Afghan interpreters who aided US in danger of being left behind

posted at 11:01 am on July 13, 2014 by Jazz Shaw

Not to start your Sunday off on a sour note, but it appears that events are shaping up in a way which could create yet another problem in Afghanistan as we move toward what is projected to be our complete – or nearly complete- withdrawal from that nation. During our time there, a number of Afghan citizens who were sympathetic to our cause have provided their services as translators so our soldiers could more readily communicate with the locals. As you can imagine, this has made them less than popular with the Taliban and other forces hostile to the American presence.

There was supposed to be plan in place to get these translators out of the nation and back to the United States rather than leaving them in harm’s way. Unfortunately, we seem to be running out of visas.

The cases of thousands of Afghan interpreters who worked with the U.S. military and hope to relocate to the United States are in limbo because the government will soon run out of visas designated for the resettlement program, State Department officials said Thursday.

Worried about the welfare of linguists who are under threat for their affiliation with the U.S. government, State Department officials are asking Congress to allow the issuing of more visas during the remainder of the fiscal year and to extend the Special Immigrant Visa (SIV) program, which is set to expire in September.

About 6,000 applicants are in the pipeline, including about 300 whose cases have reached the final stage of the process. Congress set a cap of 3,000 visas for 2014. The State Department expects to have issued that many visas within days, well ahead of the end of the fiscal year on Sept. 30.

The reasons provided by the State Department for this backlog are varied and frustrating, though in some cases understandable. Some seem blatantly political, such as a worry that there might be a brain drain in the country if we take many of their multilingual citizens out. Others are more reasonable, such as some of the translators being cited as potential security risks. The article also cites one official who infuriatingly makes that claim that the danger to the interpreters was not so dire.

I know that I’m not on the same page as many of you when it comes to our policy in Afghanistan going forward. I supported the mission there, and finally taking out OBL certainly lends a lot of weight to that position. But as far as I’m concerned, the mission is essentially over, we’ve hit a point of diminishing returns and I don’t see that nation turning into a flowering democracy no matter how long we stay. (Not to mention that there seems to be – yet again – a rather appalling lack of gratitude on the part of many of the key players.)

But assuming we’re going to leave, taking care of those locals who helped take care of us would seem to be the bare minimum that we could do. If there are some of them who can be shown to be Taliban collaborators and double agents, then we need to weed those out. But the ones who made an honest effort to help us and wish to exit the country safely certainly deserve a shot at freedom. The administration needs to get on the stick and tackle this problem before the clock runs out, as it has on so many other missed opportunities.


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We screwed our friends in Nam and Iraq.

Why should this be different?/

Remember the libs are in charge.

CW on July 13, 2014 at 11:06 AM

With friends like us who needs enemies.

Why would anyone in the middle east(or elsewhere) trust us with “O” at the helm.

jmtham156 on July 13, 2014 at 11:08 AM

If the Choom Gang thought they could get away with it, they’d leave our guys there, too.

Funny how we can let the gangbangers in, though.

formwiz on July 13, 2014 at 11:09 AM

Democrats, the party of treason.

CrazyGene on July 13, 2014 at 11:10 AM

It’s the right thing to do so of course the filthy bastard obaME! won’t do it.

VegasRick on July 13, 2014 at 11:11 AM

The article also cites one official who infuriatingly makes that claim that the danger to the interpreters was not so dire.

And yet, the danger to those invading our country from the south is!? This is just madness.

Gangs in SA = Mass Amnesty Push
AQ and Terrosits want to kill you = No entrada

I can see possibly some not getting on the security side, but most you would think they would. Our mission there would not have even gotten off the ground had it not been for the interpreters.

Patriot Vet on July 13, 2014 at 11:11 AM

No better friend, no worse enemy…..
until the politicians and assorted REMF’s get involved.
It’s a wonder we can win at anything.

Another Drew on July 13, 2014 at 11:14 AM

A word in their ear – Guatemala, then walk north.

OldEnglish on July 13, 2014 at 11:14 AM

They still have Plan B—catch the northbound express out of Guatemala…

hillsoftx on July 13, 2014 at 11:14 AM

These folks should be on the fast track for immigration.

They are facing a death sentence for helping the US military.

HumpBot Salvation on July 13, 2014 at 11:16 AM

Just ship them to south of the US/Mexico border and they can join the hordes that come in without paperwork – problem solved.

Lucky Pierre on July 13, 2014 at 11:16 AM

Geez, at this point I’ll be surprised if Obama lets our soldiers back. He’s already firing them while they are over there and importing illegals to fill all the jobs. Is this a great country or what?

Cindy Munford on July 13, 2014 at 11:17 AM

Meh. Frankly, I don’t trust any of them. Leave them there. If they have language skills, they might even be more valuable to us as intel assets down the road.

WhatSlushfund on July 13, 2014 at 11:18 AM

Liberal Legacy: leave behind an angry, resentful world for the adults to clean up.

Tard on July 13, 2014 at 11:19 AM

because the government will soon run out of visas

Gimme a damn break. Any of our past 4 Presidents would have signed an executive order waiving the visa requirement and be sending a fleet of planes over there to bring those folks here. Hell, even Carter would’ve known that would be the right thing to do.

Goddammit, I absolutely despise our government sometimes. What ever happened to honor and decency?

Screw security risks. Bring them all here and sort them out once they’re on US soil. As a last resort, fly them all to Tijuana and let em’ walk in with the rest of the damn hordes coming across the southern border.

BacaDog on July 13, 2014 at 11:21 AM

What ever happened to honor and decency?

BacaDog on July 13, 2014 at 11:21 AM

It was voted out in 2008.

VegasRick on July 13, 2014 at 11:23 AM

Just ship them to south of the US/Mexico border and they can join the hordes that come in without paperwork – problem solved.

Lucky Pierre on July 13, 2014 at 11:16 AM

This has already been happening for the last couple of years. But it looks as though those wishing to do us harm are using it at the moment.

Atlanta’s WSB-TV2 aired a segment on U.S. border security after it obtained records from a federal detention center near Phoenix, Ariz., and found current listings for illegal aliens from Afghanistan, Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Pakistan, Sudan and Yemen.

“We have left the back door to the United States open,” former Rep. J.D. Hayworth told the station. “We have to understand that there are definitely people who mean to do us harm who have crossed that border.”

WSB-TV 2 published a population breakdown from an Immigration and Customs Enforcement staging facility in Florence, Ariz., dated April 15, 2010, which includes detainees from as far away as Afghanistan, Armenia, Bosnia, Egypt, Ghana, Iraq, Iran, Jordan, Kenya, Morocco, Pakistan, Sudan, Uzbekistan, Yemen, Botswana, Turkey and many other countries.

Watch the WSB-TV2 two-part investigative report below:
“Other Than Mexicans”: The Terrorist Threat Across Our Border (pt.1)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUMZskX_boY#t=173

“Other Than Mexicans”: The Terrorist Threat Across Our Border (pt.2)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrmxDfmak10

Department of Homeland Security’s 2008 Yearbook of Immigration Studies, from the Office of Immigration Statistics
https://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/statistics/yearbook/2008/ois_yb_2008.pdf

Department of Homeland Security’s 2011 Yearbook of Immigration Studies, from the Office of Immigration Statistics
https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/immigration-statistics/yearbook/2011/ois_yb_2011.pdf

Patriot Vet on July 13, 2014 at 11:25 AM

Any border jumper with a sob story and some MS13 tats can waltz into the U.S., but a guy braving IED’s and the world’s foremost savages has to beg to come here?

This is Vietnam all over again, the modern version of the Hmong being kicked in the face.

Bishop on July 13, 2014 at 11:26 AM

Guess obama is out of minutes on his phone and he lost his pen.

HumpBot Salvation on July 13, 2014 at 11:29 AM

The article also cites one official who infuriatingly makes that claim that the danger to the interpreters was not so dire.

Put the jackwad in a HALO rig and dump him out over Tora Bora, tell him to walk out and then file a report about the “direness” of the dangers for anyone even remotely connected to the U.S.

Bishop on July 13, 2014 at 11:30 AM

Any border jumper with a sob story and some MS13 tats can waltz into the U.S., but a guy braving IED’s and the world’s foremost savages has to beg to come here?

This is Vietnam all over again, the modern version of the Hmong being kicked in the face.

Bishop on July 13, 2014 at 11:26 AM

The Pakistani doctor that helped us kill bin laden is still in jail and we have a war hero Marine in jail in mexico. That’s all we need to know about this filthy rotten administration.

VegasRick on July 13, 2014 at 11:31 AM

Dr. Shakil Afridi waves his hands from Pakistan. Hey, over here! Thanks for all your help Obama.

can_con on July 13, 2014 at 11:32 AM

So Bring them here “undocumented”. What seems to be the big deal. Selective enforcement of the law is Unconstitutional, after all.

Mord on July 13, 2014 at 11:39 AM

I would hope that any emergency supplemental that gets passed in Congress would at least include language to increase the visa numbers.

can_con on July 13, 2014 at 11:40 AM

The ObamaPen has only invisible ink for our friends.

faraway on July 13, 2014 at 11:40 AM

Bishop on July 13, 2014 at 11:26 AM

The Pakistani doctor that helped us kill bin laden is still in jail and we have a war hero Marine in jail in mexico. That’s all we need to know about this filthy rotten administration.

VegasRick on July 13, 2014 at 11:31 AM

Both great comments.

hawkdriver on July 13, 2014 at 11:40 AM

History’s lesson is NEVER work with the US, because when the Dems win back office, they will get you and your family killed.

juliesa on July 13, 2014 at 11:49 AM

Afghan interpreters who aided US in danger of being left behind

…can someone get them to Central America?

JugEarsButtHurt on July 13, 2014 at 11:50 AM

CW bloody spot on in the first post

cmsinaz on July 13, 2014 at 11:50 AM

“They wear little buttons on their shirts saying how much they love everyone, they love everyone, everyone but you.”

“F**k ‘em” as one esteemed leftist once opined, isn’t that right, resident libs?

Bishop on July 13, 2014 at 11:54 AM

“They wear little buttons on their shirts saying how much they love everyone, they love everyone, everyone but you.”

“F**k ‘em” as one esteemed leftist once opined, isn’t that right, resident libs?

Bishop on July 13, 2014 at 11:54 AM

SSG Worchester. Great movie. Lots of truth in it.

hawkdriver on July 13, 2014 at 11:56 AM

Answer is easy. Ship them to the US Mexican border and let them walk in.

AJStrata on July 13, 2014 at 12:00 PM

Vice news has been doing an excellent job reporting on this situation. For anyone who wants to know more should check out vice new The interpreters series now on it’s fifth installment.

https://news.vice.com/topic/asia-pacific

coolrepublica on July 13, 2014 at 12:09 PM

The Dems “caring” is selective. Another thing no one has thought about. What about all those girls our military helped to go to school. They’ll just plain be killed.

crankyoldlady on July 13, 2014 at 12:15 PM

This is Vietnam all over again, the modern version of the Hmong being kicked in the face.

Bishop on July 13, 2014 at 11:26 AM

Well, for the worldwide Communist paradise Caliphate to happen, some Hmong Afghans must be sacrificed <logic_lefty>

Steve Eggleston on July 13, 2014 at 12:20 PM

T

he Dems “caring” is selective. Another thing no one has thought about. What about all those girls our military helped to go to school. They’ll just plain be killed.

crankyoldlady on July 13, 2014 at 12:15 PM

They should all go to the new Kurdistan.

VegasRick on July 13, 2014 at 12:23 PM

If the Choom Gang thought they could get away with it, they’d leave our guys there, too.

Funny how we can let the gangbangers in, though.

formwiz on July 13, 2014 at 11:09 AM

That’s the sad truth about Barry.

slickwillie2001 on July 13, 2014 at 12:27 PM

In Barack Obama’s world, anyone who helps the US military is a traitor to the world. He will happily leave those who helped us behind to face their fates alone.

And yes, I mean exactly what I say about Obama. The man despises our country and everything she stands for. That is why he announced his plan was to fundamentally transform America. What he didn’t say was the he intended to destroy America as she was and re-create her as some kind of socialist paradise imagined in his fever dreams.

novaculus on July 13, 2014 at 12:28 PM

What f_ _ _ing moron is letting this happen? NOW we get technical on immigration rules? I despise the president and every flunky that serves his agenda. On the other hand here is what we do: we secretly fly these folks and their families to Mexico and have them walk across the border. Who needs a border? The libs will welcome them with open arms.

warmairfan on July 13, 2014 at 12:28 PM

I expect nothing less from the scum in the WH who won’t pick up the phone and get our marine out of tacoland.

ultracon on July 13, 2014 at 1:50 PM

Any border jumper with a sob story and some MS13 tats can waltz into the U.S., but a guy braving IED’s and the world’s foremost savages has to beg to come here?

This is Vietnam all over again, the modern version of the Hmong being kicked in the face.

Bishop on July 13, 2014 at 11:26 AM

Damn, you beat me to it.
These interpreters have served us better than our last two secretaries of state and the administration would prefer to bus drug-dealing illegal alien thugs to a neighborhood near you soon.

partsnlabor on July 13, 2014 at 3:22 PM

Well, of course he is.

PersonFromPorlock on July 13, 2014 at 3:56 PM

Afghan interpreters who aided US in danger of being left behind

Montagnards.

Dr. ZhivBlago on July 13, 2014 at 4:13 PM

Just like Viet Nam….Hey in all fairness, dems are baby killers. What is a few Afghans that were more loyal to us than our current bunch of liberal magpies, especially the so called commander in chief (not). oabama and his consortium of devils spawn will ship any excess money to buying abortions and abortifacients for the screaming liberal hags. Broken arrow….broken arrow…..

crosshugger on July 13, 2014 at 4:50 PM

Note to those in countries that we will fight future wars in.

1. The US has lost every war it has fought during the last 50 years.

2. If you help US, thereby labeling yourself as a collaborator to your fellow countrymen, they will want to kill you and your family after we leave.

3. We WILL leave in surrender, and when that happens, we WILL hang you out to dry.

Doesn’t anyone in the world read history books anymore before they risk their lives?

And yes, we DID lose desert storm, it just took us twenty years to reverse the original progress. We will soon see Kuwait fall to ISIS, while Barry the Marxist stutters through speeches on income inequality.

Exninja on July 13, 2014 at 5:46 PM

Exninja on July 13, 2014 at 5:46 PM

In fairness, we didn’t lose the Cold War. (At least not yet — it seems to be starting up again.)

As far as Kuwait falling to ISIS, that wouldn’t be much of a fall.

WhatSlushfund on July 13, 2014 at 6:41 PM

Oh, and with all these comparisons to Vietnam: this is not Vietnam. Two totally different situations. There were some Vietnamese that genuinely helped us, and they should not have been left behind.

Muslims are a totally different story. The last thing we need here are more Afghanis here in the US. Screw them.

This is not Vietnam. Nor is it WW2.

Part of the reason we’re in this mess is because, despite all of the talk of (Donald Rumsfeld cheerleaded) “military modernization in a post-Cold War world,” old dudes on the Right running the Pentagon keep comparing everything to WW2 and Vietnam.

WhatSlushfund on July 13, 2014 at 6:50 PM

Obama’s America: Treacherous as a friend; Harmless as an enemy.

schmuck281 on July 13, 2014 at 9:58 PM

They needn’t worry, Obama wont leave an unstable country that is fertile ground to attack the USA or anything.

V7_Sport on July 13, 2014 at 10:41 PM

Part of the reason we’re in this mess is because, despite all of the talk of (Donald Rumsfeld cheerleaded) “military modernization in a post-Cold War world,” old dudes on the Right running the Pentagon keep comparing everything to WW2 and Vietnam.

WhatSlushfund on July 13, 2014 at 6:50 PM

I thought we were there because subhuman monsters used Afghanistan as a base to do things like fly aircraft full of people into buildings full of people.

V7_Sport on July 13, 2014 at 10:46 PM

V7, common man. I’ve seen your posts on here before, and I know you’re smarter than this.

Seriously, what is the hesitation at HA to talk about this realistically?

I’m guessing it’s a commercial thing.

WhatSlushfund on July 13, 2014 at 11:13 PM

The dumbest thing about it is that HA would probably do better financially if they were just honest about this.

There is no shortage of dumb up the pay chain of any business.

WhatSlushfund on July 13, 2014 at 11:20 PM

Exninja on July 13, 2014 at 5:46 PM

True, but all that didn’t begin with Obama. In spite of the characteristic Obama incompetence and his admin’s general love of Islamic “freedom fighters”, we couldn’t stay in these countries indefinitely. We simply can’t afford it. We really can’t afford to maintain a large military presence elsewhere, either. But I guess that all depends on when Uncle Sam’s credit card is finally maxed out…but that may indeed be nearly infinite-who knows?

In retrospect, I don’t think any of these wars over the last 100 years have served America well in the long term. It’s also becoming questionable if they’ve helped anyone else, either.

But there is a certainty that somewhere, someone is always out to pick a fight with us. I’m not really sure how much of that we can simply shrug off? Still, sometimes it is of our own doing (government policies that is). How could we have been so fervent about defeating Hitler while in essence helping Stalin to stay in power (or Mao for that matter)? Why are certain ‘evil empires’ to be crushed mercilessly while others are actually our allies?

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This is not Vietnam.

WhatSlushfund on July 13, 2014 at 6:50 PM

It sure does seem to walk like a duck, though.

Dr. ZhivBlago on July 14, 2014 at 1:49 AM

Geez, at this point I’ll be surprised if Obama lets our soldiers back. He’s already firing them while they are over there and importing illegals to fill all the jobs. Is this a great country or what?

Cindy Munford on July 13, 2014 at 11:17 AM

This.

KMC1 on July 14, 2014 at 4:07 AM

We screwed our friends in Nam and Iraq.

Why should this be different?/

Remember the libs are in charge.

CW on July 13, 2014 at 11:06 AM

Exactly! CW, you know most of the brain-dead flag waivers here won’t know what you are talking about.

earlgrey on July 14, 2014 at 12:38 PM

Didn’t we do the same thing during the 1st Gulf war? Get people to support us, then hang them out to dry and leave them to Saddam’s tender mercies?

Yeah, pretty sure we did. This is how it works on the foreign stage.

We promise peace and prosperity, and then give up and leave you to the barbarians as we bail.

Feb 1991 who held the House, Senate and purse strings when we pulled out & left Saddam in charge?

Oh yeah… Democrats. GHW Bush went along with it, and we left a “popular uprising” against Saddam to die on the vine.

More of the same here. Eventually people will learn and we’ll have a lot less help when we go overseas.

It’s like “giving up your nukes for a treaty”… we’ve made it quite clear THAT is a horrible option.

gekkobear on July 14, 2014 at 4:32 PM