Dems plan to capitalize on Hobby Lobby enthusiasm with birth control blitz

posted at 10:41 am on July 8, 2014 by Noah Rothman

Some core Democratic voters who were thus far chronically unresponsive to stimuli designed to get them enthused about the upcoming midterm elections, have been energized by the Supreme Court’s decision in Hobby Lobby. The left continues to wring their hands over last Monday’s Supreme Court decision; their reactions ranging from dismay over the establishment of an American theocracy to the decrying the outlawing of contraception altogether.

While there has been a lot of consternation and garment-rending on the left over the Court’s decision in Hobby Lobby, there has been comparatively little discussion of any legislative remedy the Congress might adopt in order to reverse this decision. That’s about to change.

According to a report in The Hill, at least three bills are being crafted which are aimed at amending the 1993 Religious Freedom Restoration Act (RFRA), upon which the Supreme Court based the Hobby Lobby decision.

“Democrats want to lure Republicans into a fight over birth control with legislation to reverse the Supreme Court’s decision that ObamaCare may not require certain businesses to include contraception in their employee health coverage,” The Hill’s Elise Viebeck reported.

Democrats are expected to introduce the measures prior to Congress’s August recess as part of an effort to recalibrate the party’s election-year messaging. Their hope is to turn out female voters by casting the court’s decision in Burwell v. Hobby Lobby as a strike against reproductive rights.

And that’s a fight conservatives may welcome. No matter how justified, no matter how righteous, no matter how wrong-headed their opposition may be; Republicans will be stepping into a trap of Democratic design if they allow themselves to be cast as the party opposed to all forms of family planning.

In a piece from last week, I argued that the Republicans will lose the so-called War on Women if they refuse to acknowledge that young, single women’s concerns about the GOP are legitimate. The Republicans are ceding critical territory by laughing off their misguided belief that the Republican Party is a fundamentalist religious institution. Theirs is an impression which must be countered, even if that is a distasteful prospect.

Republicans also have the short-term imperative of blunting Democratic momentum ahead of the fall midterms which represent the last, best opportunity for the GOP to retake the Senate. From the NBC News First Read team, often an informative window into Democratic thinking on political and strategic matters, reveals that the president’s party is relying on women voters to halt the GOP horde’s advance at the big, blue gates.

Turning from the White House and Congress to yesterday’s big Hobby Lobby decision at the Supreme Court, we observed that Democratic candidates seemed more excited to talk about the Hobby Lobby case than immigration. Of course, one of main reasons is that the Latino vote will only be a factor in one Senate contest THIS November: Colorado’s. But women — whether they live in Arkansas, Iowa, Michigan, or Oregon — are going to be the key voting bloc this year, and Democrats see the Hobby Lobby case and contraception in general as wedge issues with female voters. Indeed, back in our March 2014 NBC/WSJ poll, 48% of men said that employers should be able to be exempt from covering birth control on religious grounds, while 46% of them said they should NOT be exempt. By comparison, nearly six-in-10 women — 59% — said employers should NOT be exempt, versus 35% who said they should. Overall in that NBC/WSJ poll, 53% of all respondents said employers should not be exempt, and 41% said they should be exempt.

And if Republicans get into a rhetorical war with Democrats over access to or the morality of various forms of birth control — from common contraceptives to emergency pharmaceuticals — it will play directly into Democratic hands by motivating their formerly dispirited female constituency. Republicans are far better served by arguing against Democratic overreach, for the rule of law, and in favor of religious freedoms once maintained by such arch-conservatives as Bill Clinton.

So far, Republicans have done a good job of failing to provide Democrats with a sound bite or course of action which plays into the War on Women narrative, but the party in power is going to push Republicans to their breaking point. Congressional Republicans would be better served by offering women a positive rather than a negative agenda on birth control which is a medical necessity for many women. Or, failing that, Republicans should hold their tongues on the matter entirely. They will be in a more advantageous position in the 114th Congress if they keep their principles in check… for now.


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Don’t want to be pregnant and don’t want the risk of disease, and don’t want to pay for it yourself?

Keep your legs together, sister.

ConstantineXI on July 8, 2014 at 10:43 AM

Any dem women on this site want to chime in on how you feel about the fact that your party thinks you’re nothing more than a voting vag1na?

CurtZHP on July 8, 2014 at 10:44 AM

Don’t say a word GOP – focus on the border, ObamaCare and jobs

gophergirl on July 8, 2014 at 10:46 AM

Congressional Republicans would be better served by offering women a positive rather than a negative agenda on birth control which is a medical necessity for millions of women.

Bull. Medical necessity for millions?

That’s just the excuse you liberals make to justify the killing of children.

Happy Nomad on July 8, 2014 at 10:48 AM

Any dem women on this site want to chime in on how you feel about the fact that your party thinks you’re nothing more than a voting vag1na?

CurtZHP on July 8, 2014 at 10:44 AM

The modern feminist has been reduced to shouting tantrums at the sky. Sure, abstinence works, but feminists are not to be asked to abstain from being raped (which is what they consider all normal sex to be, consent is not possible because unfairness) because it’s unfair that they are left with the consequences of pregnancy and men are not.

Does that sound illogical? Apparently not to the female brain. At least feminist female brains.

ConstantineXI on July 8, 2014 at 10:49 AM

Red State Dems might have trouble with a War on Religion combined with the War on Wimmins.

Wethal on July 8, 2014 at 10:49 AM

More Democrat Boinking, terrific!!!!

canopfor on July 8, 2014 at 10:50 AM

Don’t say a word GOP – focus on the border, ObamaCare and jobs

gophergirl on July 8, 2014 at 10:46 AM

You know better than that. One of them will be on CNN sticking his foot in his mouth this afternoon. Such is the stupid party.

ConstantineXI on July 8, 2014 at 10:50 AM

Don’t say a word GOP – focus on the border, ObamaCare and jobs

gophergirl on July 8, 2014 at 10:46 AM

And for God’s sake don’t get sucked into a discussion about pregnancies related to rape or incest. Especially if you are white and male.

Happy Nomad on July 8, 2014 at 10:50 AM

The only time in recorded history that abstinence didn’t work was Mother Mary.

ConstantineXI on July 8, 2014 at 10:51 AM

Politicians should not talk about the Supreme Court decisions at all. And if they do it should be couched in “concern” about the Democratic Party not willing to accept “settled law on religious freedom.”

Not taking the bait here is easy – just don’t take it.

Don’t say a word GOP – focus on the border, ObamaCare and jobs

gophergirl on July 8, 2014 at 10:46 AM

Exactly!

rockmom on July 8, 2014 at 10:52 AM

Why should post-menopausal women and all men pay for the birth control of affluent women, subject to no co-pays and no deductibles?

I want a government-issued kitty on the nightstand of every affluent woman of child-bearing age. They can then get the real benefactors to pay if they want to play.

BuckeyeSam on July 8, 2014 at 10:53 AM

Don’t say a word GOP – focus on the border, ObamaCare and jobs

gophergirl on July 8, 2014 at 10:46 AM

Bravo gg! And a big ditto!

Rovin on July 8, 2014 at 10:54 AM

OT: Costco pulls D’Souza’s book

ConservativePartyNow on July 8, 2014 at 10:54 AM

Cory Gardiner’s getting blasted on the airwaves in Denver over it.

libfreeordie on July 8, 2014 at 10:55 AM

And for God’s sake don’t get sucked into a discussion about pregnancies related to rape or incest. Especially if you are white and male.

Happy Nomad on July 8, 2014 at 10:50 AM

There is an easy way to deflect that. I get that one all the time from the budding feminist college interns from Marshall University we have in our accounting department, I always shut it down by saying “That is why rape should get the death penalty”.

I refuse to elaborate more than that or allow them to make it personal.

ConstantineXI on July 8, 2014 at 10:55 AM

Any dem women on this site want to chime in on how you feel about the fact that your party thinks you’re nothing more than a voting vag1na?

CurtZHP on July 8, 2014 at 10:44 AM

It does seem as if Dem women only care about the well-being of their birth canal. Jobs, economic opportunity for their children, national security…….. all don’t matter so long as they don’t have to pay for contraception and/or abortions.

That is the best strategy for the GOP and not this “positive agenda” crap. Some rabid shrill Dem woman starts going on about her genitalia, counter by asking her why that issue is more important than making sure her kids are not killed by terrorists.

Happy Nomad on July 8, 2014 at 10:55 AM

Republicans will be stepping into a trap of Democratic design if they allow themselves to be cast as the party opposed to all forms of family planning.

Why do the Fascist-Democrats insist that others pay for your birth control? Condoms are a buck a pop.

rbj on July 8, 2014 at 10:55 AM

You want people to ‘keep their laws off your body’? How about taking my money out of your va-jay-jay?

M240H on July 8, 2014 at 10:56 AM

And I just don’t see any states where this garbage is going to work this year. Mark Pryor sure as hell is not going to vote to amend RFRA after running TV ads all year talking about how much he loves God and Jesus.

Democrats are overconfident after what happened in Virginia last year, but the fact is that Ken Cuccinelli was the easiest target they’re ever going to get in this phony war over women’s votes, and they barely beat him. They’re not going to beat any of the less-extreme Republicans running for Senate this year with this nonsense.

rockmom on July 8, 2014 at 10:56 AM

OT: Costco pulls D’Souza’s book

ConservativePartyNow on July 8, 2014 at 10:54 AM

Political Censorship is interpreted by the Constitution as damage and is routed around.

ConstantineXI on July 8, 2014 at 10:56 AM

The tack that should be taken:

Barack Obama wants the government and your employer in the business of deciding your health care options…now he is making demands about birth control!!! Tell Barack that this is none of his or the government’s business and to stop support bill # (whatever bill it is)

18-1 on July 8, 2014 at 10:57 AM

What shouldn’t the government or insurance pay for?

albill on July 8, 2014 at 10:57 AM

Don’t say a word GOP – focus on the border, ObamaCare and jobs

gophergirl on July 8, 2014 at 10:46 AM

The border? You mean the law George Bush signed granting minors asylum? Obamacare, which people aren’t really that against anymore or unemployment which is the lowest its been in years. If you have a problem with low wage employment, isn’t the GOP solution to that…to get a better job? What are you going to tell people who have jobs but don’t make very much money? Cut corporate taxes and they will raise your wages? Sure except that’s never happened…ever.

libfreeordie on July 8, 2014 at 10:57 AM

Why do the Fascist-Democrats insist that others pay for your birth control? Condoms are a buck a pop.

rbj on July 8, 2014 at 10:55 AM

And why should you NEED condoms to begin with?

Sex is not supposed to be recreation anyway. We started collapsing as a civilization when it became about that and not about procreation.

ConstantineXI on July 8, 2014 at 10:58 AM

Has one actual female employee of Hobby Lobby complained that she couldn’t get the birth control she wanted?

ctmom on July 8, 2014 at 10:58 AM

Q) You know why Sandra Fluke never ‘shakes her money-maker’?

A) The taxpayer dollars might fall out.

M240H on July 8, 2014 at 10:58 AM

The border? You mean the law George Bush signed granting minors asylum? Obamacare, which people aren’t really that against anymore or unemployment which is the lowest its been in years. If you have a problem with low wage employment, isn’t the GOP solution to that…to get a better job? What are you going to tell people who have jobs but don’t make very much money? Cut corporate taxes and they will raise your wages? Sure except that’s never happened…ever.

libfreeordie on July 8, 2014 at 10:57 AM

By all means keep telling yourself that. Obama’s thugs are being forced to back down by The People even in CALIFORNIA.

Murrieta, CA scorecard:
Patriots 3
Obama Regime 0

ConstantineXI on July 8, 2014 at 10:59 AM

It’s not anyone’s obligation to finance someone else’s hobbies.

There. Nine words. Simple.

Bat Chain Puller on July 8, 2014 at 10:59 AM

birth control which is a medical necessity

Medical necessity. Medical necessity. Like needing insulin if you have Type 1 diabetes necessity? Like needing defibrillation if you are in cardiac arrest necessity? Like needing surgery if you have a subdural hematoma necessity?

Oh, you mean necessity like “I want to get banged every night and not have to worry about the consequences” or “I want to slurp up food like a vacuum cleaner and not have people judge me when I’m floating over next year’s Super Bowl with a Goodyear logo slapped on my rump.”

I’m sorry, Dr. Rothman, but I don’t think the word “necessity” means what you think it does. We’ll all chip in and get you one of those books that lets you look up words that are kind of like other words.

dreadnought62 on July 8, 2014 at 11:00 AM

What are you going to tell people who have jobs but don’t make very much money?

libfreeordie on July 8, 2014 at 10:57 AM

Stop voting Democrat….

Electrongod on July 8, 2014 at 11:02 AM

Congressional Republicans would be better served by offering women a positive rather than a negative agenda on birth control which is a medical necessity for millions of women.

For cripe’s sake.

Have we really reached the point in our society where we feel that the United States Congress needs to put forth a positive agenda on BIRTH CONTROL? Is that what you’re actually saying, Noah?

Give me one legitimate reason why Congress should have anything to say at all about the subject of birth control, positive or negative. I agree Republicans should not get into a debate about the morality of birth control. But I agree because Congress should say NOTHING AT ALL about it.

And, BTW, Noah, not everything should be viewed through a political lens. Sometimes, you do things because they are the right thing to do, even if the political consequences are potentially bad. Birth control might seem like a minor issue, but if so, it’s being framed the wrong way. This is a question of religious liberty, and that is quite a major issue for the future of our nation. Republicans, for once in their careers, need to do what is RIGHT for the country, not what political calculations tell them is the least damaging to do.

In short, once again, I entirely disagree with just about everything you have written. Which seems to always be the case.

Shump on July 8, 2014 at 11:02 AM

Q) You know why Sandra Fluke never ‘shakes her money-maker’?

A) The taxpayer dollars might fall out.

M240H on July 8, 2014 at 10:58 AM

Considering that Sandra Fluke is a thickening, thirtysomething of middling looks (at best, and that only after lots of work and effort is put on) competing for guys on a college campus full of 20 year old women in the absolute prime of physical perfection, I think more money goes into getting guys drunk enough not to notice the difference than into her birth control (which is becoming less important with each passing year, as she’s at the age where her chance of pregnancy falls drastically each year).

ConstantineXI on July 8, 2014 at 11:03 AM

Why should post-menopausal women and all men pay for the birth control of affluent women, subject to no co-pays and no deductibles?

I want a government-issued kitty on the nightstand of every affluent woman of child-bearing age. They can then get the real benefactors to pay if they want to play.

BuckeyeSam on July 8, 2014 at 10:53 AM

It may be hard for men to understand, but many women do feel genuinely aggrieved by having to pay for prescriptions for birth control pills and devices. Of course they **can** remain abstinent to avoid pregnancy, but come on, this is 2014 and a lot of young women have regular boyfriends and married women also want to use birth control. They’ve also been subject to years of relentless propaganda in women’s magazines, TV shows, and the like about how “unfair” this is, about how women pay more for health insurance than men do, etc. etc. It’s really not possible to argue against this “fairness” impression without seeming to be anti-woman.

That battle is largely over and liberals won it. The best thing the Republicans could do is trump it by advocating the deregulation of birth control so women can buy it over the counter, and then try to get the HSA law changed back so that HSAs can pay for OTC drugs.

rockmom on July 8, 2014 at 11:03 AM

By all means keep telling yourself that. Obama’s thugs are being forced to back down by The People even in CALIFORNIA.

Murrieta, CA scorecard:
Patriots 3
Obama Regime 0

ConstantineXI on July 8, 2014 at 10:59 AM

Of course you would take pride in that Klan rally…

libfreeordie on July 8, 2014 at 11:04 AM

And why should you NEED condoms to begin with?

Sex is not supposed to be recreation anyway. We started collapsing as a civilization when it became about that and not about procreation.

ConstantineXI on July 8, 2014 at 10:58 AM

So let’s just go back to the Victorian era, OK?

That’s a real winning platform.

rockmom on July 8, 2014 at 11:06 AM

That’s really nice of the lady on the right to support her friend to that extent.

rogerb on July 8, 2014 at 11:06 AM

As if that creature on the bottom right needs to worry about unauthorized access to her ‘giner.

Jedditelol on July 8, 2014 at 11:07 AM

So far, Republicans have done a good job of failing to provide Democrats with a sound bite or course of action which plays into the War on Women narrative, but the party in power is going to push Republicans to their breaking point. Congressional Republicans would be better served by offering women a positive rather than a negative agenda on birth control which is a medical necessity for millions of women. Or, failing that, Republicans should hold their tongues on the matter entirely. They will be in a more advantageous position in the 114th Congress if they keep their principles in check… for now.

The Republicans should defend the First Amendment.

And, the lives of the unborn.

Why is a Liberal writing for Hot Air?

kingsjester on July 8, 2014 at 11:08 AM

Of course you would take pride in that Klan rally…

libfreeordie on July 8, 2014 at 11:04 AM

No, I’m pretty sure that you would though. The Klan was founded by Democrats, and you very recently had a Democrat Senator Pro Temp who was a high ranking klansman. Everyone knows that the true bigots are those who support breaking up black families by trapping them in welfare slavery to government. And there isn’t a democrat alive today that doesn’t support that.

ConstantineXI on July 8, 2014 at 11:08 AM

Why should women and young men have to pay for old men’s erectile dysfunction pills? Yet there they are, covered under most health plans. The double standard is so boring at this point.

libfreeordie on July 8, 2014 at 11:08 AM

While some hoe is whining about the fact that she’s too irresponsible to keep her legs shut and wants the taxpayers to pay for it…women like me are finding it difficult to find clinics that will both give and read our mammograms.
Sorry Mrs. Twerp-your new insurance doesn’t cover getting the results red.
I hate this administration.

annoyinglittletwerp on July 8, 2014 at 11:09 AM

I’ve officially removed Hot Air from my bookmarks.
.
It’s devolved into something unrecognizable from the site founded by Michelle Malkin years ago.

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on July 8, 2014 at 11:09 AM

So let’s just go back to the Victorian era, OK?

That’s a real winning platform.

rockmom on July 8, 2014 at 11:06 AM

It’s necessary for the survival of civilization. Note who is breeding these days, and who isn’t. Note that we NEED more babies from the people not breeding and less from those who are!

ConstantineXI on July 8, 2014 at 11:10 AM

It still amazes me that they can build a campaign on a lie, on representations that are demonstrably and clearly false.

I guess when MSM’s got your back, you can just say anything.

petefrt on July 8, 2014 at 11:10 AM

Translation: We’re about to get our clocks cleaned because we listened to the Choom Gang, so we have to change the subject immediately.

formwiz on July 8, 2014 at 11:11 AM

Any dem women on this site want to chime in on how you feel about the fact that your party thinks you’re nothing more than a voting vag1na?

CurtZHP on July 8, 2014 at 10:44 AM

Of course the democrats are treating their women voting constituency as nothing more than voting vag1na’s because that is how they are acting. With all that is going on in this country these democrat women can only get themselves rallied over what method they can abort their child? They are disgusting.

KickandSwimMom on July 8, 2014 at 11:11 AM

Why should women and young men have to pay for old men’s erectile dysfunction pills? Yet there they are, covered under most health plans. The double standard is so boring at this point.
 
libfreeordie on July 8, 2014 at 11:08 AM

 
Did erectile dysfunction pills help your sister’s menstrual cramps, professor?

rogerb on July 8, 2014 at 11:12 AM

Btw Noah, this line:’In a piece from last week, I argued that the Republicans will lose the so-called War on Women if they refuse to acknowledge that young, single women’s concerns about the GOP are legitimate.’ is proof that Mediaite was really a good fit for you.

You should go back there-because you’re not a conservative.

annoyinglittletwerp on July 8, 2014 at 11:12 AM

“… Republicans would be better served by …”
“… Republicans should hold their tongues on the matter entirely …”
” … Republicans … blah, blah blah …”

Noah – do you realize how often you write this sort of thing (rhetorical question)? Seriously, you offer “advice” to Republicans in almost every piece that you write. Okay, we get it – you reside on the left, and you think that you know what is best for the right – I know it’s your “thing” but, reading is becoming quite tiresome.

Pork-Chop on July 8, 2014 at 11:12 AM

…many women do feel genuinely aggrieved by having to pay for prescriptions for birth control pills and devices…

rockmom on July 8, 2014 at 11:03 AM

Fine. And where does this end? “Genuinely aggrieved” by having to pay for… groceries? A house? A car?

Living costs money. Face facts.

Bat Chain Puller on July 8, 2014 at 11:13 AM

Pork-Chop on July 8, 2014 at 11:12 AM

No kidding.

kingsjester on July 8, 2014 at 11:14 AM

There are many important things that people are expected to handle on their own. Tooth health is EXTREMELY important when it comes to one’s overall health, but people are still expected to pay for toothbrushes, toothpaste, floss,mouthwash,etc.themselves.

And condoms are every bit as important to men as they are to women yet they are expected to pay for them out of pocket.

DisneyFan on July 8, 2014 at 11:15 AM

Of course you would take pride in that Klan rally…

libfreeordie on July 8, 2014 at 11:04 AM

How’s the pomegranite Tea this morning?

ToddPA on July 8, 2014 at 11:15 AM

Why should women and young men have to pay for old men’s erectile dysfunction pills? Yet there they are, covered under most health plans. The double standard is so boring at this point.

libfreeordie on July 8, 2014 at 11:08 AM

And why should a woman beyond childbearing age have to pay for insurance that covers birth control and childbirth?

Why should a young person have to pay for insurance that covers knee and hip replacements, hormone therapy for menopausal women, and other optional surgeries for old people?

This is the whole problem with the ACA. The government has made all of these decisions “for our own good.”

rockmom on July 8, 2014 at 11:16 AM

What are you going to tell people who have jobs but don’t make very much money?

libfreeordie on July 8, 2014 at 10:57 AM

Stop voting Democrat….

Electrongod on July 8, 2014 at 11:02 AM

Thread winner right here.

gophergirl on July 8, 2014 at 11:16 AM

Dems need to hire the Daughters of Satan.

that’ll win people over..

ToddPA on July 8, 2014 at 11:17 AM

The last time I checked, there were a few Republican women representatives that were making noises about presenting a counterpoint to the “diversified” hive mind on the other side of the aisle.

Step in, ladies.

Recon5 on July 8, 2014 at 11:17 AM

It may be hard for men to understand, but many women do feel genuinely aggrieved by having to pay for prescriptions for birth control pills and devices. Of course they **can** remain abstinent to avoid pregnancy, but come on, this is 2014 and a lot of young women have regular boyfriends and married women also want to use birth control. They’ve also been subject to years of relentless propaganda in women’s magazines, TV shows, and the like about how “unfair” this is, about how women pay more for health insurance than men do, etc. etc. It’s really not possible to argue against this “fairness” impression without seeming to be anti-woman.

That battle is largely over and liberals won it. The best thing the Republicans could do is trump it by advocating the deregulation of birth control so women can buy it over the counter, and then try to get the HSA law changed back so that HSAs can pay for OTC drugs.

rockmom on July 8, 2014 at 11:03 AM

The issue with Hobby Lobby isn’t about whether women have to pay for their own birth control or not. It is about Hobby Lobby objecting to paying for 4 PARTICULAR methods. They already pay for something like 16 other methods. It is not UNFAIR to expect women to use a birth control method that PREVENTS pregnancy rather than one that ABORTS a pregnancy. If they can’t seem to manage that responsibility, then they’ll have to just pay for their abortion themselves.

KickandSwimMom on July 8, 2014 at 11:17 AM

ToddPA on July 8, 2014 at 11:17 AM

ValJar, Pelosi, and Hillary already work for them.

kingsjester on July 8, 2014 at 11:18 AM

Fine. And where does this end? “Genuinely aggrieved” by having to pay for… groceries? A house? A car?

Living costs money. Face facts.

Bat Chain Puller on July 8, 2014 at 11:13 AM

Exactly. Being sexually active is a choice, and with that choice comes certain expenses. Society doesn’t owe that to you.

I don’t think that taxpayers should have to fund birth control for the same reason why I don’t think we should be responsible for treating the consequences of Sodomy, namely AIDS.

An individual choice should come with individual responsibility.

ConstantineXI on July 8, 2014 at 11:18 AM

Leave it to the troll to go to bat for more government control of private matters.

CurtZHP on July 8, 2014 at 11:18 AM

Why should women and young men have to pay for old men’s erectile dysfunction pills? Yet there they are, covered under most health plans. The double standard is so boring at this point.
 
libfreeordie on July 8, 2014 at 11:08 AM

 
And HIV/AIDS meds, right professor?

rogerb on July 8, 2014 at 11:19 AM

Noah – do you realize how often you write this sort of thing (rhetorical question)? Seriously, you offer “advice” to Republicans in almost every piece that you write. Okay, we get it – you reside on the left, and you think that you know what is best for the right – I know it’s your “thing” but, reading is becoming quite tiresome.

Pork-Chop on July 8, 2014 at 11:12 AM

He’s a young person who understands how young people think and the messages that work with them. This is why Ed hired him. I find myself challenged sometimes by his opinions, sometimes disagreeing, but I think he puts a lot of thought and effort into his posts here.

rockmom on July 8, 2014 at 11:20 AM

Why did you just toss me away, mommy? Why didn’t you want me? I was a part of you and yet you didn’t think that I was anything of value. But, I am of value. I am not a disease. I am a human being.

Why, mommy, why? I could have been a person who had a worth to society if you just gave me a chance. I would have given you hugs and kisses when you felt unhappy or for no reason at all.

If you didn’t want me, mommy, why did you have unprotected sex with my daddy? Was he a kind and gentle man that you loved deeply or was he someone you hardly knew?

Why didn’t you let me live so that I could at least have a chance to be adopted by someone?

Why didn’t you give me a chance at life, mommy?

Cherokee on July 8, 2014 at 11:20 AM

Of course you would take pride in that Klan rally…

libfreeordie on July 8, 2014 at 11:04 AM

Of course you denigrate people trying to protect their families, their homes, their community, all that they’ve built as klansmen. Hang in there, I’m sure you can call someone a Nazi before the thread peters out.

M240H on July 8, 2014 at 11:21 AM

And why should a woman beyond childbearing age have to pay for insurance that covers birth control and childbirth?

Why should a young person have to pay for insurance that covers knee and hip replacements, hormone therapy for menopausal women, and other optional surgeries for old people?

This is the whole problem with the ACA. The government has made all of these decisions “for our own good.”

rockmom on July 8, 2014 at 11:16 AM

Even worse, as a 42 year old single male I am being forced to have MATERNITY coverage on my insurance. I couldn’t get pregnant even if I WANTED to, and even if I were female (which I am not, not even a tranny like Mooch) I am at the age where pregnancy would need fertility treatment anyway…

ConstantineXI on July 8, 2014 at 11:22 AM

rockmom on July 8, 2014 at 11:20 AM

‘Young people’?
BS
My son’s twenty-and a onservative
Young skanky leftists think like this.
Who the eff cares what they think.

annoyinglittletwerp on July 8, 2014 at 11:23 AM

The only explanation I can come up with for Noah Rothman being on Hot Air is some “pointy haired boss” at Salem Communications thought having Republican-baiting articles would bring in more trolls and drive up page hits.

And Noah’s delusional enough to believe this is going to be the new Salon.com

PolAgnostic on July 8, 2014 at 11:24 AM

This whole thing is ridiculous. SCOTUS never said that female employees of Hobby Lobby couldn’t get birth control. They only said that their employer didn’t have to pay for it.

This is the Democrats’ new Trojan Horse to get more Democrats elected. To combat this, men need to wear more Trojans to bed.

Steve Z on July 8, 2014 at 11:25 AM

Why should women and young men have to pay for old men’s erectile dysfunction pills? Yet there they are, covered under most health plans. The double standard is so boring at this point.

libfreeordie on July 8, 2014 at 11:08 AM

Funny, I don’t recall any rallys, full of old men, clamoring for free viagra. There is no double standard when the reality is none of us advocated for Obamacare. There is a double standard on the Left, though, when they tell people to “get out of my bedroom” regarding homosexuality and abortion, but then demanding we get right back in there to finance the consequences.

Jacka**.

M240H on July 8, 2014 at 11:26 AM

ConstantineXI on July 8, 2014 at 11:22 AM

I’m an almost 44 year old woman married to an almost 55 year old. My son’s an adult.
We don’t need maternity or pediatric ANYTHING.
I NEED to get my mammos covered in full.

THAT we don’t get…but if my tubal somehow failed and I wanted an abortion…

annoyinglittletwerp on July 8, 2014 at 11:26 AM

OT: Palin calls for articles of impeachment

ConservativePartyNow on July 8, 2014 at 11:26 AM

He’s a young person who understands how young people think and the messages that work with them. This is why Ed hired him. I find myself challenged sometimes by his opinions, sometimes disagreeing, but I think he puts a lot of thought and effort into his posts here.

rockmom on July 8, 2014 at 11:20 AM

He is pro-choice, pro-”immigration reform”, uses the Left’s PC terms on many topics, and the list goes on. He is not very right wing.

DisneyFan on July 8, 2014 at 11:28 AM

ConservativePartyNow on July 8, 2014 at 11:26 AM

HERE HERE!!!

annoyinglittletwerp on July 8, 2014 at 11:28 AM

Noah, I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt that you mean well, but you really aren’t helping women by approaching the issue in this manner. All you’re doing is feeding into the narrative of women as victims who can’t survive without being overly-dependent on government.

Not sure why some Repubs can’t get it through their heads that they have a better chance of winning women over if they appeal to them as intelligent human beings rather than reducing them to a political identity associated with their body parts.

lineholder on July 8, 2014 at 11:28 AM

No, I’m pretty sure that you would though. The Klan was founded by Democrats, and you very recently had a Democrat Senator Pro Temp who was a high ranking klansman.

The nation was founded by men who owned other humans as chattel. Yet you manage to admire nearly all of them. No doubt you’re about to say, “but wait, slave ownership was mainstream during the Revolutionary Era, and Democrats formed the Klan after their loss in the Civil War, making their hatred of black people far worse than those who once held them as chattel.”

First of all, I’m not sure how American it is to suggest that a consensus necessarily means that people are in the right, whether in the present or in the past. There were people who spoke out against slavery long before the nation became prepared to end it. And we are also talking about an era where the political consensus was derived from a very small elite. Now, here is a major irony of conservative thinking. The rallying cry the right most often lobs at the federal government is that it protects the narrow interests of an elite over the political desires of the masses. And yet, the nation’s founding occurred in a far more elitist society than this did. The founders critiqued the monarchs, but the very idea of cross-class within the race upset their stomachs significantly. Even a conservative reading of the nation’s history suggests a gradual unfolding of democracy; beginning with land requirements for voting to universal male suffrage to the black vote, the women’s vote etc.

But given all of that, relying upon the opinions of white landed men to evaluate the “mainstream” support for slavery in an era when only the opinions of white landed men mattered for anything, isn’t doing the best history.

No matter how you slice it. The men who founded the nation committed many severe acts of inhumanity against their fellow humans because the law made it possible for them to do so. Laws they wrote. The Klan was a terrorist group, and their opponent was both black people and the law. But the founders committed an evil and then used the law to make it not an evil. I find that far more sinister. And I think self-reflexive conservatives should as well.

Everyone knows that the true bigots are those who support breaking up black families by trapping them in welfare slavery to government.

I hear this argument alot. “Welfare slavery.” It’s repeated constantly. Or “on the Democratic plantation.” These constant allusions to black people’s ongoing slavery. Again, this is where I just have to wonder if conservatives can recognize black people’s collective humanity.

Given what we know, what is documented in *thousands* of pages of records about life for black people under slavery, how could anyone suggest that African Americans are currently slaves. It’s rude. And no different than Holocaust denial.
And there isn’t a democrat alive today that doesn’t support that.

ConstantineXI on July 8, 2014 at 11:08 AM

libfreeordie on July 8, 2014 at 11:29 AM

DisneyFan on July 8, 2014 at 11:28 AM

Read a bunch of post up what I wrote.

annoyinglittletwerp on July 8, 2014 at 11:29 AM

The issue with Hobby Lobby isn’t about whether women have to pay for their own birth control or not. It is about Hobby Lobby objecting to paying for 4 PARTICULAR methods. They already pay for something like 16 other methods. It is not UNFAIR to expect women to use a birth control method that PREVENTS pregnancy rather than one that ABORTS a pregnancy. If they can’t seem to manage that responsibility, then they’ll have to just pay for their abortion themselves.

KickandSwimMom on July 8, 2014 at 11:17 AM

I know that, of course, but even Ruth Bader Ginsburg failed to understand this, and guess which opinion is being read and talked about the most by young women? The message they are getting is “your boss gets to decide what kind of birth control you get.” That is guaranteed to enrage younger women.

And it isn’t the only issue with the decision to a lot of people. Lots of folks are upset by the Court finding that a corporation has religious freedom rights. If Hobby Lobby were a sole proprietorship, a lot of liberals would have granted that RFRA covered the owner and the Court might not have even split 5-4 on the decision.

rockmom on July 8, 2014 at 11:29 AM

Dear Republicans:

The only thing you need to say when questioned about the Hobby Lobby case and/or contriception is…

“Unlike the liberals out there, I don’t think women are too stupid to figure out how to buy their own birth control”.

DethMetalCookieMonst on July 8, 2014 at 11:30 AM

Why should women and young men have to pay for old men’s? Yet there they are, covered under most health plans. The double standard is so boring at this point.

libfreeordie on July 8, 2014 at 11:08 AM

I agree. Remove the erectile dysfunction pills from the plans too.

wifarmboy on July 8, 2014 at 11:30 AM

He’s a young person who understands how young people think and the messages that work with them. This is why Ed hired him. I find myself challenged sometimes by his opinions, sometimes disagreeing, but I think he puts a lot of thought and effort into his posts here.

rockmom on July 8, 2014 at 11:20 AM

Did Ed tell you this?

Judging from what Rothman has posted at Hot Air thus far, he is quite liberal – Not all “young people” are liberals, and certainly, most readers at Hot Air are not liberals. Rothman is out of touch with most Hot Air readers, and has no clue what conservatives think – and has only a very shallow understanding of what Republicans, in general, think – but he is quick to TELL us what WE should think.

Pork-Chop on July 8, 2014 at 11:30 AM

The border? You mean the law George Bush signed granting minors asylum? Obamacare, which people aren’t really that against anymore or unemployment which is the lowest its been in years. If you have a problem with low wage employment, isn’t the GOP solution to that…to get a better job? What are you going to tell people who have jobs but don’t make very much money? Cut corporate taxes and they will raise your wages? Sure except that’s never happened…ever.

libfreeordie on July 8, 2014 at 10:57 AM

You are so consistently misinformed that I’ve got to believe it’s on purpose at this point.

gwelf on July 8, 2014 at 11:31 AM

Is it February already?

rogerb on July 8, 2014 at 11:31 AM

Why should women and young men have to pay for old men’s erectile dysfunction pills? Yet there they are, covered under most health plans. The double standard is so boring at this point.

libfreeordie on July 8, 2014 at 11:08 AM

No, what’s boring are your typical strawman arguments and your grasping at some asinine point when you have most of the facts wrong.

gwelf on July 8, 2014 at 11:32 AM

If Liberals, on both sides of the aisle, (because you cannot claim Conservatism, if you want to kill babies) would only perform a self-assessment, and come to the realization that the life inside a human mother’s womb, is in fact, a HUMAN BEING, and not “a bunch of cells,”, “a parasitic life form”, or “an inconvenience”, then abortion would go the way of the rotary telephone.

Unfortunately, though, when you have a president whose first act, upon obtaining the office, was to authorize American Taxpayers’ money be sent to abortion clinics around the world, and who said,

Look, I got two daughters — 9 years old and 6 years old. I am going to teach them first about values and morals, but if they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby. I don’t want them punished with an STD at age 16, so it doesn’t make sense to not give them information,

that probably is not going to happen anytime soon.

Our American Freedom, which we now enjoy, was given to us by the Grace of God and by acts of courage by selfless men.

Our nation has never been a selfish one. Our people have never been self-centered.

And, those who believe that selfishness and irresponsibility are what America is all about, haven’t got a clue.

kingsjester on July 8, 2014 at 11:32 AM

It’s hard to win a bidding war with liberals.

If you agree to “X” and they want “X + 1″ then they will claim that you want to cut the program and want women to die.

We know how it goes.

SteveMG on July 8, 2014 at 11:33 AM

Scratch that. There are two things that replubicans need to say, and only two things, when questioned about Hobby Lobby/birth control:

“Unloke the liberals out there, I don’t think women are too stupid to figure out how to buy their own birth control”

and

“Give me an example of even one woman who works for or has ever worked for Hobby Lobby that was prevented (by Hobby Lobby) from getting any kind of birth control”.

DethMetalCookieMonst on July 8, 2014 at 11:33 AM

Bull. Medical necessity for millions?

That’s just the excuse you liberals make to justify the killing of children.

Happy Nomad on July 8, 2014 at 10:48 AM

Be careful not to step in a trap Happy. Birth Control is often taken to deal with Dysmenorrhea a very common affliction.

“Dysmenorrhea (dysmenorrhoea or painful periods) is a medical condition of pain during menstruation that interferes with daily activities, as defined by ACOG[1] and others”

No doubt the Hobby Lobby, which approved 16 forms of contraceptives, would treat this problem as a medical issue rather than a birth control measure. I suspect even the Catholic Church would approve such a use for contraception as a medical treatment among celibate women. OTOH if you deny that it is a medical problem that calls for treatment, just watch the progressive left gleefully jump all over you.

KW64 on July 8, 2014 at 11:34 AM

libfreeordie on July 8, 2014 at 10:57 AM

Hey, I have an idea, libfreewhatever….why don’t YOU tell Planned Parenthood to stop charging Medicaid three times the market value for BC. That would leave more funds available so that a greater number of women could have access to a broader scope of healthcare in general, including reproductive care.

lineholder on July 8, 2014 at 11:35 AM

Even worse, as a 42 year old single male I am being forced to have MATERNITY coverage on my insurance. I couldn’t get pregnant even if I WANTED to, and even if I were female (which I am not, not even a tranny like Mooch) I am at the age where pregnancy would need fertility treatment anyway…

ConstantineXI on July 8, 2014 at 11:22 AM

Right, that is a result of the whole nonsense about women paying more for health insurance than men. That was because childbirth is expensive! So now men must pay much more for insurance than is actuarially justified, so women can pay less. Because Fairness!

You are also paying for insurance to cover procedures like hip and knee replacements, angioplasty, ED meds, hormone replacement for menopausal women, breast and ovarian cancer treatment, etc. which as a 42-year-old man you have zero chance of needing.

Just one of the many ridiculous things about this law, which is why it never should have been enacted.

rockmom on July 8, 2014 at 11:35 AM

Btw Noah, this line:’In a piece from last week, I argued that the Republicans will lose the so-called War on Women if they refuse to acknowledge that young, single women’s concerns about the GOP are legitimate.’ is proof that Mediaite was really a good fit for you.

You should go back there-because you’re not a conservative.

annoyinglittletwerp on July 8, 2014 at 11:12 AM

What is the problem with Noah’s credentials? The fact that he was one of the very, very few conservative writers at Mediaite – whom I made a point out of reading, btw – surrounded by an intellectual swamp of attention deficit ingrates, or your problem with what someone gets coverage for through their own insurance? My interest in this begins and ends with religious rights violations – beyond that, I couldn’t care less.

Exemptions were made for non-profits and individuals when their cancelled plans were grandfathered back in. Another way was provided for bc/abortificient coverage. Regardless of personal convictions, Plan B and IUD’s aren’t controversial – the GOP could easily do exactly as Noah is suggesting, eviscerate the Dems single pathetic foothold on this race and raise legitimate questions re: their focus to undermine religious rights and create a wall of white noise versus actually resolving the issue – as usual. Which opens up a long conversation we should all have about the Dems record of exacerbating any given issue instead of addressing it effectively.

Recon5 on July 8, 2014 at 11:35 AM

Why can’t the feminist skanks get their boyfriend(s) pay for the morning after abortifacts rather than making their neighbors(tax payers). After all, they were closer to the action.

BigAlSouth on July 8, 2014 at 11:36 AM

Why should women and young men have to pay for old men’s? Yet there they are, covered under most health plans. The double standard is so boring at this point.

libfreeordie on July 8, 2014 at 11:08 AM

I agree. Remove the erectile dysfunction pills from the plans too.

wifarmboy on July 8, 2014 at 11:30 AM

Viagra coverage is very selective. Most insurance companies don’t.

itsspideyman on July 8, 2014 at 11:36 AM

rockmom on July 8, 2014 at 11:29 AM

As a JEWISH woman who would love to leave Wally for Hobby Lobby-it’s an awesome store-I’m THRILLED with this decision.
I always thought you a conservative.
I’m reconsidering.

annoyinglittletwerp on July 8, 2014 at 11:36 AM

Recon5 on July 8, 2014 at 11:35 AM
In Texas we have a different definition of conservative.
Noah’s at best a moderate.

annoyinglittletwerp on July 8, 2014 at 11:38 AM

Don’t want to be pregnant and don’t want the risk of disease, and don’t want to pay for it yourself?

Keep your legs together, sister.

ConstantineXI on July 8, 2014 at 10:43 AM

More Social Conservatism folks. No equal rights and responsibilities here; just outright misogyny and laying it all on the woman. Men don’t have to do anything; it’ll be the woman “who keeps her legs closed”. The ads just keep writing themselves….

No remind me again….Who is it that’s being the stereotype here?

tphillip on July 8, 2014 at 11:38 AM

good lord you are a coward.

dmacleo on July 8, 2014 at 11:39 AM

I know that, of course, but even Ruth Bader Ginsburg failed to understand this, and guess which opinion is being read and talked about the most by young women? The message they are getting is “your boss gets to decide what kind of birth control you get.” That is guaranteed to enrage younger women.

And it isn’t the only issue with the decision to a lot of people. Lots of folks are upset by the Court finding that a corporation has religious freedom rights. If Hobby Lobby were a sole proprietorship, a lot of liberals would have granted that RFRA covered the owner and the Court might not have even split 5-4 on the decision.

rockmom on July 8, 2014 at 11:29 AM

RBG understood just fine. Her comments were intentionally designed to get women riled up- Not the first time she’s used a dissent to push for a feminist activist response to a decision.

As for No. 2., those people are ignorant of the fact that corporations have had rights almost since the beginning of this country’s history. Hobby Lobby is a reasonable application of the law in response to an unprecedented mandate.

DisneyFan on July 8, 2014 at 11:39 AM

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