RNC picks Cleveland for 2016 Republican convention

posted at 12:41 pm on July 8, 2014 by Ed Morrissey

Earlier today I predicted that the RNC would choose Cleveland as its 2016 convention site, mainly for reasons of electoral politics. Republicans have to carry Ohio to have any real chance of winning the presidency next time around, and the flood of delegates — and cash — would at least theoretically boost their chances of swinging the state back into the red column. Others on Twitter thought that Jerry Jones would carry the day for Dallas, but it’s Big D who got left out in the cold:

The Republican National Committee announced Tuesday that Cleveland will host the 2016 Republican National Convention.

The decision was made by the RNC’s Site Selection Committee. The full membership of the RNC is expected to ratify the Site Selection Committee’s recommendation at its August meeting. …

Cleveland gives the Republicans a chance to hold their nominating convention in Ohio, a crucial battleground state. No Republican in modern times has won the White House without carrying the Buckeye State.

The RNC issued a statement on the award:

Site Selection Chairwoman Enid Mickelsen:

“It’s my honor to announce Cleveland as the Site Selection Committee’s recommendation to host the 2016 Republican National Convention,” said Mickelsen.  “Cleveland is a phenomenal city, and I can’t think of a better place to showcase our party and our nominee in 2016. This committee was tasked with difficult decisions and was presented with several strong options to host our convention. I’m confident Cleveland is the right pick for our next national convention. Cleveland has demonstrated they have the commitment, energy, and terrific facilities to help us deliver a history-making Republican convention.
 
“I extend my deepest gratitude to Dallas.  Dallas is a world class city with wonderful venues and fantastic people and I’m certain they’ll make a great host for our party in the future.  The Dallas team were excellent ambassadors for their city and showed both the committee and the RNC all the wonderful things the city has to offer.”
 
RNC Chairman Reince Priebus:
 
“A Cleveland convention offers our party a great steppingstone to the White House in 2016, and I’m encouraged by the committee’s recommendation.  The team from Cleveland has gone above and beyond the call of duty and I think they’re representative of a city eager to show the country all the fantastic things they have to offer. 
 
“The RNC set a new standard for conventions during this process. Not only will the convention be held earlier in 2016, but there are also substantial guarantees in place for funding that put us well ahead of previous conventions and will give our nominee the best opportunity to succeed.”
 
“I also want to thank Dallas. The hospitality shown by their city, their team and the Republican community in Dallas has been tremendous.” 

The last time Cleveland hosted an RNC convention was 1936, which wasn’t exactly a banner year for Republicans — but that wasn’t the fault of Cleveland, either. Whether or not this choice makes it easier for Republicans to win a purple state will be debated endlessly between now and the convention, or even to the election itself. The GOP held their 2008 convention in the Twin Cities but still got blown out two months later in the election. The 2012 convention was held in Tampa, but Barack Obama still won Florida, albeit in a very close call.

The candidates make more of a difference than the venue, and ground organization in the election more than in the convention. Still, this looks like a better choice in terms of what it says about assertiveness. Dallas would have been an easy choice, in deep-red Texas, perhaps giving an impression of either insularity or complacency. Choosing Cleveland shows that Republicans are serious about the Rust Belt and want to highlight that effort.

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Kidding right?

anotherJoe on July 8, 2014 at 12:46 PM

Noah Rothman ‏@NoahCRothman 41m

Reminder: convention locations have no bearing on election outcomes.

Bmore on July 8, 2014 at 12:46 PM

If they wanted Oiho, they should’ve picked Columbus. Centrally located in the state and a better convention city.

Bitter Clinger on July 8, 2014 at 12:46 PM

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canopfor on July 8, 2014 at 12:47 PM

They’ll be sure to get a warm welcome by the admiring locals. Why not go full-crazy and hold it in San Fran?

BoehnerTears on July 8, 2014 at 12:48 PM

Artist’s rendition of the 2016 GOP Convention:

http://youtu.be/EsSeULiElrc

(repeated from the headlines thread)

Buck Farky on July 8, 2014 at 12:48 PM

Somebody was bribed to make such a stupid choice. Even the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame has it’s induction ceremony elsewhere.

meci on July 8, 2014 at 12:49 PM

Cleveland? “Burn on Big River, Burn on!” to quote the old song from my youth. Actually the Cuyahoga River has been cleaned up and will make for a picturesque backdrop for all the plots and goings on at the GOP convention.

CiLH1 on July 8, 2014 at 12:49 PM

man I can’t believe they passed on the chance to enjoy Dallas in August

DanMan on July 8, 2014 at 12:49 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtW8RkI3-c4&feature=kp

Randy Newman “Burn On”

(If you saw “Major League” you remember this one)

ConstantineXI on July 8, 2014 at 12:50 PM

Which MSNBC host will be the first to drop a Cleveland Steamer reference?

Occams Stubble on July 8, 2014 at 12:50 PM

Does this mean Dennis Kucinich is about to turn Republican?

Bitter Clinger on July 8, 2014 at 12:50 PM

Thus could set up an interesting (historical?) scenario where both conventions are held in the same state. The DNC has been floating Columbus ad nauseum in its question polls on lefty sites.

BoehnerTears on July 8, 2014 at 12:50 PM

Should’ve picked PITTSBURGH.

ToddPA on July 8, 2014 at 12:50 PM

Yay, I’m glad it’s not coming to Dallas! I don’t have to listen to all the liberals here whining about it.

Ward Cleaver on July 8, 2014 at 12:51 PM

The best ever tourism video about Cleveland:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysmLA5TqbIY

ConstantineXI on July 8, 2014 at 12:51 PM

Get ready for lefty attack on baseball team’s name and guilt by association for the GOP.

Wethal on July 8, 2014 at 12:51 PM

Cleveland “At least we’re not Detroit”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZzgAjjuqZM

ConstantineXI on July 8, 2014 at 12:51 PM

I’m being completely serious when I say they should’ve picked Detroit and explained why they were there.

rogerb on July 8, 2014 at 12:52 PM

Cleveland: home of “if it’s Brown, flush it down”.

Bitter Clinger on July 8, 2014 at 12:53 PM

The candidates make more of a difference than the venue, and ground organization in the election more than in the convention. Still, this looks like a better choice in terms of what it says about assertiveness. Dallas would have been an easy choice, in deep-red Texas, perhaps giving an impression of either insularity or complacency. Choosing Cleveland shows that Republicans are serious about the Rust Belt and want to highlight that effort.

But the city of Dallas and Dallas County are blue. City council elections in Dallas and other Dallas County cities are non-partisan, but the libs have taken over Dallas. As for Dallas County, the Dems run it now.

Ward Cleaver on July 8, 2014 at 12:53 PM

man I can’t believe they passed on the chance to enjoy Dallas in August

DanMan on July 8, 2014 at 12:49 PM

We had it in 1984, including the infamous flag burning incident.

Ward Cleaver on July 8, 2014 at 12:56 PM

Ward Cleaver on July 8, 2014 at 12:53 PM

Whenever you see “non-partisan” or “jungle” systems, it’s invariably all-democrat. Let’s them push out anyone Republican or Conservative.

Buck Farky on July 8, 2014 at 12:57 PM

Good choice, and good for John Kasich. Will be interesting if the convention hall is unionized though.

rockmom on July 8, 2014 at 12:58 PM

Really not in it to win it.

HornetSting on July 8, 2014 at 12:59 PM

This is one in a continuing series of reminders that posting personal information about commenters or writers here at Hot Air without their permission is a violation of our terms of service and will result in immediate termination of commenting privileges. We don’t give warnings when that happens. Adjust your attention accordingly, and … stick to the topics rather than personal attacks.

Ed Morrissey on July 8, 2014 at 12:59 PM

Aaaaaaand … I posted that on the wrong thread. [facepalm]

Ed Morrissey on July 8, 2014 at 1:00 PM

No Republican in modern times has won the White House without carrying the Buckeye State.

While this statement is correct so far as it goes, it would be better to say that no Republican has ever won the White House without carrying the Buckeye State

levi from queens on July 8, 2014 at 1:01 PM

An uninspired choice, to be sure.

Pork-Chop on July 8, 2014 at 1:02 PM

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canopfor on July 8, 2014 at 12:47 PM

That’s O-I-H-O, Racist.

ConstantineXI on July 8, 2014 at 1:02 PM

RNC picks Cleveland for 2016 Republican convention

Leave it to the GOP to pick the party town. ;0

Is the opening session going to include the ceremonial lighting of the Cuyahoga River?

Happy Nomad on July 8, 2014 at 1:02 PM

Good choice, and good for John Kasich. Will be interesting if the convention hall is unionized though.

rockmom on July 8, 2014 at 12:58 PM

The one good thing is that Kasich won’t be the GOP nominee in 2016.

Bitter Clinger on July 8, 2014 at 1:03 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtW8RkI3-c4&feature=kp

Randy Newman “Burn On”

(If you saw “Major League” you remember this one)

ConstantineXI on July 8, 2014 at 12:50 PM

BRILLIANT!! Knew it before I played it……we need a bucket of chicken, JoBoo.

HornetSting on July 8, 2014 at 1:04 PM

It is the most logical choice, but as Ed points out, no guarantee Rs carry it in November. It all depends on the candidate.

cat_owner on July 8, 2014 at 1:05 PM

Leave it to the GOP to pick the party town. ;0

Is the opening session going to include the ceremonial lighting of the Cuyahoga River?

Happy Nomad on July 8, 2014 at 1:02 PM

Plus a tour of the teepee homes of the historical Cleveland Indians.

Bitter Clinger on July 8, 2014 at 1:05 PM

If they wanted Oiho, they should’ve picked Columbus. Centrally located in the state and a better convention city.

Bitter Clinger on July 8, 2014 at 12:46 PM

Um……Cleveland is home to the Obamaphone lady. That alone probably made the difference.

Happy Nomad on July 8, 2014 at 1:06 PM

Hugh Hewitt convinced me Cleveland is a good choice.

Now Ed needs to get him to calm down.

MichaelGabriel on July 8, 2014 at 1:06 PM

ToddPA on July 8, 2014 at 12:50 PM

Yinz know it!

lucyvanpelt on July 8, 2014 at 1:06 PM

41st Republican National Convention

Cleveland: Ohio
Dates: June 27 or July 18, 2016
RNC Convention Venue: Quicken Loans Arena

The RNC has announced that Cleveland, Ohio will host the 2016 Republican National Convention. The recommendation to select ‘Cleveland 2016′ was made following a final review by the Republicans’ site selection committee on July 8, 2014. A final vote by the full Republican National Committee is expected to take place at the RNC summer meeting slated for August 2014.

Ohio has been a battleground swing-state throughout United States campaigning history. The last candidate to win the presidential election without Ohio was Democrat John F. Kennedy in 1960. The last Republican presidential candidate to win the election without Ohio was Abraham Lincoln, 100 years earlier, in 1860.

The 2016 Republican National Convention venue will be the Quicken Loans Arena. This main convention center is located in downtown Cleveland, and referred to locally as “The Q”. The multipurpose arena seats 20,500, and includes 2,000 club seats and 88 luxury suites. It is home to three professional sports teams and hosts numerous entertainment events. Other supporting venues within walking distance of 2016 RNC main venue include the Cleveland Convention Center and the Renaissance Cleveland Hotel.

http://2016.republican-convention.org/
=======================================

Start Here. Finish Here.
Cleveland is the heart of the ultimate swing state

In the 2012 presidential election, no county in Ohio cast as many votes as Cuyahoga County, the county surrounding Cleveland. In that election, a voter swing of as little as 15% in Cuyahoga County would have turned Ohio red. The 2016 Republican Convention presents an opportunity to win the hearts and minds of Ohioans early.

Cleveland has the resources, experience and motivation to host an extremely successful and memorable convention. No other city will generate the press and strategic advantage of Cleveland. Cleveland 2016—Start here. Finish here.

http://www.clevelandrnc2016.com/

canopfor on July 8, 2014 at 1:06 PM

man I can’t believe they passed on the chance to enjoy Dallas in August

DanMan on July 8, 2014 at 12:49 PM

Indeed. Just like Green Bay in January.

Bitter Clinger on July 8, 2014 at 1:07 PM

Republicans have to carry Ohio nominate a conservative to have any real chance of winning the presidency next time around,

davidk on July 8, 2014 at 1:07 PM

Aaaaaaand … I posted that on the wrong thread. [facepalm]

Ed Morrissey on July 8, 2014 at 1:00 PM

Aaaaaaand…of course you are gonna make me go look for which thread it was intended for, right?

Bmore on July 8, 2014 at 1:07 PM

Um……Cleveland is home to the Obamaphone lady. That alone probably made the difference.

Happy Nomad on July 8, 2014 at 1:06 PM

Yeah, I can just see Cuyahoga County going for the GOP nominee in November ’16. This will make all the difference.

Bitter Clinger on July 8, 2014 at 1:08 PM

meh

cmsinaz on July 8, 2014 at 1:11 PM

Yeah, I can just see Cuyahoga County going for the GOP nominee in November ’16. This will make all the difference.

Bitter Clinger on July 8, 2014 at 1:08 PM

The Obamaphone lady sounded like a Harvard graduate. Well, just as literate at least.

ConstantineXI on July 8, 2014 at 1:12 PM

canopfor on July 8, 2014 at 12:47 PM

is the pretenders song, the theme of the convention too???

cmsinaz on July 8, 2014 at 1:12 PM

https://twitter.com

Ed Morrissey @EdMorrissey · now

RNC says: Cleveland rocks! http://fb.me/1sn5IXEvR

canopfor on July 8, 2014 at 1:12 PM

ConstantineXI on July 8, 2014 at 1:02 PM

winner!!

cmsinaz on July 8, 2014 at 1:12 PM

Um……Cleveland is home to the Obamaphone lady. That alone probably made the difference.

Happy Nomad on July 8, 2014 at 1:06 PM

It’s called the “it works” system. Remember Thad Cochran?

nobar on July 8, 2014 at 1:12 PM

Well, since the RNC is the pits, they might as well pick the armpit of the nation for their Kabuki Konfab.

vnvet on July 8, 2014 at 1:12 PM

Aaaaaaand … I posted that on the wrong thread. [facepalm]

Ed Morrissey on July 8, 2014 at 1:00 PM

Aaaaaaand…of course you are gonna make me go look for which thread it was intended for, right?

Bmore on July 8, 2014 at 1:07 PM

Top left, where military grade ignorance crapped all over the thread calling us racist and then plays victim. Act X.

HornetSting on July 8, 2014 at 1:13 PM

Republicans have to carry Ohio nominate a conservative to have any real chance of winning the presidency next time around,

davidk on July 8, 2014 at 1:07 PM

THIS.

As I said earlier on another thread, the GOP owes me 4 Reagan type nominees IN A ROW for making me keep my vomit down and vote for McCain ALONE.

ConstantineXI on July 8, 2014 at 1:13 PM

Nice of Reince to show his face. I guess he’s been very busy planning for Cleveland as the country spins out of control.

Marcus Traianus on July 8, 2014 at 1:14 PM

When it was held here in the Twin Cities we had our own little terrorist org which was broken-up before they could act, had their molotovs and pipe-bombs already to go.

Here’s to hoping that similarly peaceful and non-partisan leftists don’t decide to do something as kindhearted and generous in Ohio.

Bishop on July 8, 2014 at 1:14 PM

The best ever tourism video about Cleveland:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysmLA5TqbIY

ConstantineXI on July 8, 2014 at 12:51 PM

Best laugh of the day so far.

I have a feeling this thread is going to be fun.

coolrepublica on July 8, 2014 at 1:14 PM

Yay, I’m glad it’s not coming to Dallas! I don’t have to listen to all the liberals here whining about it.

Ward Cleaver on July 8, 2014 at 12:51 PM

Gig Em’

workingclass artist on July 8, 2014 at 1:14 PM

pretenders

cmsinaz on July 8, 2014 at 1:15 PM

https://twitter.com

Ed Morrissey @EdMorrissey · now

RNC says: Cleveland rocks! http://fb.me/1sn5IXEvR

canopfor on July 8, 2014 at 1:12 PM

So, is Drew Carey giving the keynote speech?

Bitter Clinger on July 8, 2014 at 1:15 PM

canopfor on July 8, 2014 at 12:47 PM

is the pretenders song, the theme of the convention too???

cmsinaz on July 8, 2014 at 1:12 PM

cmsinaz: You know,….I don’t know,…..but I do like the band:)

The Pretenders – My City Was Gone

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wplUBFVsbtw

canopfor on July 8, 2014 at 1:15 PM

canopfor on July 8, 2014 at 1:12 PM

So, is Drew Carey giving the keynote speech?

Bitter Clinger on July 8, 2014 at 1:15 PM

Bitter Clinger:Lol,..you guys are on zee roll:)

canopfor on July 8, 2014 at 1:16 PM

Hmmm… Four Dead in Ohio Benghazi

And, from the headline thread, Cleveland rocks (by The Presidents of the United States, no less).

Fallon on July 8, 2014 at 1:17 PM

#the mistake by the lake

Marcus Traianus on July 8, 2014 at 1:17 PM

pretenders

cmsinaz on July 8, 2014 at 1:15 PM

cmsinaz: Ya beat me,…..Kudo’s—:0

canopfor on July 8, 2014 at 1:17 PM

They should’ve had the convention in two cities and use technology to “link” them into one event.

They could have called it “A Tale of Two Cities” and held it in Dallas and Detroit — red boomtown and blue post-apocalyptic hellhole. Now that would be an illustration in contrasts.

anne_scott on July 8, 2014 at 1:19 PM

canopfor on July 8, 2014 at 1:15 PM

:)

cmsinaz on July 8, 2014 at 1:19 PM

When it was held here in the Twin Cities we had our own little terrorist org which was broken-up before they could act, had their molotovs and pipe-bombs already to go.

Here’s to hoping that similarly peaceful and non-partisan leftists don’t decide to do something as kindhearted and generous in Ohio.

Bishop on July 8, 2014 at 1:14 PM

Our National Guard handles those kinds of issues.

Bitter Clinger on July 8, 2014 at 1:19 PM

canopfor on July 8, 2014 at 1:17 PM

:)

cmsinaz on July 8, 2014 at 1:19 PM

Adjust your attention accordingly, and … stick to the topics rather than personal attacks.
 
Ed Morrissey on July 8, 2014 at 12:59 PM

 
Aaaaaaand … I posted that on the wrong thread. [facepalm]
 
Ed Morrissey on July 8, 2014 at 1:00 PM

 
Ha. It happens. It was this thread for anyone wondering:
 

Oh and you racist piece of crap…..the kids aren’t from Mexico.
 
terryannonline on July 8, 2014 at 11:32 AM

 
;)

rogerb on July 8, 2014 at 1:20 PM

It was a good idea for the RNC to choose an Ohio city, but could they have chosen Columbus or Cincinnati instead? With all the lefties in Cleveland, do the Republicans want to have all sorts of media reports of protesters outside the convention center chanting “racism” or “war on women” or other such nonsense while their nominee is chosen?

Steve Z on July 8, 2014 at 1:21 PM

As badly as the GOPe wants to push amnesty, I can’t believe they didn’t pick El Paso or Tuscon.

Bitter Clinger on July 8, 2014 at 1:22 PM

If they wanted Oiho, they should’ve picked Columbus. Centrally located in the state and a better convention city.

Bitter Clinger on July 8, 2014 at 12:46 PM

Personally, I think this is more a shot across the bow of Dennis Kucinich.

dominigan on July 8, 2014 at 1:22 PM

Aaaaaaand … I posted that on the wrong thread. [facepalm]

Ed Morrissey on July 8, 2014 at 1:00 PM

ED:

DON’T DO IT AGAIN:)

canopfor on July 8, 2014 at 1:24 PM

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Sen Portman on Cleveland getting GOP convention: It’s a unique opportunity to showcase the new Cleveland as one of America’s great cities

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RNC picks Cleveland for ’16 convention. Priebus: A Cleveland convention offers our party a great steppingstone to the White House in 2016.

canopfor on July 8, 2014 at 1:24 PM

Yeah, I can just see Cuyahoga County going for the GOP nominee in November ’16. This will make all the difference.

Bitter Clinger on July 8, 2014 at 1:08 PM

Given their record of voter registration I’m pretty sure that this move will peel off at least four Snow Whites, a couple Donald Ducks, and at least one Peter Pan.

Happy Nomad on July 8, 2014 at 1:24 PM

Personally, I think this is more a shot across the bow of Dennis Kucinich.

dominigan on July 8, 2014 at 1:22 PM

Pretty funny that he’s the best known Democrat from Ohio these days.

Bitter Clinger on July 8, 2014 at 1:25 PM

In the 2012 presidential election, no county in Ohio cast as many votes as Cuyahoga County, the county surrounding Cleveland.

Exit poll question: How many of those Cuyahoga County voters were alive in November 2012?

Steve Z on July 8, 2014 at 1:25 PM

Cleveland just got a brand-new state-of-the-art convention center, so that could have been one reason to pick it over C-Bus.

I’d talk about how fantastic our weather is in the summer, but I’m looking outside right now and I see a nice spat of torrential rainfall. :(

Good Solid B-Plus on July 8, 2014 at 1:26 PM

#the mistake by the lake

Marcus Traianus on July 8, 2014 at 1:17 PM

Let’s wait until after Jeb is handed the nomination for usting that one.

Happy Nomad on July 8, 2014 at 1:26 PM

Indeed. Just like Green Bay in January.

Bitter Clinger on July 8, 2014 at 1:07 PM

Dallas had the Super Bowl in 2011 when Jerry World was new. That whole week was a wash for all the outdoors festivities and I think it was down to 17 degrees the day before the game. I think the weather broke the day of the game and it got into the 30s or maybe 40s. My mom was raised in Dallas and she tells us of the State Fair during the Sesquicentennial celebration in 1936. She watched the thermometer hit 113 one day. That year recently made a notable comeback for NOAA records.

DanMan on July 8, 2014 at 1:26 PM

I’d talk about how fantastic our weather is in the summer, but I’m looking outside right now and I see a nice spat of torrential rainfall. :(

Good Solid B-Plus on July 8, 2014 at 1:26 PM

I’m hoping they use Cedar Point to demonstrate what happens to the economy under Democrats.

Happy Nomad on July 8, 2014 at 1:27 PM

Cleveland is a much better convention city than Dallas or Columbus. 15-20 minute train ride to downtown. Everything is within a 10 minute walk of the Convention Center – Playhouse Square, the Lake Front, Indians baseball, Tower City, the Arcade, and a ton of high class restaurants. It’s a 20 minute Health Line ride to University Circle and its world class museums.

Meanwhile, it takes an hour to drive from the airport to Dallas. Cleveland has the public transit, the highway infrastructure, the cuisine, the arts, the lake front. Anyone who wants to call it The Mistake by the Lake hasn’t been in a long time or has never been. It offers New York and Chicago level class without the massive congestion and ego.

macphisto96 on July 8, 2014 at 1:30 PM

They should’ve had the convention in two cities and use technology to “link” them into one event.

They could have called it “A Tale of Two Cities” and held it in Dallas and Detroit — red boomtown and blue post-apocalyptic hellhole. Now that would be an illustration in contrasts.

anne_scott on July 8, 2014 at 1:19 PM

That is a good idea. The tech-savvy millennials could get into if it was packaged right. But the elite can’t see that.

davidk on July 8, 2014 at 1:36 PM

I have to confess, I’ve never been to Cleveland. Been meaning to, if nothing else for the R&RHOF. I am a Browns fan, though I’ve never gone to a game (became one in 1999 with the expansion team, so you can’t call me bandwagon lol).

I figure it’s like any other large city, crime ridden, dirty, and dangerous…

ConstantineXI on July 8, 2014 at 1:36 PM

HornetSting on July 8, 2014 at 1:13 PM

Thanks. Yes as soon as I remembered seeing terryannonline on the illegal immigration thread I knew that had to be it. Sure enough it was. ; ) She has always had way too much personal info linked to her nom. Hopefully Ed will give her a talking to about it.

Bmore on July 8, 2014 at 1:38 PM

Meanwhile, it takes an hour to drive from the airport to Dallas. Cleveland has the public transit, the highway infrastructure, the cuisine, the arts, the lake front. Anyone who wants to call it The Mistake by the Lake hasn’t been in a long time or has never been. It offers New York and Chicago level class without the massive congestion and ego.

macphisto96 on July 8, 2014 at 1:30 PM

I’ve been through there a number of times recently and, yes, it is much improved from the burning river days. Still don’t see it as better than Columbus.

Bitter Clinger on July 8, 2014 at 1:41 PM

Should’ve picked PITTSBURGH.

ToddPA on July 8, 2014 at 12:50 PM

I actually said that a while back. The ‘Reagan Democrats’ are a low hanging fruit right now and they could really run the ‘War on Coal’ campaign pretty hard from here.

Unfortunately, I don’t think Pittsburgh has quite enough hotel space yet to host something that big.

reddevil on July 8, 2014 at 1:41 PM

Thanks. Yes as soon as I remembered seeing terryannonline on the illegal immigration thread I knew that had to be it. Sure enough it was. ; ) She has always had way too much personal info linked to her nom. Hopefully Ed will give her a talking to about it.

Bmore on July 8, 2014 at 1:38 PM

NEVER use your real name on the internets.

ConstantineXI on July 8, 2014 at 1:42 PM

I have to confess, I’ve never been to Cleveland. Been meaning to, if nothing else for the R&RHOF. I am a Browns fan, though I’ve never gone to a game (became one in 1999 with the expansion team, so you can’t call me bandwagon lol).

I figure it’s like any other large city, crime ridden, dirty, and dangerous…

ConstantineXI on July 8, 2014 at 1:36 PM

“Bandwagon fan” is not a term one would relate to the Browns, lol.

Bitter Clinger on July 8, 2014 at 1:42 PM

I have to confess, I’ve never been to Cleveland. Been meaning to, if nothing else for the R&RHOF. I am a Browns fan, though I’ve never gone to a game (became one in 1999 with the expansion team, so you can’t call me bandwagon lol).

I figure it’s like any other large city, crime ridden, dirty, and dangerous…

ConstantineXI on July 8, 2014 at 1:36 PM

You voluntarily root for this garbage team? Run away, man! Eh, if you’ve stuck by us this long, may as well wait to see how Johnny Football pans out.

As for C-Town, parts are dirty and parts are dangerous. If you’ve got a local to be your Sherpa, you should be fine.

Good Solid B-Plus on July 8, 2014 at 1:42 PM

We didn’t want those damned RINOS here in Texas, anyway…I don’t vote “R” anymore.

bimmcorp on July 8, 2014 at 1:45 PM

“Bandwagon fan” is not a term one would relate to the Browns, lol.

Bitter Clinger on July 8, 2014 at 1:42 PM

Not since the 50′s, at least.

Good Solid B-Plus on July 8, 2014 at 1:47 PM

NEVER use your real name on the internets.

ConstantineXI on July 8, 2014 at 1:42 PM

Dang! You mean you aren’t really ConstantineXI ?!?! ; )

Bmore on July 8, 2014 at 1:50 PM

*********************** O-H-I-0 **************************

canopfor on July 8, 2014 at 12:47 PM

…D-U-M-B…

JugEarsButtHurt on July 8, 2014 at 1:51 PM

You voluntarily root for this garbage team? Run away, man! Eh, if you’ve stuck by us this long, may as well wait to see how Johnny Football pans out.

As for C-Town, parts are dirty and parts are dangerous. If you’ve got a local to be your Sherpa, you should be fine.

Good Solid B-Plus on July 8, 2014 at 1:42 PM

I’m in Ashland, KY, so the two closest NFL teams to me are Cincinnati and Cleveland. Lots of old timers around here are still Browns fans (including my dad). My decision to pick the Browns had a lot to do with them drafting Tim Couch of the University of Kentucky (and Kentucky native).

Yeah, I am a fan of Kentucky football as well as basketball. I guess I am used to watching bad football with an occasional bright spot of hope, as my ‘Cats get stomped in the SEC (we get them back come basketball season), so the Browns are quite… familiar.

I’ve also put up with many a bad season with the Reds too, though the highlight of my high school baseball playing days was the 1990 World Series. I am not a Bengals fan mainly because I cannot STAND the terrible Jerry Jones wannabe owner, and the revolving door of thugs. Of course, Browns ownership isn’t exactly outstanding either…

ConstantineXI on July 8, 2014 at 1:52 PM

Dang! You mean you aren’t really ConstantineXI ?!?! ; )

Bmore on July 8, 2014 at 1:50 PM

No, I am not really the final Emperor of the Roman Empire and martyr to the Orthodox faith :)

But he is a figure in history that I greatly admire, and I think the nick is an excellent reminder of what we face in the world today.

ConstantineXI on July 8, 2014 at 1:53 PM

Best laugh of the day so far.

I have a feeling this thread is going to be fun.

coolrepublica on July 8, 2014 at 1:14 PM

….nope!…you’re here!

JugEarsButtHurt on July 8, 2014 at 1:53 PM

NEVER use your real name on the internets.

ConstantineXI on July 8, 2014 at 1:42 PM

Dang! You mean you aren’t really ConstantineXI ?!?! ; )

Bmore on July 8, 2014 at 1:50 PM

I’m in trouble because I really am a bitter clinger.

Bitter Clinger on July 8, 2014 at 1:53 PM

Because having the convention in St Paul in ’08 delivered the state to whom again?

portlandon on July 8, 2014 at 1:55 PM

Should’ve picked PITTSBURGH.

ToddPA on July 8, 2014 at 12:50 PM

Agreed. In the warnings about turning Texas blue, they said “What if there was one state we could turn that would ensure no Democrat ever won the presidency again?”

Well, that state is Pennsylvania. With the exception of Philadelphia, it’s a pretty red state. Flip Philly and it’s Republican presidents as far as the eye can see. Now, why doesn’t the GOP have a “Battleground Pennsylvania” effort going?

Occams Stubble on July 8, 2014 at 1:55 PM

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