GOP Rep. Jason Chaffetz: Mitt Romney will run in 2016 — and he’ll win

posted at 4:01 pm on July 8, 2014 by Allahpundit

Via Mediaite, I don’t deny that I enjoy trolling the HA faithful with stories about (groan) yet another Romney campaign, but is it trolling or is it news when the rumor du jour’s coming from a Republican congressman? And Chaffetz is no random House member: Romney endorsed him when he first ran for Congress in Utah in 2008 and Chaffetz returned the favor when Romney ran for president in 2011, even though Chaffetz had been the gubernatorial campaign manager for Romney rival Jon Huntsman. He went on to server as a surrogate for Mitt during media hits after some of the primary debates in 2012. If there’s anyone on the Hill who *might* have an inside track into Romney’s thinking, it’s him.

And yet … no one seriously believes Romney’s running, right? In which case, what’s Chaffetz’s angle here? Gotta be one of two things, I think. One: Mitt’s inner circle is worried that Jeb Bush won’t run and that Christie is now too damaged to hold off a conservative in the primaries, so they’re trying to pressure him into reconsidering. Chaffetz’s shpiel here is part of the wider media effort lately by Team Romney to encourage him by showing him that the public might be more receptive to Romney 3.0 than Mitt thinks. Two: Chaffetz knows full well this is BS but he’s pushing it anyway for his own interests, i.e. making sure that Romney’s on his side when he eventually runs for Senate. Chaffetz nearly primaried Orrin Hatch two years ago, remember; ultimately he declined, but Hatch just turned 80 and may well retire when his term is up in 2018. Chaffetz will be just 51 then and eager to fill the vacancy. Utah’s Republican field could be crowded and nasty — Dan Lilijenquist, Hatch’s last challenger, and even Chaffetz’s old boss Huntsman could be eyeing Hatch’s seat — so, assuming one of Romney’s own sons doesn’t run, competition for Mitt’s endorsement and fundraising will be stiff. Maybe Chaffetz is just keeping his ducks in a row here.

Incidentally, since we’re on the subject, what would the Romney 3.0 campaign narrative even look like? Mitt, (in)famously, is a creature of reinvention: When he ran for Senate against Ted Kennedy, he was a Massachusetts moderate; when he ran for president in 2008, he was a staunch social conservative; when he ran in 2012, he was an economy-healing technocrat. I assume he’d stick with the last message for 2016, but that’s complicated by the fact that (a) the economy will probably be better than it was in 2012, which bodes ill for a guy whose economic message didn’t work the last time, and (b) Democrats will be running against income inequality, which makes Mr. “47 Percent” uniquely poorly suited to parry their attacks. So what does he run as, then? As a foreign-policy candidate? Apart from 2004, which was sui generis because it followed 9/11, when was the last time someone won the presidency running on foreign policy?


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Why would he win?

He won’t be running against someone as incompetent as Obama, and the IRS won’t be any less corrupt.

ConstantineXI on July 8, 2014 at 4:05 PM

Oh, God. Just no.

This is too painful to even laugh at.

Aizen on July 8, 2014 at 4:05 PM

Jason Chaffetz is smoking something.

idesign on July 8, 2014 at 4:07 PM

Thompson-Romney…. because reverse mortgages are the key to prosperity…..

Bradky on July 8, 2014 at 4:07 PM

I call b.s.

NOT…..A …….CHANCE…..

MistyLane on July 8, 2014 at 4:07 PM

OH HELL NO!

rightside on July 8, 2014 at 4:10 PM

Why would he win?

He won’t be running against someone as incompetent as Obama, and the IRS won’t be any less corrupt.

ConstantineXI on July 8, 2014 at 4:05 PM

He’d probably be running against Hillary (Oh woe is me I’m broke) Clinton or Lizzy (Take all the money from the evil rich people) Warren.

Both are nuts. Both would try to use the woman card in a debate and both would fail miserably.

Lastly, I think there are lots of people would would love a chance to erase their last vote.

darwin on July 8, 2014 at 4:10 PM

I assume he’d stick with the last message for 2016, but that’s complicated by the fact that (a) the economy will probably be better than it was in 2012, which bodes ill for a guy whose economic message didn’t work the last time,

And what evidence is there of that? That 288,000 new jobs report in which 275,000 new part-time jobs were created?

Bitter Clinger on July 8, 2014 at 4:13 PM

He fought the conservatives better than the oaf, who’s chief. He and his team are beyond stupid.

If he has any decency, he gets lost in charitable endeavors and stfu, like GWB.

Schadenfreude on July 8, 2014 at 4:14 PM

I wouldn’t put it past the party of stupid to run a candidate who didn’t want to win in the last election. I mean this is the party that wants to run another Bush.

melle1228 on July 8, 2014 at 4:14 PM

The sissy lost to an oaf and his sheeple.

Schadenfreude on July 8, 2014 at 4:15 PM

He fought the conservatives better than the oaf, who’s chief. He and his team are beyond stupid.

If he has any decency, he gets lost in charitable endeavors and stfu, like GWB.

Schadenfreude on July 8, 2014 at 4:14 PM

This- a million times this ^^^

melle1228 on July 8, 2014 at 4:15 PM

The joke continues…

But it’s not April Fools Day.

The intense dislike or even hatred for this smirking equivocating issue-skirting pretender is deep across most quarters of the GOP, except for among the elite establishment leftist types. If Romney managed to again divide the field and somehow pull off the re-nomination, this time the repercussions would be brutal for the GOP.

If this double-talking, self-described “non-partisan progressive” and “severe conservative” that in the past (and for many of the issues, the present) has been a big supporter of amnesty, climate change, gun control, abortion, gays in the military, gay marriage, and other leftist things that I’m certainly forgetting, it would be an earthquake. A bad one.

anotherJoe on July 8, 2014 at 4:16 PM

Maybe we need a Romney to transition us to Ted Cruz.

BuckeyeSam on July 8, 2014 at 4:16 PM

GOP Rep. Believes Romney will Run and Aliens Built the Pyramids. But Mostly Romney will Run.

I don’t believe Romney wants to run. Yet people keep throwing his hat in the ring.

I’m a little tired of arguing that we shouldn’t have another desperate politician like Clinton or Bush running, only the have the GOP toss in…another worn out politician.

Say it with me: we need a leader, not another politician.

Marcus Traianus on July 8, 2014 at 4:16 PM

Oh please no

gophergirl on July 8, 2014 at 4:16 PM

What evidence is there that the economy will be better? A meltdown is more likely.

cat_owner on July 8, 2014 at 4:16 PM

Todd Starnes told Sean Hannity on FOX News tonight that the illegal immigrant children held at Lackland Air Force base in Oklahoma are bringing diseases into America. The children have tuberculosis, scabies and lice so bad you can see them running down their faces.

“It’s one giant emergency room. They tell me tuberculosis has become a very dangerous issue there. Nurses say the number of children representing symptoms of tuberculosis is ‘simply staggering.’ Spitting up blood, chest pains, constant coughing. There are at least three confirmed cases for the illegals in Austin, Texas… The federal government is covering up the threat of the health crisis. They say the kids have scabies. They also say they have chicken pox. And lice so severe they can be seen crawling down the faces of the children.“

Thank you, Barack Obama.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/07/todd-starnes-illegal-immigrant-children-have-lice-so-severe-they-can-be-seen-crawling-down-their-faces-video/

davidk on July 8, 2014 at 4:16 PM

I’ll repeat what I said in the Headlines thread. Romney could theoretically run on a “see I told ya so” campaign and might even win. But any GOP nominee could do the same other than maybe CRISTie because of that infamous Obama bearhug.

Doughboy on July 8, 2014 at 4:17 PM

The Romneycare-inventing, gay marriage implementing, abortion-supporting, cap-and-trade favoring, gun control signing severe conservative who lost in a landslide, hated 47% of Americans and thought all of the trees were the right height?

Uh, no.

Stoic Patriot on July 8, 2014 at 4:17 PM

Did Chaffetz say Romney would win last time? Can we bet money on this?

Dongemaharu on July 8, 2014 at 4:17 PM

… but Hatch just turned 80 and may well retire when his term is up in 2018.

And that, folks, is everything that is wrong in Washington. They don’t live in our world; they live in theirs, always sure of their entitlement to the exalted life.

As I said when this ran in the Headlines earlier … I have absolutely no reason to believe Mitt Romney would, if elected, do anything to reduce the size of the Federal government, or reduce welfare, or reform the tax code [most importantly the corporate code] to reduce rates but eliminate credits and deductions thereby reducing lobbying and corruption …

And this is true of Chaffetz. The professional political class exists solely to direct the Federal largesse toward their benfactors, not to fulfill campaign promises.

M240H on July 8, 2014 at 4:18 PM

I think Chaffetz’s father’s ex-wife’s husband has a better chance of making a political comeback in 2016 and getting elected president than Mitt does.

J.S.K. on July 8, 2014 at 4:19 PM

Cruz-Palin 50 electoral votes or bust!

Bradky on July 8, 2014 at 4:20 PM

He ain’t the best, I’m just not sure who is better?

Some potential candidates are good on policy, which is only part of the presidency, but none have his resume of accomplishments and leadership.

Tater Salad on July 8, 2014 at 4:22 PM

Incidentally, since we’re on the subject, what would the Romney 3.0 campaign narrative even look like?

read the etch-a-sketch and find out!!

Sachiko on July 8, 2014 at 4:22 PM

Somehow, I don’t think so. I don’t think Romney would fair so well in the caucuses.

rickv404 on July 8, 2014 at 4:23 PM

If he were to run against Hillary he would win, just sayin……

Johnnyreb on July 8, 2014 at 4:25 PM

I assume he’d stick with the last message for 2016, but that’s complicated by the fact that (a) the economy will probably be better than it was in 2012, which bodes ill for a guy whose economic message didn’t work the last time, and (b) Democrats will be running against income inequality, which makes Mr. “47 Percent” uniquely poorly suited to parry their attacks.

I’m not eager for a Mitt redux, but that assumes facts that are highly likely to not be in evidence. Why would the economy be better in 2016, especially with Obamacare in full flower?

Mr. D on July 8, 2014 at 4:25 PM

Incidentally, since we’re on the subject, what would the Romney 3.0 campaign narrative even look like?

Hopefully, we won’t find out.

nobar on July 8, 2014 at 4:26 PM

Any chance Brett Favre can continue his favreward mittmentum and get the Vikings over the hump too?

cbenoistd on July 8, 2014 at 4:26 PM

Cruz-Palin 50 electoral votes or bust!

Bradky on July 8, 2014 at 4:20 PM

It’s true, Romney would lose better.

Dongemaharu on July 8, 2014 at 4:28 PM

Romney, who would have never been in politics had he not self-financed his way through various bumbling elections (including his winning the MA Governership in 2002 with less than a majority of the votes in a Republican wave year), was asked in early August of 2012 about ChickFilA, which had conservatives fired up across the board, but the “morally superior” Romney deflated his own campaign by saying “my campaign is not about that,” or about protests regarding another Ground Zero Mosque type matter. After all, Romney was smarter and better than the rest us, and those issues were below Romney’s superior dignity, because Romney is, as everyone says, “a good man.” For Romney the election was all “about the economy” even though no one cared anymore about that. Or about Big Bird, whatever.

I call bs. Huge. Romney is NOT “a good man.” To bullshit or lie (talk to Huckabee about that) his way to the nomination, and then the Romneycare architect barely touched upon key issues that were essential to winning the election as Obamacare, illegal immigration, gay marriage, as well as NOT going hard against “the nice man” Obama. He was too good for all that. But he deceived us. He might as well have been with the enemy. No, a “good man” doesn’t become the Manchurian candidate of his own supposed party. No, he’s not good.

anotherJoe on July 8, 2014 at 4:30 PM

That’s funny…haha. BTW, he couldn’t even beat Obama. If he showed his true colors, he’d switch to the Democratic party and beat Hillary in their primaries, but will be thrashed in the Presidential election. He best take Jeb and Christie for a visit to Crist’s house during the elections…

Karmi on July 8, 2014 at 4:30 PM

Do people really want to relive summer of 2012? I know I don’t. I don’t want my candidate on a jet ski when he’s being smeared by a nutty Dem operative on television as a criminal or perjurer.

If Mitt Romney were a business, Bain Capital would never invest in it. They’d say “let me see your books” and then stare open-mouthed at the poor past performance, the clueless management.

Mitt Romney is 1 for 4 in elections. He has never gotten 50% in a general election. Ever. Not even against a clueless Martha Coakley type in his lone victory in 2002.

Mitt Romney failed to beat a weak incumbent when he had over a billion dollars raised. What did that money go to? Certainly not competent GOTV architecture or hard-hitting ads. Mitt Romney is supposed to be Mr. Fix-it, the Turnaround Artist, but he couldn’t even hire an internal pollster to give him accurate numbers. Mitt Romney was floored on election night when he discovered that he had managed to win only one swing state.

Mitt “Nobody Ever Wanted to Be President Less” Romney will lose against any Democratic, even Liz Warren. Bank on it.

Enough.

will77jeff on July 8, 2014 at 4:30 PM

Cruz-Palin 50 electoral votes or bust!

Bradky on July 8, 2014 at 4:20 PM

Bradky’s prognostication skillz are still teh AWESOME!!!! lol Still haven’t gotten used to saying “President Romney” for some reason.

ddrintn on July 8, 2014 at 4:31 PM

80 comments or bust. Feel that groundswell electricity in the air.

ddrintn on July 8, 2014 at 4:36 PM

Cruz-Palin 50 electoral votes or bust!

Bradky on July 8, 2014 at 4:20 PM

Yes, because just missing with a ‘lesser of two evils’ candidate helps one sleep so much better.

Forgive me if “at this point” I’d rather lose with a couple of abrasive “unelectables” that tell the truth.

M240H on July 8, 2014 at 4:37 PM

Chaffetz, the GOPe’s newest poster boy.

He’s as much of a dumb$h!t as Rove or any of the rest of the GOPe are.

Romney, or any other Northeast Progressive (D)-Lite, GOPe yes-man wins the nomination, and it will not only be another (R) loss in 2016, but will be the end of the GOP entirely.

Meople on July 8, 2014 at 4:37 PM

Palin/Cruz 2016. Only thing that beats the Hildebeast or Fauxchahontas.

pdigaudio on July 8, 2014 at 4:38 PM

As an aside: why is Orrin Hatch still in D.C.? EIGHTY years old??? Get a bed in a retirement home already.

will77jeff on July 8, 2014 at 4:38 PM

He had his chance and blew it by not going after Obama on Benghazi in Sept. 2012.

J.B. Say on July 8, 2014 at 4:38 PM

Yes, because just missing with a ‘lesser of two evils’ candidate helps one sleep so much better.

Forgive me if “at this point” I’d rather lose with a couple of abrasive “unelectables” that tell the truth.

M240H on July 8, 2014 at 4:37 PM

Exactly! If we are going to lose anyways; might as well bloody up their candidate as much as possible.

melle1228 on July 8, 2014 at 4:39 PM

ddrintn on July 8, 2014 at 4:31 PM

You are too easy…. bait, hook,catch. Mission accomplished.

Bradky on July 8, 2014 at 4:39 PM

Yep, because the GOP deserves its own Adlai Stevenson!

Red Widow on July 8, 2014 at 4:39 PM

Should I vomit now or later?

Can we all say “Dole”, “McCain” and “Romney 1.0…err 2.something?!?”

Yeah…vomit now.

miConsevative on July 8, 2014 at 4:40 PM

Cruz-Palin 50 electoral votes or bust!

Bradky on July 8, 2014 at 4:20 PM

Funny how the Romney trolls can’t defend their chosen candidate, despite 2 recent losses.

nobar on July 8, 2014 at 4:41 PM

Hell no…not after the hit piece his henchman Stu Stevens did on McDaniel in the Daily Beast today. Do u remember the skewering the conservative candidates running against Romney for the nomination got? And what a pansy Romney was when it came to Obama so they wouldn’t offend his supporters…well how’s that working out for us now??? These bad boys are up to their old RINO tricks and we will lose again. No No No and thousands times more.

gracie on July 8, 2014 at 4:41 PM

He had his chance and blew it by not going after Obama on Benghazi in Sept. 2012.

J.B. Say on July 8, 2014 at 4:38 PM

He started to, then the media (as usual) sided with Obama and basically said “how could you?” and Mitt meekly went silent.

Bitter Clinger on July 8, 2014 at 4:41 PM

GOP Rep. Jason Chaffetz: Mitt Romney will run in 2016 — and he’ll win

Now we know who bluegill’s alter ego is.

RickB on July 8, 2014 at 4:42 PM

Yep, because the GOP deserves its own Adlai Stevenson!

Red Widow on July 8, 2014 at 4:39 PM

With all the comedy of a Pat Paulsen run.

Bitter Clinger on July 8, 2014 at 4:43 PM

ddrintn on July 8, 2014 at 4:31 PM

You are too easy…. bait, hook,catch. Mission accomplished.

Bradky on July 8, 2014 at 4:39 PM

What, a comment pointing out that politically you can’t find your own arse with both hands and a map?

ddrintn on July 8, 2014 at 4:45 PM

I remember when AP used to be serious.

Real research, biting humor, hard-hitting commentary, useful insight.

~

Now Salem has dumbed him down to the point where he is acceptable as corporate pablum, and like an old retired boxer he just sits there over his beer, reliving every punch he failed to duck, every cut that made him taste his own blood.

His only amusement nowadays is rattling the monkey cage to hear them screech and howl and throw poop. Allah’s Old Faithful was immigration: the old tried-and-true “Boehner’s about to betray us on amnesty!!!!11!” worked time and time again, because monkeys aren’t very smart.

~

But sooner or later even the dumbest monkey realizes that with a crisis at the border, there is no chance of any of that. So AP pulls out the next best thing, threatening them with a nominee that gets them going.

Well played, sir!

Adjoran on July 8, 2014 at 4:46 PM

Cruz-Palin 50 electoral votes or bust!

Bradky on July 8, 2014 at 4:20 PM

Funny how the Romney trolls can’t defend their chosen candidate, despite 2 recent losses.

nobar on July 8, 2014 at 4:41 PM

“But…but…PALIN!!!1111!!!” lol Same as it ever was.

ddrintn on July 8, 2014 at 4:46 PM

Romney might run, but he couldn’t win.

He would choose incompetent cultists as advisors and would always choose to do the nice thing over the tough, but right thing.

ROCnPhilly on July 8, 2014 at 4:46 PM

Sure…why not?

The Unmitigated Disaster Known As Project ORCA

“What is Project Orca? Well, this is what they told us:

Project ORCA is a massive undertaking – the Republican Party’s newest, unprecedented and most technologically advanced plan to win the 2012 presidential election.

Pretty much everything in that sentence is false. The “massive undertaking” is true, however. It would take a lot of planning, training and coordination to be done successfully (oh, we’ll get to that in a second). This wasn’t really the GOP’s effort, it was Team Romney’s. And perhaps “unprecedented” would fit if we’re discussing failure.

The entire purpose of this project was to digitize the decades-old practice of strike lists. The old way was to sit with your paper and mark off people that have voted and every hour or so, someone from the campaign would come get your list and take it back to local headquarters. Then, they’d begin contacting people that hadn’t voted yet and encourage them to head to the polls. It’s worked for years.

From the very start there were warning signs. After signing up, you were invited to take part in nightly conference calls. The calls were more of the slick marketing speech type than helpful training sessions. There was a lot of “rah-rahs” and lofty talk about how this would change the ballgame.

Working primarily as a web developer, I had some serious questions. Things like “Has this been stress tested?”, “Is there redundancy in place?” and “What steps have been taken to combat a coordinated DDOS attack or the like?”, among others. These types of questions were brushed aside (truth be told, they never took one of my questions). They assured us that the system had been relentlessly tested and would be a tremendous success….

Next, and this part I find mind-boggingly absurd, the web address was located at “https://www.whateveritwas.com/orca”. Notice the “s” after http. This denotes it’s a secure connection, something that’s used for e-commerce and web-based email. So far, so good. The problem is that they didn’t auto-forward the regular “http” to “https” and as a result, many people got a blank page and thought the system was down. Setting up forwarding is the simplest thing in the world and only takes seconds, but they failed to do it. This is compounded by the fact that mobile browsers default to “http” when you just start with “www” (as 95% of the world does).

By 2PM, I had completely given up. I finally got ahold of someone at around 1PM and I never heard back. From what I understand, the entire system crashed at around 4PM. I’m not sure if that’s true, but it wouldn’t surprise me. I decided to wait for my wife to get home from work to vote, which meant going very late (around 6:15PM). Here’s the kicker, I never got a call to go out and vote. So, who the hell knows if that end of it was working either.

So, the end result was that 30,000+ of the most active and fired-up volunteers were wandering around confused and frustrated when they could have been doing anything else to help. Like driving people to the polls, phone-banking, walking door-to-door, etc. We lost by fairly small margins in Florida, Virginia, Ohio and Colorado. If this had worked could it have closed the gap? I sure hope not for my sanity’s sake.

The bitter irony of this entire endeavor was that a supposedly small government candidate gutted the local structure of GOTV efforts in favor of a centralized, faceless organization in a far off place (in this case, their Boston headquarters). Wrap your head around that….”

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/334783.php

workingclass artist on July 8, 2014 at 4:48 PM

Not my first choice but if he was the nominee I’d happily vote for him and would work my tail off to get him across the finish line. We could certainly do worse.

Texas Zombie on July 8, 2014 at 4:48 PM

gracie on July 8, 2014 at 4:41 PM

Don’t forget Romney’s 2012 campaign press secretary, Andrea Saul (who previously worked for John McCain and Charlie Crist) was hired by Mark Zuckerberg.

Wigglesworth on July 8, 2014 at 4:48 PM

Successful Conservative Governor for the win…

God Bless Texas!

workingclass artist on July 8, 2014 at 4:49 PM

Bradky voted for obama.

Schadenfreude on July 8, 2014 at 4:50 PM

Bradky voted for obama.

Schadenfreude on July 8, 2014 at 4:50 PM

I doubt it. Bradky’s Grade-A GOPe toady through and through.

ddrintn on July 8, 2014 at 4:53 PM

We could certainly do worse.

Texas Zombie on July 8, 2014 at 4:48 PM

No. No we couldn’t.

Stoic Patriot on July 8, 2014 at 4:53 PM

We could certainly do worse.

Texas Zombie on July 8, 2014 at 4:48 PM

How? He was a lukewarm candidate who ran against a weak President, and failed to go after his opponent as hard as he did his opponents in the primaries. He didn’t even want to be President by all accounts.

How could we lose any worse?

melle1228 on July 8, 2014 at 4:55 PM

We could certainly do worse.

Texas Zombie on July 8, 2014 at 4:48 PM

No. No we couldn’t.

Stoic Patriot on July 8, 2014 at 4:53 PM

LOL…

ddrintn on July 8, 2014 at 4:56 PM

Cruz-Palin 50 electoral votes or bust!

Bradky on July 8, 2014 at 4:20 PM

Funny how the Romney trolls can’t defend their chosen candidate, despite 2 recent losses.

nobar on July 8, 2014 at 4:41 PM

I, too, was one who was called a “Romneybot” here. Honestly, I believed he was the best of lot we had to work with and, in Buckley fashion, the most electable candidate. I do not regret my choice but I did learn a lesson: the demographics of this country do not favor Conservatism. And those demographics are worsening aided along by a lawless and reckless administration.

I believe our best hope now is to convince a portion of those who vote self-interest over principle, i.e. the government dependents, that the Democrats are not genuinely interested in the welfare of the dependent as they are actively seeking to increase the numbers in a nation where the pie to be sliced is shrinking.

As I stated above, I would now rather support an agressive candidate who does not fear truth-telling and who I believe will more closely adhere to my own principles in an effort to ‘right the ship’.

M240H on July 8, 2014 at 4:56 PM

Alf Landon 2.0 . . .

RedPepper on July 8, 2014 at 4:56 PM

About as big a chance as that of Brasil to win this year.

Rix on July 8, 2014 at 4:58 PM

Face it. bradky trolled, obviously so, and some of you got hooked.

When trolls make absurd statements, don’t give them the satisfaction.

davidk on July 8, 2014 at 4:58 PM

Honestly, I believed he was the best of lot we had to work with and, in Buckley fashion, the most electable candidate. I do not regret my choice but I did learn a lesson: the demographics of this country do not favor Conservatism.

M240H on July 8, 2014 at 4:56 PM

How do you know if you don’t run a conservative candidate?

ddrintn on July 8, 2014 at 4:58 PM

Face it. bradky trolled, obviously so, and some of you got hooked.

When trolls make absurd statements, don’t give them the satisfaction.

davidk on July 8, 2014 at 4:58 PM

Why not? I like to see the Mittbots-in-rehab still giving their sage advice and insight.

ddrintn on July 8, 2014 at 4:59 PM

Mormon wishcasting, and nothing more.

Jedditelol on July 8, 2014 at 5:00 PM

As a former die-hard Paulnut I hated Mitt in both primary runs, and I truly regret not doing more to help him win in 2012. If the third times the charm then that’s that. Romney/Huntsman beats the American Mugabe anyday. Yes, he’ll still sell out on some issues, but honestly, so would anyone else running. Not an endorsement, just an observation.

abobo on July 8, 2014 at 5:02 PM

Well bless Chaffetz’s little heart…

annoyinglittletwerp on July 8, 2014 at 5:05 PM

How do you know if you don’t run a conservative candidate?

ddrintn on July 8, 2014 at 4:58 PM

I am not a GOP strategist so I don’t “run” candidates. I’m just a plain old voter and I’ve voted for those I deemed the best available. The point I was making, which you are pointedly ignoring, is that I’m not going to do that anymore. I will only vote for those that reflect my values, which are predominately Conservative.

M240H on July 8, 2014 at 5:06 PM

Yes, because just missing with a ‘lesser of two evils’ candidate helps one sleep so much better.

Forgive me if “at this point” I’d rather lose with a couple of abrasive “unelectables” that tell the truth.

M240H on July 8, 2014 at 4:37 PM

You will find any excuse possible to lose to the socialists.
Your 3rd party pipe dream is not going to happen.
Forgive me, but I’de rather NOT lose with a couple of abrasive unelectables who tell you want you want to believe.

V7_Sport on July 8, 2014 at 5:08 PM

V7_Sport on July 8, 2014 at 5:08 PM

You’re an a**hole and your own Mom doesn’t care what you think.

M240H on July 8, 2014 at 5:09 PM

Romney? Let’s just skip the election and swear in Hillary.

The Grinch on July 8, 2014 at 5:09 PM

When trolls and Romney supporters say the same things, it doesn’t really matter, does it? I mean, really, trolling isn’t that impressive, except maybe to kids or something. I hate to break it to ya.

Dongemaharu on July 8, 2014 at 5:09 PM

Funny how the Romney trolls can’t defend their chosen candidate, despite 2 recent losses.

nobar on July 8, 2014 at 4:41 PM

Gee, he has been proven 100% correct by domestic and international events since the election, who needs to defend him?
How’s that breaking up of the United States going? Your neo-confederacy going to work better than the last one?

V7_Sport on July 8, 2014 at 5:12 PM

V7_Sport on July 8, 2014 at 5:08 PM

Um, you’ve lost now, two times in a row, with whomever YOU and the rest of the GOPe have thought was the most “electable”. Your credibility on what constitutes “electable”, at this point, is HIGHLY questionable if not outright wrong.

Cruz ’16 no compromises.

Meople on July 8, 2014 at 5:12 PM

I am not a GOP strategist so I don’t “run” candidates. I’m just a plain old voter and I’ve voted for those I deemed the best available. The point I was making, which you are pointedly ignoring, is that I’m not going to do that anymore. I will only vote for those that reflect my values, which are predominately Conservative.

M240H on July 8, 2014 at 5:06 PM

No, the overarching point you made, at least implicitly, is that conservatism cannot win with today’s “demographics”. The predictable defeat of a squish is not really a firm basis on which to make that statement.

ddrintn on July 8, 2014 at 5:13 PM

You’re an a**hole and your own Mom doesn’t care what you think.

M240H on July 8, 2014 at 5:09 PM

Yay… another smart rebuttal from Paul Blart. Go clear out the food court.

V7_Sport on July 8, 2014 at 5:13 PM

The mittens’ rehab didn’t work, fools.

Schadenfreude on July 8, 2014 at 5:14 PM

As I’ve said before, he’s a good man, but I don’t think he wants to go through it again.

Better a Ted Cruz/Rick Perry ticket.

Why would he win?

He won’t be running against someone as incompetent as Obama, and the IRS won’t be any less corrupt.

ConstantineXI on July 8, 2014 at 4:05 PM

You mean Shotgun Joe, Fauxcahontas, or the Hildabeast?

formwiz on July 8, 2014 at 5:16 PM

How’s that breaking up of the United States going? Your neo-confederacy going to work better than the last one?

V7_Sport on July 8, 2014 at 5:12 PM

Well, considering that the ideological lines are not as firm as the last break up, I think it’ll work better, simply due to the fact there will be more than 2 unions (national divorce goes along principles of governance).

nobar on July 8, 2014 at 5:17 PM

Gee, he has been proven 100% correct by domestic and international events since the election, who needs to defend him?

V7_Sport on July 8, 2014 at 5:12 PM

You mean like “Obama’s a nice guy who’s just in over his head”?

ddrintn on July 8, 2014 at 5:17 PM

Chaffetz posed as a Tea Party conservative for a couple years, but the Joy of Power has brought out his Inner RINO, and he is already picking out a bigger house and a new Mercedes for his wife.

Heritage Action

Jaibones on July 8, 2014 at 5:17 PM

Face it. bradky trolled, obviously so…

davidk on July 8, 2014 at 4:58 PM

It’s all he ever does here. Come and piss on something, see who reacts.

Jaibones on July 8, 2014 at 5:19 PM

When trolls and Romney supporters say the same things, it doesn’t really matter, does it? I mean, really, trolling isn’t that impressive, except maybe to kids or something. I hate to break it to ya.

Dongemaharu on July 8, 2014 at 5:09 PM

LOL, exactly. And for about a year and half at this site “troll” and “Romney supporter” were pretty much interchangeable terms.

ddrintn on July 8, 2014 at 5:19 PM

Meople on July 8, 2014 at 5:12 PM

m, you’ve lost now, two times in a row, with whomever

Thanks for your help.

YOU and the rest of the GOPe have thought was the most “electable”.

So anyobe who voted in the primary is now a member of the GOPe? That’s how candidates are chosen, right? Through primaries. You have to get your guy through the primary in order for him to run for office.

Your credibility on what constitutes “electable”, at this point, is HIGHLY questionable if not outright wrong.

You are under the impressiopn that I decide whomever runs. There is an election before the election. I’m sure that if/when you don’t get who you want you will stay home, but that’s what has brought us Obama to begin with.

Cruz ’16 no compromises.

So if you don’t get Ted you are going to stay home, yeah, got you. I’m past trying to heard cats. Do whatever you want. Know though, that there is no conservative case for electing Hillary Clinton, but that didn’t stop so many here from helping to elect Obama.

V7_Sport on July 8, 2014 at 5:20 PM

As an aside: why is Orrin Hatch still in D.C.? EIGHTY years old??? Get a bed in a retirement home already.

will77jeff on July 8, 2014 at 4:38 PM

Fuc& Utah. They re-elected that worthless 57% RINO when he was already senile. Teddy Kennedy’s BFF.

Jaibones on July 8, 2014 at 5:21 PM

but that didn’t stop so many here from helping to elect Obama.

V7_Sport on July 8, 2014 at 5:20 PM

Priceless. You got that Super-Electable moderate you wanted and when he loses, it’s because “so many here” helped elect Obama. The ones who helped elect Obama are the ones who foisted an unelectable moderate on us.

ddrintn on July 8, 2014 at 5:22 PM

Well, considering that the ideological lines are not as firm as the last break up, I think it’ll work better, [a disollusion of the United States of America] simply due to the fact there will be more than 2 unions (national divorce goes along principles of governance).

nobar on July 8, 2014 at 5:17 PM

Yeah, that is so crazy it invalidates pretty much anything else you have to say.

You mean like “Obama’s a nice guy who’s just in over his head”?

ddrintn on July 8, 2014 at 5:17 PM

It would have been satisfying to see him go up and call Obama a vicious little race trading, lawless emperor wannabe traitor, however stunts like that don’t play well outside of places like this blog.

V7_Sport on July 8, 2014 at 5:23 PM

It would have been satisfying to see him go up and call Obama a vicious little race trading, lawless emperor wannabe traitor, however stunts like that don’t play well outside of places like this blog.

V7_Sport on July 8, 2014 at 5:23 PM

False choice. Study the 1980 campaign and see how Reagan referred to Jimmy Carter.

ddrintn on July 8, 2014 at 5:24 PM

however stunts like that don’t play well outside of places like this blog.

V7_Sport on July 8, 2014 at 5:23 PM

By the way, how do you know? You give up the fight before you even start it.

ddrintn on July 8, 2014 at 5:25 PM

but that didn’t stop so many here from helping to elect Obama.

V7_Sport on July 8, 2014 at 5:20 PM

Priceless. You got that Super-Electable moderate you wanted and when he loses, it’s because “so many here” helped elect Obama. The ones who helped elect Obama are the ones who foisted an unelectable moderate on us.

ddrintn on July 8, 2014 at 5:22 PM

You had people campaigning to have conservatives vote for democrats out of supposed conservative principles. The electorate, as expressed through the primaries, are the ones who “gave” you Mitt Romney. You have to persuade them to vote for Palin/Cruz or whomever. Electibility will be a factor in their choice, as it is with anyone who is rational and not living in a fantasy world.

V7_Sport on July 8, 2014 at 5:27 PM

Good guy, but he can’t win the general. Too many dumb identity politics types out there.

DisneyFan on July 8, 2014 at 5:28 PM

Thanks for your help.

V7_Sport on July 8, 2014 at 5:20 PM

Remember, it’s never the fault of our resident sports fan when his favorite candidate gets obliterated. It’s the fault of all those “people who stayed home.”

You know, those people who voted for McCain and not Romney. Never mind that Romney got more total popular votes than McCain. Damn the facts, there are “TruCons” to crusade against!

Good Solid B-Plus on July 8, 2014 at 5:28 PM

GOP Rep. Jason Chaffetz: Mitt Romney will run in 2016 — and he’ll win

…the primary…

flyovermark on July 8, 2014 at 5:28 PM

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