UN to U.S.: Why not treat these illegals crossing your border as “refugees”?

posted at 11:21 am on July 8, 2014 by Allahpundit

The bad news for illegals: Even if you qualify as a “refugee,” winning an asylum case in federal court is difficult under current law. The good news: The guy in charge right now isn’t a stickler about legal procedure. And besides, the “refugee” label is more of a political weapon under these circumstances than a legal one. It’s one thing to turn a blind eye to illegal immigrants streaming across the border, but who could be so hard-hearted as to deport a “refugee”?

Don’t fret much about the label, though. Most of these kids will never report to their immigration hearing once they’re released by the Border Patrol, so whatever you call them, they’re here to stay.

United Nations officials are pushing for many of the Central Americans fleeing to the U.S. to be treated as refugees displaced by armed conflict, a designation meant to increase pressure on the United States to accept tens of thousands of people currently ineligible for asylum.

Officials with the U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees say they hope to see a regional agreement on that status Thursday when migration and interior department representatives from the U.S., Mexico, and Central America meet in Nicaragua. The group will discuss updating a 30-year-old declaration regarding the obligations nations have to aid refugees…

Most of the people widely considered to be refugees by the international community are fleeing more traditional political or ethnic conflicts like those in Syria or the Sudan. Central Americans would be among the first modern migrants considered refugees because they are fleeing violence and extortion at the hands of criminal gangs.

A special new category of refugee, now conveniently available for amnesty shills in the United States to argue that illegal immigration should continue unimpeded for humanitarian reasons. Assuming that a regional agreement is reached, it would have no legal weight in the U.S. — unless of course His Majesty the King declareth that it shall. Maybe that’s O’s next move if, after kinda sorta trying to slow the flow at the border, he decides there’s not much he can do after all and had better rebrand what’s happening to contain the political damage. With 300,000 more “refugees” on the way, I wonder how long he’ll give it before pivoting.

Speaking of which, Obama was planning to ask Congress for $2 billion in added border resources plus a change to federal law so that children could be deported more expeditiously. Currently, kids caught coming across the border get to stay put in the U.S. while they await an immigration hearing; because there have been so many coming recently, the White House wanted to truncate the process so that they could be sent home right away. Obama’s pro-amnesty base was unhappy about that, though, so it’s time for a new pivot:

President Barack Obama is holding off for now on seeking new legal authority to send unaccompanied migrant kids back home faster from the Southern border, following criticism that the administration’s planned changes were too harsh…

The new approach comes after the White House told Congress last week that it would seek “additional authority” for the Homeland Security secretary to quickly return the minors back home. Immigration advocates understood this to mean that the children, who currently have the right to a hearing before an immigration judge, would lose that right and instead would have to make it through an initial screening with a Border Patrol agent.

The immigrant advocacy community responded angrily, with more than 200 groups signing onto a letter last week calling on Obama to reconsider the changes.

The Orwellian irony there is that amnesty fans are pounding the table about due process for minors caught entering the U.S. illegally when, in many cases, those same minors won’t end up availing themselves of the process that’s due. The point isn’t to make sure they get a hearing before being deported, it’s to create a pretext that allows them to remain in the U.S. for the time being so that they can quietly disappear into the population while supposedly waiting for their hearing. “Due process” is, in other words, being used as a tool to abet the breakdown in process, facilitating illegal immigration. And the chief executive is happy to let that go on, at least for now. Instead of pursuing summary deportation, he’s going to ask Congress for $3.8 billion in extra resources, nearly double his initial amount, to “process” all the new cases. Even though, as we all understand, many of them will end up going unprocessed, by design.

Makes me wonder, though: Does the fact that he’s making a concession to amnesty advocates now mean that he’s planning to go slow on that mass amnesty for illegals who are already here that he reportedly promised to them last week? He doesn’t want to seem too eager about all of this with the midterms four months away; that’s why he’s asking for extra enforcement resources, to show low-information voters that he cares about border security at a moment when they’re nervous about a new wave of illegal crossings. If he suddenly turns around and pulls a double whammy, resisting summary deportation for kids and issuing an executive order that amnestizes five million adults, he’ll demolish that perception. Presumably he’s planning to placate immigration groups now by going easy on young illegals while holding off on the big amnesty until next year, when there’s less to lose politically and more to gain for 2016.


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No.

Not a damn one of them is here out of need. They are all here out of WANT.

However, we could clear out the UN compound in NYC and house a bunch of them there. Think the UN will go for that?

ConstantineXI on July 8, 2014 at 11:25 AM

Midas to UN:

Why not go f*ck yourselves?

Midas on July 8, 2014 at 11:25 AM

Yup,…went from 2—— 3.8 Billion:

Unaccompanied minors at US southern border
1m
White House to seek $3.8 billion for border control, more than previously signaled – @washingtonpost
Read more on washingtonpost.com
================================

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/white-house-to-seek-38-billion-for-border-control-more-than-previously-signaled/2014/07/08/ac95a56e-06a9-11e4-bbf1-cc51275e7f8f_story.html?Post+generic=%3Ftid%3Dsm_twitter_washingtonpost

canopfor on July 8, 2014 at 11:00 AM

canopfor on July 8, 2014 at 11:25 AM

Boyo,…between Libs and the UN they are in Spin OverDrive!!

canopfor on July 8, 2014 at 11:26 AM

Unaccompanied minors at US southern border
1m
Rep. Blake Farenthold, R-Texas, on border crisis: ‘This really is Obama’s Katrina’ – @igorbobic
End of alert

https://twitter.com/igorbobic

canopfor on July 8, 2014 at 10:43 AM

canopfor on July 8, 2014 at 11:27 AM

UN helping set the stage so Obama can declare a “crisis” so he can issue an Executive Order on immigration.
#Fast&Furisous2
#ObamasKatrina

albill on July 8, 2014 at 11:27 AM

** Immigration **

Le Map:

Retweeted by Jordan Fabian
PewResearch FactTank @FactTank · Jul 2

Many child migrants detained at the US border are from violent & poor areas in Central America http://pewrsr.ch/1mGedd1

https://twitter.com/FactTank/status/484346823134674945/photo/1

canopfor on July 8, 2014 at 7:39 AM

canopfor on July 8, 2014 at 11:28 AM

$3.8 billion.

$3.8 f*cking billion.

Somehow they think we can afford that… but can’t afford actually securing the f*cking border.

No.

Send them all back to Mexico, and let *them* sort it out. And drop-kick Obama over there with them.

Midas on July 8, 2014 at 11:28 AM

UN helping set the stage so Obama can declare a “crisis” so he can issue an Executive Order on immigration.
#Fast&Furisous2
#ObamasKatrina

albill on July 8, 2014 at 11:27 AM

Which is no more law than if you and I signed a “Citizens Order” removing Obama from office and ordering him to vacate the Spite House immediately.

ConstantineXI on July 8, 2014 at 11:29 AM

Needs thread Theme:(sarc)

Tom Petty And The Heartbreakers – Refugee

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFnOfpIJL0M

canopfor on July 8, 2014 at 11:30 AM

If they’re refugees, why didn’t they take refuge in Mexico? Or Belize? Both are thousands of miles closer than the US.

LASue on July 8, 2014 at 11:30 AM

What a crock

cmsinaz on July 8, 2014 at 11:30 AM

Send them all back to Mexico, and let *them* sort it out. And drop-kick Obama over there with them.

Midas on July 8, 2014 at 11:28 AM

I’d give a billion dollars if next time Obama goes on a foreign trip, Air Force One takes off without him soon as he deplanes.

ConstantineXI on July 8, 2014 at 11:31 AM

$3.8 f*cking billion.

Somehow they think we can afford that… but can’t afford actually securing the f*cking border.

No.

Send them all back to Mexico, and let *them* sort it out. And drop-kick Obama over there with them.

Midas on July 8, 2014 at 11:28 AM

Can you not read? The billion of dollars is to secure the border. That’s what you want, no?

terryannonline on July 8, 2014 at 11:31 AM

Send them all back to Mexico, and let *them* sort it out. And drop-kick Obama over there with them.

Midas on July 8, 2014 at 11:28 AM

Oh and you racist piece of crap…..the kids aren’t from Mexico.

terryannonline on July 8, 2014 at 11:32 AM

The pictures I see seem to include a whole lot of older teenage boys/young men. Not who I picture when I think of unaccompanied minors.

LASue on July 8, 2014 at 11:33 AM

Could someone explain to me why these illegals are afforded a hearing? What is the basis? They aren’t citizens, why can’t they simply be returned to their country? Also, why are they released, presumably into the general public, instead of being held pending the hearing? I’m not trying to be snarky here, I really don’t understand this policy and would welcome some type of explanation because it just does not make sense to me.

SLMeyer on July 8, 2014 at 11:33 AM

Behind the doors at the White House they are salivating,”This ain’t no crisis, its an opportunity!!! Open them border gates & let the flood of illegals tear this country down!”

albill on July 8, 2014 at 11:33 AM

Sure, we can count them as refugees, so long as we house them in the UN building!

RblDiver on July 8, 2014 at 11:34 AM

If they’re from Central America then tell Mexico to treat them as refugees, unless the U.N. wants to label Mexico as a war-torn state in which case we should be blockading our border and defending our sovereign territory.

Bishop on July 8, 2014 at 11:34 AM

Can you not read? The billion of dollars is to secure the border. That’s what you want, no?

terryannonline on July 8, 2014 at 11:31 AM

Yeah, that’s it. “Secure the border.” Kind of like the Stimulus was for “shovel ready jobs.”

joekenha on July 8, 2014 at 11:35 AM

RE:Yup,…went from 2—— 3.8 Billion:

Peter Alexander @PeterAlexander · 4h

Am told Pres Obama’s request for emgy funding to deal w unaccompanied kids coming across border “significantly” more than $2B.

canopfor on July 8, 2014 at 11:36 AM

Obama: “Whoa, thanks, Ban-Ki Moon! I hadn’t thought of that!”

Ward Cleaver on July 8, 2014 at 11:36 AM

The point is not that the kids are Mexican- if they were, they could be immediately deported. The point is that if they are fleeing their homeland because of violence (bs, but whatever) , why not flee to the nearest “safe” place, which is Mexico. Mexico is complicit in shuttling them thru their country and dumping them here.

LASue on July 8, 2014 at 11:36 AM

$3.8 f*cking billion.

Somehow they think we can afford that… but can’t afford actually securing the f*cking border.

No.

Send them all back to Mexico, and let *them* sort it out. And drop-kick Obama over there with them.

Midas on July 8, 2014 at 11:28 AM

Can you not read? The billion of dollars is to secure the border. That’s what you want, no?

terryannonline on July 8, 2014 at 11:31 AM

Send them all back to Mexico, and let *them* sort it out. And drop-kick Obama over there with them.

Midas on July 8, 2014 at 11:28 AM

Oh and you racist piece of crap…..the kids aren’t from Mexico

Terry, are you fishing or are you really this stupid?

VegasRick on July 8, 2014 at 11:37 AM

Or is it 3.7Billion:

https://twitter.com/PeterAlexander

Peter Alexander @PeterAlexander · 6s

WH to seek $3.7B from Congress to respond to border crisis. Significantly more than first thought.

canopfor on July 8, 2014 at 11:37 AM

Send them all back to Mexico, and let *them* sort it out. And drop-kick Obama over there with them.
 
Midas on July 8, 2014 at 11:28 AM

 
Oh and you racist piece of crap…..the kids aren’t from Mexico.
 
terryannonline on July 8, 2014 at 11:32 AM

 
Did they cross through Canada?

rogerb on July 8, 2014 at 11:38 AM

Don’t fret much about the label, though. Most of these kids will never report to their immigration hearing once they’re released by the Border Patrol, so whatever you call them, they’re here to stay.

Exactly, Noah. Like I’ve been saying, those kids aren’t going back.

Ward Cleaver on July 8, 2014 at 11:38 AM

Presumably he’s planning to placate immigration groups now by going easy on young illegals while holding off on the big amnesty until next year, when there’s less to lose politically and more to gain for 2016.

Right, because mass amnesty via executive order will go over real well with conservative and indie voters when the economy is in the toilet and our welfare system is already broke.

Doughboy on July 8, 2014 at 11:39 AM

The UN is right:

http://www.latinorebels.com/2014/06/18/the-u-s-created-child-migrant-crisis/

libfreeordie on July 8, 2014 at 11:34 AM

ROFL

Your article fails to mention Zelaya refusing to step down when the Honduran supreme court decided he had to go after he took steps to change the national constitution.

And the violence in Chicago is the result of Mexican drug gangs?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Bishop on July 8, 2014 at 11:39 AM

Give Dear Leader $4 billion and he will close the deal on his Cloward Piven scheme…

d1carter on July 8, 2014 at 11:39 AM

Why should women and young men have to pay for old men’s erectile dysfunction pills illegal aliens, right professor?

rogerb on July 8, 2014 at 11:39 AM

I assume undocumented Chechnyans, Saudis, Yemenis, Pakis, Afghanis, Iranians, Syrians, may also claim refugee status? Young healthy males that make bomb sniffing dogs alert?

Wait till the car bombs start over here.

butch on July 8, 2014 at 11:39 AM

Can you not read? The billion of dollars is to secure the border. That’s what you want, no?

terryannonline on July 8, 2014 at 11:31 AM

Can you not read?

Instead of pursuing summary deportation, he’s going to ask Congress for $3.8 billion in extra resources, nearly double his initial amount, to “process” all the new cases. Even though, as we all understand, many of them will end up going unprocessed, by design.

HumpBot Salvation on July 8, 2014 at 11:40 AM

OH,…and 615 Million for Fire-Fighting:

The Associated Press @AP · 11s

President Obama asks Congress for $3.8 billion to deal with children crossing southern border illegally: http://apne.ws/1oEsAD7
===========

Obama seeks $3.7 billion to deal with border kids
By ERICA WERNER and JIM KUHNHENN
— Jul. 8, 2014 11:31 AM EDT
***************************

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Associated Press has learned that President Barack Obama is asking Congress for $3.8 billion to confront the influx of minors from Central America. The figure also includes extra money for fighting wildfires in the West.

The White House says the money would help increase the detention, care and transportation of unaccompanied children. It says the money would increase the capacity of immigration courts, increase prosecution of smuggling networks and help Central American countries repatriate border crossers sent back from the United States.

The request for money did not include proposals for legislative changes that the White House wants. White House officials said Tuesday they still intend to work with Congress to increase the administration’s authority to deport minor border crossers.

About $625 million of the emergency spending request would go to fight wildfires in Western states.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/border-money-request-will-precede-legal-proposals

canopfor on July 8, 2014 at 11:40 AM

Dear Leader: We don’t need no stinkin’ borders…..

d1carter on July 8, 2014 at 11:40 AM

De-fund the UN.

Oil Can on July 8, 2014 at 11:41 AM

rogerb on July 8, 2014 at 11:38 AM

The children aren’t from Mexico. Their families aren’t in Mexico…so it is incredibly dumb to say “send them back to Mexico” when 1) how can they go “back” when they never freaking lived there 2) that’s not where they from.

terryannonline on July 8, 2014 at 11:41 AM

Can you not read? The billion of dollars is to secure the border. That’s what you want, no?

terryannonline on July 8, 2014 at 11:31 AM

Barack Obama has clearly demonstrated past the last 5 1/2 years that he has absolutely zero interest in securing the border. We’ve been told by him as recent as six months ago that the border is ‘secured’.

Furthermore, the bulk of the funds requested are not to secure the border, but to fund ‘accelerated court hearings’ and cover the costs of transporting / processing the illegal immigrants who are crossing the border and pretty much immediately surrendering to border agents.

All of this is also a crock – as the vast majority of the illegal immigrants who are ‘processed’ and assigned a court hearing decline to appear for that court hearing and simply disappear.

The UN deserves the same actions as those nations who are actively encouraging their potential problems (the poor, the unwell, the uneducated) to illegally enter the US – a complete and total cut-off of all US government funding for every single program. Only friends of the US deserve taxpayer funds and programs.

If the UN doesn’t like it, it can relocate it’s HQ somewhere else, perhaps the Congo.

Athos on July 8, 2014 at 11:42 AM

so it’s time for a new pivot:
==================================

Democrat DizzyNess Distraction Operation Sumpins!!!!

canopfor on July 8, 2014 at 11:43 AM

I agree.

The UN should set up camps in El Salvador, Nicaragua, Honduras, Guatemala and Mexico.

HumpBot Salvation on July 8, 2014 at 11:43 AM

Obama can’t take any action. First, he doesn’t need to. What is happening already benefits him and will continue. Second, Hillary or Kerry will need the amnesty arrow in their quiver when the run for POTUS along with forgiving student loan debt.

HopeHeFails on July 8, 2014 at 11:44 AM

Were they not refugees when they came into Mexico…?

d1carter on July 8, 2014 at 11:44 AM

Send them all back to Mexico, and let *them* sort it out. And drop-kick Obama over there with them.

Midas on July 8, 2014 at 11:28 AM

And send the amnesty shills with them.

Flange on July 8, 2014 at 11:44 AM

Thank you AP for calling them what they are. Illegals. And illegal immigration.

cat_owner on July 8, 2014 at 11:45 AM

HumpBot Salvation on July 8, 2014 at 11:40 AM

Mr. Obama will send a letter on Monday to alert Congress that he will seek an emergency appropriation for rapidly expanding border enforcement actions and humanitarian assistance programs to cope with the influx, which includes record numbers of unaccompanied minors and adults bringing children.
……

The president will also ask Congress to revise existing statutes to give the Homeland Security secretary, Jeh Johnson, new authorities to accelerate the screening and deportation of young unaccompanied migrants who are not from Mexico.

Geez, border security and deportation….isn’t that what you all want?

terryannonline on July 8, 2014 at 11:45 AM

I agree.

The UN should set up camps in El Salvador, Nicaragua, Honduras, Guatemala and Mexico.

HumpBot Salvation on July 8, 2014 at 11:43 AM

HumpBot Salvation: And send the Palestinian’s there too:0

canopfor on July 8, 2014 at 11:45 AM

So you all talk about border security but then don’t want to pay for it huh?

terryannonline on July 8, 2014 at 11:47 AM

Geez, border security and deportation….isn’t that what you all want?

terryannonline on July 8, 2014 at 11:45 AM

Yessir, and like everything Dog Eater promises the proof is in the pudding.

You know, like creating millions of jobs.

Bishop on July 8, 2014 at 11:47 AM

Why don’t you take them in, say in Brussels, Vienna and everywhere else you’re located, incl. in the NY building, until the lice eat all of you, alive?

300 million want to come to the US, just today.

UN, you deal with the poor of the world. YOU love them in that squaller, you illiberal savages.

Schadenfreude on July 8, 2014 at 11:47 AM

Does anyone at this point trust Dear Leader…?

d1carter on July 8, 2014 at 11:48 AM

I watched Mary Katherine on O’Reilly last night. She doesn’t understand who Obama is and what his objectives are. He hates this country and what it once stood for. She sees him as someone trying to do the right thing but is incapable.

alanstern on July 8, 2014 at 11:48 AM

The Border Patrol should get together with local law enforcement and REFUSE to let anyone across and start throwing the ones here back. Dare the federal government to stop them. Each state should then absorb the border patrol officers into their own state border patrol.

Defy the federal government.

darwin on July 8, 2014 at 11:48 AM

Midas to UN:

Why not go f*ck yourselves?

Midas on July 8, 2014 at 11:25 AM

Schad to Midas “there you go”. I’ll pour lemon juice on the UN, right after.

Schadenfreude on July 8, 2014 at 11:49 AM

When other countries take refugees in they don’t bestow citizenship on them and make their social welfare systems, education, and rent subsidies available. Ask the Palestinians and their offspring that have lived in refugee camps in Jordan since 1948. This administration and Democrats want to give these “refugees” citizenship and the vote.

iamsaved on July 8, 2014 at 11:49 AM

Sounds like extortion….$4 billion and the problem I created goes away. No money, more to come.

d1carter on July 8, 2014 at 11:49 AM

She sees him as someone trying to do the right thing but is incapable.

alanstern on July 8, 2014 at 11:48 AM

Seriously?

You’re right. Obama hates anything to do with America, especially wealthy Americans.

darwin on July 8, 2014 at 11:50 AM

Does anyone at this point trust Dear Leader…?

d1carter on July 8, 2014 at 11:48 AM

Terryann does, because Dog Eater promised to make things better or something.

Uno Mas!

Bishop on July 8, 2014 at 11:50 AM

Can you not read? The billion of dollars is to secure the border. That’s what you want, no?

terryannonline on July 8, 2014 at 11:31 AM

You’re about as obtuse as liblikeaslave and verbie. Wake up already. Not a dime will go to the border.

Schadenfreude on July 8, 2014 at 11:50 AM

Did they cross through Canada?

rogerb on July 8, 2014 at 11:38 AM

rogerb:

Oh gawd, too funny,..wait,(Picks up binoculars scans St.Marys
river for amphibous Illegal alien assault into Ontario)!-:0

canopfor on July 8, 2014 at 11:50 AM

Note to HA readers – terryannonline is with the Mexican flag demonstrators.

Schadenfreude on July 8, 2014 at 11:51 AM

Cripe3.8 billion

I call bull on that amount

cmsinaz on July 8, 2014 at 11:51 AM

Why do we even host the UN at this point? Their sole purpose is to de-value the US and create a world, via their voice at the UN, where they redistribute the wealth we created.

Tater Salad on July 8, 2014 at 11:52 AM

Wouldn’t it be cheaper to send the (Fence-Jumpers)back to
where they came, via, one-way bus ticket!!

canopfor on July 8, 2014 at 11:52 AM

terryannonline on July 8, 2014 at 11:45 AM

Have you been awake at all the past 5 years? Can you not figure out how the obama administration works by this point?

The majority $3.8B will go to the bureaucrats who will delay the deportation process as long as possible. Meanwhile, those due in court will be nowhere to be found and no efforts will be made to find them.

And meanwhile, lip service will be paid to actual border security and enforcement.

Oh here’s a quote from obama’s ex-ICE Director

“If you are a run-of-the-mill immigrant here illegally, your odds of getting deported are close to zero — it’s just highly unlikely to happen,” John Sandweg, until recently the acting director of Immigration and Customs Enforcement, said in an interview.

So trusting obama to actually deport anyone…good luck.

HumpBot Salvation on July 8, 2014 at 11:52 AM

WH to seek $3.7B from Congress to respond to border crisis. Significantly more than first thought.

canopfor on July 8, 2014 at 11:37 AM

Only $1.7B more than previously announced!

I say Congress should say NOT ONE DIME until DHS has secured the borders. If that means the government has to borrow from the vacation budget for Obama, the Yeti, or their filthy brats-so be it. If that means cutting back on weeks of unemployment for one group of parasites to pay for housing another group of parasites- so be it. Government has plenty of money but, like American families have to do, the budget has to be reconfigured to match the income.

Happy Nomad on July 8, 2014 at 11:52 AM

Here’s an idea: how about the nations these people are fleeing clean up their government. How about these refugees stay and fight for the freedoms we have won in this country long ago? How about they make a righteous stand in the face of tyranny and corruption, establish a civil society, the rule of law?

Otherwise, they have no appreciation for what they have fled to and will destroy it much the same.

How about they do that. Instead of bringing with them the cowardice, indifferent attitudes, laziness, penchant for socialism, political manipulation and all the terrible qualities which led to their home countries deterioration in the first place?

We’ve done nothing to teach these people why America is exceptional. Why people excel in this magnificent nation. Why we stand as a beacon of hope and prosperity. All because the ruling class feels the culture which under-girds our nation, which establishes our prosperity and greatness is an uncomfortable fact.

This is a deliberate attempt by Democrats to undermine our nation, create a class of political useful idiots and make people dependent on handouts- for as long as they last.

Gone is the rule of law and order: shed for the political expediency and craven desires of liberals. And we are lesser as a nation for it.

Marcus Traianus on July 8, 2014 at 11:53 AM

Can we send libfree back with the “refugees”?

Tater Salad on July 8, 2014 at 11:53 AM

You’re about as obtuse as liblikeaslave and verbie. Wake up already. Not a dime will go to the border.

Schadenfreude on July 8, 2014 at 11:50 AM

Ugh. There is no winning with you guys. Obama is even wrong when he wants to do what YOU say you want. You all are a bunch of whiners.

terryannonline on July 8, 2014 at 11:53 AM

Note to HA readers – terryannonline is with the Mexican flag demonstrators.

Schadenfreude on July 8, 2014 at 11:51 AM

Schadenfreude: Ya got a link,……(Snark):)

canopfor on July 8, 2014 at 11:53 AM

The children aren’t from Mexico. Their families aren’t in Mexico…so it is incredibly dumb to say “send them back to Mexico” when 1) how can they go “back” when they never freaking lived there 2) that’s not where they from.

terryannonline on July 8, 2014 at 11:41 AM

Who cares where they’re from — they entered the US via Mexico. Therefore, send them back to Mexico, and if they’re not Mexican, that sounds like Mexico’s problem, no?

nullrouted on July 8, 2014 at 11:54 AM

The children aren’t from Mexico. Their families aren’t in Mexico…so it is incredibly dumb to say “send them back to Mexico” when 1) how can they go “back” when they never freaking lived there 2) that’s not where they from.

terryannonline on July 8, 2014 at 11:41 AM

They not from here, either.

The point is that the country of Mexico has allowed these children to cross through their country. Their southern border is secure.

ladyingray on July 8, 2014 at 11:54 AM

A commenter suggested two brilliant ideas yesterday. Sorry, but I don’t care to go searching in which thread:

One, take them all to the consulates of their lands and make their countries pay for their returns to origin.

Two, obama cries “GWB’s law, I can’t deport them, unless from Mexico”. The same commenter suggested brilliantly “use your pen and forbid that they send remittances from their black-market labor to their lands”…in similar words.

Hammer your fools in DC with these ideas. Wake them all up or perish.

This is zero hour, on the domestic front. IS (the former ISIS) is the foreign one.

This will be beyond Katrina, mark it.

Schadenfreude on July 8, 2014 at 11:54 AM

Can you not read? The billion of dollars is to secure the border. That’s what you want, no?

terryannonline on July 8, 2014 at 11:31 AM

As usual, you’re the one who not only can’t read, but is incredibly naive (or stupid):

The White House says the money would help increase the detention, care and transportation of unaccompanied children.

The children aren’t from Mexico. Their families aren’t in Mexico…so it is incredibly dumb to say “send them back to Mexico” when 1) how can they go “back” when they never freaking lived there 2) that’s not where they from.

terryannonline on July 8, 2014 at 11:41 AM

No, the majority of them are not from Mexico, but they are only able to reach the U.S. from their home countries because they are being allowed to travel into and across the interior of Mexico. The Mexican government is clearly complicit in this illegal alien invasion, for all the obvious reasons. We should absolutely be taking strong action against Mexico, for its role in this debacle.

AZCoyote on July 8, 2014 at 11:54 AM

The children aren’t from Mexico. Their families aren’t in Mexico…so it is incredibly dumb to say “send them back to Mexico” when 1) how can they go “back” when they never freaking lived there 2) that’s not where they from.

terryannonline on July 8, 2014 at 11:41 AM

Since you seem incapable of grasping this concept, I’ll say it slowly:

How did they get into the United States?

Is there a border with some other country? Did they hop in the Gulf of Mexico and swim from Guatemala?

Put simply, they came THROUGH Mexico, with Mexican complicity. If Mexico wants to help them leave their country, MEXICO can deal with them.

makattak on July 8, 2014 at 11:55 AM

Terry, are you fishing or are you really this stupid?

VegasRick

She really is that stupid. And she’s racist. The only reason she supports illegal aliens is because most of them are Latino like she is.

xblade on July 8, 2014 at 11:55 AM

Wouldn’t it be cheaper to send the (Fence-Jumpers)back to
where they came, via, one-way bus ticket!!

canopfor on July 8, 2014 at 11:52 AM

Why yes, yes it would. But that would make us racist or something.

HumpBot Salvation on July 8, 2014 at 11:55 AM

Ugh. There is no winning with you guys. Obama is even wrong when he wants to do what YOU say you want. You all are a bunch of whiners.

terryannonline on July 8, 2014 at 11:53 AM

We simply do not believe Obama anymore, the fact that you do after all the confirmed lies we’ve all been told makes you a moron.

nullrouted on July 8, 2014 at 11:55 AM

Here’s an idea: how about the nations these people are fleeing clean up their government. How about these refugees stay and fight for the freedoms we have won in this country long ago?

Says someone who lives comfortably in America. Easier said then done.

terryannonline on July 8, 2014 at 11:55 AM

terryannonline on July 8, 2014 at 11:32 AM

F*ck you, a$$hat – I didn’t say they were from Mexico. They came *through* Mexico, Mexico *let* them come through – send them *back* to Mexico and as I said, let Mexico sort them out, you f*ckwit.

And yes, I can f*cking read – YOU can’t. The money isn’t being requested to secure the border, it’s being requested to handle the expenses of dealing with the illegals – housing, food, healthcare, transportation, etc.

Go f*ck yourself, moron.

Midas on July 8, 2014 at 11:55 AM

The children aren’t from Mexico. Their families aren’t in Mexico…so it is incredibly dumb to say “send them back to Mexico” when 1) how can they go “back” when they never freaking lived there 2) that’s not where they from.

terryannonline on July 8, 2014 at 11:41 AM

They can go home the same way they came here. Mexico assisted them to the border, they can assist them back.

Maybe we should ask Spain to come over and conquer Mexico again.

darwin on July 8, 2014 at 11:55 AM

At which border did they become refugees…?

d1carter on July 8, 2014 at 11:55 AM

The children aren’t from Mexico. Their families aren’t in Mexico…so it is incredibly dumb to say “send them back to Mexico” when 1) how can they go “back” when they never freaking lived there 2) that’s not where they from.

terryannonline on July 8, 2014 at 11:41 AM

Mexico has extremely strict immigration laws. All others are locked up or sent back home. That Mexico not only allows, but enables these illegal migrations makes Mexico beyond culpable, and they should be made to pay a huge price.

Wake up already, traitor.

Schadenfreude on July 8, 2014 at 11:56 AM

(Ah, and the software edits out all of my snark about slowly… In any case, please read the derision that is intended in the statement.)

makattak on July 8, 2014 at 11:56 AM

If they’re refugees, why didn’t they take refuge in Mexico? Or Belize? Both are thousands of miles closer than the US.

LASue

Bingo.

Can you not read? The billion of dollars is to secure the border. That’s what you want, no?

terryannonline

No it isn’t.

Oh and you racist piece of crap…..the kids aren’t from Mexico.

terryannonline

Which part is racist, amnesty shill? And yes, there are Mexican kids mixed in. Even you can’t be that stupid.

xblade on July 8, 2014 at 11:56 AM

Send them all back to Mexico, and let *them* sort it out. And drop-kick Obama over there with them.
 
Midas on July 8, 2014 at 11:28 AM

 
Oh and you racist piece of crap…..the kids aren’t from Mexico.
 
terryannonline on July 8, 2014 at 11:32 AM

 
Did they cross through Canada?
 
rogerb on July 8, 2014 at 11:38 AM

 
The children aren’t from Mexico. Their families aren’t in Mexico…so it is incredibly dumb to say “send them back to Mexico” when 1) how can they go “back” when they never freaking lived there 2) that’s not where they from.
 
terryannonline on July 8, 2014 at 11:41 AM

 
And did their never-freaking-lived-there families make them go to Canada or Mexico to enter the U.S.?
 
Where did they come from, terryannonline?

rogerb on July 8, 2014 at 11:56 AM

Ugh. There is no winning with you guys. Obama is even wrong when he wants to do what YOU say you want. You all are a bunch of whiners.

terryannonline on July 8, 2014 at 11:53 AM

No, there is no wining with you! As WE all know, he isn’t going to do what we say we want. We are realistic, you are not.

ladyingray on July 8, 2014 at 11:56 AM

So you all talk about border security but then don’t want to pay for it huh?

terryannonline on July 8, 2014 at 11:47 AM

We already spent $1,200,000,000 on a fence in 2006. Use that money since they obviously didn’t build a fence.

joekenha on July 8, 2014 at 11:56 AM

What nullrouted said.

And Terry Ann…obama depends on fools like you.

HumpBot Salvation on July 8, 2014 at 11:57 AM

The only reason she supports illegal aliens is because most of them are Latino like she is.

xblade on July 8, 2014 at 11:55 AM

Latino is a male. Latina is female. I’m a female.

terryannonline on July 8, 2014 at 11:57 AM

She really is that stupid. And she’s racist. The only reason she supports illegal aliens is because most of them are Latino like she is.

xblade on July 8, 2014 at 11:55 AM

In other words she’s a European Spanish descendent. Not a descendent of the indigenous peoples that were conquered by Spain and Portugal. Those are the ones streaming over the border. The European descendants are staying home loving every minute of this.

darwin on July 8, 2014 at 11:58 AM

Canada’s calling. They’re looking for 300,000 refugees.

JoeHanson on July 8, 2014 at 11:58 AM

Says someone who lives comfortably in America. Easier said then done.

terryannonline on July 8, 2014 at 11:55 AM

Fluke off. Get off your duff and go help them, over there, bleeder and traitor. I’m sick and tired of your leeching likes. YOU are the scum of this land, sucking her dry. You’re beyond mooching, pretending to be a R.

Schadenfreude on July 8, 2014 at 11:58 AM

Ugh. There is no winning with you guys. Obama is even wrong when he wants to do what YOU say you want. You all are a bunch of whiners.

terryannonline on July 8, 2014 at 11:53 AM

Agreed. I can’t believe anyone here wouldn’t take one look at Dog Eater’s myriad accomplishments and kept-promises and immediately understand how serious he is about securing the border.

Only a whiny baby would think otherwise.

Bishop on July 8, 2014 at 11:58 AM

Oh, please – please come call me a racist to my face, in person, you f*ck.

Midas on July 8, 2014 at 11:58 AM

Ugh. There is no winning with you guys. Obama is even wrong when he wants to do what YOU say you want. You all are a bunch of whiners.

terryannonline on July 8, 2014 at 11:53 AM

Obama wants the money to “deal” with the illegals, not stop or return them. In other words give them Obamacare, welfare, food stamps, and any other government assistance he can dole out.

If that is the case he needs to take them all back with him to Washington, New York, and San Francisco; find them homes in Georgetown, the Upper East side, and Knob Hill.

Tater Salad on July 8, 2014 at 11:58 AM

Dear Leader: Shame about that border problem America has…ahem… $4 billion and it goes away.

d1carter on July 8, 2014 at 11:58 AM

The children aren’t from Mexico. Their families aren’t in Mexico…so it is incredibly dumb to say “send them back to Mexico” when 1) how can they go “back” when they never freaking lived there 2) that’s not where they from.
 
terryannonline on July 8, 2014 at 11:41 AM

 
BTW, you want to send them back to those parents, correct?

rogerb on July 8, 2014 at 11:58 AM

Says someone who lives comfortably in America. Easier said then done.

terryannonline on July 8, 2014 at 11:55 AM

You fool, no land is more beautiful and “comfortable” than Switzerland, for ex. NO other land has open borders like the USA.

NO other land will self-destruct faster either. Dummy!!!

Schadenfreude on July 8, 2014 at 11:59 AM

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