MSNBC hosts think Rick Perry’s decision to snub Obama is… justified?

posted at 9:21 am on July 8, 2014 by Noah Rothman

Texas Gov. Rick Perry will not meet President Barack Obama on the tarmac when he touches down in Texas on Wednesday to attend a variety of Democratic fundraising events. Instead of a handshake and a photo op, Perry said that he wants to meet privately with the president to discuss the ongoing humanitarian crisis at the border.

In a letter addressed to the president, Perry outlined his reasoning:

“I appreciate the offer to greet you at Austin-Bergstrom Airport, but a quick handshake on the tarmac will not allow for a thoughtful discussion regarding the humanitarian and national security crises enveloping the Rio Grande Valley in South Texas,” Mr. Perry wrote in a letter to the president Monday. “I would instead offer to meet with you at any time during your visit to Texas for a substantive meeting to discuss this critical issue.”

On Tuesday, the hosts of MSNBC’s Morning Joe weighed in on Perry’s refusal to meet the president and, rather than criticizing him for a display of political self-interest and a failure to observe decorum, suggested that he was actually justified in seeking a more substantive meeting with Obama.

“I actually don’t have a complete problem with his statement,” co-host Mika Brzezinski said of Perry’s request.

“It’s the president that just wants the photo op, he just wants the quick and easy handshake, when he has Democrats in his own party saying, ‘There is, in fact, a humanitarian crisis on the border’ and talking about Katrina moments,” host Joe Scarborough said.

“It looks like Rick Perry does have the upper hand when he’s saying basically the same thing Democratic congressmen from the same state [are] saying,” he continued, noting that the “optics” of failing to go to the border is politically perilous for Obama.

Time’s Mark Halperin agreed with both hosts. “I think his schedule will change some way,” he predicted. “Bet on that.”

“Katrina was a shared responsibility on the federal government – state and local government. This is really a federal issue,” he continued. “it’s a humanitarian crisis involving kids, and I think governance matters.”

Rep. Henry Cuellar (D-TX) and USA Today reporter Susan Page have observed that Obama runs the risk of encountering his “Katrina moment” in Texas. As Dave Weigel noted in Slate, hyperbolic members of the press declared Obama that has met his “Katrina moment” in at least eight other crises over the course of his presidency, and each time the president emerges from that crisis politically scarred but still standing.

Why this crisis may have the effect on Obama’s image that Bush’s approach to Hurricane Katrina did is not, as Halperin suggested, a jurisdictional one – whether state, federal, or local authorities abdicated their responsibilities the most. Nor is it, as the many profiled in Weigel’s piece seemed to think, merely a suboptimal response to a crisis. It was Bush’s apparently flippant and casual response to the crisis culminating in two atonal moments which turned a majority of voters off to the president for the rest of his term; the photograph of him flying over the devastation in New Orleans and the infamous moment when he praised FEMA director Michael Brown’s performance in the midst of that crisis.

Obama won’t repeat Bush’s optical mistakes. He is likely to amend his schedule so that he can take in the scene at the border himself where the cameras will find him engaged and making few statements. The president’s approach to this crisis thus far, however, has been aloof, distant, and callous. In that sense, this present crisis does have the potential to have the same effect on Obama’s favorability and job approval ratings as Hurricane Katrina had on Bush.

Obama can still reverse that course and present himself as a leader managing a humanitarian disaster, but he hasn’t done that yet.


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:) You go Rick Perry

gophergirl on July 8, 2014 at 9:25 AM

But isn’t denying Obama the photo op he wants raaaaacist?

ConstantineXI on July 8, 2014 at 9:26 AM

“It’s the president that just wants the photo op,

It’s about time these knuckleheads woke up. Too late for the Country, but there is a slim ray of hope for the future here.

Johnnyreb on July 8, 2014 at 9:26 AM

He’s managing it, all right… exactly the way he wants it to go.

either orr on July 8, 2014 at 9:27 AM

Before Obama can have a “Katrina moment” there would need to be a media both capable of and willing to hold Obama accountable for ANYTHING AT ALL. As it is the media have thus far done everything in their power to protect and defend Obama. As long as he has just such a sycophant media he will never have a “Katrina moment”.

oscarwilde on July 8, 2014 at 9:31 AM

“It’s the president that just wants the photo op, he just wants the quick and easy handshake, when he has Democrats in his own party saying, ‘There is, in fact, a humanitarian crisis on the border’ and talking about Katrina moments,” host Joe Scarborough said.

Obama was hoping for a Chris Christie moment where Rick Perry gives him a big old hug and gushes about how much the lazy stupid rat-eared wonder is giving him.

I do think this has become enough of a story that Obama will have to do a photo-op visit to the border or one of the holding pens DHS has to house the parasites. Even as we speak, I am sure some WH staffer is on the scene picking out the most pathetic looking “migrants” to use as props for some sort of a statement demanding that Congress obey his absurd demands for billions to respond to this situation he refuses to call a humanitarian crisis.

Happy Nomad on July 8, 2014 at 9:31 AM

Obama can still reverse that course and present himself as a leader managing a humanitarian disaster, but he hasn’t done that yet.

The problem is merely expressing concern about it or doing a photo-op at the border is not enough. That’s not gonna stop the neverending stream of illegals coming into this country. Obama’s M.O. has been to express outrage and ignorance over these crises and scandals while doing nothing about them behind closed doors. And for the most part, he’s gotten away with it since the media is more than willing to not cover these stories.

But when we’re dealing with the bodies of dead veterans continuing to pile up in the case of the VA or hundreds of thousands of illegals(including young, abandoned children) pouring into the country, something actually has to be done to fix the problem. And Obama is either unwilling or incapable of this.

Doughboy on July 8, 2014 at 9:31 AM

GOOD!!!!

canopfor on July 8, 2014 at 9:31 AM

MSNBC hosts think Rick Perry’s decision decision to snub Obama is… justified?

…my gawd?…everybody… is losing their minds?

JugEarsButtHurt on July 8, 2014 at 9:32 AM

Despite the fact that the Katrina disastrous aftermath was exactly the OPPOSITE in nature, (as for guilt), I can see their point concerning assigning blame.

pambi on July 8, 2014 at 9:32 AM

The president’s approach to this crisis thus far, however, has been aloof, distant, and callous.

This isn’t a crisis to him, this is what was PLANNED, at least as far back as January when FEMA requested bids on babysitting services for illegal “children”.

What wasn’t planned was the backlash.

He’s dithering not on what to do about the mess on the border, but how to evade responsibility for it.

ConstantineXI on July 8, 2014 at 9:32 AM

At what point will folks get it? 0 loves this and has helped greatly to orchestrate all of it. Might be time to stop listening to the media’s portrayal of events and actually consider your own lying eyes for a change.

Bmore on July 8, 2014 at 9:34 AM

MeanWhile, ……:

The Associated Press @AP · 21h
MORE: The ruling marks a win for advocates who argued the immigrants were harmed by unequal treatment: http://apne.ws/1m8XbJh

The Associated Press @AP · 22h

BREAKING: Appeals court blocks Arizona’s denial of driver’s licenses for young immigrants.

Retweeted by Jordan Fabian
Dan Nowicki @dannowicki · 16h

9th US Circuit Court of Appeals blocks @GovBrewer’s denial of driver licenses to #DACA migrants: http://bit.ly/1oBR5AI (via @yvonnewingett)

http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/2014/07/07/arizonas-denial-drivers-licenses-immigrants-appeals-court-rules-state/12291683/

canopfor on July 8, 2014 at 7:36 AM

canopfor on July 8, 2014 at 9:34 AM

I don’t understand why Perry can’t simply call up the Texas National Guard and send them to the border…all of them…

PatriotRider on July 8, 2014 at 9:34 AM

Why is this an issue now? How many times has Obama been to Texas?

kcewa on July 8, 2014 at 9:35 AM

Despite the fact that the Katrina disastrous aftermath was exactly the OPPOSITE in nature, (as for guilt), I can see their point concerning assigning blame.

pambi on July 8, 2014 at 9:32 AM

The Katrina disaster was going to happen as it did even if Ronald Reagan was President, because Louisiana had two people who are rivaled only by Obama in incompetence and corruption in charge, Governor Kathleen Blanco (DEMOCRAT-Louisiana) and Mayor Ray “Schoolbus” Nagin (DEMOCRAT formerly of Louisiana, currently of PRISON).

The only solution would have also been unpalatable, and that would have been a Federal martial law declaration, allowing Bush to work without dealing with them…

ConstantineXI on July 8, 2014 at 9:37 AM

Obama can still reverse that course and present himself as a leader managing a humanitarian disaster, but he hasn’t done that yet.

Going to the border for a speech about Republican obstruction of “comprehensive immigration reform” and a photo-op isn’t going to cut it.

GarandFan on July 8, 2014 at 9:37 AM

If he should make it to the border his only response will be to blame the gop for not passing immigration reform and not give him $2 billion

Guaranteed

cmsinaz on July 8, 2014 at 9:38 AM

I don’t understand why Perry can’t simply call up the Texas National Guard and send them to the border…all of them…

PatriotRider on July 8, 2014 at 9:34 AM

That is exactly what he should do. And if they were given orders to fire their weapons into the AIR it still would scare them off.

ConstantineXI on July 8, 2014 at 9:38 AM

BTW, there should be more discussion about the way DHS is muzzlng the media during tours of the holding pens where the parasites are being housed:

- No recording devices will be allowed
- No questions will be allowed during the tour
- No interacting with staff and children at the shelter
- We ask that your questions be provided via email or phone after the tour to Kenneth Wolfe
- HHS ACF public affairs will provide answers to your follow up questions as quickly as possible
- We will provide photos of the facility after the tour
- There will be no on-site interviews by HHS staff before or after the tour, all inquiries go to Kenneth Wolfe

In other words, there is no freedom to report any story other than that the administration wants reported. Perry should double down and stand at the border and demand the filthy bastard stop fundraising long enough to see what his policies have wrought on the nation.

Happy Nomad on July 8, 2014 at 9:38 AM

I don’t understand why Perry can’t simply call up the Texas National Guard and send them to the border…all of them…

PatriotRider on July 8, 2014 at 9:34 AM

Money.

kcewa on July 8, 2014 at 9:38 AM

If he should make it to the border his only response will be to blame the gop for not passing immigration reform and not give him $2 billion

Guaranteed

cmsinaz on July 8, 2014 at 9:38 AM

That is exactly what he will do. Demagogues must demagogue. Agitators gotta agitate.

Of course, Obama won’t SPECIFY what this $2 billion is going to be used for, because the god-king is so wise and powerful he doesn’t need to explain himself to the People.

ConstantineXI on July 8, 2014 at 9:40 AM

“Katrina was a shared responsibility on the federal government – state and local government. This is really a federal issue,” he continued. “it’s a humanitarian crisis involving kids, and I think governance matters.”

Earth to Halperin—-when the federal government purposely ignores the plight of what’s happening on Texas’ borders, it becomes a state issue.

Rovin on July 8, 2014 at 9:40 AM

I don’t understand why Perry can’t simply call up the Texas National Guard and send them to the border…all of them…

PatriotRider on July 8, 2014 at 9:34 AM

That is a good question since The Posse Comitatus Act very specifically does not apply to the States National Guard in emergency law enforcement situations.

The Posse Comitatus Act is the United States federal law (18 U.S.C. § 1385, original at 20 Stat. 152) that was passed on June 18, 1878, after the end of Reconstruction and was updated in 1981. Its intent (in concert with the Insurrection Act of 1807) was to limit the powers of Federal government in using federal military personnel to enforce the state laws.

The Act, as modified in 1981, refers to the Armed Forces of the United States. It does not apply to the National Guard under state authority from acting in a law enforcement capacity within its home state or in an adjacent state if invited by that state’s governor.

oscarwilde on July 8, 2014 at 9:40 AM

Obama can still reverse that course and present himself as a leader managing a humanitarian disaster, but he hasn’t done that yet.

This greatest of challenges depends on the MSM being able to keep shoveling the horse manure certain of the pony underneath, well unicorn. It is a most depressing endeavor as I’m sure its just our tax dollar at work.
The whole industry has been shovel ready for so long now, it makes sense every once and awhile some stop and go,”Whew! Do you ever get used to the smell?” Just a dodge. They’re well paid, they’ll go back to shoveling shortly.
Watched a speck of Charlie Rose last night and his drone guests complaining the lack of centralized narrative because of Fox, internet. They lament about it causing the great divide.
The government whining about their lack of Orwellian power, paid for by… me. You.

onomo on July 8, 2014 at 9:40 AM

You paying attention, Christie?

CurtZHP on July 8, 2014 at 9:41 AM

Mika did note that dear leader went to the border…….in2011

cmsinaz on July 8, 2014 at 9:41 AM

Going to the border for a speech about Republican obstruction of “comprehensive immigration reform” and a photo-op isn’t going to cut it.

GarandFan on July 8, 2014 at 9:37 AM

Actually I hope he does this.

It will ENRAGE the people against amnesty even more than they already are.

I still believe this is why Cantor is a soon to be ex-congressman, backlash over Obama’s manufactured border crisis.

ConstantineXI on July 8, 2014 at 9:42 AM

The Obama Administration orchestrated and is perpetuating this “crisis”.To hell with decorum. Perry should publically and loudly demand the President do something to stop it immediately.

RobertE on July 8, 2014 at 9:42 AM

But of course Constantine

cmsinaz on July 8, 2014 at 9:42 AM

That is a good question since The Posse Comitatus Act very specifically does not apply to the States National Guard in emergency law enforcement situations.

That is because the state national guards are actually State Militias.

The Constitution has a whole different (much looser) standard for Militias than it does a federal standing army.

ConstantineXI on July 8, 2014 at 9:43 AM

I still believe this is why Cantor is a soon to be ex-congressman, backlash over Obama’s manufactured border crisis.

ConstantineXI on July 8, 2014 at 9:42 AM

I’m not buying the idea that the only reason Eric Cantor was defeated was his support of amnesty.

Happy Nomad on July 8, 2014 at 9:43 AM

I don’t understand why Perry can’t simply call up the Texas National Guard and send them to the border…all of them…

PatriotRider on July 8, 2014 at 9:34 AM

That is a good question since The Posse Comitatus Act very specifically does not apply to the States National Guard in emergency law enforcement situations.

If a Governor calls out the National Guard then the state has to pay. That’s why Presidents declare National Emergencies when a disaster hits – if it’s in response to a National Emergency the federal gov’t assumes the cost.

kcewa on July 8, 2014 at 9:44 AM

The Obama Administration orchestrated and is perpetuating this “crisis”.To hell with decorum. Perry should publically and loudly demand the President do something to stop it immediately.

RobertE on July 8, 2014 at 9:42 AM

Another thing Perry could do is request the “Minuteman” volunteers to return to the border, and ask that the county sheriffs DEPUTIZE them as a legal Posse.

ConstantineXI on July 8, 2014 at 9:45 AM

Allahpundit ‏@allahpundit 1m

“Refugees,” huh? http://washington.cbslocal.com/2014/07/08/un-urges-us-to-designate-immigrants-as-refugees/

Bmore on July 8, 2014 at 9:46 AM

Ted Cruz ‏@tedcruz 5m

The President is right that we have a humanitarian crisis on our border, but it is a crisis of his own creation: https://soundcloud.com/senator-ted-cruz/sen-ted-cruz-with-sean-hannity-2

Bmore on July 8, 2014 at 9:47 AM

If left to his own devices, Obama would’ve gone down to Texas, done his fundraisers, and left without so much as a backwards glance toward the border. Democrats didn’t want to be on the sticky end of the lollypop when that happened, hence their mild criticism now.

Murf76 on July 8, 2014 at 9:47 AM

Before Obama can have a “Katrina moment” there would need to be a media both capable of and willing to hold Obama accountable for ANYTHING AT ALL. As it is the media have thus far done everything in their power to protect and defend Obama. As long as he has just such a sycophant media he will never have a “Katrina moment”.

oscarwilde on July 8, 2014 at 9:31 AM

Exactly. And should a “Katrina Moment” for obama occur, it will quickly devolve into a week-long rehash about how Bush screwed up…and will take all the focus off of obama. Pretty much like the recent events in Iraq and ISIS.

HumpBot Salvation on July 8, 2014 at 9:47 AM

If a Governor calls out the National Guard then the state has to pay. That’s why Presidents declare National Emergencies when a disaster hits – if it’s in response to a National Emergency the federal gov’t assumes the cost.

kcewa on July 8, 2014 at 9:44 AM

Well, then stop funding worthless art projects, “light rail” and other garbage and transfer the money to this use. After all, protecting the CITIZENS is the FIRST duty of any state, indeed, it’s VERY JUSTIFICATION FOR EXISTING AND IMPOSING TAXES in the first place isn’t it?

ConstantineXI on July 8, 2014 at 9:48 AM

Mika did note that dear leader went to the border…….in2011

cmsinaz on July 8, 2014 at 9:41 AM

Probably one of those visits like the “family trip” to look at oil blobs in Florida. The First Yeti was clearly pissed off that she had to spend time on the beach with Americans ahead of her trip to Spain that is so expensive the actual tab is still classified by the DoD.

Happy Nomad on July 8, 2014 at 9:48 AM

If he should make it to the border his only response will be to blame the gop for not passing immigration reform and not give him $2 billion

Guaranteed

cmsinaz on July 8, 2014 at 9:38 AM

cmsinaz: On that 2 Billion,..and Good Morning:)

July 8, 2014
Administration backtracks on seeking authority to deport border kids
******

President Barack Obama is preparing to ask Congress for emergency spending of more than $2 billion to deal with the crisis of unaccompanied kids at the Southern border,

but for now he won’t seek legal changes to send the children back home more quickly.
(More….)
===========

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2014/07/administration_backtracks_on_seeking_authority_to_deport_border_kids.html

canopfor on July 8, 2014 at 9:48 AM

Probably one of those visits like the “family trip” to look at oil blobs in Florida. The First Yeti was clearly pissed off that she had to spend time on the beach with Americans ahead of her trip to Spain that is so expensive the actual tab is still classified by the DoD.

Happy Nomad on July 8, 2014 at 9:48 AM

Be careful, it’s been known to rip people’s arms out of their sockets when it loses.

ConstantineXI on July 8, 2014 at 9:48 AM

I doubt Dem O will change his plans. He can’t seem to understand that he is not “all-knowing.” This phrase, unfortunately, says it all: “The [democrat] president’s approach to this crisis thus far, however, has been aloof, distant, and callous.”

The vast majority of teachers, sociologists, child psychologists [most of who vote democrat] say children should be with their families. Well, then…. why a different tune now? Break down our country? Remember, what goes around, comes around. While many of us will pay before others, this dismantling of the greatest nation for more people ever, will hurt the planet.

MN J on July 8, 2014 at 9:49 AM

I wonder if there are any protests in the works for when Obama arrives in Dallas. Hmmm.

Midas on July 8, 2014 at 9:49 AM

https://twitter.com/markknoller

Mark Knoller @markknoller · 21s

WH to send request to Congress today for some $2billion in funding with which to respond to the surge in illegal migration into the US.

Replied to 0 times

Mark Knoller @markknoller · 8m

Perry turned down a guick handshake and exchange of words on the tarmac when POTUS arrives in Texas tomorrow. Insisted on substantive mtg.

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Mark Knoller @markknoller · 9m

.@PressSec says Pres Obama doesn’t need to visit the border because he’s very aware of situation there.

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Mark Knoller @markknoller · 11m

Still no plans for POTUS to visit the border itself, but he’ll also meet with advocates of expanded shelters for unaccompanied minors.

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Mark Knoller @markknoller · 14m

Under pressure to address the illegal border crossings while in Texas Wed & Thurs., Pres Obama to mee

canopfor on July 8, 2014 at 9:50 AM

Obama caused this.
Must he go to admire his
Careful handiwork?

Haiku Guy on July 8, 2014 at 9:50 AM

While I agree with what Perry has done all that’s going to happen is the manchild will do is throw a tantrum because he was snubbed.

wifarmboy on July 8, 2014 at 9:51 AM

I don’t understand why Perry can’t simply call up the Texas National Guard and send them to the border…all of them…

PatriotRider on July 8, 2014 at 9:34 AM

Money. When the Governor calls up the Guard the State covers the entire tab. He could do it, at least for a brief time but it wouldn’t last long and things would go back exactly as they were before with money spent for nothing.

Johnnyreb on July 8, 2014 at 9:52 AM

HN heh

Morning canopfor

$2billion for that?????
Puhleeze

cmsinaz on July 8, 2014 at 9:52 AM

If a Governor calls out the National Guard then the state has to pay. That’s why Presidents declare National Emergencies when a disaster hits – if it’s in response to a National Emergency the federal gov’t assumes the cost.

kcewa on July 8, 2014 at 9:44 AM

As a Texan, my response to this is ‘so be it’.

I can’t think of anything the state should be paying for that’s more important at this precise moment in time.

Midas on July 8, 2014 at 9:52 AM

Um, “decision decision?” Headline editor on vacation?

PJ Emeritus on July 8, 2014 at 9:53 AM

“Katrina moment” ? Is that where President Bush asked Governor Blanco and Mayor Nagin days before the storm that they should evacuate and ask for federal military assistance because he could not order it due to Posse Comitatus? Then democrat politicians said no because they did not want to give Bush and credit for planning. And of course years before they took the federal funds to shore up and maintain the retaining walls and built bike paths. Or that President Bush did not go to Katrina and interrupt resources in the emergency. Or where Oprah and the police chief claimed there were dead bodies in refrigerators in the Super Dome and babies were being raped? Or where Republican counties handled the crisis without all the gimme and blame? Or where the Coast Guard took control from the local lazies and saved lives. Or where Houston and others in red state Texas gave heroic help and resources without complaint?

Katrina Moment is a left media lie, like global warming.

Connecticut on July 8, 2014 at 9:53 AM

David Burge ‏@iowahawkblog 1m

Remember, these kids can’t be deported because of a US immigration law. And lord knows we’re sticklers about enforcing immigration law.

Bmore on July 8, 2014 at 9:54 AM

I don’t understand why Perry can’t simply call up the Texas National Guard and send them to the border…all of them…

PatriotRider on July 8, 2014 at 9:34 AM

Funding. Guard budgets are compromised of both Federal and state monies. You know the Federal money isn’t coming and the additional state money has to go through Austin. Moreover, the Guard are still Federal troops and the Commander-in-Chief can supercede the order of a Governor. Further, are you going to arm and grant them police powers? It starts getting difficult there.

M240H on July 8, 2014 at 9:54 AM

While I agree with what Perry has done all that’s going to happen is the manchild will do is throw a tantrum because he was snubbed.

wifarmboy on July 8, 2014 at 9:51 AM

No matter what he does, the optics of going to Texas for fundraisers with this crisis of his own creation going on are horrible and CANNOT be spun.

I honestly thing the LSM is starting to go into PANIC!!! mode because THEY are finally starting to realize he’s not as brilliant as he thinks he is…

ConstantineXI on July 8, 2014 at 9:54 AM

Um, “decision decision?” Headline editor on vacation?

PJ Emeritus on July 8, 2014 at 9:53 AM

Not sure if it is missing a comma or if Noah just moves too fast for his own good sometimes.

Bmore on July 8, 2014 at 9:55 AM

Obama won’t repeat Bush’s optical mistakes.

Of course not.

A – “Bush’s optical mistake” was a media fabrication, and nothing more.

B – Said media will do quite the opposite for Obama, protecting him from the optics of this reality of Obama’s doing from harming him.

Midas on July 8, 2014 at 9:56 AM

After all, protecting the CITIZENS is the FIRST duty of any state, indeed, it’s VERY JUSTIFICATION FOR EXISTING AND IMPOSING TAXES in the first place isn’t it?

ConstantineXI on July 8, 2014 at 9:48 AM

The ONLY duty and justification. The thing is – Texas already has a budget. By law it can’t exceed that budget and run a deficit. The cost of Mobilizing the National Guard even for a short period is probably way more than the total budget of Texas. If the Texas National Guard is even big enough to make a difference.

This is on Obama. Or maybe the Congress?

kcewa on July 8, 2014 at 9:56 AM

The president’s approach to this crisis thus far, however, has been aloof, distant, and callous. In that sense, this present crisis does have the potential to have the same effect on Obama’s favorability and job approval ratings as Hurricane Katrina had on Bush.

Katrina was an Act of God. This crisis on the border is the direct, and predictable, result of Obama’s policies. He can point his finger at the Republicans all he wants – but it does NOT

TarheelBen on July 8, 2014 at 9:57 AM

I wonder if there are any protests in the works for when Obama arrives in Dallas. Hmmm.

Midas on July 8, 2014 at 9:49 AM

Aside from finding some pathetic children to use as props, I am sure that any planned trip to the border is going to be kept very quiet because protesters do not fit the narrative the administration is trying to sell.

Happy Nomad on July 8, 2014 at 9:57 AM

In a letter addressed to the president…

Well, not really.
Or maybe this was a hand written note which Perry never intended to be released and broadcast…widely.
/

Governors meet Presidents when they visit States.
It’s in the handbook.
And is as clear now and it was before, Obama would be more than willing to meet with Perry for a substantive meeting.
But now Perry has assured it will be the photo opp that he’s seeking.

it’s a humanitarian crisis involving kids

If only that was what this was really about – and Perry wanted to substantively address that issue.

verbaluce on July 8, 2014 at 9:57 AM

What I was saying before accidentally hitting “submit.” He can point his finger at the Republicans all he wants – but it does NOT take some kind of comprehensive reform for him to do his duty and secure the damn border.

TarheelBen on July 8, 2014 at 9:57 AM

TarheelBen on July 8, 2014 at 9:59 AM

Aside from finding some pathetic children to use as props, I am sure that any planned trip to the border is going to be kept very quiet because protesters do not fit the narrative the administration is trying to sell.

Happy Nomad on July 8, 2014 at 9:57 AM

Not that – I literally mean ‘Dallas’, where he’s meeting with ‘faith leaders’ and invited Perry to join them.

verbaluce on July 8, 2014 at 9:57 AM

Oh, and f*ck you.

Midas on July 8, 2014 at 9:59 AM

Of course not.

A – “Bush’s optical mistake” was a media fabrication, and nothing more.

B – Said media will do quite the opposite for Obama, protecting him from the optics of this reality of Obama’s doing from harming him.

Midas on July 8, 2014 at 9:56 AM

The “heck of a job Brownie” was not a media fabrication. The fact that he initially did a fly-over the effected area WAS a media fabrication.

The MSM is going to paint this as an unexpected humanitarian crisis even though it was fabricated intentionally by this administration.

Happy Nomad on July 8, 2014 at 9:59 AM

I don’t understand why Perry can’t simply call up the Texas National Guard and send them to the border…all of them…

PatriotRider on July 8, 2014 at 9:34 AM

Because it will be treated in the media as a racist redneck ploy just as similar call-ups during the Civil Rights era were and because all Obama needs to do is a pen-swipe on a Federalizing order to stop it, that’s why.

Perry’d be rock-stupid to do that.

ebrown2 on July 8, 2014 at 9:59 AM

This is on Obama. Or maybe the Congress?

kcewa on July 8, 2014 at 9:56 AM

According to Article I, Section 8, this is on Congress, not Obama:

The Congress shall have Power To …provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress….

ARTICLE I, SECTION 8, CLAUSE 16

The President has authority over state militia ONLY when called into the service of the United States, and that only after Congress has called them…

ConstantineXI on July 8, 2014 at 10:01 AM

Not that – I literally mean ‘Dallas’, where he’s meeting with ‘faith leaders’ and invited Perry to join them.

Midas on July 8, 2014 at 9:59 AM

Here’s hoping that the protests are massive. I’d also be interested to know what abortion Barbie has to say on the issue.

Happy Nomad on July 8, 2014 at 10:01 AM

Governors meet Presidents when they visit States.
It’s in the handbook.
And is as clear now and it was before, Obama would be more than willing to meet with Perry for a substantive meeting.
verbaluce on July 8, 2014 at 9:57 AM

Obama comes to Seattle every month or so. The Governor never meets him.

If only that was what this was really about – and Perry wanted to substantively address that issue.

verbaluce on July 8, 2014 at 9:57 AM

If Obama was serious he would declare a National Emergency and call out the National Guard. He doesn’t need a “Christie bear-hug photo-op” to do that

kcewa on July 8, 2014 at 10:02 AM

I don’t understand why Perry can’t simply call up the Texas National Guard and send them to the border…all of them…

PatriotRider on July 8, 2014 at 9:34 AM

Because it will be treated in the media as a racist redneck ploy just as similar call-ups during the Civil Rights era were and because all Obama needs to do is a pen-swipe on a Federalizing order to stop it, that’s why.

Perry’d be rock-stupid to do that.

ebrown2 on July 8, 2014 at 9:59 AM

So in the meantime, we sit by and do nothing as we are overrun.

That’s a *much* better, brilliant plan.

Midas on July 8, 2014 at 10:03 AM

The only reason O is having this meeting is to have the taxpayers pay most of the bill for his little fund raising trip.

RickB on July 8, 2014 at 10:03 AM

The “heck of a job Brownie” was not a media fabrication. The fact that he initially did a fly-over the effected area WAS a media fabrication.

The MSM is going to paint this as an unexpected humanitarian crisis even though it was fabricated intentionally by this administration.

Happy Nomad on July 8, 2014 at 9:59 AM

One constant in the Bush administration was that he had a lot of idiots that he put into important positions not because of their capability but because of their LOYALTY to the Bush clan. People like Harriet Miers, for example, as well as FEMA director Mike Brown.

In this he was similar to Obama.

ConstantineXI on July 8, 2014 at 10:04 AM

In this he was similar to Obama.

ConstantineXI on July 8, 2014 at 10:04 AM

Actually to be honest, in this Obama is repeating what every other president in American history has done.

oscarwilde on July 8, 2014 at 10:06 AM

No matter what he does, the optics of going to Texas for fundraisers with this crisis of his own creation going on are horrible and CANNOT be spun.

I honestly thing the LSM is starting to go into PANIC!!! mode because THEY are finally starting to realize he’s not as brilliant as he thinks he is…

ConstantineXI on July 8, 2014 at 9:54 AM

I agree completely with you just saying that for obama the snub will be the only thing that will stick in his craw.

wifarmboy on July 8, 2014 at 10:06 AM

The President has authority over state militia ONLY when called into the service of the United States, and that only after Congress has called them…

ConstantineXI on July 8, 2014 at 10:01 AM

They delegated that to the President I think:

The National Defense Act, 1916 guaranteed the State militias as the primary reserve force; gave the President the authority to mobilize the Guard during war or national emergency; made use of the term “National Guard” mandatory; authorized drill pay for the first time.

The National Defense Act of 1916 further expanded the Guard’s role and guaranteed the State militias’ status as the Army’s primary reserve force. Furthermore, the law mandated use of the term “National Guard” for that force. Moreover, the President was given authority, in case of war or national emergency, to mobilize the National Guard for the duration of the emergency.

kcewa on July 8, 2014 at 10:06 AM

Don’t worry. Mr. Obama will go to the border. He will make empty pathos pleas that lack substance. He will deflect and demur from the real issue: that he has created this crisis as a means of achieving political ends. That has been his sine qua non in every crisis he has overseen or created.

Now, even children are used as props in his misadventures and nary a word from the media.

This will also come back to haunt our country and communities. It will not only overwhelm our services, schools and hospitals. It will create a waive of crime and threaten our national security. Amongst and lost in the “children” are foreign nationals, gang members and people from terrorist organizations who long ago were known to be using our southern border as an entry point.

Just curious. When the next terrorist attack is perpetrated by foreigners who penetrated our southern border- will Democrats tell the families of victims it was “Republicans fault”?

And has anybody seen or heard Mitch McConnell or John Boehner? Oh that’s right. They are doing the political calculations for $2 billion the president is requesting for his self-made “crisis’.

But there is no money for jobs. Right.

Marcus Traianus on July 8, 2014 at 10:06 AM

So in the meantime, we sit by and do nothing as we are overrun.

That’s a *much* better, brilliant plan.

Midas on July 8, 2014 at 10:03 AM

Just pointing out the realities of the situation, Midas. Our system (and no political system on Earth) was not designed to withstand a Chief Executive who openly detests and wants to destroy the country he governs.

ebrown2 on July 8, 2014 at 10:07 AM

Here’s hoping that the protests are massive. I’d also be interested to know what abortion Barbie has to say on the issue.

Happy Nomad on July 8, 2014 at 10:01 AM

That’s easy…she’d just abort them all…

bimmcorp on July 8, 2014 at 10:07 AM

The only reason O is having this meeting is to have the taxpayers pay most of the bill for his little fund raising trip.

RickB on July 8, 2014 at 10:03 AM

Which is something in the law that must change. $1.4 BILLION a year is FAR TOO MUCH for the taxpayers to spend to feed, clothe and keep the first family. They are provided adequate quarters in DC. They are provided a vacation spot (Camp David) that is MORE than adequate. If the President is going to use AF1 to attend a fundraiser he should not be able to do one brief “official function” to justify charging the taxpayers for the trip, the percentage of the trip SPENT FOR FUNDRAISING should have to be paid by the President or his party.

ConstantineXI on July 8, 2014 at 10:07 AM

Obama can still reverse that course and present himself as a leader managing a humanitarian disaster, but he hasn’t done that yet.

Once fully investigated this will be a “Fast & Furious” type thing instigated by Obama in order to create a border/illegal alien crisis so he can act unilaterally with Presidential executive orders.

albill on July 8, 2014 at 10:08 AM

Governors meet Presidents when they visit States.
It’s in the handbook.
And is as clear now and it was before, Obama would be more than willing to meet with Perry for a substantive meeting.
verbaluce on July 8, 2014 at 9:57 AM

Obama comes to Seattle every month or so. The Governor never meets him.

kcewa on July 8, 2014 at 10:02 AM

I’m sure he often does.
And when he doesn’t…does he draft a Perry-esque press release?
Save the faux indignation.
Politics.
That’s all.
Perry should go have a grown up conversation with the Prez.
Enough with the silly antics.

verbaluce on July 8, 2014 at 10:09 AM

Just pointing out the realities of the situation, Midas. Our system (and no political system on Earth) was not designed to withstand a Chief Executive who openly detests and wants to destroy the country he governs.

ebrown2 on July 8, 2014 at 10:07 AM

This is true. You can’t build a safeguard into a Republic against an electorate hellbent on the DESTRUCTION of the Republic.

ConstantineXI on July 8, 2014 at 10:10 AM

I honestly thing the LSM is starting to go into PANIC!!! mode because THEY are finally starting to realize he’s not as brilliant as he thinks he is…

ConstantineXI on July 8, 2014 at 9:54 AM

I honestly must disagree, the LSM is finally realizing that since they hitched their wagon to Obama, they are the most likely ones to be on the most aggressive receiving end of America’s wrath when the full measure of Obama’s malignancy becomes public knowledge. In other words, it’s just now starting to occur to them that when the torches and pitchforks come out, they are going to be target number One.

oscarwilde on July 8, 2014 at 10:10 AM

Just pointing out the realities of the situation, Midas. Our system (and no political system on Earth) was not designed to withstand a Chief Executive who openly detests and wants to destroy the country he governs.

ebrown2 on July 8, 2014 at 10:07 AM

Correct, not designed to withstand it, but it *was* designed to handle and resolve it.

Midas on July 8, 2014 at 10:11 AM

“Katrina was a shared responsibility on the federal government – state and local government. This is really a federal issue,” he continued. “it’s a humanitarian crisis involving kids, and I think governance matters.”

Why no concern for the humanitarian crisis for the Americans in the towns being required to absorb these invaders? And the invaders ain’t all five year olds.

BuckeyeSam on July 8, 2014 at 10:11 AM

verbaluce on July 8, 2014 at 10:09 AM

You never get tired of being both stupid and wrong do you.

oscarwilde on July 8, 2014 at 10:12 AM

Enough with the silly antics.

verbaluce on July 8, 2014 at 10:09 AM

I agree, Obama should grow up. And you should f*ck off.

Midas on July 8, 2014 at 10:13 AM

I honestly must disagree, the LSM is finally realizing that since they hitched their wagon to Obama, they are the most likely ones to be on the most aggressive receiving end of America’s wrath when the full measure of Obama’s malignancy becomes public knowledge. In other words, it’s just now starting to occur to them that when the torches and pitchforks come out, they are going to be target number One.

oscarwilde on July 8, 2014 at 10:10 AM

I’m of a mind that when the tar and feathering begins, the media should be first. Let the politicians quiver in their footies for a bit while they watch, knowing they are next.

Midas on July 8, 2014 at 10:15 AM

Unaccompanied minors at US southern border
45s

President Obama to hold meeting on border crisis with faith leaders and local officials in Dallas on Wednesday, according to White House letter to Texas Gov. Rick Perry – @PeterAlexander

https://twitter.com/PeterAlexander

canopfor on July 8, 2014 at 10:15 AM

MeanWhile, ……………;

Mark Knoller @markknoller · 12h

Tomorrow afternoon, Pres Obama embarks on 2-day Dem fundraising trip to Denver, Dallas and Austin. Will also deliver 2 economic speeches.

canopfor on July 8, 2014 at 10:16 AM

Raise your hand if you think Obama wants to be exposed to TB, scabies, head lice and who knows what else the uneducated masses are bringing with them.

maryo on July 8, 2014 at 10:17 AM

Enough with the silly antics.

verbaluce on July 8, 2014 at 10:09 AM

Not saying we’re gonna miss you, verbaldouche…don’t let the door hit y’a where the good Lord split ya’…

bimmcorp on July 8, 2014 at 10:17 AM

Just pointing out the realities of the situation, Midas. Our system (and no political system on Earth) was not designed to withstand a Chief Executive who openly detests and wants to destroy the country he governs.

ebrown2 on July 8, 2014 at 10:07 AM

Correct, not designed to withstand it, but it *was* designed to handle and resolve it.

Midas on July 8, 2014 at 10:11 AM

“While our country remains untainted with the principles and manners which are now producing desolation in so many parts of the world; while she continues sincere, and incapable of insidious and impious policy, we shall have the strongest reason to rejoice in the local destination assigned us by Providence. But should the people of America once become capable of that deep simulation towards one another, and towards foreign nations, which assumes the language of justice and moderation, while it is practising iniquity and extravagance, and displays in the most captivating manner the charming pictures of candour, frankness, and sincerity, while it is rioting in rapine and insolence, this country will be the most miserable habitation in the world. Because we have no government, armed with power, capable of contending with human passions, unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge and licentiousness would break the strongest cords of our Constitution, as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other“-John Adams, emphasis mine

ebrown2 on July 8, 2014 at 10:18 AM

Perry should go have a grown up conversation with the Prez.
Enough with the silly antics.

verbaluce on July 8, 2014 at 10:09 AM

Some day you are going to read the top of the thread FULLY, instead of the headlines. All Obama wanted to do was hold a photo op at the airport.

The stupid stinks from you so bad the EPA is going to be knocking at your door anytime now.

Walter L. Newton on July 8, 2014 at 10:18 AM

Raise your hand if you think Obama wants to be exposed to TB, scabies, head lice and who knows what else the uneducated masses are bringing with them.

maryo on July 8, 2014 at 10:17 AM

He’s already got that herpes wart to deal with on his nose…that and a nasty cocaine and tobacco addiction…not to mention a butt ugly wife…

bimmcorp on July 8, 2014 at 10:19 AM

Ok… verbaluce got the negative attention he need today to stroke his DMS classified mental illness. Let’s not help him any further.

Unless he wants to pay us the same co-pay he pays for counseling.

Walter L. Newton on July 8, 2014 at 10:20 AM

I can’t get past the title of this article….’decision decision.’

TeaTrekkie on July 8, 2014 at 10:20 AM

Once fully investigated this will be a “Fast & Furious” type thing instigated by Obama in order to create a border/illegal alien crisis so he can act unilaterally with Presidential executive orders.

albill on July 8, 2014 at 10:08 AM

The premeditation is already provable, in January FEMA requested bids for handling illegal “children” in detention facilities…

ConstantineXI on July 8, 2014 at 10:20 AM

I can’t get past the title of this article….’decision decision.’

TeaTrekkie on July 8, 2014 at 10:20 AM

Neither can verbaluce.

Walter L. Newton on July 8, 2014 at 10:23 AM

How how long long are are you you going going to to leave leave that that headline headline uncorrected uncorrected, Noah Noah??

Just just wondering wondering.

trapeze on July 8, 2014 at 10:24 AM

Once fully investigated this will be a “Fast & Furious” type thing instigated by Obama in order to create a border/illegal alien crisis so he can act unilaterally with Presidential executive orders.

albill on July 8, 2014 at 10:08 AM

The premeditation is already provable, in January FEMA requested bids for handling illegal “children” in detention facilities…

ConstantineXI on July 8, 2014 at 10:20 AM

And the Fifth Column Treasonous Media will make a historic effort to bury it under stories of gay activism and atheist outcries of unwarranted persecution.

oscarwilde on July 8, 2014 at 10:24 AM

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