Obama’s pathetic border crisis blame shifting

posted at 9:21 am on July 10, 2014 by Noah Rothman

President Barack Obama really wants you to know that Republicans share the blame for the ongoing crisis at the border. In fact, he spent the majority of his address on the border crisis on Wednesday not discussing the border crisis, per se, but the variety of ways in which his administration should not be faulted for this disaster.

After noting that he did take the time out of his fundraising schedule for a closed-door meeting with Texas Gov. Rick Perry, a concession of regal magnanimity upon which we must reflect in gratitude, Obama noted that he is at least open to taking emergency steps to stem the wave of illegal, unaccompanied migrant children crossing the border. But not, however, until Congress shares some responsibility for this crisis and passes a supplemental $3.7 billion request.

“Yesterday, I asked Congress…” “Congress has the capacity right now…” “The challenge is, is Congress prepared to act?”

No, the challenge is not Congress. The challenge is on the border, where the president has steadfastly refused to go so as not to be too intimately associated with this crisis.

“Are folks more interested in politics or are they more interested in solving the problem?” Obama said he asked the Texas governor. “If they are interested in solving the problem then this can be solved. If the preference is for politics then it won’t be solved.”

What a tired act. Obama is the honest broker, and all his opponents are cynical and self-interested. It would be laughable but for the fact that so few in the political press seem find it funny.

Of course, a supplemental spending package will have to be passed in order to fund augmented processing, deportations, and, as Obama said he might consider, National Guard deployments. If it is a crisis, and it is, then the executive branch does not wait for Congress to pass funding before it acts. It is beyond insulting to suggest that emergency supplemental funding is a precondition for a response to an emergency.

When the political concerns merit it, as they did in the wake of Hurricane Sandy in October of an election year, 2,800 National Guard troops were immediately dispatched to the affected areas in the Northeast. The contentious issue of funding for that effort came later, as it always has and always should.

When the president was not haranguing Congress to pass his requested supplemental package to deal with this crisis last night, he was berating them for not passing the Senate’s comprehensive immigration reform bill.

“It would be useful for my Republican friends to rediscover the concept of negotiation and compromise,” the president later said. “If I sponsored a bill declaring apple pie American, it might fall victim to partisan politics.”

If you were even a little unclear on the fact that Obama wants as much political distance from this crisis as possible, he made in precisely clear when asked a question about whether he objected to any of Perry’s emergency proposals. Beyond the fact that Perry wanted him to act “without Congress doing anything,” the president said he did not.

How is this language in any way distinct from Obama’s stump speeches, like the one he delivered in Colorado just hours before this presser? “These days, basic common sense ideas cannot get through Congress,” the president told an audience of supporters in Colorado on Tuesday. “If Congress won’t act, I will.”

Obama happily revs up his supporters by touting his omnipotence when it is convenient, but plays the constitutionally constrained republican consul when a politically inconvenient crisis demands his attention. What theater.

“This isn’t theater,” Obama scolded me. “This is a problem.”

“I’m not interested in photo ops,” the president vamped near the conclusion of his news conference. “I’m interested in solving a problem.”

This statement coming from a president who is anything but camera shy earned Obama deserved mockery from the commentariat, but the substance of Obama’s statement last night – that Congress is as much to blame as his administration’s negligence – was not dismissed by the members of the political press as it should have been.

“I think that the problem here is not that it’s a political question, it’s also a moral question,” oozed Bloomberg News’ Lisa Lerner on CNN. “I think you really saw that come out in the president’s remarks yesterday. He looked tired. He looked stressed. And that’s because he’s sort of caught between what he can do politically – which is basically, he has to send these kids home – and what he is thinking morally.”

Amazing how this weighty moral conundrum has not compelled our most sympathetic figure to see the humanity on the border for himself. Perhaps we should be thankful he did not. We can’t have our commander-in-chief succumbing to the depth of his emotional response to this crisis.

New York Times reporter Jonathan Martin noted accurately that the president was “shrewd” to meet with Perry and use him as a tool to pressure Republicans in Washington to act on this border crisis as well. That he did not then observe that this is an obvious attempt by Obama to create some political distance between him and the situation on the Rio Grande was vexing.

Even CNN’s John King let the veil slip a bit when he remarked that at least one Republican, Glenn Beck, has responded to the crisis at the border by launching a charity initiative. “We can laugh about that, but they are children,” he said. Why on earth would you “laugh” at giving parentless refugee minors food and toys? Why would that thought even enter your head?

The media’s reaction to this crisis in general has been irksome. Democratic members of Congress, from Rep. Louis Gutierrez (D-IL) to the House Minority Whip Rep. Steny Hoyer (D-MD), have been more critical of Obama in this whole process than the political press. For Obama, this is all politics – and treacherous politics at that.

The press is satisfied when Obama plays the game well and scores a point for the home team. For the border state residents, the tireless border guards and immigration processing facility managers, and the children fleeing violence at home in the mistaken impression that they can find sanctuary in the United States, none of this is a game.


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No, I’m not saying that at all. I am just tired of people saying that they want the federal government to foot the bill for these kids when all the money come from the same place. Us. If the stupid government was doing their job correctly, we wouldn’t have to worry about taking care of these kids. They wouldn’t be here. But they are here and I want them shipped home sooner rather than later.

Cindy Munford on July 10, 2014 at 11:55 AM

All I’m saying is that as long as CA and NY rule the land…this situation will not improve…Unless Texas gets a divorce.

workingclass artist on July 10, 2014 at 12:01 PM

So, how to you increase the costs, exactly? Require their parents to pay $5000 to get the kids back (like they have the money to pay that)? Let’s have some specifics.

jim56 on July 10, 2014 at 11:58 AM

I’m not a politician, Jim! If I had a bunch of ideas, I’m sure politicians wouldn’t be interested in implementing them. But you seem to be limplying that what I am proposing is impossible. I am merely pointing out to you that it is not. If these people feel like they are risking more than they are willing to lose, up to and including their lives, they won’t be so bold. Don’t confuse humanitarian concerns with economic ones.

gryphon202 on July 10, 2014 at 12:01 PM

…it’s not the Koch brothers fault?

JugEarsButtHurt on July 10, 2014 at 12:02 PM

…he wants 4 billion dollars…so he can hand out contracts again…where no one does anything ……again!

JugEarsButtHurt on July 10, 2014 at 12:03 PM

I see our regular fascist enabler is here to ‘add’ to the discussion, bringing strawmen, mendacity, and demanding answers that the feckless Dear Leader refuses to address.

Athos on July 10, 2014 at 12:04 PM

Gov. Perry has said we need to have a Monroe Doctrine for the 21st century applied to the Northern Hemisphere. (That would include naval blockades)

He said this is a national security problemo.

Sec. of State John Kerry said “The Monroe Doctrine is dead”

workingclass artist on July 10, 2014 at 11:58 AM

The Monroe Doctrine related to the US doctrine to prevent further colonization of the Americas by Europeans. The current situation is a result of activities by people in Central America to come to the US.

The Monroe Doctrine (or something similar) wouldn’t apply to the current situation.

jim56 on July 10, 2014 at 12:08 PM

Message for obama and his goons.

Schadenfreude on July 10, 2014 at 12:08 PM

Noah Rothman ‏@NoahCRothman 16m

Why won’t you impeach Obama? Cowards! – press to the GOP.

Bmore on July 10, 2014 at 12:11 PM

Saw something yesterday that the cost of airplane tickets back to their home country for the number of people we’re discussing would cost about 97% less than the $4billion Obama is requesting…

Midas on July 10, 2014 at 12:12 PM

workingclass artist on July 10, 2014 at 12:01 PM

Let me know if the proceedings start, I’ll want to move there.

Cindy Munford on July 10, 2014 at 12:13 PM

Noah Rothman ‏@NoahCRothman 16m

Why won’t you impeach Obama? Cowards! – press to the GOP.

Bmore on July 10, 2014 at 12:11 PM

64K Tweets, I think the boy spends too much time on twitter. Does that pass as journalism these days.

HumpBot Salvation on July 10, 2014 at 12:14 PM

HumpBot Salvation on July 10, 2014 at 12:14 PM

Lolz! Its why I follow so few. Folks tweet a lot!

Bmore on July 10, 2014 at 12:15 PM

Knowing what a non-feckless president is capable of, I doubt this president knows what he is doing, or, he refuses to do the right thing. Instead he does this pathetic thing.

jake49 on July 10, 2014 at 12:16 PM

His response may be pathetic but he is good at it like other successful communicators whether you like them or not. Just give the media a few talking points that match the imagery – kids and misery and blame Republicans for not funding humanitarian aid – get it? Christie did the same after Sandy.

Reagan was the Teflon President so the images of him eating with elderly people and smiling was defeating to the reporter talking about cuts he was making in programs – people saw the images and didn’t hear the words.

My college professor used to say, close your eyes and imagine Ronald Reagan riding a horse. Now imagine Gerald Ford. When we opened our eyes he pointed out Gerald Ford was a star athlete but he didn’t connect with America’s powers like Reagan did, instead people imagined him slipping down the stair on Air Force One or trying to eat a tamale with a corn husk on it.

Clinton played the sax, said he felt your pain, and used triangulation.

Obama has a clear strong voice, preternatural self-confidence, and weaves talking points together in a way that mocks the other side and is not easy to refute in counter punching talking points. It seems like a humorous quick witted response that made him feel made fun of would be the perfect counter-weapon but I haven’t seen it done.

timoric on July 10, 2014 at 12:17 PM

Midas on July 10, 2014 at 12:12 PM


Sen. Ron Johnson made that point
– saying the total cost to send them back was only 1.5% of the $3.7B that Obama wants to further muddy the waters….

It was also reported that Obama nixed any consideration of deploying the National Guard in Tx, NM, AZ, and CA to close the border because it was only a ‘temporary’ solution and not a ‘permanent’ plan.

It’s clear, President Zero has zero interest in addressing this – which only adds to the circumstantial evidence that this is a crisis created by the Administration for political purposes.

Athos on July 10, 2014 at 12:20 PM

Incompetent fool

Schadenfreude on July 10, 2014 at 12:20 PM

Thank you Sophie. Why Weazel Zippers doesn’t get more prominence is always a puzzler.

Schadenfreude on July 10, 2014 at 12:21 PM

Border states tried to solve the problem years ago. You thwarted those efforts on the basis of preemption.

You wanted to own the problem, it’s all yours, Mr. President.

The Schaef on July 10, 2014 at 12:22 PM

________________________________________

Obama’s AMNESTY Dilemma

Obama’s MANIPULATION of the DEPORTATION SYSTEM
has triggered the tidal wave of unaccompanied
children coming to the southern border.
……………………………………………………………………..
I believe this situation is a CALAMITY
that surpasses all of the other times
Obama has SELECTIVELY enforced our LAWS
or MANEUVERED OUTSIDE the LAW
to RULE by FIAT.

Obama administration isn’t just
letting the INVASION occur;
they are FACILITATING IT
in a way that is a MALFEASANCE
that undermines American SOVEREIGNTY.

________________________________________

Families who come to the border from countries
other than Mexico are being HELPED ACROSS the BORDER
by USA immigration officials and then RELEASED,
sometimes even transported, deep into the United States.

It is the Obama administration’s written policy
not to track down non-violent ILLEGAL immigrants.
Obama’s SELECTIVE enforcement of immigration law
has created a de facto open boarder.

……………………………………………………………………..
$116 million of Obama’s request will go to
TRANSPORTING ILLEGAL migrants further into the USA.
RELEASING ILLEGAL immigrants into the USA with a permiso.

……………………………………………………………………..
Americans are seeing first hand that
amnesties only beget more amnesties.

The only way for Obama to end the crisis
is to start treating all ILLEGAL migrants
the way Mexican ILLEGAL migrants are treated:
by turning them away from the border.

……………………………………………………………………..
So the crisis on the border will continue,
more ILLEGAL migrants will come to the USA,
and Obama will continue to FACILITATE
their ENTRY into the country.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/conncarroll/2014/07/09/obamas-amnesty-dilema-n1860366

________________________________________

The Moral Crisis on Our Southern Border
A perfect storm of special interests
have HIJACKED USA immigration law.

http://www.NationalReview.com/node/382335/print

________________________________________

http://www.ZeroHEDGE.COM

http://www.RealClearPOLITICS.com

________________________________________

Global HAWK on July 10, 2014 at 12:22 PM

Blacks, come on over. We’ll go defeat the DIABLOs and your D-exploiters, together. They want to destroy you and always have. They have never loved you and have done nothing for you.

Schadenfreude on July 10, 2014 at 12:24 PM

and the children fleeing violence at home in the mistaken impression that they can find sanctuary in the United States, none of this is a game.

Sorry, Hot Air. This is horseshite, and you should be required to provide an offer of proof. Is there some spike in Central American violence that explains the dramatic increase in Central American migration.

Rothman is a bust.

BuckeyeSam on July 10, 2014 at 12:26 PM

Every murder trial conducted against an illegal alien while President Obama ignores the (immigration) laws he swore to execute, should name the President as an accessory to murder.

dominigan on July 10, 2014 at 12:28 PM

Gov. Perry has said we need to have a Monroe Doctrine for the 21st century applied to the Northern Hemisphere. (That would include naval blockades)

He said this is a national security problemo.

Sec. of State John Kerry said “The Monroe Doctrine is dead”

workingclass artist on July 10, 2014 at 11:58 AM

The Monroe Doctrine related to the US doctrine to prevent further colonization of the Americas by Europeans. The current situation is a result of activities by people in Central America to come to the US.

The Monroe Doctrine (or something similar) wouldn’t apply to the current situation.

jim56 on July 10, 2014 at 12:08 PM

Ummmm….no

A 21st century Monroe Doctrine would make state sponsored illegal migration into the USA an act of War.

Under a new Monroe Doctrine envisioned by Gov. Perry this recent act by the presidents of Mexico and Guatemala would be an act of War.

On Monday, Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto and Guatemalan president Otto Perez Molina held a joint press conference in Playas de Catazaja, Mexico, to officially announce an agreement to make it easier for those making the illegal journey to the United States from Central America, to cross into Mexico.

The Southern Border Program to Improve Passage, will provide for more border checkpoints along Mexico’s border with Guatemala, and offer more protection and even emergency medical care to those making their way north. The illegal aliens will receive a so-called Regional Visitor’s Card, according to El Universal….”

http://www.examiner.com/article/mexico-made-deal-to-send-more-illegal-aliens-to-the-u-s

It would greatly strengthen our diplomacy…give us a Big Stick…

Given that Mexico has recently opened up PEMEX to foreign investment because Mexico needs the money it also gives US more negotiating power to force these governments to stop the migrations.

This isn’t just about remittances…This is about influence in regional and national politics in this country and stopping this reconquista baby crapola!

This will be more crucial because China is moving into oil venturing in our southern half and Putin is moving on the Cuban coast…He’s visiting his old friends next month…

A New Monroe Doctrine carries a clear message and gives the US broader power on securing our shores and borders…as well as our natural resources.

Our southern “neighbors” are proving to be an existential security threat to their Northern half.

workingclass artist on July 10, 2014 at 12:36 PM

What a colossal pile of deranged, delusional tripe.

First, the earflapped mushmouth takes NO responsibility whatsoever for the situation at hand- caused of course by his overt and covert signals that he has not and will not enforce immigration/border policy.

Second- this fatuous turd has the gall to say he’s interested in “solutions, not politics”. The absurdity of this nonsense is too great to convey on a single post. The moron also said “I don’t do photo ops”- again, absurd.

Next, this ill informed mope talks about “McConnell, Boehner and other members of the Texas delegation”. Was not aware that Texas had annexed both Ohio and Kentucky. Shame about that ignorance problem, barky. Maybe you can fill out a tourney bracket and make it all better. Dolt.

Princess Imbecile also suggests that the Republicans “rediscover the art of compromise”. Wow. Such a titanic, colossal block of blithe self unawareness or staggering narcissism- or both. This, from the part time president/full time jackass whose sole “accomplishment” is obamacide, which was passed without a single GOP vote. The same drooling stooge that said “I’m going to trump you on that, I won. Elections have consequences.”

And let’s examine his statement about “preserving the due process rights of these folks”. Uh, not US citizens. No “due process” rights are accorded. Yeah, Constitutional lecturer…you bet.

Moron. Fool. Putz. Ignoramus. Gibbering idiot. Clown. Buffoon.

Yes, the answer is: “Synonyms for barry soetero, worst US president in hisotry”.

GrassMudHorsey on July 10, 2014 at 12:37 PM

Obama and State Dept have been working with Mexico and Guatemala for more than a year to facilitate the “Death Trains”.

(search for “CNN 2010 death trains” for lots of pics of trains)


http://mexico.usembassy.gov/press-releases/embassy-statement5/embassy-statement.html

US Embassy Statement

Mexico City, July 08, 2014 – We applaud yesterday’s announcement by Mexican President Enrique Pena Nieto regarding Mexico’s strategy for its southern border. The Mexican government has been working on this strategy for more than a year, and has routinely briefed the U.S. government on Mexico’s objectives….Both of our countries share the responsibility in protecting those crossing our borders – especially the most vulnerable….

See the Mexican announcement here:

http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/nacion-mexico/2014/impreso/mexico-y-guatemala-protegeran-a-migrantes-216921.html

Google translation:

Guatemala and Mexico to protect migrants BEACHES Catazajá, Chis -. Tuesday July 8, 2014

Upon starting the program Frontera Sur, Enrique Peña Nieto president warned that Mexico is convinced that the migration must be addressed from a regional, co and human perspective.

Accompanied by the president of Guatemala, Otto Perez Molina, the governors of Chiapas, Quintana Roo, Campeche and Tabasco, and cabinet members, President Peña Nieto said that this program, with five lines of action, has a dual purpose: protect and safeguard the human rights of migrants entering and transiting through Mexico and sort international crossings to increase the development and security of the region.

The Southern Border program envisages strengthening actions against national security cabinet criminal groups that attack migrants intelligence work of Mexico and Guatemala along the border and exchange of biometric information in real time between the two nations. President Peña Nieto was in favor of achieving a safer south, and ordered that the relationship with Central help develop the entire Mesoamerican region border.

“In the past, the Central American countries and Mexico work together to end the conflict and bring peace to the region. If you were able to overcome that challenge, today, I’m sure we can also improve the conditions of regional migration, “said federal executive. If countries said, unite wills and undertake efforts, will ensure dignified, humane treatment for migrants. In his speech, President Perez Molina said the program specific actions for a prosperous, modern, secure border, with orderly migration flows and with respect for human rights. Highlighted the vision of President Peña Nieto that “instead of putting walls, obstacles and difficulties,” has vision of togetherness. Shares for a secure border Peña Nieto detailed the five lines of action of the program begins with the ordering of border traffic for crossing minimum of information.

To encourage formal access to Mexico to obtain the card Regional Away Guatemalans and Belizeans for free and with which the wearer can enter up to 72 hours to the states of Campeche, Chiapas, Quintana Roo and Tabasco be provided. Agents of the National Migration Institute (INM) and other authorities should ensure full respect for the rights of cardholders.

The second point focuses on providing more security for migrants, so the proper operation of the 12 official border crossings will ensure 10 with Guatemala and Belize and two points will be converted into customs review of Comprehensive Care Centers Border Traffic with participation of the INM, the SAT, the Federal Police, the Department of Defense and the Navy of Mexico, among other agencies.

Peña Nieto President gave instructions to the Cabinet to increase security measures against crime; Segob, along with officials from Guatemala, strengthen intelligence work. The third point of protection and social action centers on duplicate medical units, improve shelters and detention centers, and support centers DIF “Outdated” by the growing child migration. The fourth point of regional responsibility, is aimed at putting in place the mechanism for special care of children and unaccompanied migrant, with El Salvador, United States, Guatemala and Honduras.

Finally, the coordination is created for Comprehensive Migration in Southern Border, so the President instructed the Secretary of the Interior, Miguel Angel Osorio Chong, immediately define its holder.

Remember in “Casablanca” the Letters of Transit???

This new program formalizes the official transit of illegal migrants across Mexico — aiding and abetting human trafficking.

F’in OUTRAGEOUS!!!!

fred5678 on July 10, 2014 at 12:37 PM

Because of Obama’s actions in International Policy…Folks perceive the US as a weak and stupid Nation…ripe for the pillage and occupation…

So…we have Guatemala and Mexico agreeing to empty their countries of their “best and brightest”

Because…Post America & Apology tour(s)

Latino Spring everybody!

workingclass artist on July 10, 2014 at 12:43 PM

“On Monday, Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto and Guatemalan president Otto Perez Molina held a joint press conference in Playas de Catazaja, Mexico, to officially announce an agreement to make it easier for those making the illegal journey to the United States from Central America, to cross into Mexico.”

Interesting. The mouth breathing dunce we have for president just claimed in the above clip that Lil’ Joey B (aka veepy ChooChoo) Secretary Lurch and pals were meeting with various countries to ensure that they would make it more difficult for their citizens to illegally enter the US.

So, gosh- yet another lie verified from lil’ choomie. Either this is a lie, or the beer swilling pool playing sociopath was lying when he claimed he was “intimately aware of the situation” regarding the border. Take your pick.

Shocked. Really.

Then again, he was spluttering and stuttering out his standard blast of word vomit, so lies are to be expected.

GrassMudHorsey on July 10, 2014 at 12:45 PM

Allahpundit ‏@allahpundit 5m

The “blame Obama” argument would be more convincing if GOP leaders hadn’t just spent 18 months calling for “reform” http://www.nationaljournal.com/congress/boehner-goes-off-on-obama-over-immigration-crisis-20140710

Bmore on July 10, 2014 at 12:50 PM

The welfare roles are swollen and the country is 17 trillion dollars in debt.
 
I’m sick of the PRESS, here and elsewhere, telling me about compassion and humanitarian blah blah.
 
Put the illegals on a plane, give ‘em a nice movie and a happy meal and fly them home. Let Beck do his charity thing in their country
 
THEN – get rid of the stupid Obama law requiring these non-Mexican children be taken in at the border.

ignatzk on July 10, 2014 at 12:50 PM

Remember in “Casablanca” the Letters of Transit???

This new program formalizes the official transit of illegal migrants across Mexico — aiding and abetting human trafficking.

F’in OUTRAGEOUS!!!!

fred5678 on July 10, 2014 at 12:37 PM

Worse.

Guatemala & Mexico agree to Occupy our country.

It’s an invasion like the one the Jordanians did in Israel…They migrated locals illegally back into the countries borders disguised as a humanitarian crisis.

They just named Jordanians as Palestinians and emptied the camps…etc.

Then they launched the PR campaign and waited for anti-jewish sentiment to rise collectively…etc.

Reconquista…similar deal and exploits a rising anti-American and anti-caucasian sentiment.

Y’know cause we stole the border states from Mexico…and this is taught in the schools and abetted by the populations within their hispano-nationalist culture.

Balkanization.

workingclass artist on July 10, 2014 at 12:51 PM

Allahpundit ‏@allahpundit 5m

The “blame Obama” argument would be more convincing if GOP leaders hadn’t just spent 18 months calling for “reform” http://www.nationaljournal.com/congress/boehner-goes-off-on-obama-over-immigration-crisis-20140710

Bmore on July 10, 2014 at 12:50 PM

AP is right.

Gov. Perry said in 2011 that this wasn’t R v D anymore…It’s Liberal v Conservative on just about every issue.

workingclass artist on July 10, 2014 at 12:53 PM

GrassMudHorsey on July 10, 2014 at 12:45 PM

I’ve been posting that link on multiple threads since I found it.

Pass it along.

HA should do a front page article on it.

workingclass artist on July 10, 2014 at 12:55 PM

The Southern Border Program to Improve Passage, will provide for more border checkpoints along Mexico’s border with Guatemala, and offer more protection and even emergency medical care to those making their way north. The illegal aliens will receive a so-called Regional Visitor’s Card, according to El Universal….”

http://www.examiner.com/article/mexico-made-deal-to-send-more-illegal-aliens-to-the-u-s
It would greatly strengthen our diplomacy…give us a Big Stick…

Given that Mexico has recently opened up PEMEX to foreign investment because Mexico needs the money it also gives US more negotiating power to force these governments to stop the migrations.

This isn’t just about remittances…This is about influence in regional and national politics in this country and stopping this reconquista baby crapola!

This will be more crucial because China is moving into oil venturing in our southern half and Putin is moving on the Cuban coast…He’s visiting his old friends next month…

A New Monroe Doctrine carries a clear message and gives the US broader power on securing our shores and borders…as well as our natural resources.

Our southern “neighbors” are proving to be an existential security threat to their Northern half.

workingclass artist on July 10, 2014 at 12:36 PM

Go back and look at the 4 Mexican states they are permitted to be in for 72 hours. They are all on the southern border with Guatemala and Belize. They are no where near the Mexican northern border.

jim56 on July 10, 2014 at 12:56 PM

Every time some politicians boo hoos about “the children” I want to slap his head and suggest he look at the pictures. Yes some of these children are way to young to have come here without a parent and shame on their parents for sending them. But I doubt that all the 15 -17 year old males were good little boys living at home with mama & papa.

katiejane on July 10, 2014 at 12:56 PM

VIDEO: Houston woman goes on EPIC rant about unaccompanied illegals – “Why can’t they go back?”

http://therightscoop.com/houston-black-woman-goes-on-epic-rant-about-unaccompanied-illegals-why-cant-they-go-back/

Pork-Chop on July 10, 2014 at 1:00 PM

Go back and look at the 4 Mexican states they are permitted to be in for 72 hours. They are all on the southern border with Guatemala and Belize. They are no where near the Mexican northern border.

jim56 on July 10, 2014 at 12:56 PM

And they’ll just remain in those 4 Mexican states for the 72 hours and return to their native country?

Are you really that vapid?

Athos on July 10, 2014 at 1:00 PM

Go back and look at the 4 Mexican states they are permitted to be in for 72 hours. They are all on the southern border with Guatemala and Belize. They are no where near the Mexican northern border.

jim56 on July 10, 2014 at 12:56 PM

And they’ll just remain in those 4 Mexican states for the 72 hours and return to their native country?

Are you really that vapid?

Athos on July 10, 2014 at 1:00 PM

If I’m reading the stuff right, Mexico can kick them out if they don’t stay in those four states. So instead of threatening to build a 2000 mile fence, cut off commercial traffic with Mexico, etc., perhaps we should just ask Mexico to enforce this law.

jim56 on July 10, 2014 at 1:21 PM

And they’ll just remain in those 4 Mexican states for the 72 hours and return to their native country?

Are you really that vapid?

Athos on July 10, 2014 at 1:00 PM

Why, yes..as a matter of fact he IS that vapid. Stooooopid, too..

bimmcorp on July 10, 2014 at 1:23 PM

..perhaps we should just ask Mexico to enforce this law.

jim56 on July 10, 2014 at 1:21 PM

No one can be this naive. Stupid, yes. Naive, no.

Obama doesn’t know what “enforce the law” means, so why would he ask another fellow open-borders president to “enforce the law”?

NSA, IRS, Black Panther voting suppression, etc., ad nauseum

fred5678 on July 10, 2014 at 1:45 PM

Perfect read

Schadenfreude on July 10, 2014 at 1:56 PM

From another thread:

..perhaps we should just ask Mexico to enforce this law.

jim56 on July 10, 2014 at 1:21 PM

Go back and look at the 4 Mexican states they are permitted to be in for 72 hours. They are all on the southern border with Guatemala and Belize. They are no where near the Mexican northern border.

jim56 on July 10, 2014 at 12:56 PM

1. No one can be this naive. Stupid, yes. Troll, yes. Naive, no.

Obama doesn’t know what “enforce the law” means, so why would he ask another fellow open-borders president to “enforce the law”?

NSA, IRS, Black Panther voting suppression, etc., ad nauseum.

2. As Dave letterman would say, “Two words — Death Trains”. You know, the ones that START at Mexico’s southern border and END at OUR southern border. Like the one that derailed and spilled 1300 “migrants” with their fresh 72-hour visas. And I’m sure the Federales will make sure no migrant violates the 72 hour train pass. And if they don’t enforce the 72 hour limit, “perhaps we should just ask Mexico to enforce this law.

fred5678 on July 10, 2014 at 2:02 PM

Worse.

Guatemala & Mexico agree to Occupy our country.

It’s an invasion like the one the Jordanians did in Israel…They migrated locals illegally back into the countries borders disguised as a humanitarian crisis.

They just named Jordanians as Palestinians and emptied the camps…etc.

Then they launched the PR campaign and waited for anti-jewish sentiment to rise collectively…etc.

Reconquista…similar deal and exploits a rising anti-American and anti-caucasian sentiment.

Y’know cause we stole the border states from Mexico…and this is taught in the schools and abetted by the populations within their hispano-nationalist culture.

Balkanization.

workingclass artist on July 10, 2014 at 12:51 PM

They want to do to our nation what the Iranian Shia hezblahblah have done to Lebanon.

slickwillie2001 on July 10, 2014 at 2:20 PM

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Schadenfreude on July 10, 2014 at 3:23 PM

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Schadenfreude on July 10, 2014 at 3:23 PM

What do we win? Does this mean folks here will stop the hating on Noah?

Bmore on July 10, 2014 at 4:14 PM

Schadenfreude on July 10, 2014 at 3:23 PM

I emailed Noah to let him know. ; )

Bmore on July 10, 2014 at 5:06 PM

You come home from vacation and your house is flooded. You check the pipe, it’s broken, mold is forming and the flood continues. What do you do? If you’re a progressive you:

1 Pretend it’s not happening
2 Go out and party with friends
3 Play a little golf
4 Berate your family for calling it a crisis
5 Call your insurance company
6 Tell them your sorry you forgot to pay your premium
7 Blame your neighbors
8 Demand more money than your home is insured for
9 Get pissed when none of this works out
…all while the water continues to destroy your house.

AppraisHer on July 10, 2014 at 5:07 PM

Does this mean folks here will stop the hating on Noah?

Bmore on July 10, 2014 at 4:14 PM

Hate is such an ugly word. I merely called him progressive. Do you disagree?

gryphon202 on July 10, 2014 at 5:12 PM

gryphon202 on July 10, 2014 at 5:12 PM

It wasn’t aimed at you personally. Yes hating is too strong a word. I actually hesitated before using it. I just couldn’t pull the trigger on a appropriate replacement. I can’t say what Noah is yet with certainty. A moderate would be my best guess at this point. Fact is he doesn’t rub me wrong. I kinda like having his view of things to bounce my view off of. So, yes at this point I would have to disagree with you. Not a progressive.

Bmore on July 10, 2014 at 5:36 PM

Obama would have gone to the border if George Clooney was there.

alanstern on July 10, 2014 at 5:39 PM

Yes. Perfect. Should have used the word. disapprove. ; ) HT Noah.

Bmore on July 10, 2014 at 6:27 PM

Obama would have gone to the border if George Clooney was there.

alanstern on July 10, 2014 at 5:39 PM

…or Shakira.

slickwillie2001 on July 10, 2014 at 7:27 PM

It wasn’t aimed at you personally. Yes hating is too strong a word. I actually hesitated before using it. I just couldn’t pull the trigger on a appropriate replacement. I can’t say what Noah is yet with certainty. A moderate would be my best guess at this point. Fact is he doesn’t rub me wrong. I kinda like having his view of things to bounce my view off of. So, yes at this point I would have to disagree with you. Not a progressive.

Bmore on July 10, 2014 at 5:36 PM

Sounds like you’re reserving the right to change your mind. I’d have a little more respect for you if you sounded more certain. Those who don’t stand for something will fall for anything. :P

Personally, it escapes me how someone can laud Roe V Wade in such a public forum as this one and still be considered “moderate.” But then again, killing babies hasn’t ever NOT rubbed me the wrong way, so there’s that.

gryphon202 on July 10, 2014 at 9:52 PM

He owns this. His administration sued states that tried to control illegals. He encouraged this to happen and now he runs away from it like some little kid that broke a window with a baseball and blames everyone else.

jaywemm on July 10, 2014 at 10:13 PM

Obama is using the manufactured crisis to force Congress to act. The deaths of the children, the rapes and tortures by the hands of the cartels mean nothing to him, because the only thing that matter to him…is him.

He said something years ago I never forgot. “Sometimes you don’t have to win the argument, you only have to win the moment.” Add the old adage “The end justifies the means.” and you have Obama in a nutshell. And why this event is unfolding the way it is.

Btw- I watched one of the speeches. The response from the people behind him were troubled and forced. Seriously, it was like watching a N Korean Presidential speech.

They say we’ve had worse Presidents. Maybe. Not in my lifetime. And I’ve been around since Eisenhower.

This guy is the walking definition of Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder

When they live small lives, they only torture and manipulate wives and kids and friends. When they get into corporate business, they ruin companies. When they enter politics, they are mostly democrats, and can do great harm.

Welcome to the rabbit hole folks, and it will only get worse.

archer52 on July 10, 2014 at 10:53 PM

gryphon202 on July 10, 2014 at 9:52 PM

Yeah, well, I don’t do the whole lock step thing. Perhaps he identifies as a Libertarian. You should ask him sometime. As far as Roe v Wade. Plenty of good people have it wrong. You don’t change minds by closing down the conversation about it. You see when I read this phrased the way you elected to phrase it.

But then again, killing babies hasn’t ever NOT rubbed me the wrong way, so there’s that.

It says to me there is something you’d really like to say to me directly but won’t come right out and say it. It has the appearance of a slight. Perhaps you think very highly of yourself and your opinion of me. Good for you. Oh and gryphon202, I’m not in particular need of your respect. Thanks for making me feel important to you though. ; )

Bmore on July 10, 2014 at 11:40 PM

Oh and gryphon202, I’m closing this tab. If you have anything else to add, you’ll have to catch me on another thread.

Bmore on July 10, 2014 at 11:51 PM

Oh and gryphon202, I’m closing this tab. If you have anything else to add, you’ll have to catch me on another thread.

Bmore on July 10, 2014 at 11:51 PM

I’ll say it on this thread anyway. Nothing of any note in history was accomplished by moderates. I’m a shit-or-get-off-the-pot kind of guy. To me,a moderate is the next worst thing you can be to progressive, since all that is needed for the triumph of evil is for good people to do nothing. So there’s that, too.

Maybe my thoughts didn’t come across exactly how I intended, but we’re now a nation of weaklings and cowards with very few exceptions. And yes, I hold up Noah Rothman as an example. Weakling. Coward. We’ll just deal with our difference of opinion on that matter.

gryphon202 on July 11, 2014 at 12:04 AM

Obama has a clear strong voice, preternatural self-confidence, and weaves talking points together in a way that mocks the other side and is not easy to refute in counter punching talking points. It seems like a humorous quick witted response that made him feel made fun of would be the perfect counter-weapon but I haven’t seen it done.

timoric on July 10, 2014 at 12:17 PM

Which is why I’ve maintained that any good political campaign should include a stand-up comic and/or comedy writers. Same reason a baseball team needs a batting coach: When the other side is pitching at you, you want to be able to swing, connect, and hit a home run.
Not just strike out.

ReggieA on July 11, 2014 at 11:16 AM

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