Boehner: I disagree with Palin about impeaching Obama

posted at 12:41 pm on July 9, 2014 by Allahpundit

Via CNS News. Byron York had a post this morning wondering if Boehner would take impeachment off the table for Obama the same way Pelosi did for Bush despite the clamoring on the left at the time. Answer: Yes, of course! That’s the whole point of Boehner’s lawsuit, right? He wants to do something bold to show conservatives that he’s resisting Obama’s power grabs, but not so bold that it’ll blow up in the GOP’s face in November. The lawsuit is the perfect gesture. It gives him an excuse to rail against executive overreach publicly while booting the disposition of the matter to the courts. If they rule against him, it’s the judiciary’s fault, not his. And if it takes a year or more for the case to wend its way up to the Supreme Court, even better. It’s off his plate, which is what’s important. (Said Palin to Hannity last night, “You don’t bring a lawsuit to a gunfight, and there’s no room for lawyers on our front lines.”) For him to turn around and agree with Palin on impeachment after all that would be bizarre. Why pursue a circuitous legal route to rein in Obama if he’s prepared to try to remove him from office entirely?

It’s not just Boehner who’s running away from impeachment either. In purple-state Iowa, GOP Senate nominee Joni Ernst — who’s been endorsed by Palin — carefully explained to Yahoo News yesterday that she didn’t really say she wanted to impeach Obama the last time she said she wanted to impeach Obama.

Republican Iowa U.S. Senate candidate Joni Ernst attempted Tuesday night to walk back statements made at a January event in which she said President Barack Obama had “become a dictator” who should be “removed from office” or face “impeachment.”…

“To be clear, I have not seen any evidence that the President should be impeached,” the statement read…

“I was asked a question involving a hypothetical about what I thought should happen if the Supreme Court ruled that the president had committed an ‘abuse of power.’ Obviously if the Supreme Court were to ever rule that the President of the United States had abused their power, that would be a very serious charge,” Ernst said in the statement. “I responded by saying that if the court in fact made such a ruling, that the president should face the necessary repercussions. I would give the same answer about any president, Republican or Democrat.”

There are, surely, some GOPers in Congress willing to agree publicly with Palin that Obama must go. Just don’t expect it from anyone who’s running for office in a state or district where Republicans winning the general election is in the tiniest bit of doubt. Exit question: Could Boehner’s impeachment-avoidance strategy end up backfiring if he loses his lawsuit? Imagine a federal judge rules that the House’s dispute with O over executive power is a political question that should either be decided by the people at the polls or by the people’s representatives through their Article I powers — which, of course, includes impeachment. The courts will have essentially punted this issue back to Boehner and told him, a la Erick Erickson, to man up and accept the political risk of trying to remove the president if he’s allegedly so troubled by executive overreach. What’s Boehner’s move then? Use the power of the purse to choke off funding for Obama’s priorities and quietly ignore impeachment altogether, right?

Here’s the clip from this morning’s House leadership presser. Boehner’s facial expressions when the subject is raised are comedy gold.


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No need to call it the Palin Party. The breakaway began 2 election cycles ago. Romney lost because 3 million Republicans sat out the last election. You are being left alone. Like it much?

de rigueur on July 9, 2014 at 1:15 PM

Almost 60 millions people voted for Romney… That is 20 times more than the 3 millions Republicans who stayed home, if we are to believe that there are 3 millions f***ing morons who stayed home preferring that Obama wins the elections…

mnjg on July 9, 2014 at 1:29 PM

But no one with any intelligence or political savvy pays attention to Sarah Palin me.

Meredith on July 9, 2014 at 1:09 PM

FIFY

melle1228 on July 9, 2014 at 1:29 PM

Boehner is a liberal Eunich RINO.

nobama1267 on July 9, 2014 at 1:29 PM

Obama is above the law cause he’s historical…Oh and hand me another drink will ya? – Speaker “I lost my nuts” Boehner

workingclass artist on July 9, 2014 at 1:31 PM

OK, let’s look at the results of bringing impeachment.

1) Impeachment is successful. Swear in President Biden. D’oh! Biden would be the nominee in 2016 and could possibly be President for the next 8 years.

Nethicus on July 9, 2014 at 1:21 PM
Impeaching Obama does not make Biden President!

huckleberryfriend on July 9, 2014 at 1:31 PM

She has a lot of people talking about it, which I believe is her short term goal. Keep the presidential incompetence and lawlessness front and center. Elections four months away.

Viator on July 9, 2014 at 1:31 PM

Sarah knew that most GOP’ers would disagree with her, which is why she directed her comments toward the American people …

“It’s time to impeach; and on behalf of American workers and legal immigrants of all backgrounds, we should vehemently oppose any politician on the left or right who would hesitate in voting for articles of impeachment.” – Sarah Palin

Pork-Chop on July 9, 2014 at 12:52 PM

Brilliant post.

Unfortunately, we have many here who view
everything thru the Prism of Politics, all optics, all the time.

It’s all a Game, doncha know….this woman speaks for the
American People…a lost Art, that was last seen…

..what was that guy’s name again?

ToddPA on July 9, 2014 at 12:57 PM

You two seem to be part of a very few here that are smart enough to understand what she’s doing. She’s emphasizing doing what is constitutionally right over doing what is politically expedient. In other words, principle over politics. She’s knows that the GOPe leadership will do nothing but stand by while Obama destroys the country and that’s why she’s speaking to the people. There are a lot of Dems who would agree with her if the media had done its job. Unfortunately, the media has cheered Obama’s actions while painting him a genius and painting Palin as an idiot, while the actual facts prove just the opposite. Palin is doing what needs to be done to reach those who understand that wrong is wrong, no matter what party is doing it.

NoNails on July 9, 2014 at 1:32 PM

mnjg on July 9, 2014 at 1:29 PM

But more millions voted for Obama. Again. You need every vote you can get. But you don’t seem to get that. Keep up the beatings of disenchanted GOPers until morale improves.

de rigueur on July 9, 2014 at 1:32 PM

OK, let’s look at the results of bringing impeachment.

1) Impeachment is successful. Swear in President Biden. D’oh! Biden would be the nominee in 2016 and could possibly be President for the next 8 years.

Nethicus on July 9, 2014 at 1:21 PM

Worked well for President Gore……..oh, wait.

This is NOT a reason to argue against impeachment. And besides, could Biden be any worse than Obama?

Bitter Clinger on July 9, 2014 at 1:34 PM

Well, Meredith is here….now we just need Bluegill, and
a few others….

Come on PALIN HATERS!!! Is this all you got!!???

ToddPA on July 9, 2014 at 1:15 PM

Actually, faraway seems to be a dead-ringer for Bluegill.

wolfsDad on July 9, 2014 at 1:35 PM

Yesterday I jokingly wrote ‘well there goes the impeachment momentum’ following Plain endorsing it.
But man…no joke.
 
verbaluce on July 9, 2014 at 1:18 PM

 
I think one of the more interesting elements is now we’re discussing/defending why VA coverups and the related deaths, gun smuggling, blatant actions such as his NLRB appointments, Gitmo releases, a weaponized IRS, hard drive crashes and breaking the law by not having required paper docs, actively refusing to send help to Ambassador Stevens, etc. AREN’T violations of his office.
 
The biggest problem I see is that it’s an us vs. them “so sue me, ha ha” debate instead of a “you know, that whole IRS thing does seem out of sorts with the laws of our republic and the office” debate.
 
Well, other than the PALIN HAHAHA!!! types.

rogerb on July 9, 2014 at 1:35 PM

What little men we have in Congress. Both Democrats and Republicans.

huckleberryfriend on July 9, 2014 at 1:35 PM

I’ve insisted since yesterday that while he IS gratuitously impeachable, it would be a pointless gesture that, given our corrupt society’s love of lawless bad boys, would blow up in the GOP’s face even if they were to pursue it. Which they never, ever would. Palin knew that when she said it. She’s smarter than they are and I suspect her impeachment goad was just as much an indictment of the GOP as it was of Obama.

S.P. Link on July 9, 2014 at 1:28 PM

Exactly. She coupled the impeachment call with “how much longer can I [anyone] stick with a party that won’t stick with its principles?” And that’s the part no one’s talking about.

de rigueur on July 9, 2014 at 1:36 PM

BTW, one has to admire the (D)s for making one of the remedies for keeping executive overreach in check essentially meaningless.

rogerb on July 9, 2014 at 1:36 PM

The founding fathers left us tools like Impeachment and Censure for a reason. They are only to be used in extreme circumstances. They are not a toy, and a political chip to be tossed around lightly.

Has Obama broke his oath of office?

Has Obama broken laws?

Has Obama ignored laws?

Has Obama’s policies weakening our national defense?

All this whining and complaining about Obama and his lawlessness means nothing if you aren’t going to follow through with what comes next.

What does Obama have to do that merits Impeachment? Are hypocrites for being the party of law, and not following through with what happens to those who break the laws?

portlandon on July 9, 2014 at 1:38 PM

BTW, one has to admire the (D)s for making one of the remedies for keeping executive overreach in check essentially meaningless.

rogerb on July 9, 2014 at 1:36 PM

But boy will they b!tch when a GOP president is running the show.

Bitter Clinger on July 9, 2014 at 1:38 PM

Palin knows Weasel Boehner is cowed… and Weasel Boehner himself confirms it.

viking01 on July 9, 2014 at 1:39 PM

I wish both Palin and Boehner would be honest, i.e., “We’d like to impeach Obama, but there’s no way we’d get a conviction, so the process would be useless.”

Of course, in Boehner’s case, I’m not so sure, since his actions show that he supports much of the Obama agenda.

thirteen28 on July 9, 2014 at 1:41 PM

I don’t have Palin’s power…of being able to kill an idea simply by supporting it.
Ha.

verbaluce on July 9, 2014 at 1:26 PM

Chicago is out? Chicago is OUT?

Bishop on July 9, 2014 at 1:42 PM

The last time we tried impeachment…

The Speaker of the House was forced to resign (We hate Boehner, but we don’t want him forced out like that)

We lost a net 35 House seats at mi-terms – before ‘impeachment’ discussion, we expected 30 new House seats, and ended up losing 5.

Clinton’s popularity rose.

faraway on July 9, 2014 at 1:44 PM

I don’t have Palin’s power…of being able to kill an idea simply by supporting it.
Ha.

verbaluce on July 9, 2014 at 1:26 PM

Yet here you are, snarking away on the second impeachment thread HA has posted since– anybody know when? Unless you count the Boehner lawsuit threads. And now Mika is blubbering away on MSNBC about the idea. As several others here have no noted, Palin’s point was to jump-start the discussion… 3 months before the mid-terms– and so she did.

de rigueur on July 9, 2014 at 1:44 PM

Well, of course he does.

What has Boehner done to fight back against the president’s encroachment? Oh that’s right. After six years he finally sued him.

Way to fight back, coward.

It’s about time we got some real leadership in Washington. Nobody in the GOP fights for us.

Marcus Traianus on July 9, 2014 at 1:44 PM

If Boehner does not think that Obama qualifies for impeachment by the House, and then removal by the Senate, then that is grounds for believing that Boehner should be removed from (a) the Speakership and (b) the House.

If Boehner thinks Obama should not be impeached because that would be “bad politics,” then, again, Boehner should be removed.

Mdirmeie on July 9, 2014 at 1:44 PM

OK, let’s look at the results of bringing impeachment.

1) Impeachment is successful. Swear in President Biden. D’oh! Biden would be the nominee in 2016 and could possibly be President for the next 8 years.

Nethicus on July 9, 2014 at 1:21 PM

Agreed, and removing Hitler would have made Himmler the Fuhrer.

Why have laws against executive criminality if the laws will only be enforced based on the acceptability of the next guy in line?

Bishop on July 9, 2014 at 1:46 PM

She has a lot of people talking about it, which I believe is her short term goal. Keep the presidential incompetence and lawlessness front and center. Elections four months away.

Viator on July 9, 2014 at 1:31 PM

Just so.

de rigueur on July 9, 2014 at 1:47 PM

Impeaching Obama does not make Biden President!

huckleberryfriend on July 9, 2014 at 1:31 PM

A successful impeachment’s end process (after Senate trial) is the removal of the official. If you’re not intending for this to happen, then you’re essentially wasting everyone’s time, yes?

Unless you think the Democratic Senate would suddenly have a change of heart and vote to remove Obama from office.

We saw how well that worked with Clinton.

If you were a prosecutor, and you knew your jury would have 8 people who would acquit the person you arrested, would you waste your time & resources on a trial you’d know you’d lose?

This is NOT a reason to argue against impeachment. And besides, could Biden be any worse than Obama?

Bitter Clinger on July 9, 2014 at 1:34 PM

Obviously you haven’t been paying attention to Joe Biden for the past 20 years. Obama’s an amateur, and Biden’s a moron who continuously sticks his foot in his mouth in a “lovable” way. Remember the 2012 Vice-Presidential Debate where he became the Fearmonger-in-Chief– and people seemed OK with that.

That particular thought should scare the tar out of anyone.

Nethicus on July 9, 2014 at 1:48 PM

I bet General Pickett called his people cowards as they rushed headlong into a massacre.

Let’s be smart about this.

Mass suicide is not the answer.

Fight smart.

faraway on July 9, 2014 at 1:49 PM

Impeaching Obama does not make Biden President!

huckleberryfriend on July 9, 2014 at 1:31 PM

Ummmm. Say what? Who do you think would be President if Obama was impeached and convicted?

If all you want is impeachment WITHOUT conviction – that is just playing a silly game.

I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture – Animal House

Mordaukar on July 9, 2014 at 1:49 PM

If the GOP really left 3 million votes on the sidelines in 2012, it was because they abandoned conservative first principles and instead went for what they thought were winning political policies. Pick Mitt Romney, he is the most electable! But Romney is a progressive with absolutely not one single conservative first principle in his entire body. They chose to fund every aspect of government Obama wanted, not wanting to be accused of being obstructionists. They reneged on promises to reign in spending made in 2010. All in all, they did everything in their power to suppress their own voters that they could do with “plausible” dependability still attached.
Of course, we conservatives did not see any of it as plausible in the least. We see it for what it is. Enabling of the regressive agenda under Obama. I did one entire get out the vote activity in 2012 and it was for ‘selfish’ reasons. I wanted to get a chance to talk to Mitt Romney’s son and hopefully convince him to talk to his father about what he needs to do to actually get out the vote. “Cut, Cap and Balance!” and keep hammering on the idea that we cannot in good conscience keep adding to the debt that we build upon the backs of as yet unborn children. It is immoral to keep spending more than we pay in taxes and expect someone who has no vote to pick up the bill.
It was a wasted effort, as everyone already was claiming they would vote for Romney, only a few seemed enthusiastic about it though.
If millions of Republicans stayed home it was because the GOP itself suppresed their own voters. That was it for me on the get out the vote effort. I can reliably, when there is someone to vote for, get out 15 votes for our candidates or more. I barely roused myself enough to send in my absentee ballot in 2012 and it was very grudgingly and in hindsight something I regret, having voted for Romney.

astonerii on July 9, 2014 at 1:49 PM

OK, let’s look at the results of bringing impeachment.

1) Impeachment is successful. Swear in President Biden. D’oh! Biden would be the nominee in 2016 and could possibly be President for the next 8 years.

Nethicus on July 9, 2014 at 1:21 PM

Agreed, and removing Hitler would have made Himmler the Fuhrer.

Why have laws against executive criminality if the laws will only be enforced based on the acceptability of the next guy in line?

Bishop on July 9, 2014 at 1:46 PM

Why have laws at all?

Anarchy…It’s the new black preferred by the Oligarchy

workingclass artist on July 9, 2014 at 1:50 PM

The Speaker of the House was forced to resign (We hate Boehner, but we don’t want him forced out like that)

faraway on July 9, 2014 at 1:44 PM

I’m not saying impeachment would gain us a d@mn thing, or is the right move at this point, I would much rather the House use it’s other power and start defunding things…

But I don’t hold your reservations about Boehner, and frankly, I don’t give a $h!t HOW he’s forced out, as long as he’s gone, and replaced by an actual Conservative with an real set of b@lls.

Meople on July 9, 2014 at 1:51 PM

Almost 60 millions people voted for Romney… That is 20 times more than the 3 millions Republicans who stayed home, if we are to believe that there are 3 millions f***ing morons who stayed home preferring that Obama wins the elections…

mnjg on July 9, 2014 at 1:29 PM

Three million “let-it-burn” morons? God help us.

slickwillie2001 on July 9, 2014 at 1:51 PM

If Boehner does not think that Obama qualifies for impeachment by the House, and then removal by the Senate, then that is grounds for believing that Boehner should be removed from (a) the Speakership and (b) the House.

If Boehner thinks Obama should not be impeached because that would be “bad politics,” then, again, Boehner should be removed.

Mdirmeie on July 9, 2014 at 1:44 PM

No…cause see I’m filing a lawsuit to nowhere or something…Hey are you gonna finish that drink? – Speaker Boehner

workingclass artist on July 9, 2014 at 1:52 PM

Lawlessness. It’s the word of the day, and the rest of our lives. Get used to it.

S.P. Link on July 9, 2014 at 1:38 PM

The GOP used to be the party of Law and Order. Now it is the party of the political windsock

portlandon on July 9, 2014 at 1:54 PM

Three million “let-it-burn” morons? God help us.

slickwillie2001 on July 9, 2014 at 1:51 PM

That’s nothing compared to the revolt the GOP will have on it’s hands if they elect another establishment, (D)-Lite candidate in 2016.

Not only will it mean another (D) President, but it will finish off the GOP entirely.

Meople on July 9, 2014 at 1:56 PM

Almost 60 millions people voted for Romney… That is 20 times more than the 3 millions Republicans who stayed home, if we are to believe that there are 3 millions f***ing morons who stayed home preferring that Obama wins the elections…

mnjg on July 9, 2014 at 1:29 PM

Three million “let-it-burn” morons? God help us.

slickwillie2001 on July 9, 2014 at 1:51 PM

I’m done voting against people. I want someone to vote for. I’ve voted for the Republican guy for every time for a long time. But I’m not doing it again unless he actually represents my values. And my values include having enlisted multiple times when the chips were down.

You can call me a moron all you want … from a safe, anonymous internet distance.

M240H on July 9, 2014 at 1:58 PM

She coupled the impeachment call with “how much longer can I [anyone] stick with a party that won’t stick with its principles?” And that’s the part no one’s talking about.

de rigueur on July 9, 2014 at 1:36 PM

Palin also says that voters should “vehemently oppose all politicians on the left or right who hesitate to impeach Obama.”

As recently as this morning, Joni Ernst hesitated and now does not support impeachment.

Sasse hasn’t made a statement yet.

So I guess Palin’s message is oppose Mama Grizzly Joni Ernst, and wait to see if we should oppose Ben Sasse.

RUexperienced on July 9, 2014 at 1:59 PM

Boehner: I disagree with Palin about impeaching Obama

Wow!

Oh, I though he said he agreed with Palin.

Never mind.

Dr. ZhivBlago on July 9, 2014 at 2:00 PM

BTW, one has to admire the (D)s for making one of the remedies for keeping executive overreach in check essentially meaningless.
 
rogerb on July 9, 2014 at 1:36 PM

 
But boy will they b!tch when a GOP president is running the show.
 
Bitter Clinger on July 9, 2014 at 1:38 PM

 
Yeah, one almost looks forward to an (R) president just so liberals are allowed to once again care about those kinds of things.

rogerb on July 9, 2014 at 2:00 PM

I bet General Pickett called his people cowards as they rushed headlong into a massacre.

Let’s be smart about this.

Mass suicide is not the answer.

Fight smart.

faraway on July 9, 2014 at 1:49 PM

Or we could look at the 1st Minnesota Volunteer Regiment who charged an entire Confederate brigade to keep the rebs from taking the uber-strategic Cemetery Ridge during the same battle.

It looked like suicide but they stopped the brigade and held the ridge.

Bishop on July 9, 2014 at 2:01 PM

Three million “let-it-burn” morons? God help us.

slickwillie2001 on July 9, 2014 at 1:51 PM

That right there is YOUR problem. You are one of those people who has to rely on the self sacrifices of others in order to live your life. Here you think that it is God’s duty to prevent you from living in a shit hole of a nation of someone elses choosing. You think it is someone elses duty to vote to live in the shit hole of a nation that you choose. Either way, we get a shit hole of a nation to live in. Frankly, I do not consent to Obama and deep down inside I also do not consent to Romney or any other Socialist (R) as my president.

astonerii on July 9, 2014 at 2:01 PM

Why have laws at all?

Anarchy…It’s the new black preferred by the Oligarchy

workingclass artist on July 9, 2014 at 1:50 PM

If the Senate Democrats weren’t devoted to their socialist agenda, then there should be an ethical consideration for impeachment of Obama. Unfortunately, it’s not the case.

And anarchy is a society without laws. In this case, we are restricted by the laws of the land from taking the actions necessary to correct abuse by one branch of government.

I’d call for a new Constitutional Convention, but it would simply exascerbate the problem as people would want it to be “bipartisan” (read: do most of the things the Democrats want or be labeled a racist, misogynistic, bigoted homophobe).

The BEST method to fix this is to get a majority in the Senate in 2014 (and keep it) and a Republican in the White House in 2016 and start repairing the damage quickly.

Nethicus on July 9, 2014 at 2:02 PM

M240H on July 9, 2014 at 1:58 PM

That seems to be the new GOP message: “Yeah we suck but at least we aren’t those guys over there.”

Wow. Yeah. Makes a girl want to run out and vote with a giant shiite-eating grin on her face.

Bishop on July 9, 2014 at 2:03 PM

If the GOP really left 3 million votes on the sidelines in 2012, it was because they abandoned conservative first principles and instead went for what they thought were winning political policies. Pick Mitt Romney, he is the most electable! But Romney is a progressive with absolutely not one single conservative first principle in his entire body. They chose to fund every aspect of government Obama wanted, not wanting to be accused of being obstructionists. They reneged on promises to reign in spending made in 2010. All in all, they did everything in their power to suppress their own voters that they could do with “plausible” dependability still attached.
Of course, we conservatives did not see any of it as plausible in the least. We see it for what it is. Enabling of the regressive agenda under Obama. I did one entire get out the vote activity in 2012 and it was for ‘selfish’ reasons. I wanted to get a chance to talk to Mitt Romney’s son and hopefully convince him to talk to his father about what he needs to do to actually get out the vote. “Cut, Cap and Balance!” and keep hammering on the idea that we cannot in good conscience keep adding to the debt that we build upon the backs of as yet unborn children. It is immoral to keep spending more than we pay in taxes and expect someone who has no vote to pick up the bill.
It was a wasted effort, as everyone already was claiming they would vote for Romney, only a few seemed enthusiastic about it though.
If millions of Republicans stayed home it was because the GOP itself suppresed their own voters. That was it for me on the get out the vote effort. I can reliably, when there is someone to vote for, get out 15 votes for our candidates or more. I barely roused myself enough to send in my absentee ballot in 2012 and it was very grudgingly and in hindsight something I regret, having voted for Romney.

astonerii on July 9, 2014 at 1:49 PM

My thoughts EXACTLY. The millions of people that refused to vote for Romney wasn’t the reason he lost. He lost because he wasn’t Conservative enough to earn their votes. And given the anti-Oblablah sentiment already motivating them, Romney proved he WAS just that bad of a candidate.

Meople on July 9, 2014 at 2:04 PM

RUexperienced on July 9, 2014 at 1:59 PM

RUStupid

idesign on July 9, 2014 at 2:05 PM

Hurry up and do the lawsuit already. Time’s a wasting.

Buddahpundit on July 9, 2014 at 2:05 PM

Everyone knows Obama could be impeached, but never convicted. If he can’t be convicted why impeach him, his history will be more than enough to impeach him, his policies, and his impact.

This may be one of the few times I’ve disagreed with Sarah Palin, but only about saying the “I” word, because the Democrats are trying to push the meme that a vote for Republicans is a vote for impeachment.

bflat879 on July 9, 2014 at 2:05 PM

While Obama would be Impeached in the House, since the GOP has a majority, the Senate would not vote 2/3s to convict as with Clinton. Even though Obama has done things that Nixon only thought about, getting rid of Obama via this political mechanism in the Constitution, will not work. It has to be a Senate take over and more losses in the Judiciary and this law suit. And yes Nixon and Clinton were usually realists who moved away from ideological positions when they were doomed to failure, however Obama just knows he is “Mr. Know-It-All” and everyone else is just so stupid in not seeing he is right. While Obama may have more tricks up his sleeve, but if he moves further towards authoritarian rule all bets are off since even Democrats are deserting him.

amr on July 9, 2014 at 2:06 PM

RUexperienced on July 9, 2014 at 1:59 PM

Palin’s had her say. I suspect Joni “I was for it before I was against it” Ernst will have to have several more says before no one understands what her position is anymore. She’ll make a fine GOP candidate.

de rigueur on July 9, 2014 at 2:08 PM

That’s nothing compared to the revolt the GOP will have on it’s hands if they elect another establishment, (D)-Lite candidate in 2016.

Not only will it mean another (D) President, but it will finish off the GOP entirely.

Meople on July 9, 2014 at 1:56 PM

Yep they think 3 million was bad- just wait. I didn’t stay home in 08 or 2012, but if you run a McCain or a Romney again- this time I will. Not voting for the less of two of the same evil.

melle1228 on July 9, 2014 at 2:09 PM

And what if the GOP doesn’t win the senate this year, then what? Or what if they do win the senate, keep the house, but fail to win the preznidency in 2016? OR…or…they fail to win the senate but get the WH?

Because if any of those situations occur then the Usual Suspects will chime-in with “We need to wait until the perfect time before we act” and bingo-bango, the nation continues it’s death-slide.

Bishop on July 9, 2014 at 2:09 PM

My thoughts EXACTLY. The millions of people that refused to vote for Romney wasn’t the reason he lost. He lost because he wasn’t Conservative enough to earn their votes. And given the anti-Oblablah sentiment already motivating them, Romney proved he WAS just that bad of a candidate.

Meople on July 9, 2014 at 2:04 PM

You are a little off from what I meant.
I meant that the three million voters left home, were left home by the very conservative voters who still, like me, held their noses and voted for the loser, but did not go cajole their family, friends and coworkers (many who are republicans) to get to the polls.
I nominally bring with me 15 votes to the polls. Some years as many as 30. 2012 I brought only myself. You only need 200,000 out of 60,000,000 like me to lose 3,000,000 votes and the election. That is effectively only 1/3% of us.
Many people, for what ever reasons, just simply are not motivated to go to the poles on their own behalf. They need a little nudging and a little information and to be told they do matter. It is hard to get up the juices to put that much effort into 30 other people when the party is basically shoving shit down your throat and demanding that you declare it the best caviar you ever tasted!

astonerii on July 9, 2014 at 2:11 PM

And what if the GOP doesn’t win the senate this year, then what? Or what if they do win the senate, keep the house, but fail to win the preznidency in 2016? OR…or…they fail to win the senate but get the WH?

Because if any of those situations occur then the Usual Suspects will chime-in with “We need to wait until the perfect time before we act” and bingo-bango, the nation continues it’s death-slide.

Bishop on July 9, 2014 at 2:09 PM

There will always be another reason why the GOP CAN’T accomplish what they want to.

They need the House, Senator, POTUS, or SCOTUS etc.

melle1228 on July 9, 2014 at 2:12 PM

Maybe the GOP is acting on its principles.

S.P. Link on July 9, 2014 at 2:04 PM

Oh, I think everyone commenting here would agree with that. Including those who believe that “we just wanna win” isn’t exactly a “principle.” Not for sound governance, anyway.

de rigueur on July 9, 2014 at 2:14 PM

Yep they think 3 million was bad- just wait. I didn’t stay home in 08 or 2012, but if you run a McCain or a Romney again- this time I will. Not voting for the less of two of the same evil.

melle1228 on July 9, 2014 at 2:09 PM

Yes, I did the same thing, held my nose, bent over and voted for McLame and Romney.

Well, I’m done holding my nose and bending over while voting, from here on out.

If the (R)’s want my vote, they can support and nominate an actual Conservative. Then the establishment can do what WE did in ’08 and ’12, and hold THEIR noses while they vote for the Conservative GOP nominee. That is IF they want to WIN that is. Some probably don’t.

Meople on July 9, 2014 at 2:14 PM

Timeline of Obama systematically undermining immigration law with regulations, memos and other administrative measures. This is an impeachable offence.

http://www.sessions.senate.gov/public/_cache/files/d5cc9b42-16b4-4279-9f0a-bf7372d7c277/nonenforcement-timeline-updated.pdf

There isn’t anything wrong with our immigration system other than Obama obstructing enforcement. And now Obama wants $3.8 billion more to welcome illegal aliens with taxpayer-funded goodies. Congress must decline that request.

We welcome more than 1.1 million LEGAL immigrants per year (MORE THAN ANY COUNTRY ON EARTH) in addition to granting 700,000 temporary permits, and 500,000 student visas. We don’t have enough jobs for citizens as it is. Deport all illegals ICE and CBP encounter! Starting with Obama’s “dreamers”!

azpatriotsdotcom on July 9, 2014 at 2:16 PM

This is no surprise from Boehner at all. The establishment republicans have made it clear that their strategy for the mid-terms is to do nothing that makes political waves–and they have made good on that strategy by accomplishing very little indeed for almost a year now. Remember the establishment’s wailing and gnashing of teeth after Ted Cruz’ filibuster. These good-for-nothing republicans promptly joined with the democrats to pass senate rules making sure that there would be no more conservative filibusters that could potentially threaten their gravy job. Folks, the GOP is WORTHLESS.

KickandSwimMom on July 9, 2014 at 2:16 PM

astonerii on July 9, 2014 at 2:11 PM

Ah, cool. Fair enough.

Meople on July 9, 2014 at 2:17 PM

Oh, there is one thing the establishment has pursued with a vigor–trying to crush conservatives and tea partiers.

KickandSwimMom on July 9, 2014 at 2:17 PM

But no one with any intelligence or political savvy pays attention to Sarah Palin.

Meredith on July 9, 2014 at 1:09 PM

Obviously you pay attention to what Palin has to say. What would be the reason for you come here to comment about someone you are trying to convince the world is irrelevant?

What Palin has to say matters to you, so you are forced to comment.

Otherwise you are admitting that you are not intelligent and you have no political savvy.

Which is it?

Jayrae on July 9, 2014 at 2:19 PM

Of course you don’t, you gutless wonder. God, I’m so ashamed of all of them.

blackgriffin on July 9, 2014 at 2:21 PM

Run Sarah,run-third party.At least we will destroy this lame excuse for an “opposition” party.Besides,you have more balls than all the GOP Congressmen put together.Have decided I don’t care who the nominee of the GOP is in 2016,I will not vote for a Republican ever again.

redware on July 9, 2014 at 2:21 PM

Almost 60 millions people voted for Romney… That is 20 times more than the 3 millions Republicans who stayed home, if we are to believe that there are 3 millions f***ing morons who stayed home preferring that Obama wins the elections…
mnjg on July 9, 2014 at 1:29 PM

Yawn. How many of those 60 millions held their noses and pulled for Mittwit while wishing a more conservative candidate was on the ballot? How many pulled for Oboobie while holding their noses wishing for a more Reaganite candidate that really was pro America, pro middle class?

There will come a tipping point where many will join your so-called fing morons in saying no more, who’s the moron then?

Love it or hate it, because Sarah brought it up, all the RINOs will now have to discuss it even as they resist it much. Bwahaha.

AH_C on July 9, 2014 at 2:24 PM

And what if the GOP doesn’t win the senate this year, then what? Or what if they do win the senate, keep the house, but fail to win the preznidency in 2016? OR…or…they fail to win the senate but get the WH?

Because if any of those situations occur then the Usual Suspects will chime-in with “We need to wait until the perfect time before we act” and bingo-bango, the nation continues it’s death-slide.

Bishop on July 9, 2014 at 2:09 PM

I REALLY hate to say this, but unless we nominate and elect a STRONG Conservative leader, willing to stand up to the establishment and lead, even IF the establishment (R)’s keep the House, win the Senate AND the White House…STILL nothing will change.

The ONLY way anything AT ALL will change is if a strong Conservative makes the establishment change. The establishment has already proven they’re unwilling to REALLY fight for us without being forced to.

Meople on July 9, 2014 at 2:25 PM

Not shocked.

sorrowen on July 9, 2014 at 2:27 PM

Meople on July 9, 2014 at 2:25 PM

What we really need is a Reagan, a Newt and I cannot think of a past Senate Majority leader that was any good. But I guess we could go with Ted Cruz and hope he is what he seems.
If we could get those three in leadership positions, we might have hope… even then, little hope.

astonerii on July 9, 2014 at 2:35 PM

The Dems control the Senate. Thus…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HpYkiPXi40

Kermit on July 9, 2014 at 2:39 PM

Boehner: I disagree with Palin about impeaching Obama

You would, you gutless, Washington-Insider Boot-Licker! What does the NSA / Obama have on you?

easyt65 on July 9, 2014 at 2:44 PM

Boehner needs to be gone. He has been an awful Speaker. With Boehner in control, Obama has had a free hand. Boehner and company have failed to stop the Democrats because they are too busy pandering to the Chamber of Commerce and K-street, and attacking Conservatives who are actually trying to save the country.

searcher on July 9, 2014 at 2:47 PM

remember when the oranged faced drunk played 18 holes with obama?

his been in ogabe’s back pocket since then.

renalin on July 9, 2014 at 2:51 PM

What does a president have to do to get impeached nowadays? Be witnessed personally murdering someone by a person who isn’t a Democrat?

Zenji on July 9, 2014 at 2:52 PM

What does a president have to do to get impeached nowadays? Be witnessed personally murdering someone by a person who isn’t a Democrat?

Zenji on July 9, 2014 at 2:52 PM

Video, or it never happened.

I have said the following and think it is likely true.

Obama could order our navy into a position where it would be easy to be destroyed by our enemies and he still would not be impeached.

astonerii on July 9, 2014 at 2:57 PM

Proving once more that Palin has more balls than Boehner ever did.

Midas on July 9, 2014 at 2:58 PM

Palin KNEW that the Beltway GOP and a whole boatload of her clients (such as Ernst, for example)’ would run for the Tall Grass.

That’s what separates Palin for everyone else. She’s the one with the guts to lead the vanguard.

That’s why she’s the Leader of the Reagan Wing of the Party.

victor82 on July 9, 2014 at 3:02 PM

http://firethespeaker.com/

diogenes on July 9, 2014 at 3:03 PM

Self-serving, spineless, gutless Repub-o-cRAT wimp boehner: “I won’t impeach the worst perpetrator of high crimes and misdemeanors against the US Constitution as the worst president in American history.”

I’m shocked at that – I tell you, I’m shocked!

MicahStone on July 9, 2014 at 3:07 PM

The BEST method to fix this is to get a majority in the Senate in 2014 (and keep it) and a Republican in the White House in 2016 and start repairing the damage quickly.

Nethicus on July 9, 2014 at 2:02 PM

You must be under the age of twenty-five.

It just won’t ever happen.

Get this straight in your head: The political spectrum is NOT a pendulum. It’s a ratcheting noose. Damage is NOT ever repaired. The FedGov is a monster with its own inertia; President Sarah Palin and a Congress full of Sarah Palins couldn’t stop it at this point.

fossten on July 9, 2014 at 3:09 PM

If the WH Marxist hasn’t done anything that merits impeachment then why is Boehner suing him? Answer is because Boehner knows the suit isn’t going anywhere.

bgibbs1000 on July 9, 2014 at 3:09 PM

Sadly, this is a turning point for Palin.

She has ‘abdicated’ (heh) her role as king-maker with this move.

No candidate is going to want her endorsement now. They will not publicly say they are for impeachment.

It’s been a nice run Sarah. Good luck.

Obama and the GOPe are jumping with glee today.

faraway on July 9, 2014 at 1:00 PM

How many times now has Palin “destroyed herself for good this time”?

She ain’t goin’ anywhere.

Brian1972 on July 9, 2014 at 3:13 PM

How about this for a compromise?

1. Shelve the impeachment talk for a few months to eliminate the “Look at those white folk trying to lynch that man ‘cuz he’s black” response from the LSM.

2. Let the acid drip of scandal and incompetence continue to etch its mark into the collective conscience of the voting public that isn’t simply focused on obtaining/maintaining/increasing its share of the public wealth.

3. See if the GOP (RINOs and Truecons alike) can actually gain control of the Senate.

4. If Senate control passes to the GOP, introduce the articles of impeachment in January 2015.

5. Remove Obama. Seat Biden.

6. Watch Biden and Clinton claw each others eyes out for 18 months.

7. Break the microwave making bag after bag of popcorn.

8. Go down to Petco and buy a sparkly unicorn since they are on sale this month and as a bonus you get the ruby-encrusted collar for free with the purchase.

dreadnought62 on July 9, 2014 at 3:18 PM

dreadnought62 on July 9, 2014 at 3:18 PM

How about we just use all methods of public debate to continue to increase the pressure on this White House from now through the time he leaves, utilizing the real facts up to and including whether he deserves impeachment?

I recall many conservatives pointing out that Nixon’s articles of impeachment contained a plan to use the IRS to harass political enemies, and there wasn’t all this hand wringing doomsayer talk about it.

Brian1972 on July 9, 2014 at 3:25 PM

How about we just use all methods of public debate to continue to increase the pressure on this White House from now through the time he leaves, utilizing the real facts up to and including whether he deserves impeachment?

Brian1972 on July 9, 2014 at 3:25 PM

That would be steps #1 and 2 in my master plan above. Now, if you’ll excuse me, I have a unicorn with my name on it.

dreadnought62 on July 9, 2014 at 3:30 PM

Yeah, talk of impeachment is premature as long as we don’t hold the Senate.

In the meantime, there’s no reason to fund agencies like the IRS, DOJ, etc. You’d just be giving money straight to the DNC’s operations.

Iblis on July 9, 2014 at 3:32 PM

Sarah Palin has cojones and passion , the GOP in Washington are useless and their fanboys know it. Sarah Palin is so right and she is the leader conservatives need and I hope she knows it. Run Sarah Run . Sarah Palin 2016

Unaffiliated4P on July 9, 2014 at 3:39 PM

Yeah, talk of impeachment is premature as long as we don’t hold the Senate.

In the meantime, there’s no reason to fund agencies like the IRS, DOJ, etc. You’d just be giving money straight to the DNC’s operations.

Iblis on July 9, 2014 at 3:32 PM

No, I disagree with that. Filing Articles of Impeachment is premature without the Senate, but talk of it can be useful in the meantime to draw attention to how serious this President’s transgressions have been.

Brian1972 on July 9, 2014 at 3:39 PM

That would be steps #1 and 2 in my master plan above. Now, if you’ll excuse me, I have a unicorn with my name on it.

dreadnought62 on July 9, 2014 at 3:30 PM

Some “master plan” you got there.

Brian1972 on July 9, 2014 at 3:40 PM

If you don’t agree with Sarah Palin , then you are scared of the media . John Boehner is a dickless betamale that is scared of the media and so are the GOP losers that stand with Boehner . I stand with Sarah Palin .

Unaffiliated4P on July 9, 2014 at 3:41 PM

Palin is on Hannity radio right now.

Brian1972 on July 9, 2014 at 3:42 PM

Iblis on July 9, 2014 at 3:32 PM

We cannot use the power of the purse either according to people like you. In fact, with just the house, the Democrats have absolute control of everything and the only thing we are allowed to do is rubber stamp everything, otherwise it is racist and we will lose the next election.

Of course, this is how the Republicans act when we have a mandate from the electorate. They get voted into power under a conservative agenda and then enact a regressive agenda under the guise of not wanting to lose the next election to the Democrats.

astonerii on July 9, 2014 at 3:42 PM

They get voted into power under a conservative agenda and then enact a regressive agenda under the guise of not wanting to lose the next election to the Democrats.

astonerii on July 9, 2014 at 3:42 PM

Bingo.

Plus, #rememberMS

Brian1972 on July 9, 2014 at 3:45 PM

Sarah Palin for President 2016 . John Boehner for Happy Hour .

Unaffiliated4P on July 9, 2014 at 3:45 PM

I bet General Pickett called his people cowards as they rushed headlong into a massacre.

Let’s be smart about this.

Mass suicide is not the answer.

Fight smart.

faraway on July 9, 2014 at 1:49 PM

Fight with what? The game is rigged and has been going on for so long. Look around you-what makes you think that your fellow Americans are going to do anything but cower and go along with whatever the government wants? In other words, they will sacrifice Liberty over security (perceived or not, makes no difference) for their families.

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As to your Pickett reference-Pickett watched from behind; so did Lee. But I bet that the (few) Americans who have any fairly decent knowledge of American history have at least heard of “Pickett’s Charge” (this fairy tale name was due to mostly to his wife’s efforts after the war…Pickett was one of three division commanders involved with the assault; more properly should have been called “Longstreet’s Charge”). And of course most have heard of General Lee, but I suspect that’s mostly due to the popularity of the The Dukes of Hazzard.

Be that as it may, probably the single most important officer of that battle (and maybe of the entire war) was a non-West Point officer-Col. Joshua Chamberlain. In the South, one of their most brilliant commanders was General Forrest, also never attended West Point. During WW I one of our greatest heroes was Col. Charles Whittlesey-another non-Point officer.

Then there were the Point grad disasters like Hooker and McClellan on the northern side. Actually, Pickett had less than a sterling career himself. He was probably on the chopping block when Lee wanted to reorganize the ANV, but Lee got sick and George fell between the cracks. George was off at a shad bake while his division was routed at Five Forks late in the war…the defeat that led directly to Appomattox.

And these Point officers got caught with their pants down at the Bulge and at Chosin. And then we had oh-so brilliant leaders like Westmoreland in Vietnam…where he got caught with his pants down by the Tet Offensive.

But West Point is still around.

My point is that these Federal institutions, the Federal government itself has made itself the God of this country. Doesn’t matter how many disasters and how much mediocrity it is mired in, it is Washington that rules the roost. Not only is incompetence excused at the expense of the American citizen, they have no problem in stealing from us, engaging in murder, interfering with other countries, spying on us, and God knows what else.

This government exists for the sole purpose of maintaining the power of those who clawed their way to the top of it, and paying off those who helped them to get there and stay there. We supposedly have no aristocracy nor a noble class in the U.S. BS.

They’ve been peeing down our backs and telling us it’s raining for 200 years now, and we believe them. Because inside our slave quarters we have cable TV-all must be well with the “system”. They have us do tricks, too…they’re called “wars”-but it’s always about defending our Freedom. Yeah, I guess the Kaiser, the Spanish Parliament, Ho Chi Minh, Aidid and Saddam Hussein had invasion plans drawn up for the U.S. Oh, and Hitler, too-never mind that most of his guys were armed with bolt action rifles designed in the 19th century and they had to use horses for much of their transport-they could have taken over at any moment, and if we didn’t, we’d all be speaking German today…riiiigght.

Problem is, there are way too many (well-meaning) Conservatives who buy into their BS. All they have to do is wave the Flag in front of us and mutter something about George Washington, the Greatest Generation, “Evil”, etc. and we’re putty in their hands.

These are criminal organizations in charge, and unlike Al Capone, we can’t even get them for tax evasion. There is no solution except to let that rotten structure collapse from its own weight.

Dr. ZhivBlago on July 9, 2014 at 3:55 PM

This is what Andy McCarthy thinks of Boehner’s lawsuit:

Boehner Is Bringing a Whistle to a Gunfight
A congressional lawsuit is precisely the wrong weapon to combat Obama’s lawlessness.

…Law enforcement is a plenary executive power, and thus any court judgment against Obama would have to be enforced by . . . Obama. That is not going to happen.

A judge’s ruling that the president is violating the law would have exactly the same practical effect as Speaker Boehner’s whining that the president is violating the law: none….

…The Framers gave us a Constitution for a free people confident in its capacity for political self-governance. Consequently, the great public-policy questions, including those that implicate our governing framework — the separation of powers that prevents tyranny — are supposed to be determined by elected officials who answer directly to the citizens. When those questions are punted to the politically unaccountable courts, we are essentially asking to be ruled by lawyers who cannot be removed from office if they get these questions wrong.

INC on July 9, 2014 at 3:55 PM

You when Boehner will agree with Sarah Palin about 0bama?

When she says:

“I’d like to get into the hot tub with Barry and Reggie.”

(I originally wrote something a bit more pithy, but self censored, just in time)

LegendHasIt on July 9, 2014 at 4:02 PM

Dr. ZhivBlago on July 9, 2014 at 3:55 PM

Geez, all the guy said was fight smarter. Was your point to tell him that it’s all hopeless?

thebrokenrattle on July 9, 2014 at 4:03 PM

There is no solution except to let that rotten structure collapse from its own weight.

Dr. ZhivBlago on July 9, 2014 at 3:55 PM

Exactly. Obama is collapsing from his own policies. We just keep spreading the sunlight over the cockroaches.

We don’t need to do anything to stop this process.

faraway on July 9, 2014 at 4:04 PM

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