Poll: Republican voters back immigration reform?

posted at 4:00 pm on July 11, 2014 by Noah Rothman

While immigration reform may not be high on voters’ lists of priorities heading into the 2014 midterms, a new survey of a variety of critical states shows that Americans are predisposed to support efforts to repair the nation’s immigration system.

The Republican firm Harper Polling’s automated survey of between 500 and 855 likely voters in 26 states (Arkansas, Arizona, California, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Illinois, Iowa, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Mississippi, Minnesota, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Virginia, Washington and Wisconsin) shows voters believe the system is broken and in need of repair.

86 percent of self-described Republicans and 79 percent of independents in those 26 states said that the immigration system is in need of fixing. Moreover, 79 percent of Republican respondents said that it was “important” for Congress to act on immigration reform this year. 53 percent of Republicans went a step further, saying that it was “very important.” 71 percent of Republicans said that they would support a candidate who backs immigration reform while only 15 percent of self-identified GOP voters said that they would not support a pro-reform candidate.

In worse news for opponents of immigration reform, voters do not believe that the argument that President Barack Obama would not enforce border security provisions in an immigration bill is a valid reason for opposing reform. 72 percent of all respondents said did not believe that concerns over enforcement of border security was a good reason for rejecting immigration reform, including a majority of Republicans and 69 percent of independents.

The Harper survey found that nearly two-thirds of all voters and 54 percent of self-identified Republicans support a pathway to legal status for illegal immigrants.

For those that think the crisis on the border has cooled Republican support for reform, this survey suggests otherwise. Among voters in Texas where the border crisis has been most acute, 84 percent of Republicans said that it was critical for Congress to reform the immigration system this year.

Half of Texas Republicans said they supported the “immigration standards” set by House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH), which would include increased border security and expanding visas for high-skilled workers and farm laborers. 40 percent of Texas Republicans, however, said that all illegal immigrants should be deported.

These results are similar to those in a nonpartisan survey conducted in June by the Public Religion Research Institute and the Brookings Institution. In that survey, 62 percent of all respondents supported a pathway to citizenship for illegal immigrants living in the United States. Only 17 percent indicated support for legal status for illegal immigrants short of citizenship.

That poll did, however, identify a divide between Republicans – a majority of whom support immigration reform – and those who identify with the tea party. Only 37 percent of tea party conservative respondents said they support a pathway to citizenship for undocumented migrants.

The results of this Harper survey are shocking insofar as they do not appear to reflect the sentiments of the political commentariat. Analysts on the left and the right have proclaimed that the crisis on the border has eliminated the potential that an immigration reform bill will be passed by Congress this year.

June’s Brookings Institute poll provides a clue, however, as to why immigration reform will not pass the Congress anytime soon. According to that survey, 86 percent of tea party conservatives also said they were “certain” to vote in November.

The Harper survey was conducted for the Partnership for a New American Economy, the Business Roundtable, and the National Association of Manufacturers from June 22 to July 3 and has margins of error ranging from 4.0 to 4.38 percent.


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The Harper survey was conducted for the Partnership for a New American Economy, the Business Roundtable, and the National Association of Manufacturers…

Hmmm…all avid supporters of amnesty. What a shock that the poll they funded supports their position. What are the odds? /

rcpjr on July 11, 2014 at 4:04 PM

Given the old lieberal adage that Republican == Big Business is finally true, and Big Business (or at least the US Chamber of Commerce portion thereof) wants amnesty along with a continued lack of enforcement of the southwest border,….

Steve Eggleston on July 11, 2014 at 4:04 PM

The only question I have is why Mr. Rothman ended his headline with a question mark instead of an exclamation point. Methinks he is an establishment kind of guy.

KickandSwimMom on July 11, 2014 at 4:05 PM

gopE Propaganda!

Jayrae on July 11, 2014 at 4:05 PM

Define “immigration reform.”

BuckeyeSam on July 11, 2014 at 4:05 PM

Sorry Noah not buying it.

cat_owner on July 11, 2014 at 4:06 PM

Hmmm…all avid supporters of amnesty. What a shock that the poll they funded supports their position. What are the odds? /

rcpjr on July 11, 2014 at 4:04 PM

If this were AoSHQ, I’d sock a response something like the following:

About 100,000-1 against.

-Zombie Jimmy the Greek

Steve Eggleston on July 11, 2014 at 4:06 PM

Republican voters back immigration reform?

I certainly do, I want the borders totally shut down and a fence build. I want the H1B program curtailed as well. Yes I would reform.

whbates on July 11, 2014 at 4:06 PM

I get the feeling this is what the HotAir staff looks like when a new poll comes in:

Airplane! Phone Booth

reddevil on July 11, 2014 at 4:06 PM

Noah, How do you come to your conclusions? I’m surprised 100% of people don’t back reform. They are doing nothing now. People are not opponents of immigration “reform” they are opponents of amnesty for those who came here illegally. I doubt you will see majority, or anywhere near it, support for amnesty in any poll but that isn’t what they are asking now is it?

Rocks on July 11, 2014 at 4:06 PM

I know that there are a bunch of bs polls that are designed by amnesty pushers to mislead us. They skew samples or most importantly talk about an ambiguous “immigration reform” but not specifically open borders and amnesty. And the biggest pusher of these false polls is Fox News.

Republicans are against ammnesty.
In huge numbers.
Period.
ASK ERIC CANTOR.

anotherJoe on July 11, 2014 at 4:06 PM

What a surprise that Noah Rothman is trolling conservatives with a worthless poll like this.

Bitter Clinger on July 11, 2014 at 4:07 PM

Poll: Republican voters back immigration reform?

Now ask them if they want amnesty.

Stoic Patriot on July 11, 2014 at 4:07 PM

The only question I have is why Mr. Rothman ended his headline with a question mark instead of an exclamation point. Methinks he is an establishment kind of guy.

KickandSwimMom on July 11, 2014 at 4:05 PM

You mean he’s not a ‘Conservative’? Darn, I’ve been hoodwinked again!

reddevil on July 11, 2014 at 4:08 PM

People like NM’s pro-amnesty Gov Martinez give away part of the game that pro-amnesty Republicans are playing. They are avoiding the word “amnesty” (in favor of vague, positive sounding terms like “reform”) and are even denying that they are for amnesty.

http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/politics/2012/11/16/susana-martinez-mitt-romney-comments/

The governor [Martinez] also said she hopes the party can change their tone, eliminating words like “amnesty” from the debate.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/83960_Page2.html

After chatting with Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer a few minutes before, she [Martinez] said that Arizona’s restrictive immigration law is not the type she would implement in her state.
“And it can be tackled without using the word amnesty,” she said. “People can be in this country legally and contributing, and they can come here to do all kinds of jobs, not just jobs Americans don’t want, all kinds of jobs, get educated, the whole nine yards, but be here legally. And there’s a variety of ways of receiving that kind of status.”

bluegill on July 11, 2014 at 4:08 PM

Enjoy your plagues and death panels, useful idiots.

S. D. on July 11, 2014 at 4:08 PM

What a surprise that Noah Rothman is trolling conservatives with a worthless poll like this.

Bitter Clinger on July 11, 2014 at 4:07 PM

Isn’t that why HotAir brought him on?

reddevil on July 11, 2014 at 4:09 PM

The only question I have is why Mr. Rothman ended his headline with a question mark instead of an exclamation point. Methinks he is an establishment kind of guy.

KickandSwimMom on July 11, 2014 at 4:05 PM

#BringBackErika

Bitter Clinger on July 11, 2014 at 4:09 PM

“Is AllahP the only HotGas blogger that isn’t a total amnesty shill?”

Slash rhetorical.

Jedditelol on July 11, 2014 at 4:09 PM

Hot air is going to go defcon 1 on survey.

coolrepublica on July 11, 2014 at 4:09 PM

Agree with the others, a total bs poll created by amnesty shills. Eric Cantor can happily ascend to the Speakership thanks to this poll.

chadlands on July 11, 2014 at 4:09 PM

A poll with that big a margin of error is useless.

huckleberryfriend on July 11, 2014 at 4:10 PM

What a surprise that Noah Rothman is trolling conservatives with a worthless poll like this.

Bitter Clinger on July 11, 2014 at 4:07 PM

Isn’t that why HotAir brought him on?

reddevil on July 11, 2014 at 4:09 PM

Apparently.

Bitter Clinger on July 11, 2014 at 4:10 PM

Steve Eggleston on July 11, 2014 at 4:06 PM

+1

Athos on July 11, 2014 at 4:10 PM

Sorry Noah. You are completely wrong here – in fact so wrong that I could rightly accuse you of being a troll.

Everyone admits the current system is broken. What do they want? They want the border secured and the laws followed. Any survey asking those things has found this to be the overwhelming majority position – even among legally immigrated hispanics.

Ed – I think you need to have a talk with your guy here. This is a complete joke.

Zomcon JEM on July 11, 2014 at 4:11 PM

This is who HotAir chose as its newest blogger? Does it get better than this?

VIDEO: Pro-illegal alien amnesty Noah Rothman claims that amnesty is something a “principled” conservative would support (Skip to after 6:00 mark)

bluegill on July 11, 2014 at 4:11 PM

Poll: Republican voters back immigration reform?

Fortunately, there are fewer and fewer of these.

Axe on July 11, 2014 at 4:12 PM

He wont address the fact that reform would mean closing the borders at this point…what a terrible article…is it possible he does not understand how wrong he is?

Redstone357 on July 11, 2014 at 4:13 PM

The Harper survey was conducted for the Partnership for a New American Economy, the Business Roundtable, and the National Association of Manufacturers from June 22 to July 3 and has margins of error ranging from 4.0 to 4.38 percent.

LOL. Might as well been commissioned by La Raza. Here is some history of Harper Polling. It was started by a guy who comes right out of the GOP establishment.

http://www.politico.com/story/2012/12/new-gop-polling-firm-goal-catch-up-with-dems-85273.html

Mark1971 on July 11, 2014 at 4:13 PM

Bullsheet. Enforce existing law and secure the border.

B-Ri on July 11, 2014 at 4:13 PM

Apparently they’re polling voters who don’t vote. If you support some sort of amnesty your numbers tank, ask Marco Rubio.

Maxpower on July 11, 2014 at 4:13 PM

What a surprise that Noah Rothman is trolling conservatives with a worthless poll like this.

Bitter Clinger on July 11, 2014 at 4:07 PM

yah, every time old Noah posts a thread I’m wishing he thinks he made a mistake taking this gig with HA and runs back to the loving arms of MSNBC. Sweet dreams.

gracie on July 11, 2014 at 4:15 PM

This is who HotAir chose as its newest blogger? Does it get better than this?

VIDEO: Pro-illegal alien amnesty Noah Rothman claims that amnesty is something a “principled” conservative would support (Skip to after 6:00 mark)

bluegill on July 11, 2014 at 4:11 PM

Was that a HotAir choice or did that come from Salem?

reddevil on July 11, 2014 at 4:15 PM

I feel like the kid at the end of Shane, but I’m yelling for Erika to come back.

Mark1971 on July 11, 2014 at 4:15 PM

FIRST just secure the border! Please. Secure the damn border! Put a stop to this crap.

otlset on July 11, 2014 at 4:16 PM

Why do amnesty supporters have to resort to weasel words? That is the real question.

DisneyFan on July 11, 2014 at 4:16 PM

Sorry Noah not buying it.

cat_owner on July 11, 2014 at 4:06 PM

He’s probably on Twitter, telling everyone what a knuckle-dragging wingnut you are.

Ward Cleaver on July 11, 2014 at 4:16 PM

Illegal aliens are pouring over the boarder at near record levels.

Question, do you think the immigration system is working right now?
No?
Does that mean you would support changes to make it work?
Yes.

Missing from this is what are the changes.
The fact that the reason the system is failing is because of internal sabotage, not the laws themselves. Do you support forcing the government to faithfully enforce the laws on the books?
YES! and that there is the REFORM that needs to take place.

Build the law required fences.
Man the fences and the empty areas.
Catch and deport aliens.
Workplace enforcement.
These are all on the books!

astonerii on July 11, 2014 at 4:16 PM

I have been disgusted to see supposed conservative media allies, including bloggers at this site, avoid using the term “illegal alien amnesty.” Instead we get vague and even positive sounding terms like “immigration reform.”

There is an effort to blur the line between legal and illegal illegal immigration.

Most Americans oppose illegal alien amnesty. Don’t let anyone tell you that there is a strong desire out there among voters for amnesty or that immigration law enforcement is merely a concern of the conservative “base.”

That’s why pro-amnesty supporters have to lie to voters, hide their true intentions and pay for ads like this:
VIDEO: http://youtu.be/ecrUDjMlf5s. (Gives impression Graham and Rubio are for getting “tough” on illegal aliens)

And here’s a Mark Zuckerberg-funded, fake “conservative” ad that tries to trick voters into thinking the Republican sellout amnesty proposal was what was needed to “get tough” on illegals:
VIDEO: http://youtu.be/l9XRF_kqIN4

The Chamber of Commerce and others are putting a lot of money towards trying to convince conservatives that these amnesty efforts are the opposite of what they are.

bluegill on July 11, 2014 at 4:16 PM

Asking people if they want reform is pointless. You have to figure out what they want that reform to be. Anything else is just stupid. Time and again when asked specifically, the majority of people want the border protected and laws enforced.

Othniel on July 11, 2014 at 4:16 PM

The poll is so fundamentally flawed that the only information it imparts is the criminal negligence of the pollster.

Immolate on July 11, 2014 at 4:16 PM

Well, a poll, that settles it then….Amnesty it is?

d1carter on July 11, 2014 at 4:16 PM

Noah might also want to take a look at this.

On marijuana, the single most popular positions was full legalization. On immigration, it was “the immediate roundup and deportation of all undocumented immigrants and an outright moratorium on all immigration until the border is proven secure.”

Stoic Patriot on July 11, 2014 at 4:17 PM

BS! Send all illegal aliens back…………..

nobama1267 on July 11, 2014 at 4:17 PM

Poll taken at local Chamber of Commerce offices…?

d1carter on July 11, 2014 at 4:18 PM

Define “immigration reform.”

BuckeyeSam on July 11, 2014 at 4:05 PM

Exactly.

blammm on July 11, 2014 at 4:18 PM

I feel like the kid at the end of Shane, but I’m yelling for Erika to come back.

Mark1971 on July 11, 2014 at 4:15 PM

#BringBackErika

Bitter Clinger on July 11, 2014 at 4:18 PM

And btw it’s not just Republicans that are against amnesty, it’s huge numbers of Independents and Reagan Democrats. Take amnesty off the table (by passing it) and we will NOT gain Hispanic votes (we didn’t after the 1986 amnesty, we lost Hispanic votes actually), but our white vote, strengthened by a overwhelming anti-amnesty sentiment, would take a major hit without amnesty as an issue. It’s not a “toxic” issue for us. Keep amnesty as an issue alive, or many whites will find aspects of the GOP that they don’t like to be more salient than amnesty, and vote Democratic. What I’m saying is that our vital white vote would drop dramatically if amnesty wasn’t a ballot box positive for us. Stop falling for the politically correct mush pushed by the liberals and Boehner.

anotherJoe on July 11, 2014 at 4:19 PM

What a surprise that Noah Rothman is trolling conservatives with a worthless poll like this.

Bitter Clinger on July 11, 2014 at 4:07 PM

Isn’t that why HotAir brought him on?

reddevil on July 11, 2014 at 4:09 PM

Apparently.

Bitter Clinger on July 11, 2014 at 4:10 PM


He’s even less interesting on Twitter

Noah Rothman ‏@NoahCRothman · 29m

Remember: “missile defense too dangerous to stability.” After a brief “it can’t work” stint, it’s back. http://www.haaretz.com/blogs/eyes-wide-open/.premium-1.604393

Noah Rothman ‏@NoahCRothman · 29m

But does the Iron Dome enable a first strike, thus precipitating missile barrages from Gaza? I’m available for comment.

PolAgnostic on July 11, 2014 at 4:19 PM

Half of Texas Republicans said they supported the “immigration standards” set by House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH), which would include increased border security and expanding visas for high-skilled workers and farm laborers. 40 percent of Texas Republicans, however, said that all illegal immigrants should be deported.

Shocking.
Half of TX Republicans live north of Austin, and 40% of TX Republicans live south of Austin.
Need to start shipping the illegals to the north–northeast in particular, Boehners town in OH, Pelosi’s city in CA, all of NY, and flood Chicago and Boston with them. Then we’ll see how badly these LIV’s–Democrat AND Republican–want to “reform” the system and provide a pathway to citizenship.
What the heck–why not send them all to Detroit and let them rebuild the city.

leftamark on July 11, 2014 at 4:20 PM

If by reform, you mean machine gun towers,spot lights and concertina wire, count me in.

SMACKRUNNER on July 11, 2014 at 4:20 PM

How childish.

Noah, you’re treating us hotair readers like we are a bunch of sheep who can’t think for ourselves. You’re better than that.

Baggi on July 11, 2014 at 4:21 PM

Of course they back immigration reform. You usually reform something that isn’t working. But in this case what’s not working is that our laws aren’t being enforced. That’s what people want to see. Our laws enforced.

Heck, at this point, I’d take our laws not being enforced over our laws being deliberately broken by the person tasked with enforcing them.

ConDem on July 11, 2014 at 4:22 PM

Once again, so god-damn dishonest.

Reforming immigration laws and amnesty are two different things.

But, we can’t expect anyone to be honest about this, can we Noah?

After all Noah, you are never honest about anything.

Why do you work here? Don’t you have any moral compass?

I would not work for liberal organization pretending I was liberal while attempting to undermine it because I would feel dirty taking their money and being so dishonest.

but, we cannot expect anything better from you, can we Noah?

America – the land of people with no morals whatsoever.

I’m sure that the poll in question asked the question thusly:

“Do you support granting immediate legal status to 20 million low-skilled, un-educated illegal aliens” and those majorities you quote so smugly responded “why yes, I support that”.

but again, we can’t expect honesty from you, can we Noah. Only lies, deception, and muddle “thinking”.

Monkeytoe on July 11, 2014 at 4:22 PM

You know… if everyone doesn’t want Noah at HA, then just stop commenting on his submissions.

Eventually, management will get the hint.

Nineball on July 11, 2014 at 4:23 PM

The answer to border security is ED209. You have ten seconds to comply.

Immolate on July 11, 2014 at 4:23 PM

voters do not believe that the argument that President Barack Obama would not enforce border security provisions in an immigration bill is a valid reason for opposing reform.

You will note that they did NOT say they believed the President WOULD enforce border security provisions.

That alone SPEAKS VOLUMES.

GarandFan on July 11, 2014 at 4:23 PM

If by reform, you mean machine gun towers,spot lights and concertina wire, count me in.

SMACKRUNNER on July 11, 2014 at 4:20 PM

I’d be all for Obama’s joke about moats and alligators. Don’t need that many Border Patrol agents when you’re using gators and the gators won’t unionize.

Bitter Clinger on July 11, 2014 at 4:23 PM

Good God! The word “reform” can mean anything.

This reminds me of those polls that show 90% of America is cool with “gun control”, or 90% of Muslims don’t like “radicals”…

With such open ended terms it is all in the eye of the beholder what “reform” means. I want to reform the immigration system too, but I guarantee my idea of reform is not what Obama’s is.

This is why I am now advocating all conservatives to stop using the phrase “small government” and replace it with “reformed government”.

William Eaton on July 11, 2014 at 4:24 PM

How childish.

Noah, you’re treating us hotair readers like we are a bunch of sheep who can’t think for ourselves. You’re better than that.

Baggi on July 11, 2014 at 4:21 PM

I’m not so sure he is.

Bitter Clinger on July 11, 2014 at 4:25 PM

He’s probably on Twitter, telling everyone what a knuckle-dragging wingnut you are.
Ward Cleaver on July 11, 2014 at 4:16 PM

Recently on Twitter Noah Rothman labeled as “valuable” commentary an article which suggested racism was common in the HotAir comment section. And it quoted examples of anti-amnesty comments here as supposed proof of how horrible conservative HotAir readers supposedly are:

https://twitter.com/noahcrothman/status/487057831821320192

And previously Noah Rothman joked with his liberal friends on Twitter about how HotAir commenters probably aren’t tech savvy enough for Twitter.

This is who we got in exchange for Erika?

Michelle Malkin sure is missed at this site.

bluegill on July 11, 2014 at 4:25 PM

Hey you dumb hicks…Noah Rothman doesn’t support amnesty.

He supports immigration reform with a path to citizenship.

Tom Benson ‏@TamOBedlam

@NoahCRothman Find me conservatives who are pro-amnesty, pro-separation of church and state, pro-gay-marriage, and pro-choice.

11:34 AM – 19 Jun 2014

Noah Rothman ‏@NoahCRothman
@TamOBedlam I’m all of the above, though no one — outside of Daily Kos threads — are in favor of “amnesty.” Reform w citizenship path, yes

11:44 AM – 19 Jun 2014

sauldalinsky on July 11, 2014 at 4:25 PM

Could we all please quit using the term AMNESTY in an improper way? I agree we shouldn’t have amnesty, as it is defined, I just think we have over used and bastardize the term to where it may not mean what it should.

Tater Salad on July 11, 2014 at 4:25 PM

Uh, then why is obama’s favorite GOPe AMNESTY boy, Marco Rubio, polling so poorly among Republican VOTERS?

I know that Hot Air, and especially Rothman are desperate to prop up their pro-AMNESTY agenda, but, this is ridiculous.

The answer is No. Republican voters do not support “immigration reform”, aka, AMNESTY.

Pork-Chop on July 11, 2014 at 4:26 PM

Worthless. “Immigration reform” could mean everything from giving them milk, cookies, handshakes, and green cards as they walk across the border to “ship ‘em all back.” Someone define the damn term first, please.

dorkintheroad on July 11, 2014 at 4:26 PM

Yeah yeah, we get it. All this outrage being expressed, buses being blocked, etc, is happening because republicans want amnesty. How did we not figure this our sooner?

xblade on July 11, 2014 at 4:26 PM

In all seriousness

Why do you people believe that the United States is not allowed to have borders?

You cannot claim to love the U.S., or support its Constitution, if you believe we are not entitled to borders.

I again state, the only way to resolve differences with people like Noah is through true civil war and bloodshed.

We cannot make compromises on these things. Such compromises are the end of America.

Only through bloodshed and getting rid of liberals will America recover any sanity.

I would have no problem taking up arms against people that think like Noah. they are enemies of freedom and democracy. Enemies of America. Enemies of liberty. Enemies of prosperity. Everything they stand for is anti-American, anti-freedom, anti-prosperity.

You cannot have a civil/political compromise with such people. They will always work toward ending America and ending freedom, because they hate both things.

Monkeytoe on July 11, 2014 at 4:27 PM

Come on Noah – until the poll goes beyond generic phrasing – and specifically provides a selection of reform ideas – this poll proves nothing.

I’m not bothering with this writer anymore.

Hill60 on July 11, 2014 at 4:27 PM

Why do amnesty shills like Rothman play this silly game? You look like an idiot. Your purposeful obtuseness is anything but cute.

I support immigration reform. I want the law and the executive branch reformed to favor security over amnesty. I want a law that demands measurable enforcement before we start talking about what to do with illegals that currently reside in the United States.

Quite frankly I have no more patience for amnesty shills, and their insistence on trying to portray those of us who favor security first as anti-immigration. You can go Fluke yourself. Being for immigration reform does not mean being for amnesty.

NotCoach on July 11, 2014 at 4:28 PM

If by reform, you mean machine gun towers,spot lights and concertina wire, count me in.

SMACKRUNNER on July 11, 2014 at 4:20 PM

+1000

leftamark on July 11, 2014 at 4:29 PM

Could we all please quit using the term AMNESTY in an improper way? I agree we shouldn’t have amnesty, as it is defined, I just think we have over used and bastardize the term to where it may not mean what it should.

Tater Salad

No one is using it in an improper way except maybe you. The word matters, and there’s a reason they run from it like a rabid dog.

xblade on July 11, 2014 at 4:29 PM

Pollsters? I, like most people, have never seen a pollster

– Thomas Sowell

Hat Trick on July 11, 2014 at 4:30 PM

sauldalinsky on July 11, 2014 at 4:25 PM

Same difference. At the end of the day 99% of illegals will gain citizenship, and nothing will be done to secure the border.

NotCoach on July 11, 2014 at 4:31 PM

Polls like this are idiotic. They take a response like “Send them back home and let them get in line to apply like everyone else” and count that as a “path to citizenship” no matter how remote or circuitous.

CapnObvious on July 11, 2014 at 4:31 PM

Could we all please quit using the term AMNESTY in an improper way? I agree we shouldn’t have amnesty, as it is defined, I just think we have over used and bastardize the term to where it may not mean what it should.

Tater Salad on July 11, 2014 at 4:25 PM

I think we all know that it means giving legal status to illegal aliens. And most of us oppose that.

Bitter Clinger on July 11, 2014 at 4:32 PM

Moreover, 79 percent of Republican respondents said that it was “important” for Congress to act on immigration reform this year.

Throwing out illegals, getting more border protections, and reinforcing existing borders is considered immigration reform, doesn’t it?

portlandon on July 11, 2014 at 4:32 PM

As a Texan, I can assure you that Texans are quite pissed right now. We want the damned border fence built and patrolled by armed personnel.

We will consider altering immigration policy/procedures ONLY after the border is secure and existing law is enforced. Nothing short of that is acceptable.

I don’t care how many slanted/targeted bogus polls y’all trot out. There will be no movement towards immigration reform with the willing cooperation of Texas until the flow of illegals is stopped.

Period.

bimmcorp on July 11, 2014 at 4:32 PM

Question to the commentariat: why didn’t Obama amnestethize the illegals when he had both houses of Congress?

Immolate on July 11, 2014 at 4:33 PM

No one is using it in an improper way except maybe you. The word matters, and there’s a reason they run from it like a rabid dog.

xblade on July 11, 2014 at 4:29 PM

I don’t use the word, because I haven’t seen a GOP bill that has actually offered amnesty. Yes, some have been far lenient on penalties for breaking our immigration laws should be, but by definition it isn’t amnesty unless you just ignore all penalties and declare them legal

Tater Salad on July 11, 2014 at 4:33 PM

Hey Noah…I know you and I have a completely different approach to handling the Iraqi situation. You want the U.S. to get involved and I would prefer to see the lunatics kill each other (BTW: you see ISIS wants to destroy Mecca)…but we can both agree Iraq should be “reformed”…LOL….

We need to reform immigration…reform love…reform kitten rights…

Without out a doubt the word “reform” is the most open ended phrase in American politics today. You can get 90% of America to agree on reform of almost anything if you ask the question right, but that does not mean they agree, or are even on the same planet of what that reform means.

William Eaton on July 11, 2014 at 4:33 PM

What Mr. Mediaite Matters doesn’t mention is that NO Republican is for a path to citizenship without the border being secured first. That’s a difference maker that propagandists leave out. Every poll I’ve seen which has a majority of R’s supporting a pathway is contingent on the border being secured first.

AmeriCuda on July 11, 2014 at 4:33 PM

PolAgnostic on July 11, 2014 at 4:19 PM

I’m still waiting to see any evidence of Rothman’s great analytical ability. Rothman has already declared himself a liberal who is pro-abortion, pro-amnesty, pro-gay marriage, etc.

Rothman has none of Allahpundit’s writing skill or talent for humor. 90% of Rothman’s posts are straight play-by-play commentary of MSNBC clips, with little original analysis or criticism of the content.

And now his using this site, founded by the great Michelle Malkin, as a way to promote amnesty is very disappointing.

bluegill on July 11, 2014 at 4:34 PM

And I have bridge to sell ya..:)

idesign on July 11, 2014 at 4:34 PM

Business groups have spent at least $1.5 billion since 2008 pushing for increased immigration, and routinely insist that the public supports their version of comprehensive immigration reform.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2014/06/29/gallup-shows-obama-wrong-about-immigration/#ixzz37C4eS0OY

When the author of a story becomes the story…they’re doing it wrong.

lynncgb on July 11, 2014 at 4:34 PM

I consider “amnesty” to be sending illegals back to their home country without making them do prison time first.

Immolate on July 11, 2014 at 4:35 PM

Reform =/= amnesty

Karmashock on July 11, 2014 at 4:36 PM

Define “immigration reform.”

BuckeyeSam on July 11, 2014 at 4:05 PM

I don’t think that many understand that term’s a euphemism for amnesty and even more immigration from south of the border.

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Given the old lieberal adage that Republican == Big Business is finally true, and Big Business (or at least the US Chamber of Commerce portion thereof) wants amnesty along with a continued lack of enforcement of the southwest border,….

Steve Eggleston on July 11, 2014 at 4:04 PM

True. I’ll take it one step further: when capitalism no longer benefits me, I’ll have no reason to support it…especially if it harms me.

The fact that capitalism has benefited the vast majority of us for most of our history, I think, has been purely coincidental. Part of capitalism is to get bigger, more powerful and more profitable. But that eventually leads to less competition and a breakdown of the free enterprise system that made that level of success possible in the first place.

Also, the fact that increased automation and cheap labor has benefited us has also been coincidental. There is no immutable law of physics that says that what worked in the past simply must work forever.

Dr. ZhivBlago on July 11, 2014 at 4:36 PM

Sure we are. Repeal the Dream Act which was not passed by Congress anyway, lock down the border using whatever means available, put a limit on the number of people allowed in from each country, and chip those already here so we can keep track of them.

Kissmygrits on July 11, 2014 at 4:36 PM

I call B S !!!

Lew in Colorado on July 11, 2014 at 4:36 PM

This is exactly the kind of polling that Eric Cantor relied upon. Where did it get him?

Esaus Message on July 11, 2014 at 4:37 PM

It’s so obvious republicans are desperate for amnesty. Boehner not passing it in the House has merely been an oversight.

xblade on July 11, 2014 at 4:37 PM

Your mileage ‘reform’ may vary…

Resist We Much on July 11, 2014 at 4:38 PM

Hey you dumb hicks…Noah Rothman doesn’t support amnesty.
He supports immigration reform with a path to citizenship.

Tom Benson ‏@TamOBedlam
@NoahCRothman Find me conservatives who are pro-amnesty, pro-separation of church and state, pro-gay-marriage, and pro-choice.
11:34 AM – 19 Jun 2014

Noah Rothman ‏@NoahCRothman
@TamOBedlam I’m all of the above, though no one — outside of Daily Kos threads — are in favor of “amnesty.” Reform w citizenship path, yes
11:44 AM – 19 Jun 2014

sauldalinsky on July 11, 2014 at 4:25 PM

Yep! And Marco Rubio, John McCain, Graham and Obama also claim they’re not for amnesty.

bluegill on July 11, 2014 at 4:38 PM

Dr. ZhivBlago on July 11, 2014 at 4:36 PM

So what do you want to replace it with?

Further, you forgot the other side of capitalism, the constant creation of new competition to replace what no longer works and drive the old guard to new and better things. Since we don’t have that anymore, what we have is corporatism, not capitalism.

Steve Eggleston on July 11, 2014 at 4:40 PM

Call us Noah when they do a poll specifically on the word “amnesty” instead of the word “reform.”

BKennedy on July 11, 2014 at 4:40 PM

That the RINO go along’s and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce are all down with wage slaves is not news nor a surprise.

Not unexpected at all, known now for 30 years or more, in fact known to U.S. your whole life Noah.

Now as to the results of “scouts” from the tribe showing the way to the camps of the camps (homes) of the others of the nation (tribe)that is a whole other thing too.

The scouts sold out for a few trinkets in the 1600′s, 1700′s and part of the 1800′s and the Apache Nation (tribes) lost their lands, gold, and 70% were killed off in the process.

Now you have greed and evil lust in incest with the gold diggers,,,
open borders and “scouts” once more.

May be your an unknowing scout, the results to the tribe (nation) is the same.

You do not see yourself as a cause of death but a cause of death you in fact are.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on July 11, 2014 at 4:41 PM

NotCoach on July 11, 2014 at 4:28 PM

Well said.

But I will go one step further, any inclusion of a path to citizenship for those who entered or remained in the US illegally is a massive disservice to the millions who followed the law / rules and did so legally.

If they desire a path towards citizenship, it has to include returning to their native country and getting in the back of the line. Otherwise, they can gain temporary and limited worker status in exchange for paying a fine / back taxes / foregoing most entitlements.

I want a law that demands measurable enforcement before we start talking about what to do with illegals that currently reside in the United States.

Unless any reform clearly, concisely, and totally addresses enforcement – we’re not fixing the problem. We’re just kicking the can down the road a little further and ultimately making it much much worse.

Athos on July 11, 2014 at 4:41 PM

This is exactly the kind of polling that Eric Cantor relied upon. Where did it get him?

Esaus Message on July 11, 2014 at 4:37 PM

No, no, no. Didn’t you hear? The powers-that-be at Hot Air told us that Eric Cantor’s landslide loss had absolutely NOTHING to do with his 24/7 AMNESTY push.

Pork-Chop on July 11, 2014 at 4:43 PM

Another heaping of bull****.

When one of these organizations of pushing bull**** onto a low information nation starts polling specific policies, get back to me. Only bull**** artists and frauds use the term “immigration reform.”

MNHawk on July 11, 2014 at 4:44 PM

Who is up for a little GOP reformation?

:)

William Eaton on July 11, 2014 at 4:44 PM

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