ObamaCare premiums in MN heading for double-digit increases?

posted at 4:41 pm on July 10, 2014 by Ed Morrissey

Premium rates will escalate sharply for Minnesota enrollees in the MNSure system in 2015, but no one’s quite sure just how much they’ll rise. The lowball estimate is 8%, far above inflation, and the high estimate puts the increase into double digits. Either would be a direct rebuttal to claims by Barack Obama, Governor Mark Dayton, Senator Al Franken, and the DFL that the ObamaCare system will control costs for Minnesotans. With an election coming up for Dayton and Franken, will Minnesota voters get the final data before they have to cast their votes? Not if Dayton can help it, apparently:

Gov. Mark Dayton tells 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS he would be disappointed by such a large percentage increase in premiums, but the governor pointed out Minnesota still has the lowest rates in the country and that his goal is to keep it that way.

Dayton also says Brunner is entitled to her opinion.

“No one knows what the rates will be when they are approved and announced in November,” Brunner said.
Minnesota does not allow public disclosure of rate negotiations by law. University of Minnesota Professor Larry Jacobs says the public will start to get a very good idea of what the rates will be long before the November elections, even though the political strategy appears to indicate elected incumbents want the new rates withheld until after the elections.

Jacobs says it will be tough to keep the MNsure rate issue below the radar, and the strategy might backfire for incumbents.

One of Dayton’s prospective challengers, Jeff Johnson, demanded that the data be provided to voters before the election in a press release this morning:

“Governor Dayton is deliberately withholding the release of MNsure rates because they will damage his reelection prospects. It is a political cover up,” said Johnson.  “It is time for Governor Dayton to come clean with Minnesota families and disclose how much their insurance rates are set to increase.”

MNsure, Governor Dayton’s version of Obamacare for Minnesota, has been fraught with problems.  From a website that doesn’t work to last week’s disclosure that 16,000 Minnesotans were left without insurance because MNSure failed to follow up with them.

“MNsure has been a disaster and plagued with problems from the start,” Johnson said.  “The last thing Minnesotans need now is their Governor playing politics and trying to cover up skyrocketing rate increases for his political gain. Mark Dayton needs to come clean and tell Minnesotans how much more they will be paying for insurance next year under MNsure.”

“Family budgets are more important than Dayton’s political calendar. Once again Dayton is throwing ordinary Minnesotans under the bus to further his own political needs,” Johnson concluded.

I tend to agree with Jacobs on this. Keeping the rates buried may end up looking worse than getting them out in the open early. It’s going to be a tough cycle for Democrats nationwide and probably even a little in blue Minnesota, but uncertainty that lasts all the way through the November election will allow Republicans to hit Dayton with the highest-end estimates for the two-plus months after the primary in August. MNSure’s lengthy list of failures and continuing problems will not get shoved under the carpet by the DFL (Minnesota’s Democrats), but will be a major issue in the state election regardless of any other distractions Dayton and his allies project.

Dayton knows this too, so here’s a pretty good way to measure just how bad these rate hikes will be: the more Dayton tries to keep them under wraps, the worse they’re going to be.

Update: Looks like ObamaCare won’t help in South Carolina either, where it’s forcing employers to shift to part-time staff:


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Hah, that is more of what you got to own MN. Thanks to “me, Al Franken”, and Dayton and ad nauseum

jake49 on July 10, 2014 at 4:45 PM

Ol’ Dayton needs an MNsure MN-ah.

Marcola on July 10, 2014 at 4:46 PM

Shhhhhh…we don’t talk about obamacare anymore.

lesterdiso on July 10, 2014 at 3:08 PM

HumpBot Salvation on July 10, 2014 at 4:47 PM

Wait, I got this:

When premiums decline y’all are going to be pissed!

libfreeordie on May 7, 2014 at 10:18 AM

NotCoach on July 10, 2014 at 4:48 PM

This is happening everywhere and the libtard response is to:
1) Pretend it’s not happening and fail to report it.
2) Pretend it’s a lower increase than before Obozocare and so proof it has saved us all.

Tard on July 10, 2014 at 4:48 PM

But nearly almost close to maybe 50% (it’s really closer to 40%) of the people who were forced to buy Obamacare and who’ve actually used it are satisfied, racists.

rogerb on July 10, 2014 at 4:51 PM

We will agree to let women make their healthcare decisions instead of their bosses if women will agree that government will not anyone’s health care decisions as well. We call that compromise.

Buckshots on July 10, 2014 at 4:54 PM

We will agree to let women make their healthcare decisions instead of their bosses if women will agree that government will not make anyone’s health care decisions as well. We call that compromise.

Buckshots on July 10, 2014 at 4:55 PM

Wasn’t Al Franken the 60th-vote for ObamaCare?

Another Drew on July 10, 2014 at 4:57 PM

OT: The gloves are off Get the popcorn ready

ConservativePartyNow on July 10, 2014 at 4:58 PM

What will happen if’n Halbig v Sebelius (soon to be Halbig v Burwell) is decided in favour of the plaintiffs?

I foresee a mass exodus from 404care–and the prices will rise like an untethered helium-filled balloon…

Newtie and the Beauty on July 10, 2014 at 4:59 PM

Wow! Only double digits? My company now has to pay an additional $300/month for each employee (on top of the $360/month they were paying) and I now have a $2500 deductible. So, I got a $3600/year pay raise that I can’t touch unless I spend $2500. The insurance is not better; however, I do have maternity coverage. The science challenged liberals think that as a 53 year old male, I run the risk of getting knocked up.

DAT60A3 on July 10, 2014 at 5:00 PM

We just filed a resolution directing the Sergeant-At-Arms to arrest Lois Lerner for contempt.

What?

faraway on July 10, 2014 at 5:00 PM

oops, hoax

faraway on July 10, 2014 at 5:02 PM

How about everyone else’s premiums in MN? What’s the estimated rise on those?

Missy on July 10, 2014 at 5:03 PM

….keep voting for Democrats Mini-soda!

JugEarsButtHurt on July 10, 2014 at 5:04 PM

OT: The gloves are off Get the popcorn ready

ConservativePartyNow on July 10, 2014 at 4:58 PM

Holy Mother of Dragons…

Rix on July 10, 2014 at 5:07 PM

This guy just gives me the Creeps…

ToddPA on July 10, 2014 at 5:08 PM

OT: The gloves are off Get the popcorn ready

ConservativePartyNow on July 10, 2014 at 4:58 PM

Please let this be true.

Throat Wobbler Mangrove on July 10, 2014 at 5:08 PM

The science challenged liberals think that as a 53 year old male, I run the risk of getting knocked up.

DAT60A3 on July 10, 2014 at 5:00 PM

If you don’t get knocked up, it won’t be for the lack of trying. You’re getting screwed enough by the government, aren’t you?

Rix on July 10, 2014 at 5:08 PM

oops, hoax

faraway on July 10, 2014 at 5:02 PM

Nope.

He “filed” a resolution. It hasn’t come to a vote and may not, given the number of legislative days left in the session.

Adjoran on July 10, 2014 at 5:13 PM

The science challenged liberals think that as a 53 year old male, I run the risk of getting knocked up.

DAT60A3 on July 10, 2014 at 5:00 PM

I blame Hobby Lobby. Or George W. Bush. Or both.

Mr. D on July 10, 2014 at 5:14 PM

OT: #noahcott

No page views, no comments.

Midas on July 10, 2014 at 5:15 PM

While MN has been reliably blue since around 1976 in national votes, remember they did elect Jesse Ventura, so there is a populist contingent in the electorate.

Also recall Franken was elected by cheating, with a third candidate also in the race. He would be on my list for a potential Election Night shocker if things keep going the way they are, and Obama and Reid seem happy with that.

Adjoran on July 10, 2014 at 5:16 PM

The science challenged liberals think that as a 53 year old male, I run the risk of getting knocked up.

DAT60A3 on July 10, 2014 at 5:00 PM

But if you decide to have a sex change, you’re covered.

Just ask Bradley/Chelsea Manning, who got moved to the front of the line while honorable vets died waiting for routine care.

Adjoran on July 10, 2014 at 5:18 PM

Out: Hoax
In: Theater

Bravo

faraway on July 10, 2014 at 5:19 PM

Wow! Only double digits? My company now has to pay an additional $300/month for each employee (on top of the $360/month they were paying) and I now have a $2500 deductible. So, I got a $3600/year pay raise that I can’t touch unless I spend $2500. The insurance is not better; however, I do have maternity coverage. The science challenged liberals think that as a 53 year old male, I run the risk of getting knocked up.

DAT60A3 on July 10, 2014 at 5:00 PM

These increases will be very different by state. States that previously had a low degree of regulation and very few mandates will be seeing the largest premium increases. Unfortunately those states tend to also be Republican states.

States that had already gone crazy with health insurance regulation like CA, NY and IL will not see big increases, because they were already paying outrageous premiums.

Wait until the folks in MN see their new doctor networks, full of doctors from those funny little med schools in the Caribbean.

slickwillie2001 on July 10, 2014 at 5:24 PM

For shame, Hot Air.
Surely you don’t think that the esteemed Governor Dayton would withhold information about rates, simply to benefit his party’s outcome in the November elections?

I mean….that would be wrong.

orangemtl on July 10, 2014 at 5:25 PM

Well, maybe if Minnesota votes (D) just one more time, those premiums will drop … it’s worth a try, right?

Pork-Chop on July 10, 2014 at 5:26 PM

While MN has been reliably blue since around 1976 in national votes, remember they did elect Jesse Ventura, so there is a populist contingent in the electorate.

Also recall Franken was elected by cheating, with a third candidate also in the race. He would be on my list for a potential Election Night shocker if things keep going the way they are, and Obama and Reid seem happy with that.

Adjoran on July 10, 2014 at 5:16 PM

I don’t expect any shockers in MN; they stole it once and they can steal it again, because shoddy MN voting laws and prog judges allow them to.

slickwillie2001 on July 10, 2014 at 5:26 PM

The Stockman resolution filing is for real. The statement his office put out can be found here.

Throat Wobbler Mangrove on July 10, 2014 at 5:26 PM

OT: The gloves are off Get the popcorn ready

ConservativePartyNow on July 10, 2014 at 4:58 PM

Here we go

gophergirl on July 10, 2014 at 5:37 PM

MN poll workers are so good at finding boxes of ballots they forgot to count in the trunks of their cars, though.

Axeman on July 10, 2014 at 5:40 PM

Wait, I got this:

When premiums decline y’all are going to be pissed!

libfreeordie on May 7, 2014 at 10:18 AM

NotCoach on July 10, 2014 at 4:48 PM

Get that engraved.

Axeman on July 10, 2014 at 5:43 PM

We had to stick my mom on a crappy MinnesotaCare plan because she couldn’t afford the premium increase to her private plan. No respectable specialist will accept this crap. She needs another knee replacement. We are currently trying to find docs who accept cash payment plans.

Hat Trick on July 10, 2014 at 5:58 PM

But these Obamacare posts are about whistling past the graveyard, by next Novemeber Democrats will be openly running on the ACA. Mark my words.

libfreeordie on December 20, 2013 at 10:14 AM

Schadenfreude on July 10, 2014 at 6:00 PM

Well, Obamacare is the law. So, let’s change the subject. Bring in hundreds of thousands of illegals and get 3 billion dollars to help get dems. reelected. Sounds like a good plan to me. Boehner is happy and Obama is happy.

they lie on July 10, 2014 at 6:34 PM

Stuart Smalley to the courtesy phone, Stuart Smalley to the courtesy phone

crrr6 on July 10, 2014 at 6:36 PM

I can’t forget all the trolls on all the comment boards, “Eat it”, “Hahahahahaha”, “I love my free healthcare”, when this wreck passed.

Own it, kids.

formwiz on July 10, 2014 at 6:38 PM

No respectable specialist will accept this crap. She needs another knee replacement. We are currently trying to find docs who accept cash payment plans.

Hat Trick on July 10, 2014 at 5:58 PM

“Dear Mr Hat Trick:

“We at the ACA have been advised of your problem. We want your mother, Enrollee# 352-36-5423, to get the most effective care that her orthopedic issues merit.
In order to ensure safe, cost effective care for her, a Hospice representative will stop at your home to complete her mandatory enrollment. Please note that refusal to sign all appropriate forms constitutes a Federal offense.
“Our representative will be there at 6PM. Please be prompt.”

orangemtl on July 10, 2014 at 6:40 PM

What dummy really thought premiums would go down? Oh yeh, I know.

CW on July 10, 2014 at 7:01 PM

everdiso, this is where you call every liars, throw your pocketbook at them and run away in tears.

Chuck Schick on July 10, 2014 at 7:19 PM

Lying liars lie. Nothing new in the fascist democrat party.

820 000 part time jobs created/saved
525,000 full time jobs lost in June

According to King Barky the Liar we are in a much better place than when his reign of incompetence started.

jukin3 on July 10, 2014 at 7:27 PM

everdiso, this is where you call every liars, throw your pocketbook at them and run away in tears.

Chuck Schick on July 10, 2014 at 7:19 PM

Ditzo lives in Canada where they have the most wonderful and marvelous single-payer socialist system.

slickwillie2001 on July 10, 2014 at 7:30 PM


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Global HAWK on July 10, 2014 at 8:05 PM

We had to stick my mom on a crappy MinnesotaCare plan because she couldn’t afford the premium increase to her private plan. No respectable specialist will accept this crap. She needs another knee replacement. We are currently trying to find docs who accept cash payment plans.

Hat Trick on July 10, 2014 at 5:58 PM

How about these guys? $19,400 per knee.
http://www.surgerycenterok.com/?procedure_category=knee#jump

Tekov Yahoser on July 10, 2014 at 9:31 PM