:41 PM

The Feckless Wonder won’t even deploy the National Guard to secure our own border, so Putin knows he can do whatever he wants without any serious response from the US. So long Ukraine. Maybe this time Russia won’t instigate a deliberate famine that kills 5 million plus…we hope.

NotCoach on July 13, 2014 at 2:42 PM

Uh oh: Moscow claims Ukraine attack inside Russian territory killed civilians

…too bad!…if you like your territory…you can keep your territory!

JugEarsButtHurt on July 13, 2014 at 2:44 PM

Barry is immediately taking steps to consider whether or not to unfriend Putin on Facebook.

PackerBronco on July 13, 2014 at 2:33 PM

The State Department has gone to DEFCON Chartreuse and is analyzing potential battle damage from switching to a serifs on the typeface for strongly worded letters. Some hawks are even calling for the use of bolded text even if that requires upping the DEFCON status to mauve.

Happy Nomad on July 13, 2014 at 2:44 PM

Maybe this time Russia won’t instigate a deliberate famine that kills 5 million plus…we hope.

NotCoach on July 13, 2014 at 2:42 PM

Not to be rude but, hope in one hand…..and all that stuff….. The world is on fire and all the filthy bastard obaME! can do is fan the flames and throw gasoline on it.

VegasRick on July 13, 2014 at 2:45 PM

Some hawks are even calling for the use of bolded text even if that requires upping the DEFCON status to mauve.

Happy Nomad on July 13, 2014 at 2:44 PM

Putin will be impressed when they go ALL CAPS on his azz!

VegasRick on July 13, 2014 at 2:51 PM

Is everybody gone to go watch the soccer game? LOL! The last soccer thread was a hoot!

VegasRick on July 13, 2014 at 2:56 PM

Believe in the power of the #hashtag!

MidniteRambler on July 13, 2014 at 2:57 PM

Believe in the power of the #hashtag!

MidniteRambler on July 13, 2014 at 2:57 PM

#BringBackOurDignity

VegasRick on July 13, 2014 at 2:59 PM

I thought it was this blogs policy to refer to Ukraine’s capital as Kyiv, and not the Russian spelled Kiev? Has this changed? Does Noah Rothman think that Ukraine belongs to Russia?

BigGator5 on July 13, 2014 at 3:00 PM

How do you say Lebensraum in Russian?

slickwillie2001 on July 13, 2014 at 2:41 PM

Same way.

Uncle Joe took official ownership sometime after July ’43.

formwiz on July 13, 2014 at 3:03 PM

I thought it was this blogs policy to refer to Ukraine’s capital as Kyiv, and not the Russian spelled Kiev? Has this changed? Does Noah Rothman think that Ukraine belongs to Russia?

BigGator5 on July 13, 2014 at 3:00 PM

Focused like a laser on the really important things!

sharrukin on July 13, 2014 at 3:04 PM

As long as we depend on Russia in Afghanistan we are not going to do anything significant to Russia.

I prefer to get out of Afghanistan, but some want to stay there.

William Eaton on July 13, 2014 at 2:19 PM

They liked the last 13 years there so much they want it repeated.

VorDaj on July 13, 2014 at 3:09 PM

How do you say Lebensraum in Russian?

slickwillie2001 on July 13, 2014 at 2:41 PM

How do you say Lebensraum in Spanish?

VorDaj on July 13, 2014 at 3:11 PM

Focused like a laser on the really important things!

sharrukin on July 13, 2014 at 3:04 PM

It actually IS important. Russians and their sympathizers spell it Kiev, while independent Ukrainians and their supporters spell it Kyiv.

Words, and their spelling, have meaning and are important.

BigGator5 on July 13, 2014 at 3:24 PM

Having grown up in the middle of the cold ware, I think it’s safe to say, “this like most other Russian claims is just another commie lie.”

MrsGsBoyTommy on July 13, 2014 at 3:27 PM

Hey, look, there’s a new episode of “The Ship” on tonight! Oh yeah, and a “polar vortex” is swooping down on middle America. Anybody know what Tom Cruise has been up to lately?

HiJack on July 13, 2014 at 3:29 PM

Believe in the power of the #hashtag!

MidniteRambler on July 13, 2014 at 2:57 PM

That only seems to be noticed when it comes with the First Yeti scowling at the camera.

Happy Nomad on July 13, 2014 at 3:29 PM

Hey, look, there’s a new episode of “The Ship” on tonight! Oh yeah, and a “polar vortex” is swooping down on middle America. Anybody know what Tom Cruise has been up to lately?

HiJack on July 13, 2014 at 3:29 PM

That’s “The Last Ship.” Over 23 years in the Navy and I never knew we had so many unmanned fueling/supply stations in the Atlantic.

Happy Nomad on July 13, 2014 at 3:31 PM

Having grown up in the middle of the cold ware, I think it’s safe to say, “this like most other Russian claims is just another commie lie.”

MrsGsBoyTommy on July 13, 2014 at 3:27 PM

Isn’t a refrigerator or freezer “coldware” ;0

Happy Nomad on July 13, 2014 at 3:32 PM

OT- This ought to be a fun topic at HA this week.

Attorney General Eric Holder said Sunday he and President Obama have been targets of “a racial animus” by some of the administration’s political opponents.

As if whites would be acclaimed as heroes if they did the same stuff these two filthy criminals have done. As if there is no such thing as legitimate opposing viewpoints to whatever the rat-eared wonder and his minions demand from taxpayers.

Eric Holder is more of a racist than anybody who wears a KKK hood. And unlike the KKK he hides behind the legitimate work done by past generations to launch his racist attacks on the nation. And he has a large urban audience to provide cover.

Happy Nomad on July 13, 2014 at 3:40 PM

Probably just another of Putin’s FSB agents doing his dirty work for him.

FSB agents supplied explosives for other incidents that got the Chechen conflict going, so they are used to killing their own people to Putin’s ends.

ajacksonian on July 13, 2014 at 3:55 PM

The State Department has gone to DEFCON Chartreuse and is analyzing potential battle damage from switching to a serifs on the typeface for strongly worded letters. Some hawks are even calling for the use of bolded text even if that requires upping the DEFCON status to mauve.

Happy Nomad on July 13, 2014 at 2:44 PM

We’re clearly up to our eyeballs in Mr. Magnans.
WWRD – What would Retief do?

AesopFan on July 13, 2014 at 4:13 PM

The Feckless Wonder won’t even deploy the National Guard to secure our own border, so Putin knows he can do whatever he wants without any serious response from the US. So long Ukraine. Maybe this time Russia won’t instigate a deliberate famine that kills 5 million plus…we hope.

NotCoach on July 13, 2014 at 2:42 PM

Yes, our friends fear our actions much more than our enemies. This administration’s handling of the invasion of our southern border challenges Maliki’s level of ineptness at handling the invasion of northern Iraq.

KW64 on July 13, 2014 at 4:21 PM

Ukrainian officials say, “total nonsense,” that the shell was most likely from rebel forces. Considering their opponents’ history of blatantly lying about all matters Ukrainian, I definitely wouldn’t rule out that possibility.

I thought it was this blogs policy to refer to Ukraine’s capital as Kyiv, and not the Russian spelled Kiev? Has this changed? Does Noah Rothman think that Ukraine belongs to Russia?

BigGator5 on July 13, 2014 at 3:00 PM

I don’t think it’s blog policy; it’s the blogger’s choice. Ed uses, “Kyiv,” while Noah uses “Kiev.” The official name is the Ukrainian-language transliteration (“Kyiv”), while historically it’s been known to English-speakers by the Russian-language transliteration (“Kiev”). I don’t think a pro-Western Ukrainian would quibble much about it — many have Russian as a first language, after all — but, yes, using “Kyiv” does show that you respect the sovereignty of Ukraine, so it’s a nice touch.

How do you say Lebensraum in Russian?

slickwillie2001 on July 13, 2014 at 2:41 PM

That’s easy, “near abroad.”

calbear on July 13, 2014 at 4:23 PM

HiJack on July 13, 2014 at 3:29 PM

That’s “The Last Ship.” Over 23 years in the Navy and I never knew we had so many unmanned fueling/supply stations in the Atlantic.

Happy Nomad on July 13, 2014 at 3:31 PM

Okay, you got me, Nomad. I really wasn’t being distracted, after all. /

HiJack on July 13, 2014 at 4:27 PM

Uh oh: Moscow claims Ukraine attack inside Russian territory killed civilians

Modern Socialist Europe has their stuff together. They don’t fight wars or have riots and violence like back when the nationalists and monarchists were in control. They have free health care and cool trains and stuff.

We should be just like them.

Dr. ZhivBlago on July 13, 2014 at 5:08 PM

That’s “The Last Ship.” Over 23 years in the Navy and I never knew we had so many unmanned fueling/supply stations in the Atlantic.

Happy Nomad on July 13, 2014 at 3:31 PM

Need to know, partner. Need to know. Wait till you learn about the 500 combatant ships we have in cold storage. Hold on….whats that sound….man, that chopper is really low….and right over my hou

BobMbx on July 13, 2014 at 6:10 PM

This article is pinning a lot of credence on a somewhat unreliable liveblog. I know it has covered the Ukraine crisis for over 4 months but a lot of these liveblog sites are pretty hysterical, unsourced, susceptible to spreading unsourced propaganda from both sides.

Where are any reports by the mainstream media outlets to confirm any of this reporting?

Toocon on July 13, 2014 at 6:40 PM

Americans’ attitudes toward Putin and Russia are nearing all-time lows

This is a meaning less grouping. For fifty years the level of antagonism of almost all Americans toward the USSR and for its most powerful Soviet Republic, Russia, was much worse than it currently is to Russia. The attitude of Americans toward Putin has always been rather neutral in spite of his being a senior officer in one of the intelligence services (I think it is the GRU).

The Ukraine was an essentially powerless SSR many whose people were intentionally starved to death by Stalin.

burt on July 13, 2014 at 7:04 PM

A shell lands near a house and someone dies. Very unlikely. At most you usually have a hole in the field. Lets talk about the killings of Ukrainians in the Eastern Ukraine, the invasion of Crimea, taking of Ukrainian citizens property, and the killing of Ukrainian soldiers before we talk about some mud being disturbed in a field.

leader4hru on July 13, 2014 at 7:12 PM

When was the last time the earth was on fire like this?

The last time we had a weak president.

Nice job, libtards.

Tard on July 13, 2014 at 11:24 PM

Kind of like the Czech’s persecution of ethnic Germans in Sudetenland, eh? All we need is a Chamberlain.

Oh. We have One.

Axeman on July 14, 2014 at 11:05 AM